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Re: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL

Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:14 pm

DarthLobster wrote:
joeycapps wrote:
You'll never meet a more rabid crowd than some anti-smokers...


Cancer has that effect.


Yeah, alcoholism too, and Alzheimer's from marijuana, and let's not forget the heart disease from sugar.

jfklganyc wrote:
Those smoking rooms were disgusting

Although I do find the hypocrisy funny:

Liberal politicians are SO anti smoking and SO pro pot legalization.


Agreed! Not a smoker, but hate the hypocrisy. And, for the pro-pot guys out there, just wait ten more years when the ilks of RJ Reynolds owns 90% of the recreational pot distribution, then suddenly the past 50 years of medical research that shows the harmful affects of marijuana suddenly become validated.

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If people want to smoke then we should let them smoke, their life, their choices. They can be whoever they want to be.

Like someone mentioned above, these will be most likely replaced by fast food restaurants which will contribute to the diabetes epidemic that's ravaging the US. I mean, according to official statistics, there are more than 100.000.000 people in the US living with diabetes or pre-diabetes.

But hey, as long as we are banning tiny rooms that anyone notices. And by the way, this is coming from someone who has asthma and who doesn't smoke.


THANK YOU!! I can't wait to see the government oversight (looking at you New York) that is going to regulate calorie count for all food sold in airport concession shops and restaurants. I'm sure the day will come when a local governing body is going to till the airports what food and drinks they can sell too. :wink2:
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Re: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL

Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:22 pm

I always crack up when I'd walk past the ATL smoking rooms. Just smoke, obviously, but let them be.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:38 pm

Put in another "newsstand" selling overpriced drinks and candy? When are ATL going to ban selling all the high fructose corn syrup Coca Cola products? Rots your teeth, your guts and causes obesity. Maybe one day after Hell freezes over.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:00 pm

I see nothing wrong with having the rooms. They do a pretty good job at not letting the smoke odor into the terminal, and inside the room the air gets moved pretty fast.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:23 pm

I guess the restrooms will now become the de facto "Juuling" rooms.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:44 pm

BrodieBruce wrote:
The Nanny State claims another victim.


Or the government is appropriately protecting the health and well being of the 86% of the US population that does not smoke. For many non-smokers the smell of cigarettes is difficult to tolerate and if you have a breathing condition - asthma, allergies - it can trigger an attack. Virtually all public buildings are smoke-free. This is ATL (finally) acting responsibly and in line with current norms.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:53 pm

JAAlbert wrote:
BrodieBruce wrote:
The Nanny State claims another victim.


Or the government is appropriately protecting the health and well being of the 86% of the US population that does not smoke. For many non-smokers the smell of cigarettes is difficult to tolerate and if you have a breathing condition - asthma, allergies - it can trigger an attack. Virtually all public buildings are smoke-free. This is ATL (finally) acting responsibly and in line with current norms.

That's still Nanny State mentality: we will decide what's best for your health, not you.

If you have breathing condition, then I am wondering if being in an airport is wise in the first place: airports (even more so International Airports) are breeding grounds for bacteria, diseases and such, most of which are benign for the vast majority of people. So, it might be wiser to protect yourself with a mask, which would also protect from the tiny bit of smoke that might escape from those rooms when the door opens.
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:56 pm

I'm not a smoker but I totally think these rooms should stay in place. I've never noticed smoke smell leaking out from them. Not as many people smoke anymore, but I know a few and when they need their cigs, they NEED them. Talk about them getting stressed out, shaky etc. We need to let these people calm their nerves, however cigarettes do that.. Now smelly clothes from smoking, that's another story..
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:58 pm

Great. Now the bathrooms will smell like they do in every airport with a smoking ban.
As a non smoker that pisses me off.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:05 pm

PixelPilot wrote:
Great. Now the bathrooms will smell like they do in every airport with a smoking ban.
As a non smoker that pisses me off.

And that's a greater health risk for non-smokers, as bathroom ventilation is not as effective as that in the smoking rooms.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:11 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
Those smoking rooms were disgusting

Although I do find the hypocrisy funny:

Liberal politicians are SO anti smoking and SO pro pot legalization.


