SeanM1997
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Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:05 am

Wizz Air have put on sale daily flights between:
London Luton (LTN) and Moscow Vnukovo (VNO)
London Luton (LTN) and St Petersburg (LED)
Flights begin on 1 October 2019 for both routes (return LED-LTN is from 2 October 2019)

These are the first Wizz Air routes to Russia from outside of Hungary, and are operated by Wizz Air UK. Tickets are available to book now at: https://wizzair.com/#/

These timetables have been taken from @SeanM1997 on Twitter:

LTN-VKO
0650-1235 (Mon & Wed)
0655-1235 (Sun)
0730-1315 (Fri)
1525-2100 (Tue, Thu & Sat)

VKO-LTN
1525-1725 (Mon & Wed)
1525-1730 (Sun)
1605-1805 (Fri)
2140-2325 (Tue, Thu & Sat)


LTN 2240-0405+1 LED (Daily)

LED 0540-0715 LTN (Daily)
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:11 am

Whoa, Wizz is certainly bringing a fresh breath of air to LON-MOW/LED connectivity.

Congratulations to W6, LTN and VKO, LED :champagne:
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:12 am

Wizzair is so based. They are my favorite ULCC. Best of luck with these routes.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:28 am

Ground stop at VKO and LED are quite long for an LCC... few available departure slots?

Good on Wizz to try Russia. Will they use the 239-seat A321NEO?
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:39 am

CRJ900 wrote:
Ground stop at VKO and LED are quite long for an LCC... few available departure slots?

Good on Wizz to try Russia. Will they use the 239-seat A321NEO?


Its both to do with slots, and available stands at Luton. They need to wait for aircraft to go in early morning to allow LED to land. For Moscow, its to do with slots available at Vnukovo. These are only the timings for October 2019, they do change for Winter 2019/20 timetable
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:54 am

Coincides with BA pulling LHR-LED/KBP in early October.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:16 am

LED is on my bucket list, but those timings are a stinker !
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:48 am

Nice expansion, interesting as it is under UK AOC, which means this flight is a non EU flight in the future.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:59 am

Relations between the UK and Russia are not good at the moment - and this will likely affect demand. Why is Wizz going to succeed when Easyjet failed on UK-Moscow a few years ago ?
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:37 pm

davidjohnson6 wrote:
Relations between the UK and Russia are not good at the moment - and this will likely affect demand. Why is Wizz going to succeed when Easyjet failed on UK-Moscow a few years ago ?


It's fine - this time WizzAir will be offering a direct shuttle bus for passengers to connect on to Salisbury.
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:12 pm

GBNWB wrote:
Coincides with BA pulling LHR-LED/KBP in early October.


Also Pobeda briefly operated LED-STN this winter, so it was down from 3 carriers (BA, Rossiya, Pobeda) to one (Rossiya flying LED-LGW).

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/aero ... -stansted/
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:12 pm

PlymSpotter wrote:
It's fine - this time WizzAir will be offering a direct shuttle bus for passengers to connect on to Salisbury.


Not Salisbury, but Victoria Station. Bus is operated by P-airbus.com. Of course it's not free, but it is the cheapest way to get into London from Luton airport. Wizzair sells tickets for this bus service along with it's flights to/from Luton, but you can also book it separately. It's not exclusive to Wizzair passengers.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:13 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
PlymSpotter wrote:
It's fine - this time WizzAir will be offering a direct shuttle bus for passengers to connect on to Salisbury.


Not Salisbury, but Victoria Station. Bus is operated by P-airbus.com. Of course it's not free, but it is the cheapest way to get into London from Luton airport. Wizzair sells tickets for this bus service along with it's flights to/from Luton, but you can also book it separately. It's not exclusive to Wizzair passengers.


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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:19 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
PatrickZ80 wrote:
PlymSpotter wrote:
It's fine - this time WizzAir will be offering a direct shuttle bus for passengers to connect on to Salisbury.


Not Salisbury, but Victoria Station. Bus is operated by P-airbus.com. Of course it's not free, but it is the cheapest way to get into London from Luton airport. Wizzair sells tickets for this bus service along with it's flights to/from Luton, but you can also book it separately. It's not exclusive to Wizzair passengers.


