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OAG Changes 7/14/2019:AA Extends JFK Cuts,Adds DFW-GYE/UIO;FI Makes PHL Seasonal;EK Reduces EWR

Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:05 pm

FAQ

AS OF JULY 2018 THERE ARE CHANGES TO THE FORMAT OF THIS REPORT...SEE BELOW

WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares departures for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...prior year departures are now shown in brackets e.g. [0].

THE SCHEDULES SHOWN HERE CHANGE AFTER YOU POST???
-To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often---Winston Churchill. This is data the carriers filed at the point in time it was captured. It's changed since then. You are just going to have to live with it.

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5[4] JAN 4>5[4]
XXX Departure IATA code, YYY Arrival IATA code, Month, Average Departures/Day over the month for sale as of last week, Average Departures/Day over the month for sale as of this week, in brackets is the number of Average Departures/Day over the month that were scheduled one year earlier. So, it means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. It also means that there were 4 roundtrips the prior year in each month. No other months were changed. I average two directions.

WHAT ABOUT CARRIERS THAT DON'T PUBLISH A SCHEDULE 9 MONTHS IN ADVANCE?
NEW CHANGE-Sometimes airlines do not load their schedules for the entire 330 day standard sales window. Southwest and many LCCs load their schedules for as little as 5 months into the future. When these flight are extended into a new sales month, it becomes a "schedule change". Previously, I have manually deleted these in many cases and replaced them with a Year-Over-Year compare. Effective immediately, this will now change. When a flight is loaded from 0 departures X departures, where X was the same the prior year, the record will not be shown. For example, if Delta loaded ATL-EGE MAR 0>1(1), it would not be shown because this additional flight does not represent a real year-over-year addition. Similarly, if B6 extended their schedule a record like this ATL-BOS JUL 0>4(4) would not be shown. It will be shown if the flight frequency changed from the prior year. So B6 ATL-BOS JUL 0>3(4) would be shown. If a partial month was loaded in a core schedule that became a full schedule month, those changes may be shown under this logic. For example, WN BNA-SEA 0.3>2(2). Because only a fraction of the month was previously loaded for sale, these changes will not be filtered out. I may, however, manually remove them to declutter.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month. The following criteria are used to show a change: 1) The change must be at least 6 roundtrips per month with no exceptions, 2) changes of at least 6/week are always shown, 3) routes that are added or dropped are shown subject to the change minimum, and 4) in all other cases routes must change by 20% to be shown. For example, if a route changed from 21/week to 18/week it would not be shown because the change is -14.3%. This is done to filter minor changes that occur in large numbers.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Flights that do not operate every day of the month create fractional service. If the route has more than 2 daily flights, departures are rounded, but in cases of less than 2 departures per day a fraction is shown. For example, if a flight operates 4 times in April it will show 4/30=0.133=0.1. Also , a flight that only operates once per week may vary between 0.1 and 0.2 because a weekday may repeat either 4 or 5 times depending on the month.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE SKYWEST
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
Seats are not shown. That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN ERROR?
The carriers file the schedules. They do make mistakes. Most of the mistakes I have seen are either related to code shares not being marked as "duplicates" or carriers filing flights with invalid data such as equipment codes that are not standard or overlapping schedule periods that see the same flight number in two places at once. These cause flights to not appear.

CHARTERS?
Lately charters have been showing up in the database. I have no idea if that will continue.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

3M ELH-FLL SEP 3>1.8[1.9] OCT 3>1.7[1.7]
*3M ELH-MCO SEP 0.4>0.0[0] OCT 0.4>0[0]
3M FLL-GGT SEP 1.7>1.1[0.7] OCT 1.7>0.9[0.7]
3M FLL-GHB SEP 0.7>0.4[0.4] OCT 0.7>0.5[0.4]
3M FLL-MHH SEP 4>2[2] OCT 4>2[2]
3M FLL-TCB SEP 1.3>0.8[0.1] OCT 1.3>0.7[0]
*3M MCO-MHH SEP 1.2>0.1[0] OCT 1.3>0[0]
*3M MHH-PBI SEP 1.0>0.1[0] OCT 1.0>0[0]
*3M MHH-TPA SEP 0.4>0.0[0] OCT 0.4>0[0]
3M NAS-TPA SEP 1.0>0.8[0.7] OCT 1.0>0.7[0.7]

4B ABQ-ALS AUG 0.9>0[0] SEP 0.9>0[0]
4B AIA-DEN AUG 1.7>0[3] SEP 1.7>0.7[3]
4B ALS-DEN AUG 3>4[3]

