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9 mos. after leaving it, Avianca returns to the Honduran domestic market

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:35 pm
by dcajet
With new leadership at the helm, Avianca has returned to the Honduran domestic market, about nine months after abandoning it. It has restarted flights between Honduras' capital Tegucigalpa and San Pedro Sula.

Re: 9 mos. after leaving it, Avianca returns to the Honduran domestic market

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:56 am
by gatibosgru
Hopefully a good sign of where things are going for Avianca.

Re: 9 mos. after leaving it, Avianca returns to the Honduran domestic market

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:19 pm
by TWA902fly
Found this but only in Spanish.

https://www.avianca.com/bo/es/sobre-nosotros/centro-noticias/noticias-avianca/operaciones-tegucigalpa-san-pedro-sula/

Looks like a daily ATR 72-600

AV750 depart TGU 0820 arrive SAP 0909 (Daily)
AV751 depart SAP 1730 arrive TGU 1816 (Daily)

'902

Re: 9 mos. after leaving it, Avianca returns to the Honduran domestic market

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:55 pm
by avi8
TWA902fly wrote:
Found this but only in Spanish.

https://www.avianca.com/bo/es/sobre-nosotros/centro-noticias/noticias-avianca/operaciones-tegucigalpa-san-pedro-sula/

Looks like a daily ATR 72-600

AV750 depart TGU 0820 arrive SAP 0909 (Daily)
AV751 depart SAP 1730 arrive TGU 1816 (Daily)

'902


This is great for Hondurans. This is a very important route. Hopefully the ATRs stay in AV. Also, surprised they are keeping the daily MIA flight, GUA’s flight is gone.

Re: 9 mos. after leaving it, Avianca returns to the Honduran domestic market

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:10 pm
by mauro10
If you don't like a thread, just go to the next one, simple as that.

Nice to see AV kinda returning to the roots. I felt that under Efromovich they were reducing Central America service to compete against LATAM in South America and it didn't end quite well.

Re: 9 mos. after leaving it, Avianca returns to the Honduran domestic market

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:29 pm
by lightsaber
Folks, often side topics break out of mega threads to allow small group discussion. If you see a post violating forum rules, flag the post.

Please continue discussion on topic.

Lightsaber

Re: 9 mos. after leaving it, Avianca returns to the Honduran domestic market

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:08 pm
by RCS763AV
Sorry for pointing out the OP didn't have a source, any schedule posted or any substantialt content. It was an empty post which didn't even seem to deserve a thread as it had no real topic. We should raise the quality of posts in the forum. This goes to my fellow forum members and to the mods, stop being so sensitive!

Anyways, now that there is some information in the thread, i'm glad Avianca is optimizing its offer in Honduras. What puzzles me is the route will be flown by an ATR 72-600, meaning that some of the fleet is staying in operation in Central America. This raises a couple of questions (i) who's going to operate those aircraft after the regional central american subsidiaries were sold? (ii) might Regional Express Americas operate the flights? and if not (ii) will a new central american regional airline be created à la Regional Express Américas in Colombia, given that a once daily rotation between SAP and TGU seems like awfully low aircraft utilization?

And in light of this low utilization of the aircraft and how swiftly the decision was taken, was this some kind of political statement with Honduran authorities? Would be great if we could know more about this, as it seems a bit odd.

Re: 9 mos. after leaving it, Avianca returns to the Honduran domestic market

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:32 pm
by dcajet
RCS763AV wrote:
Sorry for pointing out the OP didn't have a source, any schedule posted or any substantialt content. It was an empty post which didn't even seem to deserve a thread as it had no real topic. We should raise the quality of posts in the forum. This goes to my fellow forum members and to the mods, stop being so sensitive!


Glad to see you have appointed yourself the monitor of quality on the site. There was nothing empty about my post. It is a fact. What else you needed? Wanted more info? Google is your friend. Clearly AV changing their stance on domestic ops in Honduras seems to have hit a nerve in you as per your comments below.

RCS763AV wrote:
Anyways, now that there is some information in the thread, i'm glad Avianca is optimizing its offer in Honduras. What puzzles me is the route will be flown by an ATR 72-600, meaning that some of the fleet is staying in operation in Central America. This raises a couple of questions (i) who's going to operate those aircraft after the regional central american subsidiaries were sold? (ii) might Regional Express Americas operate the flights? and if not (ii) will a new central american regional airline be created à la Regional Express Américas in Colombia, given that a once daily rotation between SAP and TGU seems like awfully low aircraft utilization?

And in light of this low utilization of the aircraft and how swiftly the decision was taken, was this some kind of political statement with Honduran authorities? Would be great if we could know more about this, as it seems a bit odd.


I am sure you know that there is a new sheriff in that town called Avianca Holdings, and one with Central American roots and background. This may have something to do with this reversal of a business decision.

Re: 9 mos. after leaving it, Avianca returns to the Honduran domestic market

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:06 pm
by aemoreira1981
Not surprised now that the former TACA owners are on the board. They probably had a major say in this.

Re: 9 mos. after leaving it, Avianca returns to the Honduran domestic market

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:55 am
by LightChop2Chop
Might this have anything to do with keeping their Honduran traffic rights?

I believe they have to operate GUA FRS in order to keep their ability / rights to carry international pax onward from GUA (to LAX for example)

Re: 9 mos. after leaving it, Avianca returns to the Honduran domestic market

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:05 pm
by PSAatSAN4Ever
TWA902fly wrote:
Found this but only in Spanish.

https://www.avianca.com/bo/es/sobre-nosotros/centro-noticias/noticias-avianca/operaciones-tegucigalpa-san-pedro-sula/

Looks like a daily ATR 72-600

AV750 depart TGU 0820 arrive SAP 0909 (Daily)
AV751 depart SAP 1730 arrive TGU 1816 (Daily)

'902


I'm going to assume that there are other flights during the day for this plane, and that TGU-SAP is a tag-on but with full traffic rights within Honduras. Where else will Avianca be flying from SAP?

Re: 9 mos. after leaving it, Avianca returns to the Honduran domestic market

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:19 pm
by jetKIWI
PSAatSAN4Ever wrote:
TWA902fly wrote:
Found this but only in Spanish.

https://www.avianca.com/bo/es/sobre-nosotros/centro-noticias/noticias-avianca/operaciones-tegucigalpa-san-pedro-sula/

Looks like a daily ATR 72-600

AV750 depart TGU 0820 arrive SAP 0909 (Daily)
AV751 depart SAP 1730 arrive TGU 1816 (Daily)

'902


I'm going to assume that there are other flights during the day for this plane, and that TGU-SAP is a tag-on but with full traffic rights within Honduras. Where else will Avianca be flying from SAP?


Hopefully we'll see Avianca resume Roatan (RTB) - San Pedro Sula (SAP) to allow for connections to IAH/EWR (UA) and MIA.

Re: 9 mos. after leaving it, Avianca returns to the Honduran domestic market

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:28 pm
by skybird77
Nice to see they brought the route back and give Honduras some love. Maybe they'll bring back the second run with the early evening departure to SAP? Interesting they swapped out the E190 with a 319 to SAL. Now, if they would only bring back the MIA-TGU route. Although I'm an AAdvantage member, I would like the Avianca option, plus its competition against the current AA monopoly on that route.

Re: 9 mos. after leaving it, Avianca returns to the Honduran domestic market

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:50 pm
by dcajet
skybird77 wrote:
Interesting they swapped out the E190 with a 319 to SAL.


The E190 fleet has been withdrawn from service by Avianca. Last flight was on 30/6/19 between SAP and SAL.

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