I think irony is not your thing :)


It's called sarcasm, not irony.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:21 pm

SeanM1997 wrote:
These are the first Wizz Air routes to Russia from outside of Hungary, and are operated by Wizz Air UK.


Which is logical as the Russian aviation law only allows foreign airlines to operate flights into Russia from the country in which they have an AOC. Wizzair has a Hungarian AOC, so they're only allowed to fly into Russia from Hungary. But since they also have a British AOC and on that AOC they're allowed flights into Russia from the UK. They wouldn't be allowed to fly into Russia from another country.

Ryanair once investigated the possibility of flying into Russia, but being Irish they would only be allowed to serve Russia from Ireland. That market was too small for them. However nowadays they also have a Polish AOC (Ryanair Sun) and on that AOC they would be allowed to fly to Russia from Poland. Additionally, Lauda would be allowed to fly to Russia from Austria.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:27 pm

davidjohnson6 wrote:
Relations between the UK and Russia are not good at the moment - and this will likely affect demand. Why is Wizz going to succeed when Easyjet failed on UK-Moscow a few years ago ?


Maybe they are trying to get the London-based city-breaker. Even reading the description in their FB is quite telling:

We are proud to announce the launch of two new Wizz Air UK services from our London Luton base to Moscow’s Vnukovo International Airport, and Pulkovo Airport in St Petersburg.

From the 1st of October, our British passengers can travel daily to two of Russia’s greatest cities with our ultra-low fares and enjoying Europe’s youngest and greenest aircraft.


We all know though the issue with Russia is the visa process, and this hasn't changed. Otherwise with those fares Moscow or St Petersburg would be on top of the city-break list from Western Europe.

easyJet seemed to try to target equally the Russian PAX. Now with the devaluation of the ruble, Russia is much cheaper for the foreign tourist than in 2013 when U2 flew there. So who knows? Everybody in London has visited every other capital in Europe by now. Maybe with affordable fares, W6 is able to push more people in London to apply for a tourist visa.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:11 pm

PlymSpotter wrote:
davidjohnson6 wrote:
Relations between the UK and Russia are not good at the moment - and this will likely affect demand. Why is Wizz going to succeed when Easyjet failed on UK-Moscow a few years ago ?


It's fine - this time WizzAir will be offering a direct shuttle bus for passengers to connect on to Salisbury.


That's a good idea. Apparently, that place is very popular with Russian tourists. They should also serve sushi on board.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:15 pm

If Wizz is aiming at tourists, then it seems a little surprising they are starting almost at the start of the winter season, perhaps this so that no one else took the opportunity?
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:22 pm

Is there a large Russian community in the London area? W6 seem to target this VFR traffic.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:42 pm

There is a very large Russian community in London. However, the very wealthy might not want to fly Wizzair. Areas that have a large wealthy Russian community are very close to Heathrow. Secondly a significant proportion of Russians in London need a visa for Russia! What I mean by this is that many Russians in the UK are from Latvia/Estonia and Lithuania and these people need a visa like other Eu nationals despite being Russian by ethnicity.
Despite this, I think the flights will do OK, but i's be surprised if they're at the top of the list for profitability.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:47 pm

If I remember rightly the Uk and Russian authorities both nominate up to two carriers each to fly between London and Moscow/Leningrad the ‘winners’ previously being BA and EasyJet.

I haven’t been able to find any announcements where the UK has awarded the rights vacated by EasyJet to WizzAir.

Has anyone else been able to track down any such announcements or could it be that the Wizzair announcement has been made in anticipation of Uk authority approval, and so may not yet be a done deal?
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:25 pm

Russia’s introducing visa free travel for most EU countries 2020/2021 ( not for Brits obviously ) but there’s enough EU/ Russians in London to make these flights a great success

Personally I think the LED flights times are perfect ... avoids wasting a day travelling when it’s better done at night.

Any sign of Pobeda coming back to London ? Their airfares were fantastic
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:18 pm

jumpjets wrote:
If I remember rightly the Uk and Russian authorities both nominate up to two carriers each to fly between London and Moscow/Leningrad the ‘winners’ previously being BA and EasyJet.

I haven’t been able to find any announcements where the UK has awarded the rights vacated by EasyJet to WizzAir.

