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Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:24 am

According to sources from Buenos Aires, this coming Monday's CCS-EZE-CCS will be operated by Hi Fly Malta's only A380, 9H-MIP.

https://twitter.com/ArgSpotters/status/ ... 3805392896

https://twitter.com/RaMurias28/status/1 ... 7749851137

Hi Fly operates the CCS-EZE route twice a week using either A340s or A330s. It will also operate on the CCS-MAD route.
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:40 am

Is CCS even capable of operating or managing the A380? Those flights must be leaving packed from CCS but going back empty I suppose.
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:56 am

mugler wrote:
Is CCS even capable of operating or managing the A380? Those flights must be leaving packed from CCS but going back empty I suppose.


Wondering the same. EZE has one gate (#11, IIRC) that can handle the A380, from a clearance perspective, with two jetways. albeit both on the main deck.
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:29 am

What madness is this? , I doubt very much that CCS will hold an A380, the track is very deteriorated and they are just doing some repairs
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:03 am

RainerBoeing777 wrote:
What madness is this? , I doubt very much that CCS will hold an A380, the track is very deteriorated and they are just doing some repairs

The pavement loading of the A380 is actually not that high. It's only the total weight that can be critical, e. g. for bridges.
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:10 am

Acording to flightradar24 It's just left Gatwick on route to Madrid as D18991/NRSB991
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:36 pm

There is a thread all about this A380 already active with routes etc
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:20 pm

Bealine251 wrote:
Acording to flightradar24 It's just left Gatwick on route to Madrid as D18991/NRSB991


And from the same source, it left MAD en route to CCS, flt ES#894.
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:42 pm

Guys, don't read too much into it, ESTELAR has two Airbus340s leased fom Hi-Fly, one of them needs some maintenance work this week and Hi Fly has to replace it with something similar or better. The Airbus 380 was probably sitting idle on the tarmac so it was chosen to fill in.

Nothing to do with market conditions in Venezuela.

It is, however, a once in a lifetime chance to see it in CCS, and at times that are not too bad for spotting.
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:15 pm

The airplane just departed MAD heading CCS: https://fr24.com/ETR894/2148351c

Is CCS ready to receive an A380? Really?
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:01 pm

Just saw a video online of the passengers boarding regular stairs from the tarmac onto the first floor, so expect the boarding/deboarding procedure in CCS
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:09 pm

Apparently the A380 operation in CCS is subject to some restrictions:

https://twitter.com/Enrique77W/status/1 ... 7698429958

Restrictions that may not be written in stone after all, as the aircraft is scheduled to land at CCS after sunset.
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:13 pm

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Just saw a video online of the passengers boarding regular stairs from the tarmac onto the first floor, so expect the boarding/deboarding procedure in CCS


There is no problem with that. I never get this obsession in Airliners.net with the A380 and jet-bridges. Emirates has been operating Jeddah with the A380 for +10 years now (at this time multiple daily) and there are no jet-bridges at JED (until the new terminal is open).

dcajet wrote:
Apparently the A380 operation in CCS is subject to some restrictions:

https://twitter.com/Enrique77W/status/1 ... 7698429958.


So will they also carry paying passengers CCS-MAD-CCS? This would be the first ever scheduled flight on A380 from Madrid to Latin America :shock:
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:35 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
Venezuela747 wrote:
Just saw a video online of the passengers boarding regular stairs from the tarmac onto the first floor, so expect the boarding/deboarding procedure in CCS


There is no problem with that. I never get this obsession in Airliners.net with the A380 and jet-bridges. Emirates has been operating Jeddah with the A380 for +10 years now (at this time multiple daily) and there are no jet-bridges at JED (until the new terminal is open).

dcajet wrote:
Apparently the A380 operation in CCS is subject to some restrictions:

https://twitter.com/Enrique77W/status/1 ... 7698429958.


So will they also carry paying passengers CCS-MAD-CCS? This would be the first ever scheduled flight on A380 from Madrid to Latin America :shock:


Who knew the honor would fall to a Venezuelan airline? It appears that (at least) one of the two A340s that Estelar usually wet leases from Hi Fly is out for maintenance for the next week or so, so this is the next best thing available, and it is planned to cover the EZE, FCO & MAD services from CCS for 2 weeks. Only the main deck will be used to carry passengers and there are some weight restrictions out of CCS.

