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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:00 am

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I wonder how LA’s schedule would look if they weren’t having issues with their 787 fleet. I think their fleet is stretched quite thin - hence MEL and AKL now reduced.


LA's schedule would look the same as all of their 787s are now flying.

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By the time this service starts LA will have taken delivery of another 2 789's, both of which are due around the same time as QF's first 2 789's

Thanks all for clarifying! So it seems the MEL downgrade is permanent then.
 
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:32 am

QF7 cancelled today, anybody know why? A whole A380 load of people at SYD T1 QF trying to get rebooked onto next available flights.
 
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:38 am

Major components of the new Perth Airport SkyBridge were lifted into place on Tuesday, and by the end of July they plan on having all the major components in place.
 
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:45 am

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QF7 cancelled today, anybody know why? A whole A380 load of people at SYD T1 QF trying to get rebooked onto next available flights.

Glancing through QF's A380 fleet on FR24 I would hazard to guess either OQF or OQI went tech in SYD and caused the cancellation. My 1c is on OQF since it arrived yesterday and haven't moved since. Correct me if I'm wrong though

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:05 am

So what is the SYD/MEL-SCL schedule now?

SYD-SCL (dir) - QF 4pw, LA 3pw
SYD-AKL-SCL - LA 4pw
MEL-SCL (dir) - LA 3pw

Am I missing anything?

(NB this is same plane service, connections to/from AKL are excluded)
 
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:40 am

Alaska Airlines plans to codeshare on QF Nee Zealand services from 1 September, pending approval

https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 95650?s=21
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:09 am

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So what is the SYD/MEL-SCL schedule now?

SYD-SCL (dir) - QF 4pw, LA 3pw
SYD-AKL-SCL - LA 4pw
MEL-SCL (dir) - LA 3pw

Am I missing anything?

(NB this is same plane service, connections to/from AKL are excluded)


Just looking QF are up to 6 per week for several weeks in DEC-JAN peak. They have not been more than 5 in the past AFAIK. They drop back to 4-5 weekly outside of that and usually 4 weekly through NS.
 
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:52 am

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BITRE out for April

Virgin numbers improved across the board, New Zealand improved somewhat with a 80.5% LF inbound and 72.8% outbound
Qatar carried more passengers in/out of PER than EK for the first time, outbound LF just under 98% for the month vs EK 96%
Batik Indonesia slowly improving coming in at just over 50%

https://www.bitre.gov.au/publications/o ... y_1904.pdf


Thanks for posting. Nice to see VA building back market share across the ditch.

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No it's not, price/demand isn't a straight line as demand is quite elastic in aviation. You are maximizing revenues by maximizing volumes and prices.


Sorry but you're wrong. Pretty much every airline in the world runs on a similar yield management model, and having an average load factor of 98% is pretty much a fail whichever way you dice it. If they can fill the aircraft at the same average yield as they would get at 80% then they are on to a winner, but that is highly unlikely in which case QR have prioritised capacity ahead of revenue management.


It's not just about yield, it's all about the right balance between volume and yield to maximize revenues. Both parameters have an upper bound, a customer won't pay $20k for a PER-DOH return in economy and you can't add more seats to an A380. Add the high elasticity of aviation in general and airlines are better off filling 98% of their plane at a lower yield than 80% at a higher yield.


Airlines try to maximise revenue, driving volume can be a perfectly acceptable way depending on the market. The bulk of Qatar's market goes to Europe, which is a VFR and tourism market. I've personally signed override and other deals with TMC for business travellers, but also inclusive tour companies and net fares aiming for VFR and tourists. All have got a place, especially if you are building market share (e.g. with Etihad leaving Perth), or you have connecting routes that are building market share.
 
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:14 am

VA just got a little slice of good news for it’s long haul, the ACCC just granted interim authorisation for VA and VS to cooperate on scheduling and services on HKG and LAX flights.
Draft determination expected in September, still not sure who’d go to LHR via LAX but anyways.

I’m sure they’d consider it a double win if the tie up for CX and QF on HKG flights doesn’t get up.
 
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:57 am

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VA just got a little slice of good news for it’s long haul, the ACCC just granted interim authorisation for VA and VS to cooperate on scheduling and services on HKG and LAX flights.
Draft determination expected in September, still not sure who’d go to LHR via LAX but anyways.

I’m sure they’d consider it a double win if the tie up for CX and QF on HKG flights doesn’t get up.