Speaking as a liberal, there is a big difference. There are no conclusive studies that pot use leads to the amount of cancer victims as cigarette smoking. As a passenger, I detest sitting next to someone who has been holed up in airport smoking room. I have to deal with the stench of their bad habits and bad decisions.
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:11 pm

JAAlbert wrote:
BrodieBruce wrote:
The Nanny State claims another victim.

Or the government is appropriately protecting the health and well being of the 86% of the US population that does not smoke. For many non-smokers the smell of cigarettes is difficult to tolerate and if you have a breathing condition - asthma, allergies - it can trigger an attack. Virtually all public buildings are smoke-free. This is ATL (finally) acting responsibly and in line with current norms.


:checkmark: The citizens spoke a long time ago, and no truly civilized person wants a burning, toxic paper fire-log dangling from his or her mouth. There is no drunk-room at an airport for those who cannot control their imbibing; no spitting room for anyone who thinks that is a proper public display. There is no reason an airport should cater to any other harmful and dangerous practice.


BuildingMyBento wrote:
BrodieBruce wrote:
The Nanny State claims another victim. That was one of the redeeming qualities about flying through ATL.


Victims are those who have to deal with smokers.


:checkmark: :checkmark: . This. And anyone around them.

BuildingMyBento wrote:
Go move to Tunisia or China.


I have a friend who always says, "There is only one good thing about cigarettes...

...they kill the smokers.."


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Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:15 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
It's 2019 and people still voluntarily smoke?


Exactly. Disgusting habit, which has no place in an airport.
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:16 pm

Redd wrote:
As a former smoker myself, I never understood why people have a hard time going a few hours without smoking. That said, I see nothing wrong with having those smoking rooms at the airports. Although if you have to sit beside a passenger who had just spent some time in one of those rooms, the smell is revolting.

Governments take billions in taxes from smokers each year, in the USA it's over 15 billion USD. The least they can do is put in some proper smoking rooms for smokers.


Perhaps you were not addicted to tobacco to the extent that some proportion of smokers are. It can become one of the prime necessities of life, to be defended with all necessary force, however politically incorrect. I do not think that the public, or the airport management, should encourage such cancer-inducing behavior. We must discourage such addiction in the public sphere.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:16 pm

alfa164 wrote:
BuildingMyBento wrote:
BrodieBruce wrote:
The Nanny State claims another victim. That was one of the redeeming qualities about flying through ATL.


Victims are those who have to deal with smokers.


:checkmark: This. And anyone around them.

BuildingMyBento wrote:
Go move to Tunisia or China.


I have a friend who always says, "There is only one good thing about cigarettes...

...they kill the smokers.."


;)


They also kill non-smokers via passive smoking.
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:14 pm

Francoflier wrote:
Blerg wrote:
If people want to smoke then we should let them smoke, their life, their choices. They can be whoever they want to be.


Sure, as long as they pay for their own medical bill when their habit collects its toll... But that's not the case, now, is it?
Instead, part of my insurance premium goes towards curing people who inflict diseases onto themselves through their lack of self-control.

In light of the above, however, I agree with your second point, as I believe over-eating to be in the same category as smoking.


Not to forget secondhand smoking, over which we have no control. And yes, second hand smoking is still a problem after you leave the smoking cabin. It permeates your clothes and continues to spread carcinogens all day.


Blimpie wrote:
DarthLobster wrote:
joeycapps wrote:
You'll never meet a more rabid crowd than some anti-smokers...


Cancer has that effect.


Yeah, alcoholism too, and Alzheimer's from marijuana, and let's not forget the heart disease from sugar.


I can control those. Your drinking doesn't affect me. Your smoking does.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:38 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
It's 2019 and people still voluntarily smoke?


