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Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:20 pm

It has been reported that Carl Jones, Director of Air Service Development at YVR, was in talks with Lima Airport Partners executives last week.

Both Air Canada and LATAM have reportedly been contacted as well to discuss the possibility of launching non-stop flights between Vancouver and Lima.

Sources:

https://centreforaviation.com/news/vancouver-airport-and-lima-airport-meet-to-discuss-direct-connectivity-for-2h2020-915355
https://gestion.pe/economia/vuelos-directos-lima-vancouver-canada-empezarian-2020-271076 (In Spanish)
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:46 pm

South America is a surprisingly unserved market from YVR. The excellent range of destinations via most US hubs would be the primary competition I'd guess. Lima seems an odd first choice given there's no obvious Peruvian community in Vancouver nor any obvious mining or other industry synergy. Good luck though. Would love to see LATAM in YVR.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:52 pm

It has been reported that Carl Jones, Director of Air Service Development at YVR, was in talks with Lima Airport Partners executives last week.

Both Air Canada and LATAM have reportedly been contacted as well to discuss the possibility of launching non-stop flights between Vancouver and Lima.

Sources:


They dont even know what they want, direct or non-stop flights...
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:54 pm

steveinbc wrote:
South America is a surprisingly unserved market from YVR. The excellent range of destinations via most US hubs would be the primary competition I'd guess. Lima seems an odd first choice given there's no obvious Peruvian community in Vancouver nor any obvious mining or other industry synergy. Good luck though. Would love to see LATAM in YVR.


There is a reason. The market isnt that big and its inconvenient geographically. I suppose they could market it as a connecting point to Asia, but YYZ covers it pretty well for connections through Canada. I guess its the same reason MIA is unserved to Asia.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:55 pm

That could probably drive a good amount of Asia traffic to connect in YVR for South America.
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:01 pm

First as said Air Canada uses YYZ as a Asia-Latin America hub and also YVR for Mexico (YVR-MEX carries a lot of Asia connections). Second Mexican citizens have VISA FREE access to Canada which drives up the traffic. For Chile, its in the USA Visa Waiver Program so they simply go via the USA (LAX/JFK). The fastest route from SCL is actually via AKL/MEL/SYD but the South Pacific crossing from South America to Australia/NZ is more expensive on LATAM/Qantas/AirNZ but I've noticed it has gotten cheaper lately ($1100 USD round-trip on SCL-MEL/AKL/SYD on LATAM). Finally the market is not there, there's barely any Latin Americas in Canada and the majority are concentrated in YYZ & YUL and the ones that are in YVR are from Mexico not deep South America.
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:48 pm

steveinbc wrote:
South America is a surprisingly unserved market from YVR. The excellent range of destinations via most US hubs would be the primary competition I'd guess.

It's mostly par for the course... even LAX, by easily the premier intercon gateway for western N.America, has very limited service to S.America; SFO even less so, and SEA none at all.

Primary O&D demand to S.America is Florida and New York City, with easy cnnx via Texas and Atlanta due to geography.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:38 pm

Seems there isn't much demand. I wonder if it would work on rouge, maybe 3x a week?
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:09 pm

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Seems there isn't much demand. I wonder if it would work on rouge, maybe 3x a week?


SFO-LIM, a market with much more demand, failed. I don’t see how this is a good idea at all.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:13 pm

LAXdude1023 wrote:
EvanWSFO wrote:
Seems there isn't much demand. I wonder if it would work on rouge, maybe 3x a week?


SFO-LIM, a market with much more demand, failed. I don’t see how this is a good idea at all.


Probably not. Even in the CP Air days it stopped at MEX, and was maybe twice a week.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:35 pm

RAGAZZO777 wrote:
It has been reported that Carl Jones, Director of Air Service Development at YVR, was in talks with Lima Airport Partners executives last week.

Both Air Canada and LATAM have reportedly been contacted as well to discuss the possibility of launching non-stop flights between Vancouver and Lima.

Sources:

https://centreforaviation.com/news/vancouver-airport-and-lima-airport-meet-to-discuss-direct-connectivity-for-2h2020-915355
https://gestion.pe/economia/vuelos-directos-lima-vancouver-canada-empezarian-2020-271076 (In Spanish)


= Well, Carl Jones is one of the biggest industry jokes out there. Selfish and opportunistic, I wonder how long he can actually last at YVR airport. Good luck with having AC or LA make this route work.