VS having been offering an AP fare via LAX for quite a while that can be combined with an EH fare via HKG to create a very cost effective around the world option. The routing is SYD/MEL-HKG-LHR-NYC/LAX-SYD/MEL (or v.v.) so it's quite restrictive but I've seen it quote as low as ~$1300. The partnership could theoretically allow the two carriers to co-operate jointly on developing and marketing such fares and options (although if they are offering it at that sort of price it almost certainly isn't worth it!)

On a personal note, back in 2014 I flew United SYD-SFO-IAD-LHR. Not a logical routing to London but I was visiting Europe and the USA (but not Asia) and doing what amounted to a return to Europe with a stopover on the way back worked out significantly cheaper than any RTW option. What made a long journey longer was that the SFO-IAD flight was delayed and I missed the connection to LHR so had an impromptu stopover in Washington. That said, I would do it again if the price was right.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:03 am

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Jetstar to cancel SYD-CHC services from mid October

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/113 ... ey-service


I guess QF got AKL in the divorce and EK got CHC.
 
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:09 am

There's nothing earth shattering about the VA/VS tie up except other than it will annoy SQ and EY. Whatever cooperation they can do together is going to be extremely limited which is why there wasn't any opposition. Based on current schedules, only a LHR-HKG-SYD/MEL routing may be of benefit, everything else you'll be looking at significant transit times.

I do not think QF/CX agreement will be approved based on precedence. However, QF does have authority to codeshare on CX services.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:50 am

Anyone know anything about why all of the EVA flights to BNE have been cancelled this week?
 
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:59 am

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Anyone know anything about why all of the EVA flights to BNE have been cancelled this week?



I believe its due to FA striking.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:06 am

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There's nothing earth shattering about the VA/VS tie up except other than it will annoy SQ and EY. Whatever cooperation they can do together is going to be extremely limited which is why there wasn't any opposition.


SQ and EY are hands-off for a long time now and clearly doesn't care as much. Even if EY was annoyed, there's not much they can do as they are financially crippled themselves.
SQ have already publicly stated they weren't happy with their VA stake during Q3 2018 when they directly blamed VA for a profit downturn.

The VS/VA tie-up most likely would've been done under direct instruction from their 'masters' DL as owners of VS. The Air France/KLM stake in VS is really a proxy for DL. Whatever DL says to VS, VS follows.

I would not be surprised if DL once figures in the frame for VA should EY/HNA or SQ sells out of VA.

danair380 wrote:
Anyone know anything about why all of the EVA flights to BNE have been cancelled this week?


Ongoing FA strike action. The majority of BR's network is affected by the flight cancellations.
 
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:21 am

Eva Air has canned services to BNE until 20 July at the earliest

https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 77888?s=21
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:28 am

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There's nothing earth shattering about the VA/VS tie up except other than it will annoy SQ and EY. Whatever cooperation they can do together is going to be extremely limited which is why there wasn't any opposition.


SQ and EY are hands-off for a long time now and clearly doesn't care as much. Even if EY was annoyed, there's not much they can do as they are financially crippled themselves.
SQ have already publicly stated they weren't happy with their VA stake during Q3 2018 when they directly blamed VA for a profit downturn.

The VS/VA tie-up most likely would've been done under direct instruction from their 'masters' DL as owners of VS. The Air France/KLM stake in VS is really a proxy for DL. Whatever DL says to VS, VS follows.

I would not be surprised if DL once figures in the frame for VA should EY/HNA or SQ sells out of VA.

danair380 wrote:
Anyone know anything about why all of the EVA flights to BNE have been cancelled this week?


Ongoing FA strike action. The majority of BR's network is affected by the flight cancellations.


Both SQ and EY have agreements with VA between Australia and the UK.

I doubt DL would have done anything. There’s roughly 5 flights in scope here. It would have come from SRB to give the brands a bit of a boost.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:33 am

getluv wrote:

Both SQ and EY have agreements with VA between Australia and the UK.


Which has been de-emphasised by both carriers for a long while now. In SQ's case if they cared they would've promoted the partnership thoroughly. EY on the other hand doesn't have the money to counter internal rival SQ and VS.

SQ agreement up for renewal at the end of Q3 2021 and EY's at the end of 2020 respectively. I would tip an exit from EY at least.
 
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:56 pm

SCFlyer wrote:
getluv wrote:

Both SQ and EY have agreements with VA between Australia and the UK.