Have you been to Europe lately? I was surprised. And yes, even in the states while smoking has gone down, its scary how many young people are taking up vaping.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:01 pm

OzarkD9S wrote:
a320fan wrote:

I only see airside smoking areas when passing through Asia and some euro ports. I've never seen them back home in Australia. Smoking is a gross and dirty habit and whilst I support the right for people to smoke, it is a choice and no where should have to cater for the habit.


Having children is also a gross and dirty process, and a choice as well. Should the rest of society cater to other people's need to breed?

Quite the absurd analogy. Children become adults who have the potential to do their part in making this world a better place in which to live. Children do not engage in a habit that emits unwelcomed noxious, harmful fumes that have caused millions of deaths, and are forced upon those in their proximity.

Besides, as said many times before, your right to smoke ends where my nose begins.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:07 pm

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It’s time.

My thoughts too.

Better to put in seats, play areas (kids), a doggie relief station, or retail.

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Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:08 pm

FTMCPIUS wrote:
OzarkD9S wrote:
a320fan wrote:

I only see airside smoking areas when passing through Asia and some euro ports. I've never seen them back home in Australia. Smoking is a gross and dirty habit and whilst I support the right for people to smoke, it is a choice and no where should have to cater for the habit.


Having children is also a gross and dirty process, and a choice as well. Should the rest of society cater to other people's need to breed?

Quite the absurd analogy. Children become adults who have the potential to do their part in making this world a better place in which to live. Children do not engage in a habit that emits unwelcomed noxious, harmful fumes that are forced upon those in their proximity.

Have you ever been close to a child that needs a diaper change???

More seriously, there are praying rooms in airports; I personally don't see a need for them, much less of a need than smoking rooms. So, are they next to be dismantled?
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:31 pm

The Nevada smoking rule is simple. Any place where children are allowed smoking isn’t. LAS has mini casino rooms. No children allowed in them so smoking is allowed. Slot machines are allowed in public places that are not separate rooms like gas stations, stores, airport concourses but since they are not walled off no smoking even though children are not allowed to stand around them. Smoking is legal in hotel rooms but the hotel has the option to make them non smoking. They do that to reduce cleaning costs and make non-smokers (the majority of their customers) happy.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:45 pm

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Like someone mentioned above, these will be most likely replaced by fast food restaurants which will contribute to the diabetes epidemic that's ravaging the US. I mean, according to official statistics, there are more than 100.000.000 people in the US living with diabetes or pre-diabetes.


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Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:22 pm

evank516 wrote:
As a smoker I'm disappointed. This made connecting in ATL a lot less of a headache. I get the reasoning behind it, but I never notice the smell leaking out of the rooms at all. Don't see why they need to get rid of them. People smoke, they're going to keep smoking whether the rooms are there or not, and they're going to clog security. Given the fact that the vast majority of people in ATL are connecting, they're all going to be going in and out of the sterile area, especially when there are delays. Me personally? I have Clear and Pre-Check so I'll most likely be through in 5 mins or less, but not everyone has these perks.

Of course you don't, because you are desensitized to the smell. Just like I don't notice the smell of cow manure
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:32 pm

WayexTDI wrote:
FTMCPIUS wrote:
OzarkD9S wrote:

Having children is also a gross and dirty process, and a choice as well. Should the rest of society cater to other people's need to breed?

Quite the absurd analogy. Children become adults who have the potential to do their part in making this world a better place in which to live. Children do not engage in a habit that emits unwelcomed noxious, harmful fumes that are forced upon those in their proximity.

Have you ever been close to a child that needs a diaper change???

More seriously, there are praying rooms in airports; I personally don't see a need for them, much less of a need than smoking rooms. So, are they next to be dismantled?

A diaper change has never been proven to be linked to lung cancer
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:35 pm

Very happy to see this. As someone who lost a grndparent the smoking-related lung cancer and emphysema, this is a great step.

Look, if someone can't go more than few hours without smoking, then they've got bigger issues. The rest of us don't like sitting next to (and smelling!) people who reek of smoke, and sitting in a designated smoking room will do that to people; they will freaking reek! Also, who has to clean out and maintain these smoking rooms that a few people seem to want? They'll have to come into contact with extra carcinogens and the like, the way that flight attendants had to for years on end in the old days before smoking was banned in the air. And please, don't tell me that the risk is minimal, which really isn't true depending upon an individual's sensitivities.

