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MAX in service at MIA? Is it possible?

Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:42 pm

Yesterday I was transferring at Miami. Is it possible that I saw 2 737 MAX 8 in service? One Copa and another oneAeromexico. One at the gate and another one taxiing.At first I couldn’t believe but the winglets were definitely Max. Later I tried to find some info about reentering the service, but I didn’t find anything so I am not sure anymore. Maybe I missed update about these planes being back in service or were my eyes cheating me?Unfortunately I didn’t take any photo.
 
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Re: MAX in service at MIA? Is it possible?

Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:01 pm

Airhaiku wrote:
Yesterday I was transferring at Miami. Is it possible that I saw 2 737 MAX 8 in service? One Copa and another oneAeromexico. One at the gate and another one taxiing.At first I couldn’t believe but the winglets were definitely Max. Later I tried to find some info about reentering the service, but I didn’t find anything so I am not sure anymore. Maybe I missed update about these planes being back in service or were my eyes cheating me?Unfortunately I didn’t take any photo.

I am certain that these were just 738s with split scimitar winglets. They can look quite similar, although there are a few key differences. The MAX most certainly remains grounded worldwide.
 
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Re: MAX in service at MIA? Is it possible?

Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:32 pm

atcsundevil wrote:
Airhaiku wrote:
At first I couldn’t believe but the winglets were definitely Max.

I am certain that these were just 738s with split scimitar winglets. They can look quite similar, although there are a few key differences. The MAX most certainly remains grounded worldwide.


Exactly - the Max winglets and split scimitars on 737 NG look very similar. Best way to spot a Max is the chevrons on the rear of the nacelles and the longer/different shaped tailcone.



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Re: MAX in service at MIA? Is it possible?

Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:33 pm

Airhaiku wrote:
Yesterday I was transferring at Miami. Is it possible that I saw 2 737 MAX 8 in service? One Copa and another oneAeromexico. One at the gate and another one taxiing.At first I couldn’t believe but the winglets were definitely Max. Later I tried to find some info about reentering the service, but I didn’t find anything so I am not sure anymore. Maybe I missed update about these planes being back in service or were my eyes cheating me?Unfortunately I didn’t take any photo.

You couldn't have seen a COPA 737 MAX 8 in MIA since they only have 737 MAX 9's.
And no, they are not back in service.

The tell-tale for the 737 MAX is to look at the Thrust Reverser Assemblies: only the MAX has the chevron Trailing Edges.
 
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Re: MAX in service at MIA? Is it possible?

Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:37 pm

WayexTDI wrote:
Airhaiku wrote:
Yesterday I was transferring at Miami. Is it possible that I saw 2 737 MAX 8 in service? One Copa and another oneAeromexico. One at the gate and another one taxiing.At first I couldn’t believe but the winglets were definitely Max. Later I tried to find some info about reentering the service, but I didn’t find anything so I am not sure anymore. Maybe I missed update about these planes being back in service or were my eyes cheating me?Unfortunately I didn’t take any photo.

You couldn't have seen a COPA 737 MAX 8 in MIA since they only have 737 MAX 9's.
And no, they are not back in service.

The tell-tale for the 737 MAX is to look at the Thrust Reverser Assemblies: only the MAX has the chevron Trailing Edges.


Agreed.

Also, the MAX planes have 787 like APU's in the rear.
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:57 am

The MAX winglets actually look very different to the scimitar winglets on the NG. The only thing that is the same is that one part goes up and the other down. The angles, sizes and shapes of those parts are very different.
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:27 am

YYZatcboy wrote:
The MAX winglets actually look very different to the scimitar winglets on the NG. The only thing that is the same is that one part goes up and the other down. The angles, sizes and shapes of those parts are very different.


“Other than the fact they look basically the same, they look very different.”
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:04 am

Longhornmaniac wrote:
YYZatcboy wrote:
The MAX winglets actually look very different to the scimitar winglets on the NG. The only thing that is the same is that one part goes up and the other down. The angles, sizes and shapes of those parts are very different.


“Other than the fact they look basically the same, they look very different.”


Respectfully, if people can't tell the difference they either don't know what the differences are, or need their eyes checked. They do look very different. I personally find the winglets easier to pick out at a distance than the engine chevrons, and the APU is a great way to tell as well, if you can see it.

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Re: MAX in service at MIA? Is it possible?

Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:58 am

YYZatcboy wrote:
Longhornmaniac wrote:
YYZatcboy wrote:
The MAX winglets actually look very different to the scimitar winglets on the NG. The only thing that is the same is that one part goes up and the other down. The angles, sizes and shapes of those parts are very different.


“Other than the fact they look basically the same, they look very different.”


Respectfully, if people can't tell the difference they either don't know what the differences are, or need their eyes checked. They do look very different. I personally find the winglets easier to pick out at a distance than the engine chevrons, and the APU is a great way to tell as well, if you can see it.

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To a casual observer, from very far away, very quickly?

No, that's not a good barometer.

As mentioned up thread, the nacelle chevrons and the empenage are the easiest ways to tell.


Airhaiku wrote:
Yesterday I was transferring at Miami. Is it possible that I saw 2 737 MAX 8 in service? One Copa and another oneAeromexico. One at the gate and another one taxiing.At first I couldn’t believe but the winglets were definitely Max. Later I tried to find some info about reentering the service, but I didn’t find anything so I am not sure anymore. Maybe I missed update about these planes being back in service or were my eyes cheating me?Unfortunately I didn’t take any photo.


Bottom line is MAXs are very likely not what you saw. Not much reason to pull a grounded airplane to a gate.

But I won't say it's a dumb question. If I had a nickle for everytime I saw something and thought 'what the hell is that?', I'd be wondering where all these damned nickles keep coming from.
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