Has anyone else been able to track down any such announcements or could it be that the Wizzair announcement has been made in anticipation of Uk authority approval, and so may not yet be a done deal?


I thought that U2 actually got UN (Transaero) to do the flights? Wiki shows that this was easyJet only codeshare.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:51 pm

Galwayman wrote:
Russia’s introducing visa free travel for most EU countries 2020/2021 ( not for Brits obviously ) but there’s enough EU/ Russians in London to make these flights a great success


I do not see Russians just allowing visa free entry from EU unless it’s reciprocal. There aren’t any talks in progress between EU and Russia on such a thing. But Russians are preparing a simplified visa application process - perhaps this is what is meant here?
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:53 pm

MCTSET wrote:
Is there a large Russian community in the London area? W6 seem to target this VFR traffic.


Yes, there is. Who bought up a good chunk of the luxury properties in London? They aren’t though exactly clients of any airline flying to Russia, especially a low cost. For too many of them, a trip to Russia is a one way ticket.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:56 pm

Galwayman wrote:
Personally I think the LED flights times are perfect ... avoids wasting a day travelling when it’s better done at night.


To each his own. Flying half night in a Wizzair plane to arrive at 4 AM and then head to a hotel (?) or starting touring the city seems like the perfect idea of hell. Back from LED a depart at 5:40 AM means you cannot sleep (or barely at all). In winter with cold it certainly must be pure hell. Maybe at this of this point of summer it will bearable for the leisure traveller (that can sleep or take the day off after coming back from Russia) with the mild weather and white nights in LED.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:15 pm

anrec80 wrote:
I do not see Russians just allowing visa free entry from EU unless it’s reciprocal. There aren’t any talks in progress between EU and Russia on such a thing. But Russians are preparing a simplified visa application process - perhaps this is what is meant here?


Putin has signed a decree to establish e-visas for visitors from EU countries. This should go into effect Jan 1st, 2021 (if everything goes as planned). Something along the lines of a simple online application, and if memory serves me right, a maximum stay of 18 days in Russia. For a cost of approx. 50 EUR.

SCQ83 wrote:
To each his own. Flying half night in a Wizzair plane to arrive at 4 AM and then head to a hotel (?) or starting touring the city seems like the perfect idea of hell.


While not the most desirable, it's doable. Just flew a similar route with Wizz, left Memmingen at 10pm, arrived in Kutaisi, Georgia at 4am. Hotel, checked-in, sleeping by 6am. Up and ready for some touring by noon. Not your 8 hours of beauty sleep, but was perfectly fine. All for a 30 EUR flight? Perfectly satisfied.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:56 pm

Aeroflot777 wrote:
Putin has signed a decree to establish e-visas for visitors from EU countries. This should go into effect Jan 1st, 2021 (if everything goes as planned). Something along the lines of a simple online application, and if memory serves me right, a maximum stay of 18 days in Russia. For a cost of approx. 50 EUR.


I see what you mean - and well, e-visa isn’t exactly visa free entry. They still require an application and certain background check. And may deny. But I certainly like this idea.
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:16 am

E-visa will be a game changer , the market for flights to Russia will boom ( during the summer ) and make it more attractive for lcc carriers to enter the market ...pobeda has a LED base offering lots of cheap self connects ... Russia’s hosting of the World Cup was so successful lots of people I know are interested in visiting once the visa application nonsense goes away
 
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Re: Wizz Air Starts London Luton - Russia

Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:18 am

Aeroflot777 wrote:
While not the most desirable, it's doable. Just flew a similar route with Wizz, left Memmingen at 10pm, arrived in Kutaisi, Georgia at 4am. Hotel, checked-in, sleeping by 6am. Up and ready for some touring by noon. Not your 8 hours of beauty sleep, but was perfectly fine. All for a 30 EUR flight? Perfectly satisfied.


Anything is doable, but it doesn't mean it is the most confortable thing. IMO the best schedule for UK-based tourists is this on LTN-VKO.

LTN-VKO 0730-1315
VKO-LTN 2140-2325

Depending on where you live in London you can have some sleep the night before, you don't need to spend another night of hotel in Moscow. The return flight is timed perfectly (considering the time difference); you spend the whole day in Moscow and arrive in London to sleep.

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