I truly don't want anyone to be harmed or hurt by smoking. But, if you are going to smoke do so in the privacy of your own home. Don't expect the rest of us (and, society) to cater to your drug addiction.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:13 pm

The result of this policy is likely to be people smoking in stairwells, hidden corners etc.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:15 pm

But why stop there? The Mayor of Atlanta should also ban sugar and bread.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:31 pm

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Besides, as said many times before, your right to smoke ends where my nose begins.


So does my "right" to peace and quiet end where your children begin? It was meant to be an absurd analogy by the way.
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:39 pm

The comparisons that people bring up for counterpoints/comparisons are silly.

My lungs are super uber sensitive to second hand cig smoke. I've sat next to people on flights that made me nauseous, the smell of the smoke can be overwhelming, but the second hand fumes coming off of the clothing usually mean I have to wear a mask.

On a flight, should I have to wear a mask in a sardine can because someone has a right to smoke in a "designated area"? I was just working with a patient where I work, and while he wasn't smoking in front of me, my lungs went crazy because it was obvious he either lives in constant smoke, or was doing so in our parking lot.
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:42 pm

peterinlisbon wrote:
But why stop there? The Mayor of Atlanta should also ban sugar and bread.


Very well thought, intelligent comment. :banghead:
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:47 pm

evank516 wrote:
but I never notice the smell leaking out of the rooms at all. Don't see why they need to get rid of them.


That's what smokers always say. I'm extremely sensitive to cigarette smoke and all its latent aftereffects. I smell those rooms and get nauseous almost instantly. I can detect them from over 100 feet away. The truth is that anytime you smoke, you leave a huge trail of airborne toxins attached to billions of particles of dust (per square meter). Smokers infringe on the rights of everyone else to have clean air. For me, there's a very very real physiological reaction, and I'm an airline pilot.

I can tell when hotels rooms have been smoked in 6 months ago, when hotel shuttles have been smoked in, and I can detect any location that has been "professionally cleaned" with Ozone to *try* to cover up the cigarette stench.

Most smokers would mind if I walked around the airport putting plutonium laden dust into the air. Yet, they see nothing wrong with smoking. The scientific fact is that smoking, including "vaping", has absolutely no biological benefit. It causes a host of ailments on any biological organism, one of which is cancer.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:08 pm

OzarkD9S wrote:
FTMCPIUS wrote:

Besides, as said many times before, your right to smoke ends where my nose begins.


So does my "right" to peace and quiet end where your children begin? It was meant to be an absurd analogy by the way.

Absurd it is. Like it or not, children in general are a necessity -- offensive smokers are not. So, if I fart a lot due to a medical condition it is be OK if I am standing/seated next to you. Actually, a medical condition is not required. My farting could just be a habit in which I choose to indulge myself and if you are forced to smell it (and even inhale the fumes) that's my right -- correct?
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:19 pm

INFINITI329 wrote:
I am no fan of smoking, however the money was already invested in the construction of the rooms so let them be


Cut the smoking rooms, put in cafe or coffee shops & you get revenue for covering operating cost. Smoking lounge = zero revenue, unless they are willing to pay like the airline lounge crowd does.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:19 pm

c933103 wrote:
FlyingElvii wrote:
I get political correctness, but a percentage of travelers are going to smoke. PERIOD.
Designated smoking area outside, BEFORE security.

How is that related to political correctness?

It doesn't. Everyone who disagrees with you is just being too politically correct or is a snowflake. Get with it man, it's 2019
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:27 pm

micstatic wrote:
To me the rooms always did a pretty good job keeping the smoke in. What I didn't care for was having to sit next to somebody on a flight who was obviously just smoking in the room. It's one thing for somebody to have a smoke outside and have a ligth odor to them. But somebody who was smoke soaked is not an ideal seatmate.


THIS!