As predicted the cuts now roll past Summer
*AA AUS-JFK SEP 1.9>1.0[2] OCT 2>1.0[2]
*AA CLT-JFK SEP 7>5[6] OCT 7>5[6]
*AA DCA-JFK SEP 3>0.8[4] OCT 4>1.0[4]
*AA DFW-JFK SEP 4>2[3] OCT 4>2[3]
*AA JFK-LAS SEP 1.8>1.0[2.0] OCT 1.9>1.0[1.7]
The one JFK market gaining
AA JFK-MIA FEB 8>9[6] MAR 8>9[6] APR 7>8[6]
AA JFK-PHX SEP 6>5[4] OCT 6>5[4]
**AA JFK-SAN SEP 1.8>0[1.9] OCT 2>0[1.4]
**AA JFK-SEA SEP 1.8>0[1.5] OCT 2>0[1.0]
AA BNA-LAX SEP 3>1.9[2] OCT 3>1.8[3]
AA BNA-MIA SEP 3>2[3] OCT 3>2[3]
AA BOS-DCA SEP 13>11[13] OCT 14>12[14]
AA BOS-DFW SEP 8>6[7] OCT 8>6[6]
AA BWI-MIA SEP 1.5>1.0[2] OCT 1.6>1.0[3]
AA BWI-PHX SEP 1.5>1.0[1.7] OCT 1.9>1.0[1.9]
AA CUR-MIA SEP 2.0>1.0[2] OCT 2>1.0[2]
*AA DCA-LGA SEP 10>8[10] OCT 11>8[11]
*AA DFW-GYE DEC 0>0.2[0] JAN 0>0.4[0] FEB 0>0.4[0] MAR 0>0.4[0] APR 0>0.4[0]
AA DFW-LAS SEP 11>10[9] OCT 11>10[8]
AA DFW-MIA OCT 11>10[10]
*AA DFW-OAK SEP 0.9>0[1.0] OCT 1.0>0[1.0]
*AA DFW-UIO DEC 0>0.3[0] JAN 0>0.6[0] FEB 0>0.6[0] MAR 0>0.6[0] APR 0>0.6[0]
*AA FLL-ORD SEP 0.7>0.0[1.0] OCT 0.8>0[1.7]
*AA IAD-LAX SEP 1.9>1.0[2] OCT 1.8>0.8[2]
AA IAH-LAX SEP 3>2[3] OCT 3>2.0[3]
Big drop from a year ago
*AA LAS-MIA SEP 2>1.1[3] OCT 2>1.0[3]
AA LAX-MSY SEP 1.8>0.9[1.0] OCT 1.8>0.8[1.9]
AA LAX-SFO OCT 8>7[12]
AA LGA-ORD SEP 13>12[13] OCT 13>12[14]
AA MEX-MIA NOV 4>5[4] DEC 4>5[4] JAN 4>5[4] FEB 4>5[4] MAR 4>5[4] APR 4>5[4]
AA MGA-MIA SEP 1.9>1.0[1.0] OCT 2>1.0[1.0]
AA MIA-PAP SEP 1.9>1.0[2] OCT 2>1.0[2]
AA MIA-PUJ SEP 2>1.1[2] OCT 2>1.0[2]
AA MIA-STT SEP 1.0>0.5[1.0] OCT 1.0>0.5[1.0]
AA MIA-TPA SEP 6>5[6] OCT 6>5[6]
AA MIA-VVI SEP 0.9>0.4[1.0] OCT 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AA ORD-STL OCT 6>5[7]
AA ORD-TPA SEP 3>2[3] OCT 3>2.0[3]
AA PDX-PHX OCT 4>3[4]
*AA PHL-SAT SEP 0.9>0[1.0] OCT 1.0>0[1.0]
AA PHX-PIT SEP 1.5>0.9[1.7] OCT 1.9>1.0[1.9]

AC HNL-YVR OCT 1.1>0.7[0.7]
AC OGG-YVR OCT 1.1>0.6[0.4]

AM BJX-LAX MAR 0.2>0.8[0.8]
See DL notes below
*AM DTW-MEX AUG 1.0>0[1.0]
AM LAX-MEX AUG 5>4[5]

AS LAS-SFO SEP 6>5[6]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 8>6[7]
AS SAN-SFO SEP 5>4[5]
AS SEA-SFO SEP 13>12[11]