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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:55 am

I think YVR-SCL is more likely honestly because the pax would be bigger as Chileans would not need a visa to transit in Canada. That is a route that AC can focus on in connecting them to Asia and compete with Australia/New Zealand routes.
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:54 am

I am skeptical too... It does not seem to be a big market and there are also some options with short connections with AA via DFW, UA via IAH and AM via MEX.

For South America, I think a YVR-GRU flight with AC is more likely, they are already trying seasonal YUL-GRU this year(together with their year-round YYZ-GRU), perhaps if it doesn't work they might change this flight to YVR.

But if this LIM-YVR happens, it would certainly be Rouge... YYZ-LIM is a Rouge route. I don't see LA doing this, if they go forward with the JV with AA (even without Chile) I see this making zero sense for LA, since AA has the shortest connection already in this route
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:47 am

In the 80s CPAir had a flight Vancouver - Lima - Santiago - Buenos Aires. Flight 423/424 in this "Flight Servides" guide in the 1981 timetable. Unfortunately, the entire timetable isn't posted: http://timetableimages.com/i-bc/cp8104i.jpg
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:05 pm

If one pulls out Great Circle Mapper, you’d see that with various combinations from South America to Asia, routings through YYZ are not much further than through YVR. And .... in some cases, shorter. The greatest difference is noted on the west side of South America, like SCL and LIM, and even still, around 200 miles.

With excellent connections from YVR to YYZ to South America, Air Canada likely already knows how feasible a direct flight from YVR would be.

CPAir had flights from NRT/HKG through MEX/LIM and south mostly due to range limitations of aircraft at the time. They also had connecting flights timed out of YYZ to MEX and LIM for destinations further south. With the advent of Asia to YYZ and YYZ to Deep South America flights, traffic now greater reflects demand.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:37 pm

YYZORD wrote:
I think YVR-SCL is more likely honestly because the pax would be bigger as Chileans would not need a visa to transit in Canada. That is a route that AC can focus on in connecting them to Asia and compete with Australia/New Zealand routes.


So, what are the PDEWs SCL-YVR and SCL-TYO/ICN/PVG/PEK...? Just how many Asia-bound Chileans are there on a regular basis?
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:21 pm

It would serve Asia connections well. Connecting via LAX is not convenient due to the visa requirement. The distance is 8100km. Can it be done by an A321XLR? Seems marginal but not impossible. It probably isn't that difficult to have 150+ pax 4 or 5 days a week connecting to Lima from all across Asia.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:31 pm

YYZORD wrote:
I think YVR-SCL is more likely honestly because the pax would be bigger as Chileans would not need a visa to transit in Canada. That is a route that AC can focus on in connecting them to Asia and compete with Australia/New Zealand routes.


Who in their right mind would fly SCL-YVR-SYD/AKL when there is a nonstop available and it’s over 6,000 miles out of the way?
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:32 pm

raylee67 wrote:
It would serve Asia connections well. Connecting via LAX is not convenient due to the visa requirement. The distance is 8100km. Can it be done by an A321XLR? Seems marginal but not impossible. It probably isn't that difficult to have 150+ pax 4 or 5 days a week connecting to Lima from all across Asia.


And why doesn’t YYZ work just fine for this?
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:38 pm

LAXdude1023, he means flying from South America to Asia via Australia/NZ. SCL-SYD/AKL-HKG/HND/NRT/SIN is currently the fastest route from Western South America. GRU-DXB/JNB/MAD/FRA/CDG/LHR-HND/NRT/HKG/SIN is currently the fastest route in terms of flying time from Eastern South America. From Central America it is faster to go via MEX which has non-stops to NRT, ICN, PVG & PEK on AM, NH & HU. You can also go to NRT via MEX (GRU-MEX-NRT) which is the fastest via MEX as the west-bound is non-stop (weight restricted due to MEX elevation).
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:50 pm

LAXdude1023 wrote:
raylee67 wrote:
It would serve Asia connections well. Connecting via LAX is not convenient due to the visa requirement. The distance is 8100km. Can it be done by an A321XLR? Seems marginal but not impossible. It probably isn't that difficult to have 150+ pax 4 or 5 days a week connecting to Lima from all across Asia.