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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:18 pm

Due to the late arrival of the plane from Europe and a restriction with A380 night ops in CCS, the flights are being rescheduled to day time operations only, as per the schedule on this link:

https://twitter.com/Isaiasmajul/status/ ... 2614596608
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:33 pm

dcajet wrote:
Due to the late arrival of the plane from Europe and a restriction with A380 night ops in CCS, the flights are being rescheduled to day time operations only, as per the schedule on this link:

https://twitter.com/Isaiasmajul/status/ ... 2614596608


So is it actually going to land at CCS tonight? Could we see the whale at AUA until morning?
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:50 pm

Gazdon121 wrote:
There is a thread all about this A380 already active with routes etc




GAZDON121 You are absolutely right,

Check this out guys, viewtopic.php?p=21509471#p21509471
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:06 pm

Is this the first time an A380 is used in EZE on a anyhing that is not a promotional flight by Airbus? I don't remember even EK using it as a replacement aircraft.
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:50 am

Not as romantic as when Concorde visited CCS, but still will be a sight to see. Hopefully someone is able to get some pictures. My father in law is from Venezuela and still travels there for work. He was there a couple of weeks ago and said the road between CCS and Caracas proper was basically lawless at night, so I guess the A380 only operating during daylight is good for spotters.
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:02 am

bmartino99 wrote:
Not as romantic as when Concorde visited CCS, but still will be a sight to see. Hopefully someone is able to get some pictures. My father in law is from Venezuela and still travels there for work. He was there a couple of weeks ago and said the road between CCS and Caracas proper was basically lawless at night, so I guess the A380 only operating during daylight is good for spotters.

Concorde didn't just visit CCS, but it was served from CDG for years. And your father-in-law is absolutely correct, of course. That highway is dangerous at any hour of day, but a definite no-no at night.
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:05 am

bmartino99 wrote:
Not as romantic as when Concorde visited CCS, but still will be a sight to see. Hopefully someone is able to get some pictures. My father in law is from Venezuela and still travels there for work. He was there a couple of weeks ago and said the road between CCS and Caracas proper was basically lawless at night, so I guess the A380 only operating during daylight is good for spotters.


Landing at CCS at dusk:

https://twitter.com/RainerNievesD/statu ... 0769581058
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:25 am

dcajet wrote:
Only the main deck will be used to carry passengers and there are some weight restrictions out of CCS.



Curious to know the reason of weight restrictions with CCS being at sea level, runway length?
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:32 am

upperdeckfan wrote:
dcajet wrote:
Only the main deck will be used to carry passengers and there are some weight restrictions out of CCS.



Curious to know the reason of weight restrictions with CCS being at sea level, runway length?

Runway width and condition? Because of the former, and also debris beyond runway edge, limited / no use of reverse thrust?
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:29 pm

upperdeckfan wrote:
dcajet wrote:
Only the main deck will be used to carry passengers and there are some weight restrictions out of CCS.



Curious to know the reason of weight restrictions with CCS being at sea level, runway length?


I believe it has to do with the rather sorry state of CCS runways and taxiways.

When AV and AR cancelled their services to CCS, both airlines mentioned that in addition to the lack of security, the airport's installations were no longer deemed safe in some cases. AR specifically mentioned contaminated fuel delivered thru the airport pipes.
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:35 am

dcajet wrote:
upperdeckfan wrote:
dcajet wrote:
Only the main deck will be used to carry passengers and there are some weight restrictions out of CCS.



Curious to know the reason of weight restrictions with CCS being at sea level, runway length?


I believe it has to do with the rather sorry state of CCS runways and taxiways.

When AV and AR cancelled their services to CCS, both airlines mentioned that in addition to the lack of security, the airport's installations were no longer deemed safe in some cases. AR specifically mentioned contaminated fuel delivered thru the airport pipes.



I wonder why FAA and/or EASA have not banned CCS
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:52 am

Interesting sub for the A340, how does capacity compare between the 2? Does the A380 lower deck seat more or less than the A340?

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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:00 am

dcajet wrote:
upperdeckfan wrote:
dcajet wrote:
Only the main deck will be used to carry passengers and there are some weight restrictions out of CCS.



Curious to know the reason of weight restrictions with CCS being at sea level, runway length?