APR is a partial month, so ignore. Focus on MAR YOY.
B6 ALB-FLL FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 ALB-MCO FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 ATL-FLL FEB 0.8>2[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 ATL-JFK FEB 0.8>1.6[1.6] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 ATL-MCO FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 AUA-BOS FEB 0.7>1.9[3] MAR 0>2[3] APR 0>2[3]
B6 AUA-FLL FEB 0.2>0.6[1.0] MAR 0>0.6[1.0] APR 0>0.5[1.0]
B6 AUS-BOS FEB 0.8>1.8[1.0] MAR 0>1.9[1.0] APR 0>1.7[1.0]
B6 AUS-FLL FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 AUS-JFK FEB 0.8>1.9[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 AUS-LGB FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 AUS-MCO FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BDA-BOS FEB 0.2>0.4[1.0] MAR 0>0.4[1.0] APR 0>0.4[1.0]
B6 BDA-JFK FEB 0.2>0.6[1.0] MAR 0>0.5[1.0] APR 0>0.5[1.0]
B6 BDL-FLL FEB 0.6>1.8[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 BDL-PBI FEB 0.4>1.0[1.5] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BDL-RSW FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BDL-SJU FEB 0.3>0.9[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BDL-TPA FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BGI-FLL FEB 0.2>0.4[1.0] MAR 0>0.4[1.0] APR 0>0.4[1.0]
B6 BNA-BOS FEB 0.6>1.9[1.5] MAR 0>3[2] APR 0>3[2]
B6 BNA-FLL FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BOG-FLL FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BOS-BUF FEB 1.2>3[3] APR 0>3[4]
B6 BOS-BUR FEB 0.3>0.9[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BOS-CHS FEB 0.4>1.0[1.5] MAR 0>1.0[2] APR 0>0.9[2]
B6 BOS-CLT FEB 2>4[2.0] MAR 0>5[3] APR 0>4[3]
B6 BOS-CUN FEB 0.3>1.0[0.9] MAR 0>1.1[1.2] APR 0>1.0[1.1]
B6 BOS-DCA FEB 6>13[8] MAR 0>13[10] APR 0>12[10]
B6 BOS-DEN FEB 0.8>1.8[1.9] MAR 0>1.9[1.8] APR 0>1.7[1.9]
B6 BOS-DFW FEB 0.7>1.4[1.4] APR 0>1.5[1.7]
B6 BOS-EWR FEB 3>6[4] MAR 0>7[5] APR 0>6[5]
B6 BOS-FLL FEB 2>6[6] MAR 0>5[6] APR 0>5[6]
B6 BOS-HDN APR 0>0.3[0]
B6 BOS-IAH FEB 0.4>1.0[0] MAR 0>1.0[0] APR 0>0.9[0]
B6 BOS-JAX FEB 0.8>2[3] MAR 0>2[3] APR 0>1.8[3]
B6 BOS-LGB FEB 0.4>1.0[1.7] MAR 0>1.0[1.2] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BOS-MCO FEB 3>8[7] MAR 0>8[7] APR 0>8[7]
B6 BOS-MEX FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BOS-MSY FEB 0.6>1.7[1.5] APR 0>1.9[2.0]
B6 BOS-NAS FEB 0.1>1.3[1.1] MAR 0>1.8[2] APR 0>1.8[2]
B6 BOS-PHL FEB 3>6[5] MAR 0>7[6] APR 0>7[6]
B6 BOS-PHX FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BOS-PSP APR 0>0.2[0.6]
B6 BOS-PUJ FEB 0.2>0.5[1.1] MAR 0>0.4[1.2] APR 0>0.4[1.1]
B6 BOS-RDU FEB 1.9>4[5] MAR 0>5[6] APR 0>5[6]
B6 BOS-ROC FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BOS-RSW FEB 2>6[7] MAR 0>6[8] APR 0>6[8]
B6 BOS-SAN FEB 1.0>2[1.9] MAR 0>1.9[1.8] APR 0>1.7[1.9]
B6 BOS-SAV FEB 0.4>1.4[1.4] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 BOS-SDQ FEB 0.6>1.1[1.1] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BOS-SEA FEB 0.8>1.8[1.9] MAR 0>1.9[1.8] APR 0>1.7[1.9]
B6 BOS-SJC FEB 0>0.6[0.8] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BOS-SJU FEB 0.6>1.3[1.0] MAR 0>1.3[1.0] APR 0>1.1[1.0]
B6 BOS-SLC FEB 0.3>0.9[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BOS-SRQ FEB 0.4>1.2[1.5] MAR 0>1.3[1.2] APR 0>1.2[1.1]
B6 BOS-STI FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BOS-STT APR 0>0.5[0.4]
B6 BOS-SYR FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BOS-TPA FEB 1.7>4[5] MAR 0>3[5] APR 0>3[5]
B6 BQN-FLL FEB 0.1>0.4[0.3] MAR 0>0.3[0.4] APR 0>0.3[0.4]
B6 BUF-FLL FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BUF-JFK FEB 1.9>4[5] APR 0>4[5]
B6 BUF-LAX FEB 0.2>0.7[0.6] APR 0>0.7[0.9]
B6 BUF-MCO FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 BUR-JFK FEB 0.7>1.7[1.9] MAR 0>1.7[1.8] APR 0>1.7[1.9]
B6 CHS-FLL FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 CHS-JFK FEB 0.8>2.0[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 CLE-FLL FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 CMW-FLL FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 CTG-FLL FEB 0.2>0.6[1.0] MAR 0>0.6[1.0] APR 0>0.5[1.0]
B6 CTG-JFK FEB 0.4>0.8[0.7] MAR 0>0.5[0.6] APR 0>0.5[0.6]
B6 CUN-FLL FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 CUN-JFK FEB 0.4>1.6[1.9] MAR 0>2.0[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 CUN-MCO FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 DCA-PBI FEB 0.8>1.9[1.4] MAR 0>1.9[1.0] APR 0>1.9[1.0]
B6 DCA-RSW FEB 0.8>3[2] MAR 0>3[2] APR 0>3[2]
B6 DEN-JFK FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 EWR-FLL FEB 2>5[5] MAR 0>5[6] APR 0>5[6]
B6 EWR-SDQ FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 EWR-SJU FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 EWR-STI FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 EWR-TPA FEB 0.8>2[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 FLL-GCM FEB 0.2>0.8[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-GYE FEB 0.4>1.0[0.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-HDN MAR 0>0.3[0.2] APR 0>0.3[0]
B6 FLL-HOG FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-HPN FEB 0.8>2.0[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 FLL-JFK FEB 3>8[7] APR 0>7[8]
B6 FLL-KIN FEB 0.6>1.8[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 FLL-LAS FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-LAX FEB 1.7>4[3] MAR 0>4[3] APR 0>4[3]
B6 FLL-LGA FEB 1.7>4[5] MAR 0>4[5] APR 0>4[5]
B6 FLL-LIM FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-MBJ FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-MEX FEB 0.4>1.0[2] MAR 0>1.0[2] APR 0>0.9[2]