And why doesn’t YYZ work just fine for this?


YYZ works, but it has less connections to Asia, e.g. AC doesn't fly to TPE, KIX, NGO, etc. directly from YYZ. While they individually may not provide a lot of pax for LIM, they may add up. There are also other Asian carriers flying into YVR that doesn't fly into YYZ.

More importantly, the current schedule of AC's YYZ-LIM service seems to be not coordinated with Asia flight arrivals, so it seems connecting with Asia flights is not something AC has in mind when putting in the YYZ-LIM service. e.g.
YYZ > LIM departs YYZ at 6pm
HKG > YYZ arrives YYZ at 615pm
HND > YYZ arrives YYZ at 445pm
PVG > YYZ arrives YYZ at 710pm
PEK > YYZ arrives YYZ at 7pm
ICN > YYZ arrives YYZ at 635pm

This means that only HND > YYZ can connect to LIM, and even that is a very tight connection. Any delay of the incoming flight and you will miss the outgoing one.

YYZ may cater better for connection from Europe.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:02 pm

If you read my post properly, I said YVR-SCL would compete with AKL/SYD-SCL for Asia flights. SCL-YVR-NRT/HND vs SCL-AKL/SYD-NRT-HND.

LAXdude1023 wrote:
YYZORD wrote:
I think YVR-SCL is more likely honestly because the pax would be bigger as Chileans would not need a visa to transit in Canada. That is a route that AC can focus on in connecting them to Asia and compete with Australia/New Zealand routes.


Who in their right mind would fly SCL-YVR-SYD/AKL when there is a nonstop available and it’s over 6,000 miles out of the way?
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:15 pm

I find it amusing that there is no airline flying this route, so the 2 airports get together and have a chat about opening a route.

Since when did airport operators actually operate flights? Maybe they should focus on operating their respective airports, and leave the routes up to the airlines!
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:53 pm

sassiciai wrote:
I find it amusing that there is no airline flying this route, so the 2 airports get together and have a chat about opening a route.

Since when did airport operators actually operate flights? Maybe they should focus on operating their respective airports, and leave the routes up to the airlines!


Most major airports have a route development team that tries to secure new airlines and/or destinations.

What about a one stop SCL-LIM-YVR or similar on LATAM or AC? Interestingly, WestJet had YVR-LIM, SCL and EZE on their 787 potential route map. Though I suspect that would be many years away, if ever.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:27 pm

mauro10 wrote:
I am skeptical too... It does not seem to be a big market and there are also some options with short connections with AA via DFW, UA via IAH and AM via MEX.

For South America, I think a YVR-GRU flight with AC is more likely, they are already trying seasonal YUL-GRU this year(together with their year-round YYZ-GRU), perhaps if it doesn't work they might change this flight to YVR.

But if this LIM-YVR happens, it would certainly be Rouge... YYZ-LIM is a Rouge route. I don't see LA doing this, if they go forward with the JV with AA (even without Chile) I see this making zero sense for LA, since AA has the shortest connection already in this route


AC does not have Rouge crew bases on the West coast. It does not seem logical for them to get into this type of expansion. To rotate a Rouge 767 down to South America and then back to YYZ/YUL would be an operational headache.
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:19 am

Airports can talk all they want. It costs them nothing if an airline launches services, poops the bed and loses a couple million before cancelling service.

If YVR and Lima want n/s service, they need to fork out a $150k operating subsidy per r/t for the first 6 months of ops.

That might get the attention of the airlines, who actually incur the cost of operating the flights.
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:40 pm

YYZORD wrote:
If you read my post properly, I said YVR-SCL would compete with AKL/SYD-SCL for Asia flights. SCL-YVR-NRT/HND vs SCL-AKL/SYD-NRT-HND.

LAXdude1023 wrote:
YYZORD wrote:
I think YVR-SCL is more likely honestly because the pax would be bigger as Chileans would not need a visa to transit in Canada. That is a route that AC can focus on in connecting them to Asia and compete with Australia/New Zealand routes.