Which has been de-emphasised by both carriers for a long while now. In SQ's case if they cared they would've promoted the partnership thoroughly. EY on the other hand doesn't have the money to counter internal rival SQ and VS.

SQ agreement up for renewal at the end of Q3 2021 and EY's at the end of 2020 respectively. I would tip an exit from EY at least.


If EY was to not renew with VA they can kiss a chunk of premium traffic goodbye unless they’re going to heavily discount it.

The number of ex Australia business seats being sold because of VA memberships would be significant, all of those pax would walk straight to SQ if it’s a like for like destination, or use another carrier.
 
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:24 pm

There will be significant delays today on VA's domestic A332's after XFJ went tech on Thursday afternoon, as a result VA564 got delayed overnight. A332 services today for BNE VA469/474 will see about a 10 hour delay, this will also run into the BNE A332 service on Saturday which atm will be delayed by about 2 and a half hours
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:52 pm

getluv wrote:
SCFlyer wrote:
getluv wrote:
There's nothing earth shattering about the VA/VS tie up except other than it will annoy SQ and EY. Whatever cooperation they can do together is going to be extremely limited which is why there wasn't any opposition.


SQ and EY are hands-off for a long time now and clearly doesn't care as much. Even if EY was annoyed, there's not much they can do as they are financially crippled themselves.
SQ have already publicly stated they weren't happy with their VA stake during Q3 2018 when they directly blamed VA for a profit downturn.

The VS/VA tie-up most likely would've been done under direct instruction from their 'masters' DL as owners of VS. The Air France/KLM stake in VS is really a proxy for DL. Whatever DL says to VS, VS follows.

I would not be surprised if DL once figures in the frame for VA should EY/HNA or SQ sells out of VA.

danair380 wrote:
Anyone know anything about why all of the EVA flights to BNE have been cancelled this week?


Ongoing FA strike action. The majority of BR's network is affected by the flight cancellations.


Both SQ and EY have agreements with VA between Australia and the UK.

I doubt DL would have done anything. There’s roughly 5 flights in scope here. It would have come from SRB to give the brands a bit of a boost.


Yeah I don't think they would have had massive influence (there are bigger things for them to focus on) but I'm sure somewhere in the DL strategy for VS and VA has been a closer working arrangement. And if VS and VA can come to some sort of agreement for an attractive LHR service ex HKG it might just work.

Related but different question - would VA look at SIN again now its not part owned by SQ?
 
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:26 am

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Eva Air has canned services to BNE until 20 July at the earliest

https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 77888?s=21


Not good for them at all. EVA normally does pretty well over school holiday period out of BNE so they are missing out.
 
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:50 am

Related but different question - would VA look at SIN again now its not part owned by SQ?


VA remains part owned by SQ.

If your question is hypothetical based on SQ maybe selling out of VA at some point, the answer probably remains no. Whether there was an ownership relationship or not, both airlines would maintain a codeshare and FF relationship. QF and SQ would never be allowed to tie-up between AU and SIN on competition grounds and VA would struggle to get sufficient volume on the route to create a meaningful presence.
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Related but different question - would VA look at SIN again now its not part owned by SQ?


VA remains part owned by SQ.

Sorry I meant VS......
 
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:28 am

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tullamarine wrote:
Related but different question - would VA look at SIN again now its not part owned by SQ?


VA remains part owned by SQ.

Sorry I meant VS......

The answer is probably no. More than ever VS is stressing the Atlantic in its name with only limited services to the east. It has recently exited DXB; it retains operations into northern Asia, South Africa and ,I think, some into India but the majority of its services are into the USA. As you point out DL is very much in control and it will only be flying where DL sees it as adding value to the combined entity.
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Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:38 am

Quick question for the brains trust on here please...

Is the PX 767 the only passenger 767 scheduled into any Australian airport? I spotted PX4 leaving BNE during the week and I couldn’t think of any other 767’s in pax service to Australia. Same day there was an Atlas pax 767 in town which is what prompted the thought as that was a rare charter.

Thanks in advance to any who can answer.
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Quick question for the brains trust on here please...

Is the PX 767 the only passenger 767 scheduled into any Australian airport? I spotted PX4 leaving BNE during the week and I couldn’t think of any other 767’s in pax service to Australia. Same day there was an Atlas pax 767 in town which is what prompted the thought as that was a rare charter.

Thanks in advance to any who can answer.

From memory they are, after NZ's 767 retirement.