B6 FLL-MSY FEB 0.4>1.4[1.0] MAR 0>1.1[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-NAS FEB 1.7>4[5] MAR 0>4[5] APR 0>4[5]
B6 FLL-ORD FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-ORH FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-PAP FEB 0.8>2[2] APR 0>1.9[1.1]
B6 FLL-PHL FEB 0.8>1.9[1.9] MAR 0>2[1.8] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 FLL-PHX FEB 0.4>1.0[0.5] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-PLS FEB 0.2>0.8[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-POS FEB 0.2>0.4[0.6] MAR 0>0.4[0.7] APR 0>0.4[0.7]
B6 FLL-PUJ FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-PVD FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-RDU FEB 0.8>2[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 FLL-RIC FEB 0.8>2[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 FLL-SAN FEB 0.2>0.8[0.7] MAR 0>1.0[0.9] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-SDQ FEB 0.4>1.0[1.5] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-SFO FEB 0.8>2[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 FLL-SJO FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-SJU FEB 0.8>2[3] MAR 0>3[2] APR 0>2[3]
B6 FLL-SLC FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-SNU FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-STI FEB 0.4>0.8[1.0] MAR 0>0.6[1.0] APR 0>0.5[1.0]
B6 FLL-SWF FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 FLL-SXM FEB 0.2>0.4[0.5] MAR 0>0.4[1.0] APR 0>0.4[1.0]
B6 FLL-UIO FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 GCM-JFK FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 GYE-JFK FEB 0.4>1.0[0] MAR 0>1.0[0] APR 0>0.9[0]
B6 HAV-JFK FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 HAV-MCO FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 HPN-RSW FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 HPN-TPA FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 IAH-JFK FEB 0.4>1.0[0] MAR 0>1.0[0] APR 0>0.9[0]
B6 JFK-KIN FEB 0.8>2[2.0] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 JFK-LAX FEB 4>9[10] MAR 0>9[10] APR 0>9[10]
B6 JFK-LGB FEB 0.7>1.8[1.9] MAR 0>1.9[1.8] APR 0>1.7[1.9]
B6 JFK-LIR FEB 0.3>0.7[0.8] APR 0>0.7[0.8]
B6 JFK-MBJ FEB 0.4>1.6[1.5] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 JFK-MCO FEB 3>7[7] APR 0>7[8]
B6 JFK-MEX FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 JFK-MSY FEB 0.7>1.9[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 JFK-NAS FEB 0.4>1.6[2] MAR 0>2[3] APR 0>1.9[3]
B6 JFK-OAK FEB 0.2>0.6[0.6] APR 0>0.5[0.7]
B6 JFK-ONT FEB 0.2>0.8[1.0] MAR 0>0.9[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 JFK-ORD FEB 0.8>2.0[2] MAR 0>1.9[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 JFK-ORH FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 JFK-PAP FEB 0.4>1.6[2] APR 0>1.9[1.1]
B6 JFK-PDX FEB 0.2>0.6[0.6] APR 0>0.6[1.0]
B6 JFK-PHX FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 JFK-PLS FEB 0.4>1.0[1.4] MAR 0>1.0[1.2] APR 0>0.9[1.1]
B6 JFK-POP FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 JFK-POS FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 JFK-PSP FEB 0.3>0.8[1.0] MAR 0>0.8[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 JFK-PTP FEB 0>0.4[0] MAR 0>0.4[0] APR 0>0.4[0]
B6 JFK-RDU FEB 0.8>1.9[1.9] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 JFK-RNO FEB 0.2>0.7[0.7] APR 0>0.7[0.8]
B6 JFK-SAN FEB 0.8>1.8[1.9] MAR 0>1.9[1.8] APR 0>1.7[1.9]
B6 JFK-SAV FEB 0.8>1.9[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 JFK-SEA FEB 0.8>1.8[1.9] MAR 0>1.9[1.8] APR 0>1.7[1.9]
B6 JFK-SFO FEB 2>6[6] APR 0>5[6]
B6 JFK-SJC FEB 0.2>0.7[0.8] MAR 0>0.7[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 JFK-SJO FEB 0.2>0.4[0] MAR 0>0.5[0] APR 0>0.4[0]
B6 JFK-SJU FEB 1.1>3[2] MAR 0>3[2] APR 0>2[3]
B6 JFK-SLC FEB 0.8>2[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 JFK-SMF FEB 0.3>0.9[0.9] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 JFK-SRQ FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 JFK-SYR FEB 0.8>1.9[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 JFK-TPA FEB 1.2>3[4] MAR 0>2[4] APR 0>1.9[4]
B6 LAX-MCO FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 LGA-MCO FEB 1.2>3[4] MAR 0>3[4] APR 0>3[4]
B6 LGB-OAK SEP 2>3[2] FEB 0.8>2[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 LGB-PDX FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 LGB-RNO FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 LGB-SEA FEB 0.8>1.3[1.0] MAR 0>1.0[1.6] APR 0>0.9[1.9]
B6 LGB-SFO SEP 2>1.4[2] FEB 0.8>2[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 LGB-SJC FEB 0.8>2[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 LGB-SMF FEB 0.8>2[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 MBJ-MCO FEB 0.3>0.9[0.9] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 MCO-MEX FEB 0.4>1.0[2] MAR 0>1.0[2] APR 0>0.9[2]
B6 MCO-NAS FEB 0.2>0.8[0.8] MAR 0>0.7[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 MCO-ORH FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 MCO-PAP MAR 0>0.6[1.0] APR 0>0.5[1.0]
B6 MCO-PVD FEB 0.8>2.0[2] APR 0>1.9[2.0]
B6 MCO-RIC FEB 0.8>2[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 MCO-SDQ FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 MCO-SJO FEB 0.5>1.1[1.5] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 MCO-SJU FEB 1.0>2[3] MAR 0>2[3] APR 0>2[3]
B6 MCO-SLC FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 MCO-SWF FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 MCO-SYR FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 PBI-PVD FEB 0.4>1.0[0.5] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 SJU-TPA FEB 0.2>0.8[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]