Who in their right mind would fly SCL-YVR-SYD/AKL when there is a nonstop available and it’s over 6,000 miles out of the way?


Ok. Im sorry I misread your intent.

Its still a ridiculous route idea IMO. Canada requires a visa for Peruvians just as the US does. The EU does not. If they dont have those visas, its just as well to transit in CDG or AMS which offer decent connections to Asia.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:03 pm

1. AC flies to LIM for 2 reasons. O&D and cargo.

Enough with the "Asia connections" bit. That's not what AC is after. Or else they would have started YVR-LIM ahead of YUL-LIM.

2. How many destinations outside North America does AC fly to from all 3 of its main hubs? Can you see LIM being a part of that very short list ?

I don't.

3. LATAM has bigger fish to fry than YVR.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:52 pm

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South America is a surprisingly unserved market from YVR. The excellent range of destinations via most US hubs would be the primary competition I'd guess. Lima seems an odd first choice given there's no obvious Peruvian community in Vancouver nor any obvious mining or other industry synergy. Good luck though. Would love to see LATAM in YVR.


There is a sizeable one in the greater Seattle area that would flock to use the service.
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:15 pm

7673mech wrote:
steveinbc wrote:
South America is a surprisingly unserved market from YVR. The excellent range of destinations via most US hubs would be the primary competition I'd guess. Lima seems an odd first choice given there's no obvious Peruvian community in Vancouver nor any obvious mining or other industry synergy. Good luck though. Would love to see LATAM in YVR.


There is a sizeable one in the greater Seattle area that would flock to use the service.


No, there isnt.

In 2017, these were the largest Peruvian communities in the US.

1. NYC MSA: 108,646 people
2. Miami MSA: 64,836 people
3. DC MSA: 37,543 people
4. Los Angeles MSA: 35,564 people
5. San Francisco MSA: 15,153 people
6. Orlando MSA: 8112 people
7. Houston MSA: 7761 people
8. Chicago MSA: 7675 people
9. Riverside, CA MSA: 7014 people
10. Dallas MSA: 6899 people
11. Boston MSA: 6262 people
12. Tampa MSA: 5970 people
13. Bridgeport, CT MSA: 5893 people
14. Atlanta MSA: 5698 people
15. Hartford, CT MSA: 5574 people

The greater Seattle area has 3,038.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:46 pm

Yea that's why I recommended YVR-SCL, Chileans don't need a visa to come to Canada.

LAXdude1023 wrote:
YYZORD wrote:
If you read my post properly, I said YVR-SCL would compete with AKL/SYD-SCL for Asia flights. SCL-YVR-NRT/HND vs SCL-AKL/SYD-NRT-HND.

LAXdude1023 wrote:

Who in their right mind would fly SCL-YVR-SYD/AKL when there is a nonstop available and it’s over 6,000 miles out of the way?


Ok. Im sorry I misread your intent.

Its still a ridiculous route idea IMO. Canada requires a visa for Peruvians just as the US does. The EU does not. If they dont have those visas, its just as well to transit in CDG or AMS which offer decent connections to Asia.
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:25 pm

YYZORD wrote:
Yea that's why I recommended YVR-SCL, Chileans don't need a visa to come to Canada.

LAXdude1023 wrote:
YYZORD wrote:
If you read my post properly, I said YVR-SCL would compete with AKL/SYD-SCL for Asia flights. SCL-YVR-NRT/HND vs SCL-AKL/SYD-NRT-HND.



Ok. Im sorry I misread your intent.

Its still a ridiculous route idea IMO. Canada requires a visa for Peruvians just as the US does. The EU does not. If they dont have those visas, its just as well to transit in CDG or AMS which offer decent connections to Asia.


Chileans don’t need a visa for the US either. If SCL-Secondary Asia was big, SCL-SFO would be better but it isn’t. Between YYZ, LAX, DFW, ATL, IAH, SYD, and the European carriers, SCL-Asia is fine.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:22 pm

7673mech wrote:
steveinbc wrote:
South America is a surprisingly unserved market from YVR. The excellent range of destinations via most US hubs would be the primary competition I'd guess. Lima seems an odd first choice given there's no obvious Peruvian community in Vancouver nor any obvious mining or other industry synergy. Good luck though. Would love to see LATAM in YVR.


