mxaxai wrote:Also remember that gasoline and diesel as well as electrical power are heavily taxed (up to 60 % of the sales price is taxes). Usually for "ecologic reasons". Meanwhile, Jet-A is tax-free.
I don't think flying should be inherently expensive, but the cost of energy should definitely be comparable for all modes of transportation.
The oil based fuels started being taxed after the oil crisis, to disincentivize their waste, gas guzzler cars, etc. More recently the tune has changed to make it about pollution.
PatrickZ80 wrote:Aesma wrote:Connections aren't taxed, so I don't see how it would contribute to moving flights from CDG to AMS. Do you think people would rather ride several hours in a train from Paris to AMS to avoid that tax ? And how would that be cheaper than flying directly from CDG ?
That wouldn't do any good since the Netherlands also has plans to impose an aviation tax. However Belgium doesn't, so I could see a number of Dutch and French passengers traveling to Belgium to start their journey from there. Specially if you travel long haul, the country of departure would make a difference and by self-connections you could easily pick the cheapest (untaxed) country to depart from. That way, at most you're paying short haul tax for a long haul haul flight. Having a too high tax would seriously harm the long haul traffic from a country, while at the same time causing growth in another country with a lower tax.
Again, the tax is between 1.5€ and 18€ (for a business flight costing many many times that). You're not going to bother with anything for that little amount, not even think about it.
I agree that this should be an EU wide tax, or even a global one, or alternatively, there should be a global carbon tax on jet fuel. Macron has talked about this, so I expect it might come up in the EU at some point.
PatrickZ80 wrote:canmau wrote:Dieuwer wrote:Slap airline codes on every train and train station, and let pax connect to intercontinental flights from train to plane. Problem solved.
This is done to some extent in Germany with LH and Deutsche Bahn, I hope it does become more widespread
It's also done on the Thalys that runs between Amsterdam and Paris with a stop in Brussels on the way. Since the train stops at both Amsterdam airport and Paris Charles de Gaulle airport, it's perfect as a feeder and eliminates the need for flights. It's strange to see that France still has so many domestic flights on sectors where trains are available, however I assume they got some kind of legal obligation to fly those routes.
No there is no legal obligation if reasonable ground transport is available.
AF simply wants to feed its international flights. Or sometimes there is a train but it's not fast enough.