Looks like DL backfilled a bunch of AM flying short term, probably MAX
DL ATL-GDL OCT 0.7>1.0[0.7]
DL DTW-MEX SEP 1.0>2.0[1.0]
DL JFK-MEX SEP 1.0>2[1.0]
DL LAX-MEX SEP 1.0>4[1.0]

DY BCN-SFO NOV 0>0.3[0] DEC 0>0.3[0] JAN 0>0.3[0] FEB 0>0.3[0] MAR 0>0.3[0]
DY CDG-SFO NOV 0>0.3[0] DEC 0>0.3[0] JAN 0>0.3[0] FEB 0>0.3[0] MAR 0>0.3[0]

Interesting. Rare for EK to do sub-daily to the USA.
*EK DXB-EWR OCT 1.0>0.7[1.0]

Looks like this also happened last year, but they had hopes to continue it.
*FI KEF-PHL OCT 0.7>0[0.4] NOV 0.7>0[0] DEC 0.6>0[0]

HA HNL-KOA JAN 18>17[17] FEB 18>16[16]

IG MIA-MXP APR 0>0.7[0.6]
IG MXP-SFO APR 0>0.6[0.4]

JQ HNL-SYD APR 0>0.6[0.7]

OZ ICN-JFK APR 1.0>2[1.0]