There is a sizeable one in the greater Seattle area that would flock to use the service.


SEA-LAX-LIM better option.
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:37 am

By Which airline?
AC, LATAM?

LATAM LIM-SFO didn't work and that was a bigger market, however, it worked for CM PTY-SFO (up to thrice daily depending demand).

If the drive for such Western Canada - Peru flight is mining and oil, then YYC/YEG-LIM should be the route.

There's a demand for South America - YVR, but the best candidate for that route right now is CM B737MAX.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:13 pm

So, against all odds, LATAM is about to announce its first non-stop route from South America ever: LIM-YVR-LIM

According to unofficial sources the route would be launched during the second half of 2020.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:30 pm

RAGAZZO777 wrote:
So, against all odds, LATAM is about to announce its first non-stop route from South America ever: LIM-YVR-LIM

According to unofficial sources the route would be launched during the second half of 2020.


I think you must mean first non-stop between South America and YVR, not sure if they tried YYZ in the past. When was the last time YVR had a non-stop flight to South America, I think CP Air operated that route back in the 1990's.
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:57 pm

9252fly wrote:
RAGAZZO777 wrote:
So, against all odds, LATAM is about to announce its first non-stop route from South America ever: LIM-YVR-LIM

According to unofficial sources the route would be launched during the second half of 2020.


I think you must mean first non-stop between South America and YVR, not sure if they tried YYZ in the past. When was the last time YVR had a non-stop flight to South America, I think CP Air operated that route back in the 1990's.


Yes, that's what I meant! Thanks.

Apparently LATAM Perú would operate the route with the 787-8 Dreamliner.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:07 pm

Surprised COPA didn't already serve YVR to take advantage of their connections to South America. At the moment it's all via MEX if they can't connect through the US.

During the days of the TWOV program where they could just show up at airport as a TWOV, used to see a lot more Latin American connections through DFW/IAH/LAX but that's less possible now.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:12 pm

9252fly wrote:
RAGAZZO777 wrote:
So, against all odds, LATAM is about to announce its first non-stop route from South America ever: LIM-YVR-LIM

According to unofficial sources the route would be launched during the second half of 2020.


I think you must mean first non-stop between South America and YVR, not sure if they tried YYZ in the past. When was the last time YVR had a non-stop flight to South America, I think CP Air operated that route back in the 1990's.


Indeed CP Air flew from YVR to Lima through 1970's (https://www.flickr.com/photos/erussell1984/32009184287) and right through the 1980's (http://www.departedflights.com/CP042785.html).

In fact they even had a crew base in Lima for a while who operated the onward sectors to Santiago and Buenos Aires.

Interesting that 30 and 40 years ago had better direct service to South America than today!
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:23 am

alan3 wrote:
Surprised COPA didn't already serve YVR to take advantage of their connections to South America.
Very simple: 1 None of CM aircraft has the range for PTY-YVR and
2 CM is using all of Panama frequencies to Canada between YYZ and YUL.
Still passengers could fly to YYZ and connect with AC to YVR.

Surprised AV doesn't fly SAL-YVR yet, at least for LIM, that would be a good connection avoiding U.S. airports.
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:08 am

RAGAZZO777 wrote:
9252fly wrote:
RAGAZZO777 wrote:
So, against all odds, LATAM is about to announce its first non-stop route from South America ever: LIM-YVR-LIM

According to unofficial sources the route would be launched during the second half of 2020.


I think you must mean first non-stop between South America and YVR, not sure if they tried YYZ in the past. When was the last time YVR had a non-stop flight to South America, I think CP Air operated that route back in the 1990's.


Yes, that's what I meant! Thanks.

Apparently LATAM Perú would operate the route with the 787-8 Dreamliner.


If this actually happens, LA would need WS feed in YVR to make this work, which is likely given they are codeshare partners and interline.
Not to mention that for South America, YVR provides circuitous connecting itineraries on top of having AM, AC, AA, UA, DL competing with established one-stop itineraries.
 
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Re: Vancouver Airport and Lima Airport meet to discuss direct flights

Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:35 am

LATAM couldn't even make LIM-IAD or SFO work, both of which are larger metro areas with larger Peruvian populations. YVR isn't happening.
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