I wonder if smokers have enough self awareness to understand this but the smoke smell that radiates from smokers when sitting next to them on a plane is disgusting... especially after they have been in a confined space such as a smoking room. A stick of gum or a spritz of some potpourri doesn't change anything, everyone still knows you are a smoker and can smell you coming.

BTW, I also don't appreciate people that don't have good personal hygiene for the same reasons. That is a little hard to regulate but they have been thrown off planes before.

Also, I guarantee you that most "rabid" anti-smokers, like myself, aren't condoning pot smoking everywhere either.

Lastly, this isn't a political correctness issue, it is a public health issue. Airport staff still need to clean and maintain these smoking rooms. They shouldn't be subjected to that.

The best thing that ever happened to smokers was the "liberal" smoking laws over the last couple of decades, even if the laws were actually passed to protect the non-smoker. Ask any former smoker who quit because it became too difficult to keep up their habit, the get it. I guarantee that not one former smoker regrets quitting and many will credit the new laws (and taxes) for pushing them away from the deadly addiction.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:03 pm

VSMUT wrote:
I can control those. Your drinking doesn't affect me. Your smoking does.

Unfortunately, thousands are killed by drunk drivers.
 
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VSMUT wrote:
I can control those. Your drinking doesn't affect me. Your smoking does.

Unfortunately, thousands are killed by drunk drivers.


Drunk driving is already forbidden, in most places punishable by jailtime.
Same should be the case for smokers in my opinion.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:48 pm

evank516 wrote:
As a smoker I'm disappointed. This made connecting in ATL a lot less of a headache. I get the reasoning behind it, but I never notice the smell leaking out of the rooms at all. Don't see why they need to get rid of them. People smoke, they're going to keep smoking whether the rooms are there or not, and they're going to clog security. Given the fact that the vast majority of people in ATL are connecting, they're all going to be going in and out of the sterile area, especially when there are delays. Me personally? I have Clear and Pre-Check so I'll most likely be through in 5 mins or less, but not everyone has these perks.



with all due respect, the amount of people smoking in the US has plummeted (barring the recent troubling rise of vaping). people aren't gonna keep smoking.
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:50 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
Those smoking rooms were disgusting

Although I do find the hypocrisy funny:

Liberal politicians are SO anti smoking and SO pro pot legalization.


I don't think youll find many people advocating for being able to smoke pot out in the open a la Amsterdam.
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:51 pm

Blimpie wrote:
DarthLobster wrote:

Cancer has that effect.


Yeah, alcoholism too, and Alzheimer's from marijuana, and let's not forget the heart disease from sugar.



the difference is I won't get diabetes from sitting next to a guy drinking a coke.
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:55 pm

par13del wrote:
VSMUT wrote:
I can control those. Your drinking doesn't affect me. Your smoking does.

Unfortunately, thousands are killed by drunk drivers.


Not inside the airport. They can only fix what happens there.
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:01 pm

EvanWSFO wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
Those smoking rooms were disgusting

Although I do find the hypocrisy funny:

Liberal politicians are SO anti smoking and SO pro pot legalization.


Speaking as a liberal, there is a big difference. There are no conclusive studies that pot use leads to the amount of cancer victims as cigarette smoking. As a passenger, I detest sitting next to someone who has been holed up in airport smoking room. I have to deal with the stench of their bad habits and bad decisions.

I hate sitting next to sweaty fat slobs having to deal with the stench of their bad habits and bad decisions. Their decisions are every bit as costly to society, but they are not pariahs to the overreach of our government overlords. When I see regulatory consistency applied to all, and not just the easy targets by a government addicted to the taxes on their addiction, I will have a little more respect.

From a never-smoker.

PS: The jury is out on weed. I am not as sanguine as the millennial generation as to its harmlessness to society. In that sweet smoke, I smell another cash grab.
 
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WayexTDI wrote:
FTMCPIUS wrote:
Quite the absurd analogy. Children become adults who have the potential to do their part in making this world a better place in which to live. Children do not engage in a habit that emits unwelcomed noxious, harmful fumes that are forced upon those in their proximity.