UA ALB-EWR DEC 5>4[5]
UA AMA-DEN DEC 2>1.6[1.9]
UA ANC-DEN DEC 1.0>1.4[1.4]
UA ASE-SFO DEC 1.7>1.3[1.3]
UA AVL-EWR DEC 0>0.4[1.0]
UA BDL-ORD DEC 4>3[4] JAN 4>3[3]
UA BOI-LAX DEC 2>3[3]
UA BOI-SFO DEC 5>6[5]
UA BOS-EWR DEC 11>10[9]
UA BOS-ORD DEC 8>7[6]
UA BUF-EWR DEC 5>4[5]
UA CHA-IAD DEC 2>1.6[1.6]
UA CHO-IAD DEC 3>2[2]
UA CLE-ORD DEC 9>8[8]
UA CNY-DEN DEC 1.3>1.0[1.7] JAN 1.7>1.0[1.7] FEB 1.7>1.0[1.7]
UA CRW-ORD DEC 4>3[1.6]
UA CVG-EWR DEC 6>5[4]
UA DAY-IAD DEC 2>1.5[1.6]
UA DCA-EWR DEC 8>7[7]
UA DCA-ORD DEC 14>13[12]
UA DEN-FCA JAN 2>3[3]
UA DEN-HDN JAN 2>3[2]
UA DEN-HSV DEC 2.0>1.5[1.7]
UA DEN-LBB DEC 2>1.5[1.5]
UA DEN-MIA DEC 1.3>1.7[1.2]
UA DEN-MRY DEC 1.6>1.1[2.0]
UA DEN-RSW DEC 1.4>1.8[1.4]
UA DEN-YEG DEC 2>1.6[1.5]
UA DEN-YWG DEC 1.5>1.1[1.0]
UA DFW-ORD DEC 8>7[6]
UA EWR-PBI DEC 6>7[7]
UA EWR-PDX DEC 2>1.6[1.9]
UA EWR-PIT DEC 10>9[7]
UA EWR-PUJ OCT 1.3>1.0[1.3] NOV 2>1.0[2] DEC 2>1.0[2]
UA EWR-SLC DEC 1.0>1.4[1.4]
UA EWR-SMF DEC 0.1>0.5[0.4]
UA EYW-ORD DEC 1.1>1.6[1.1]
UA FAR-ORD DEC 4>3[3]
UA FLL-IAD DEC 2>3[2]
UA FLL-SFO DEC 1.0>1.4[1.4]
UA GEG-SFO DEC 2>1.6[2]
UA GRB-ORD DEC 5>4[4]
UA GRR-IAH DEC 1.9>1.5[1.5]
UA HSV-IAD DEC 2>1.5[1.5]
UA IAD-MDT DEC 4>3[2]
UA IAD-MIA DEC 1.0>1.4[0.7]
UA IAD-PHX DEC 1.0>1.4[1.0]
UA IAD-PUJ OCT 0.5>0.2[0.1] NOV 2>1.0[1.0] DEC 2>1.0[1.0]
UA IAD-PWM DEC 3>2[2.0]
UA IAH-LAX DEC 9>10[10]
UA IAH-LIT DEC 6>5[5]
UA IAH-MCI DEC 5>4[5]
UA IAH-MOB DEC 5>4[4]
UA IAH-PBI DEC 1.0>1.4[0.4]
UA IAH-PUJ NOV 0.6>0.2[0.1] DEC 0.7>0.5[0.5]
UA IAH-RNO DEC 1.0>1.5[0.7]
UA IAH-SJC DEC 1.5>1.9[1.0]
UA IAH-XNA DEC 5>4[3]
UA IND-SFO DEC 1.0>1.4[1.9]
UA KOA-LAX DEC 1.9>1.5[2]
UA LAS-SFO DEC 8>7[8]
UA LAX-SFO DEC 12>10[13] JAN 12>11[14]
UA LAX-SLC DEC 1.9>2[2]
UA LGA-ORD DEC 16>14[13]
UA MCO-ORD DEC 6>7[7]
UA MIA-ORD DEC 3>4[3]
UA ONT-SFO NOV 5>4[6]
UA ORD-PBI DEC 1.5>3[1.4] JAN 1.8>2[1.2]
UA ORD-PIA DEC 5>4[3]
UA ORD-RAP DEC 1.0>1.4[1.0]
UA ORD-ROC JAN 4>2[4]
UA ORD-RSW DEC 3>4[3]
UA ORD-SJC DEC 1.5>1.1[1.5]
UA ORD-SRQ DEC 1.4>1.9[2]
UA ORD-TUS DEC 1.6>2[1.0]
UA ORD-YYZ DEC 6>5[5]
UA PDX-SFO DEC 8>7[7]
UA PIT-SFO DEC 1.5>1.9[1.4]
UA SAN-SFO DEC 8>7[8]
UA SFO-STL DEC 1.0>1.4[1.9]
UA SFO-XNA DEC 1.0>0.6[1.0]

Picked up another "slot" I guess
WN DEN-LGB NOV 0>0.3[0.4]
WN LAS-LGB NOV 0.5>1.0[3]
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:16 pm

AA just announced this weekend that the MAX cancelations will be extended until November 2.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:20 pm

Unless the MAX was slated to fly JFK-MEX, I'm surprised that they're operating that on DL metal, given that AM on MEX-JFK is 4x daily (3x B738 and 1x B789).

