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July 7 DL583 DTW-PVG uses A332?

Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:32 pm

Delta flight status shows that July 7 DL583 DTW-PVG uses A332. DTW-PVG Great Circle distance is 7,137 miles. Delta lists A332 range at 6,536 miles, which is not even close. Does anyone know why Delta would attempt this?
 
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Re: July 7 DL583 DTW-PVG uses A332?

Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:40 pm

DTW-PVG is 6,202 NM ....7,137 is SM
 
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Re: July 7 DL583 DTW-PVG uses A332?

Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:52 pm

My guess - Look for this as a tech sub in the regular DL widebody thread.
 
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Re: July 7 DL583 DTW-PVG uses A332?

Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:56 pm

To avoid the confusion of nm vs. sm, let’s use km... DTW-PVG Great Circle distance is 11,485km. Delta lists A332 range at 10,519km, still short by ~1,000km for the distance it intends to cover. This is just weird.
 
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Re: July 7 DL583 DTW-PVG uses A332?

Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:07 pm

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Re: July 7 DL583 DTW-PVG uses A332?

Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:35 pm

They are down a A359 due to a lightning strike in PEK. A/C is in DTW at the moment.
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Re: July 7 DL583 DTW-PVG uses A332?

Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:36 pm

They can always refuel in Alaska if needed.
 
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Re: July 7 DL583 DTW-PVG uses A332?

Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:20 pm

MonAmQB wrote:
Delta flight status shows that July 7 DL583 DTW-PVG uses A332. DTW-PVG Great Circle distance is 7,137 miles. Delta lists A332 range at 6,536 miles, which is not even close. Does anyone know why Delta would attempt this?


Well, do you know what if any load restrictions the flight had? The A332 (and particularly the IGW 242T version) can fly 15hr segments without trouble. AR flies daily the EZE-FCO route, the longest non stop by distance route for the A332, at 6,919 statute miles. With careful planning and some restrictions in place, DTW-PVG is perfectly doable.
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Re: July 7 DL583 DTW-PVG uses A332?

Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:37 pm

MonAmQB wrote:
To avoid the confusion of nm vs. sm, let’s use km... DTW-PVG Great Circle distance is 11,485km. Delta lists A332 range at 10,519km, still short by ~1,000km for the distance it intends to cover. This is just weird.


Why is it weird? There are tech subs every day. They'll fly light (low passenger and freight load) if they can. If they can't do that they will schedule a tech stop for refueling. They WILL NOT crash into the ocean some hundreds of km short of PVG. Do you think cancelling the outbound and return flights is better than a tech stop in both directions?
 
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Re: July 7 DL583 DTW-PVG uses A332?

Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:08 pm

dcajet wrote:
MonAmQB wrote:
Delta flight status shows that July 7 DL583 DTW-PVG uses A332. DTW-PVG Great Circle distance is 7,137 miles. Delta lists A332 range at 6,536 miles, which is not even close. Does anyone know why Delta would attempt this?


Well, do you know what if any load restrictions the flight had? The A332 (and particularly the IGW 242T version) can fly 15hr segments without trouble. AR flies daily the EZE-FCO route, the longest non stop by distance route for the A332, at 6,919 statute miles. With careful planning and some restrictions in place, DTW-PVG is perfectly doable.

DL doesn’t have any 242T A332s. That said DL use to fly the A332 regularly scheduled on DTW-PEK, about 6,600 miles. Being a polar route helps a lot as winds are less of an issue. Obviously the plane flying to PVG will have weight restrictions and probably some seats blocked, but it is better than just canceling the flight due to a lack of available A350 at the moment.

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