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Quick question for the brains trust on here please...

Is the PX 767 the only passenger 767 scheduled into any Australian airport? I spotted PX4 leaving BNE during the week and I couldn’t think of any other 767’s in pax service to Australia. Same day there was an Atlas pax 767 in town which is what prompted the thought as that was a rare charter.

Thanks in advance to any who can answer.


Correct, there has also been an Omni 767-200 flying into BNE the last week or so for TS19 and another Omni 763 into TSV this afternoon.
 
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This morning a China Airways A350 diverted to Canberra. I saw it fly overhead and couldn't for the life of me work out what it was. Is this the first time an A350 has touched down in CBR?
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I was picking my sister and nephew up from BNE today and noticed an Atlas 744F N477MC departing for an "unknown destination" according to FR24. I had been instructed to take a picture of their plane arriving so luckily I had my phone ready when it took me my surprise. I found out from FlightAware that the "unknown destination" is HKG.

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Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:17 am

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This morning a China Airways A350 diverted to Canberra. I saw it fly overhead and couldn't for the life of me work out what it was. Is this the first time an A350 has touched down in CBR?


There's no other pictures of an A350 at CBR in the database so I assume it could be the first for CBR. It was diverted to CBR due to fog at its destination.

The OTP around the country the past couple of days has simply been woeful. SYD has had fog for the last 2 days (that I am of) causing diversions. I know that last night's VA redeye to SYD ended up diverting to MEL. Of course this is happening while its school holidays, typical, loads are already high which puts a greater stress load on everyone involved. Its about time that it was put on SYD's agenda about upgrading to CAT III. The upline delays it causes are massive and I would actually like to see both Qantas and Virgin be a bit more vocal on that front, the amount of $$$ it cost them with these sort of delays must be significant
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https://www.flightradar24.com/JST753/212f4dbc

JQ 753 BNE-LST did a go round at LST and is diverting, it would seem, to HBA
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Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:49 am

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This morning a China Airways A350 diverted to Canberra. I saw it fly overhead and couldn't for the life of me work out what it was. Is this the first time an A350 has touched down in CBR?

Their was a China Airlines A350 which diverted to Canberra back in September last year. (B-18917 as CI55). I believe that was the 1st A350 to visit Canberra.
 
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Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:23 am

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From memory they are, after NZ's 767 retirement.

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VHZNE wrote:
Correct, there has also been an Omni 767-200 flying into BNE the last week or so for TS19 and another Omni 763 into TSV this afternoon.


Thank you both.

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https://www.flightradar24.com/JST753/212f4dbc

JQ 753 BNE-LST did a go round at LST and is diverting, it would seem, to HBA


I cannot believe that this service left BNE tonight to be honest. JQ cancelled four rotations (8 flights) in and out of LST, QLink had a diversion to DPO and VA cancelled some services. Thick fog in LST all day today apparently, such that the last inbounds to LST from MEL that would normally overnight have been cancelled and hence tomorrow morning’s first flights are canned.

JQ753 was a sure thing to divert tonight...
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JQ 753 BNE-LST did a go round at LST and is diverting, it would seem, to HBA


I cannot believe that this service left BNE tonight to be honest. JQ cancelled four rotations (8 flights) in and out of LST, QLink had a diversion to DPO and VA cancelled some services. Thick fog in LST all day today apparently, such that the last inbounds to LST from MEL that would normally overnight have been cancelled and hence tomorrow morning’s first flights are canned.

JQ753 was a sure thing to divert tonight...


JQ733 managed to land into LST without diverting today, and also managed to take off as well, so it was certainly doable
 
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Another interesting diversion today was FJ SUV-SYD ended up diverting to BNE. Equipment was 737-700 DQ-FJF
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Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:38 pm

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Another interesting diversion today was FJ SUV-SYD ended up diverting to BNE. Equipment was 737-700 DQ-FJF


A CX 773ER diverted to BNE today too from what I saw on the YBBN spotters facebook page.

There have been some additional scheduled Virgin flights in and out of Townsville due to the Watpac Townsville 400 V8 supercars round this weekend. Direct service from MEL, 2x additional direct evening services from SYD and a few additional BNE frequencies too from what I could gather. Obviously VA being a major sponsors of the series and no doubt involved in the movement of staff and equipment.

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Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:29 pm

A380 VH-OQG is now at 4 weeks in DRS,
Whereas the first aircraft (not refurbed) OQE only spent 16 days.