As for EK, I have to wonder if they could consider leveraging that morning airport gate to move on 2 days ATH-EWR to a noontime departure. While EWR isn't slot restricted, gate space is at a premium.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:37 pm

aemoreira1981 wrote:
Unless the MAX was slated to fly JFK-MEX, I'm surprised that they're operating that on DL metal, given that AM on MEX-JFK is 4x daily (3x B738 and 1x B789).

As for EK, I have to wonder if they could consider leveraging that morning airport gate to move on 2 days ATH-EWR to a noontime departure. While EWR isn't slot restricted, gate space is at a premium.

I think people seem to not realize that airlines can swap aircraft. Just because a plane type was originally scheduled to fly a certain route, it doesn't mean it can't easily swap to another. I also have a confirmation in a private message since I posted that the DL route swaps are temporary and as a result of the MAX caused aircraft shortage.
DanDun wrote:
AA just announced this weekend that the MAX cancelations will be extended until November 2.

Yup. The posters on here defending the JFK cuts had stated that the runway construction was only for Summer. I'll be interested to see whether these new cuts jeopardize their slots or if they are still able to use the construction to hold them.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:47 pm

You sure EK DXB- EWR is not a misfile? Last year it was twice daily. But now it's showing less than daily?
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:48 pm

No B6 love for TPA? Down 2 from both BOS and JFK. What's up with that?
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:50 pm

I'm confused on B6 BOS-MCO. Did it really go from 0 to 8 daily?
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:04 pm

mcogator wrote:
I'm confused on B6 BOS-MCO. Did it really go from 0 to 8 daily?

It went from 7 last year (brackets) to 8 this year, for some reason they were late in putting it up for sale this year, so it shows the 0.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:05 pm

AA up compared to last year on MIA and PHX. Increasing hubs and decreasing spokes is a bad sign.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:11 pm

enilria wrote:
aemoreira1981 wrote:
Unless the MAX was slated to fly JFK-MEX, I'm surprised that they're operating that on DL metal, given that AM on MEX-JFK is 4x daily (3x B738 and 1x B789).

As for EK, I have to wonder if they could consider leveraging that morning airport gate to move on 2 days ATH-EWR to a noontime departure. While EWR isn't slot restricted, gate space is at a premium.

I think people seem to not realize that airlines can swap aircraft. Just because a plane type was originally scheduled to fly a certain route, it doesn't mean it can't easily swap to another. I also have a confirmation in a private message since I posted that the DL route swaps are temporary and as a result of the MAX caused aircraft shortage.
DanDun wrote:
AA just announced this weekend that the MAX cancelations will be extended until November 2.

Yup. The posters on here defending the JFK cuts had stated that the runway construction was only for Summer. I'll be interested to see whether these new cuts jeopardize their slots or if they are still able to use the construction to hold them.


The runway construction has always been scheduled through November:

https://www.panynj.gov/press-room/press ... ne_id=3100

So we’ll see what happens come December.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:20 pm

DanDun wrote:
AA just announced this weekend that the MAX cancelations will be extended until November 2.

enilria wrote:
Yup. The posters on here defending the JFK cuts had stated that the runway construction was only for Summer. I'll be interested to see whether these new cuts jeopardize their slots or if they are still able to use the construction to hold them.


Afaik, the runway work isn't scheduled to be completed until November, so the cuts would have to been scheduled regardless.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:27 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
You sure EK DXB- EWR is not a misfile? Last year it was twice daily. But now it's showing less than daily?

As you can see above it was on a daily last year. You are confusing the ATH flight.
heretothere wrote:
enilria wrote:
aemoreira1981 wrote:
Unless the MAX was slated to fly JFK-MEX, I'm surprised that they're operating that on DL metal, given that AM on MEX-JFK is 4x daily (3x B738 and 1x B789).

As for EK, I have to wonder if they could consider leveraging that morning airport gate to move on 2 days ATH-EWR to a noontime departure. While EWR isn't slot restricted, gate space is at a premium.

I think people seem to not realize that airlines can swap aircraft. Just because a plane type was originally scheduled to fly a certain route, it doesn't mean it can't easily swap to another. I also have a confirmation in a private message since I posted that the DL route swaps are temporary and as a result of the MAX caused aircraft shortage.
DanDun wrote:
AA just announced this weekend that the MAX cancelations will be extended until November 2.

Yup. The posters on here defending the JFK cuts had stated that the runway construction was only for Summer. I'll be interested to see whether these new cuts jeopardize their slots or if they are still able to use the construction to hold them.