Have you ever been close to a child that needs a diaper change???

More seriously, there are praying rooms in airports; I personally don't see a need for them, much less of a need than smoking rooms. So, are they next to be dismantled?

A diaper change has never been proven to be linked to lung cancer

But it has been proven to be linked to "unwelcomed noxious, harmful fumes that are forced upon those in their proximity".

Comparing smoking to children poop is stupid, I get it; but the argument of the pro smoking rooms ban are pretty much baseless too.
 
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Re: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL

Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:10 pm

Bricktop wrote:
EvanWSFO wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
Those smoking rooms were disgusting

Although I do find the hypocrisy funny:

Liberal politicians are SO anti smoking and SO pro pot legalization.


Speaking as a liberal, there is a big difference. There are no conclusive studies that pot use leads to the amount of cancer victims as cigarette smoking. As a passenger, I detest sitting next to someone who has been holed up in airport smoking room. I have to deal with the stench of their bad habits and bad decisions.

I hate sitting next to sweaty fat slobs having to deal with the stench of their bad habits and bad decisions. Their decisions are every bit as costly to society, but they are not pariahs to the overreach of our government overlords. When I see regulatory consistency applied to all, and not just the easy targets by a government addicted to the taxes on their addiction, I will have a little more respect.

From a never-smoker.

PS: The jury is out on weed. I am not as sanguine as the millennial generation as to its harmlessness to society. In that sweet smoke, I smell another cash grab.


Cannabis is well known to have medicinal value. Tobacco products do not, they just cause health problems to smokers and those around them. It's not that difficult to understand.
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Re: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL

Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:19 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
It's 2019 and people still voluntarily smoke?


:checkmark:

I ask the same question when I see anyone under the age of 50 smoking.
 
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Re: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL

Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:39 pm

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Re: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL

Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:47 pm

usxguy wrote:
Im not a smoker, but this is a shame. The smoking lounges were a good escape for many.

Smoking helps calm nerves and whatnot and the rooms didn't seem to cause others any problems....


Then, how did us non-smokers learn to have calm nerves?

GF
 
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Re: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL

Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:48 pm

EvanWSFO wrote:
Bricktop wrote:
EvanWSFO wrote:

Speaking as a liberal, there is a big difference. There are no conclusive studies that pot use leads to the amount of cancer victims as cigarette smoking. As a passenger, I detest sitting next to someone who has been holed up in airport smoking room. I have to deal with the stench of their bad habits and bad decisions.

I hate sitting next to sweaty fat slobs having to deal with the stench of their bad habits and bad decisions. Their decisions are every bit as costly to society, but they are not pariahs to the overreach of our government overlords. When I see regulatory consistency applied to all, and not just the easy targets by a government addicted to the taxes on their addiction, I will have a little more respect.

From a never-smoker.

PS: The jury is out on weed. I am not as sanguine as the millennial generation as to its harmlessness to society. In that sweet smoke, I smell another cash grab.


Cannabis is well known to have medicinal value. Tobacco products do not, they just cause health problems to smokers and those around them. It's not that difficult to understand.


Cannabis is just another crutch!

GF
 
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Re: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL

Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:29 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
EvanWSFO wrote:
Bricktop wrote:
I hate sitting next to sweaty fat slobs having to deal with the stench of their bad habits and bad decisions. Their decisions are every bit as costly to society, but they are not pariahs to the overreach of our government overlords. When I see regulatory consistency applied to all, and not just the easy targets by a government addicted to the taxes on their addiction, I will have a little more respect.

From a never-smoker.

PS: The jury is out on weed. I am not as sanguine as the millennial generation as to its harmlessness to society. In that sweet smoke, I smell another cash grab.


Cannabis is well known to have medicinal value. Tobacco products do not, they just cause health problems to smokers and those around them. It's not that difficult to understand.


Cannabis is just another crutch!

GF


Ummm....no. For people with cancer, it makes life bearable. Trust me, I know.
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Re: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL

Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:43 pm

Surprised this is even a post. No smoking indoors in public buildings is already a thing of the past....
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