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AA Boeing 757 and 767 retriement schedule

Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:33 am

In September the MD-80s will all be retired.Which aircraft will be next to leave the American Airlines fleet.The Boeing 757 and 767-323ERs have been slowly leaving the fleet
for several years as newer aircraft are being delivered.When is the 757 and 767s scheduled to be completely retired?
 
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Re: AA Boeing 757 and 767 retriement schedule

Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:27 am

AA will have 6 763s in 2020 and they'll be gone by 2021.

10 757s, which I'm pretty sure are LUS doing Hawaii rounds, are scheduled to be gone by the end of this year. They'll be replaced by the A321neo.

LAAs 757s don't have a scheduled retirement date, but I'd bet they'll start retiring in 2023 when the XLRs arrive.
 
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Re: AA Boeing 757 and 767 retriement schedule

Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:56 am

After the MD-80, the next aircraft that will leave the fleet is the Embraer 190, next year I believe. Then it will be the last 767s that will leave the fleet and as mentioned before they will all be gone by then end of 2021. As for the 757s, the LUS birds currently doing PHX-Hawaii runs are scheduled to leave the fleet this year like Ishrion says, but the 24 remaining LAA 757s still have some time left. The retirement of those normally will start in 2023 as the NeoXLRs start to arrive, and the last 757 will be gone in 2025, 2026 at the latest. And by then the last A320 should also be gone, leaving only A319s and A321s, as far as Airbus narrowbodies are concerned.

So this is what the fleet should look like in 2026/2027
Mainline:
A319/A321 (OEO, NEO and NEOLR)
A330-200 (not sure the -300s will still be in the fleet by then)
B738 (NG gradually on the way out, not so sure what will happen with the MAX)
B777-200/300ER (the 200s will gradually be on the way out by then)
B787-8/9
Eagle:
CR9 and E170/175
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Re: AA Boeing 757 and 767 retriement schedule

Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:57 am

We are entering boring aviation times lads. The days of aircraft diversity are gone.
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Re: AA Boeing 757 and 767 retriement schedule

Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:04 am

AA has several 767s that are younger than their 772 fleet. Never understood why the 767 fleet had such lousy dispatch reliability.
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Re: AA Boeing 757 and 767 retriement schedule

Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:26 am

American 767 wrote:
After the MD-80, the next aircraft that will leave the fleet is the Embraer 190, next year I believe. Then it will be the last 767s that will leave the fleet and as mentioned before they will all be gone by then end of 2021. As for the 757s, the LUS birds currently doing PHX-Hawaii runs are scheduled to leave the fleet this year like Ishrion says, but the 24 remaining LAA 757s still have some time left. The retirement of those normally will start in 2023 as the NeoXLRs start to arrive, and the last 757 will be gone in 2025, 2026 at the latest. And by then the last A320 should also be gone, leaving only A319s and A321s, as far as Airbus narrowbodies are concerned.

So this is what the fleet should look like in 2026/2027
Mainline:
A319/A321 (OEO, NEO and NEOLR)
A330-200 (not sure the -300s will still be in the fleet by then)
B738 (NG gradually on the way out, not so sure what will happen with the MAX)
B777-200/300ER (the 200s will gradually be on the way out by then)
B787-8/9
Eagle:
CR9 and E170/175


Six of the Embraer-190s were on the Jan 2019 schedule, to be retired by YE.
 
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Re: AA Boeing 757 and 767 retriement schedule

Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:41 am

Here you go. A detailed fleet plan.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/american- ... uary-2019/
 
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Re: AA Boeing 757 and 767 retriement schedule

Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:52 am

I like the 190... and Ill miss some of the 767 for sure. Some of the J seats the swivel to a deck are some of my favorite J seats for Daytime flights
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Re: AA Boeing 757 and 767 retriement schedule

Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:41 am

Super80Fan wrote:
We are entering boring aviation times lads. The days of aircraft diversity are gone.


This lack of aircraft diversity can be attributed to the mergers in the past decade that formed the US3 today. It's simply cheaper to operate a large fleet of the same aircraft and consolidate fleets.
 
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Re: AA Boeing 757 and 767 retriement schedule

Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:38 am

Antarius wrote:
AA has several 767s that are younger than their 772 fleet. Never understood why the 767 fleet had such lousy dispatch reliability.


Most of the full American Airlines 767-300ER fleet was built and delivered between 1988 and the early 1990s. The 777 deliveries began in 1996-97. 9 767-300ERs were built and delivered in 2002-2003 to replace 9 TWA frames (also 767-300ERs) that were on very high lease rates due to TWA's financial condition leading up to the AA acquisition in 2001. It was cheaper for AA to buy new aircraft than renegotiate leases on the existing ones.

American under invested in the 767 fleet for years. The back of the plane was never retrofitted to the 777 style cabin style, similar to what DL and UA have done with theirs. The first generation of a new business class product, introduced in 2006 at AA featured angled seats done very cheaply, with the business class cabin only getting the 777 style bins and ceiling architecture. The 9 new builds from 2002-2003 came with the 777 style interior directly nose to tail. The entire fleet of 763s was the mainstay of deep South America, TATL, and some Hawaii routes for much of the 1990s and 2000s. American simply did not want to invest $ in the necessary upgrades to keep them flying longer. They don't have a good track record of dispatch reliability. At JFK, they are all gone finally with CDG and MAD being the last 2 routes to see them until March 2019.
 
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Re: AA Boeing 757 and 767 retriement schedule

Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:23 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
The days of aircraft diversity are gone.
That's more or less true for those whose ability to detect diversity ends with counting the number of engines and noting where they are placed on the aircraft.

I guess those who really need to see T-tails will have to go find where the CRJs and bizjets are.
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Re: AA Boeing 757 and 767 retriement schedule

Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:49 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
We are entering boring aviation times lads. The days of aircraft diversity are gone.


It's all about $$$. Are you complaining about a situation where all major U.S. carriers are profitable and able to invest in fleets while raising wages?
 
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Re: AA Boeing 757 and 767 retriement schedule

Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:54 pm

Cointrin330 wrote:
At JFK, they are all gone finally with CDG and MAD being the last 2 routes to see them until March 2019.


JFK-MIA still sees the 763, 1x daily in each direction. But yes you're right, as far as the International scene is concerned, the 763s are gone. All TATL fights out of JFK on AA metal are now 777s. At this point the two remaining bases for the 767, and the 757, are PHL and MIA.
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