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EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:02 pm
by wingflex744
Source in Italian only:
https://italiavola.com/2019/07/12/eva-a ... raio-2020/

From 19 Feb 2020 EVA Air will start a 4 weekly nonstop flights to Milan MXP on 777-300ER.
Nice European addition and good to see them expanding!

Re: EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:04 pm
by x1234
They should have went for ZRH instead but I will take MXP (centre of Italian fashion/industry and always has business with Asian manufacturers).

EVA Air launch Milan

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:05 pm
by mercure1
Effective 18 Feb 2020.

BR71 TPE-MXP 2340-0630+1 77W MoTuThSa
BR72 MXP-TPE 1100-0630+1 77W TuWeFrSu

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -feb-2020/

MIlan becomes BR's 5th destination in Europe

Re: EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:23 pm
by frank1991
This is exciting I hope they will launch more long-haul destinations. They are one of my favourite carrier and I think they are underrated.

Re: EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:07 pm
by terrificturk
You cannot go wrong much in the Alpine Region... be that Zurich, Munich, Milan... al good and affluent destinations that combine business with leisure.
The strongest out of these three is perhaps Munich, but ok Milan is fine...

Re: EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:23 pm
by cedarjet
frank1991 wrote:
This is exciting I hope they will launch more long-haul destinations. They are one of my favourite carrier and I think they are underrated.

Yes definitely a hidden gem

Re: EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:25 pm
by behramjee
This route is more suited for a B789 initially considering that annual p2p demand is only 34,000 pax round trip.

Re: EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:20 pm
by Delta28L
behramjee wrote:
This route is more suited for a B789 initially considering that annual p2p demand is only 34,000 pax round trip.


They don’t have enough slack in the 787 fleet to make this route happen. Probably going to be carrying a lot of cargo on the 777 since MXP is a big cargo station in Europe.

Re: EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:41 pm
by SQ22
terrificturk wrote:
You cannot go wrong much in the Alpine Region... be that Zurich, Munich, Milan... al good and affluent destinations that combine business with leisure.
The strongest out of these three is perhaps Munich, but ok Milan is fine...


Maybe that is the reason for MXP, because as far as I am aware the air transport agreement between Taiwan and Germany has not been updated yet and this would be a requirement for BR being able to fly into MUC.

Re: EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:12 pm
by cat3appr50
The est. route LIMC TO RCTP (assuming 7/15/19) would be around 5700 NM. Based on a B777 300ER estimated 350 3 Class Pssgrs. and B787 900 estimated 270 3 Class Pssgrs. with cargo loading to approach max. takeoff wt., and typical contingency and final reserves fuel, total flight time would be around 11 hrs.- 20-30 min. (with avg. W/C P022). The B787 900 would fly at a higher avg. Mach (Est. .850) than the B777 300ER (est. .835-.840), so would have a lower total flight time. The B787 900 on this route would be significantly more fuel efficient and require significantly less total block fuel and trip fuel, but of course would be carrying much fewer 3 class total passengers than the B777 300ER, as noted.

Looks like the B777 300ER aircraft selection was made based on more ticket revenue via more total passengers/flight and more revenue with maximizing cargo loading (it fits for LIMC) vs. the lower fuel costs of a B787 900 and it's lower flight time.

Re: EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:55 am
by frank1991
I think EVA don't have enough 789 to do this trip. They will be flying YVR and VIE and that already got their 789s busy. Unfortunately this cannot be flown with 78X given that EVA will have 20 of them coming in the next 3 years..

MUC should probably be next for EVA... according to some news source. but ask SQ22 pointed out, the traffic right is an issue as of now..

Re: EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:12 am
by terrificturk
SQ22 wrote:
terrificturk wrote:
You cannot go wrong much in the Alpine Region... be that Zurich, Munich, Milan... al good and affluent destinations that combine business with leisure.
The strongest out of these three is perhaps Munich, but ok Milan is fine...


Maybe that is the reason for MXP, because as far as I am aware the air transport agreement between Taiwan and Germany has not been updated yet and this would be a requirement for BR being able to fly into MUC.


it is overdue for a major revamp... but Angie and her folks were probably too heavy on the China side to touch this yet.

Re: EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:02 am
by OA940
I'm surprised they didn't go with ZRH, but MXP is also logical for them. However I'll admit I'm surprised they went 77W on it and not 789.

Re: EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:46 pm
by wingflex744
I am curious to know why they do not fly to SYD or MEL and only to BNE...anyone has any insight?

Re: EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:44 pm
by zkncj
wingflex744 wrote:
I am curious to know why they do not fly to SYD or MEL and only to BNE...anyone has any insight?


Queensland probably is more focused towards the market from TPE e.g. Beaches, Great Barrier Reef etc. Queensland is typically pretty strong with the Asian market.


So does this new route give away when they they are planning to get back the dry leases 77W that NZ has had for the past year from them.

Re: EVA Air to launch TPE-MXP on 77W

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:12 am
by frank1991
also there is a much larger Taiwanese community in Brisbane compared to Melbourne or Sydney. Hence a higher O&D.