I believe it has to do with the rather sorry state of CCS runways and taxiways.

When AV and AR cancelled their services to CCS, both airlines mentioned that in addition to the lack of security, the airport's installations were no longer deemed safe in some cases. AR specifically mentioned contaminated fuel delivered thru the airport pipes.

Or perhaps simply to avoid cleaning and serving the upper deck? If this is a simple sub for the A340, the booked passengers can easily be accomodated on the main deck.
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:48 pm

upperdeckfan wrote:
dcajet wrote:
upperdeckfan wrote:

Curious to know the reason of weight restrictions with CCS being at sea level, runway length?


I believe it has to do with the rather sorry state of CCS runways and taxiways.

When AV and AR cancelled their services to CCS, both airlines mentioned that in addition to the lack of security, the airport's installations were no longer deemed safe in some cases. AR specifically mentioned contaminated fuel delivered thru the airport pipes.



I wonder why FAA and/or EASA have not banned CCS



All direct flights between the USA and Venezuela were suspended in May. Also all US operators are prohibited from flying below 26,000 ft in Venezuelan airspace as of April. The last time my father in law departed Venezuela, he said there was no power at CCS and they just boarded planes without scanning carry on bags or X-Raying passengers.
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:15 pm

Looks like the A380 still on CCS tarmac
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:30 pm

Something has not gone according to plan as the CCS-EZE-CCS rotation that was going to operate tomorrow has been cancelled. In its place, the EZE arrivals for today (Tuesday) shows a 737-300 arriving at 20:55. Routing is CCS-VVI-EZE.

Looks like the A380 still on CCS tarmac


9H-MIP is returning from MAD right now.

https://www.flightradar24.com/ETR894/214e88b3
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:48 pm

dcajet wrote:
Something has not gone according to plan as the CCS-EZE-CCS rotation that was going to operate tomorrow has been cancelled. In its place, the EZE arrivals for today (Tuesday) shows a 737-300 arriving at 20:55. Routing is CCS-VVI-EZE.

Looks like the A380 still on CCS tarmac


9H-MIP is returning from MAD right now.

https://www.flightradar24.com/ETR894/214e88b3


Actually I was wondering the same, the A380 has been parked at CCS since its arriving. I thought that it would fly to EZE today, but it does not seem so.

On the other fact, on a Venezuelan newspaper, I noticed that the MAD-CCS flight only moved 73 passengers. My question is, why on hell would you use a 500 seats airplane to move just 73?. It wouldn't be heavily convenient just to cancel flights for the 15 days of a340 maintenance?

Here's the link below
http://www.bancaynegocios.com/el-avion- ... pasajeros/
 
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:23 am

Gbass21 wrote:
dcajet wrote:
Something has not gone according to plan as the CCS-EZE-CCS rotation that was going to operate tomorrow has been cancelled. In its place, the EZE arrivals for today (Tuesday) shows a 737-300 arriving at 20:55. Routing is CCS-VVI-EZE.

Looks like the A380 still on CCS tarmac


9H-MIP is returning from MAD right now.

https://www.flightradar24.com/ETR894/214e88b3


Actually I was wondering the same, the A380 has been parked at CCS since its arriving. I thought that it would fly to EZE today, but it does not seem so.

On the other fact, on a Venezuelan newspaper, I noticed that the MAD-CCS flight only moved 73 passengers. My question is, why on hell would you use a 500 seats airplane to move just 73?. It wouldn't be heavily convenient just to cancel flights for the 15 days of a340 maintenance?

Here's the link below
http://www.bancaynegocios.com/el-avion- ... pasajeros/


The CCS-EZE-CCS was supposed to be tomorrow, Wednesday, but it has been cancelled. In its place, a 737-300 should be on its way now.

Now the # of paxs from Madrid to Caracas seems about right. Who wants to travel to Venezuela these days unless they absolutely have to? It would be nice to see the outbound loads. I am sure they tell a different story.
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:23 pm

With a week's delay, Estelar is sending the A380 to EZE - here's the schedule, per the airline.

https://twitter.com/PabloK75/status/1152652103485202432
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:06 am

With a 24 hr delay, from the above schedule, on its way to EZE with 318 paxs on board. ETA: 00:46 LT (GMT-3).
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Re: Estelar + Hi Fly: A380 on CCS-EZE route?

Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:37 pm

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