Is the plan still for OQK first or has this changed? Had previously been stated OQK would go in at the start of July.
 
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Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:34 pm

VA78 Operating APW-SYD (7JUL), as well as VA92 Operating APW-BNE (6JUL) both had tech stops in NAN for refueling, the flight that operated to Sydney picked up extra fuel as a precaution for the anticipated Fog in the Sydney area... unsure as to why the APW-BNE had a tech stop as well..... maybe not enough fuel in Samoa because of the amount of flights arriving/leaving for the South Pacific Games that Samoa is hosting.
 
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Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:13 pm

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JQ733 managed to land into LST without diverting today, and also managed to take off as well, so it was certainly doable



Yeah JQ733 did land but they fluked it. They got in through a hole, meanwhile the VA and QLink aircraft had missed and were holding. They tried again and missed.

My point about JQ753 was more that the last inbounds from Melbourne (JQ, QLink, VA) had all been cancelled at the same time the BNE service was leaving, yet they flew 2.5 hours to a high likelihood of missed approach and diversion. Poor pax had to bus from HBA I read this morning...
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Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:17 pm

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JQ733 managed to land into LST without diverting today, and also managed to take off as well, so it was certainly doable



Yeah JQ733 did land but they fluked it. They got in through a hole, meanwhile the VA and QLink aircraft had missed and were holding. They tried again and missed.

My point about JQ753 was more that the last inbounds from Melbourne (JQ, QLink, VA) had all been cancelled at the same time the BNE service was leaving, yet they flew 2.5 hours to a high likelihood of missed approach and diversion. Poor pax had to bus from HBA I read this morning...


A bus from HBA is better than still sitting in BNE.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:46 pm

Qmans wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:
This morning a China Airways A350 diverted to Canberra. I saw it fly overhead and couldn't for the life of me work out what it was. Is this the first time an A350 has touched down in CBR?

Their was a China Airlines A350 which diverted to Canberra back in September last year. (B-18917 as CI55). I believe that was the 1st A350 to visit Canberra.


Correct. If anyone is interested, there are photos of the September diversion in a facebook group called 'Canberra Plane Spotters'. I was fortunate to be able to see the CI depart yesterday afternoon, though can't really say I heard all that much of it given the two Q400s running up nearby!
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:32 am

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My point about JQ753 was more that the last inbounds from Melbourne (JQ, QLink, VA) had all been cancelled at the same time the BNE service was leaving, yet they flew 2.5 hours to a high likelihood of missed approach and diversion.


Weather doesn't tend to remain static for 2.5hrs
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:36 am

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moa999 wrote:
Boof wrote:
My point about JQ753 was more that the last inbounds from Melbourne (JQ, QLink, VA) had all been cancelled at the same time the BNE service was leaving, yet they flew 2.5 hours to a high likelihood of missed approach and diversion.


Weather doesn't tend to remain static for 2.5hrs


Agreed. Just seems strange that at 4pm JQ (and others) cancelled MEL-LST services due to land at 8pm, yet let this one operate in between times - especially when the forecast was fog all day and into the night. Seemed like a big punt to take when 90% of flights that day were canned or diverted.

Incidentally the fog returned mid morning today at LST and there was a few diversions to HBA as a result.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:55 am

The first non-stop MAN-Australia service is about to land in PER. Admittedly it's only a charter with fewer than 100 VIPs on board but still a bit newsworthy.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:28 am

David_itl wrote:
The first non-stop MAN-Australia service is about to land in PER. Admittedly it's only a charter with fewer than 100 VIPs on board but still a bit newsworthy.


Any other news?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:37 am

David_itl wrote:
The first non-stop MAN-Australia service is about to land in PER. Admittedly it's only a charter with fewer than 100 VIPs on board but still a bit newsworthy.


I'm sure this is the charter that brought the Man Utd soccer team, but would be great to know more about the flight.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:46 am

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I'm sure this is the charter that brought the Man Utd soccer team, but would be great to know more about the flight.


That's correct. It's P4-XTL, the Crystal VIP 777.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:23 am

qf744fan wrote:
David_itl wrote:
The first non-stop MAN-Australia service is about to land in PER. Admittedly it's only a charter with fewer than 100 VIPs on board but still a bit newsworthy.


I'm sure this is the charter that brought the Man Utd soccer team, but would be great to know more about the flight.


According to the MAN thread, it brought both Manchester United and Leeds United.
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