The runway construction has always been scheduled through November:

https://www.panynj.gov/press-room/press ... ne_id=3100

So we’ll see what happens come December.

I guess so, although are JFK slots in DEC-FEB really that hard to get? They might be able to let those go too.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:31 pm

Yes the DL-AM shifts are temporary related to the MAX issues.

For example, starting in Aug DL will be flying the 2nd DTW-MEX flight which had been an AM 73G.
They can use that plane to cover elsewhere. DL has plenty of narrow bodies to cover particularly after peak summer schedule.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:39 pm

As a PHL fan disappointed FI cutting the season short yet again this year. Obviously they have there reasons my guess cause of the Max issues or bookings maybe low to there expectations.
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Re: OAG Changes 7/14/2019:AA Extends JFK Cuts,Adds DFW-GYE/UIO;FI Makes PHL Seasonal;EK Reduces EWR

Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:43 pm

holeham wrote:
No B6 love for TPA? Down 2 from both BOS and JFK. What's up with that?


enilria wrote:
FAQ

B6 BOS-TPA FEB 1.7>4[5] MAR 0>3[5] APR 0>3[5]
B6 EWR-TPA FEB 0.8>2[2] APR 0>1.9[2]
B6 HPN-TPA FEB 0.4>1.0[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]
B6 JFK-TPA FEB 1.2>3[4] MAR 0>2[4] APR 0>1.9[4]
B6 SJU-TPA FEB 0.2>0.8[1.0] APR 0>0.9[1.0]


It is a bit surprising to see B6 down to 10 flights out of TPA, assuming the BDL flight stays which wasn't part of this week's changes. TPA-DCA just ended this month.

Though my understanding is some flights are now on the 321, so larger equipment.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:47 pm

It's interesting to see how airlines are "guessing" when the MAX airplanes will be re-certified. My guess is not until after the 1st of next year. Boeing needs to be test-flying the revised software like mad right now...testing the exact scenarios that took the crashed airplanes hundreds of times. I don't even thing 230+ flights is enough. Boeing needs to make sure over and over again that this issue doesn't happen again...or I think Boeing will be doomed. Boeing/airlines also needs to train as many pilots as possible to deal with this issue. That's just my 2 cents.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:55 pm

AS LAS-SFO SEP 6>5[6]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 8>6[7]
AS SAN-SFO SEP 5>4[5]
AS SEA-SFO SEP 13>12[11]


So how’s that SFO hub going for AS? ;)
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:02 pm

Interesting that BOS feverishly needs SAT service and AA at PHL just dusted the only one they had.
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:24 pm

AirFiero wrote:
AS LAS-SFO SEP 6>5[6]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 8>6[7]
AS SAN-SFO SEP 5>4[5]
AS SEA-SFO SEP 13>12[11]


So how’s that SFO hub going for AS? ;)


It's September. U.S carriers routinely cut flight numbers after summer season and kids return to school. Check the passenger arrivals data for the top ten or so airports by month.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:29 pm

enilria wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
You sure EK DXB- EWR is not a misfile? Last year it was twice daily. But now it's showing less than daily?

As you can see above it was on a daily last year. You are confusing the ATH flight.
heretothere wrote:
enilria wrote:
I think people seem to not realize that airlines can swap aircraft. Just because a plane type was originally scheduled to fly a certain route, it doesn't mean it can't easily swap to another. I also have a confirmation in a private message since I posted that the DL route swaps are temporary and as a result of the MAX caused aircraft shortage.

Yup. The posters on here defending the JFK cuts had stated that the runway construction was only for Summer. I'll be interested to see whether these new cuts jeopardize their slots or if they are still able to use the construction to hold them.


The runway construction has always been scheduled through November:

https://www.panynj.gov/press-room/press ... ne_id=3100

So we’ll see what happens come December.

I guess so, although are JFK slots in DEC-FEB really that hard to get? They might be able to let those go too.


Yes, I see now. It is cut for a 3 week period in November before returning.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:36 pm

AS LAS-SFO SEP 6>5[6]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 8>6[7]
AS SAN-SFO SEP 5>4[5]
AS SEA-SFO SEP 13>12[11

I don't get Alaska's strategy for SFO.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:06 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
AS LAS-SFO SEP 6>5[6]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 8>6[7]
AS SAN-SFO SEP 5>4[5]
AS SEA-SFO SEP 13>12[11]


So how’s that SFO hub going for AS? ;)


It's September. U.S carriers routinely cut flight numbers after summer season and kids return to school. Check the passenger arrivals data for the top ten or so airports by month.

True, but you can see they are reductions from last year. So that’s moot in 3 of the 4.
wedgetail737 wrote:
It's interesting to see how airlines are "guessing" when the MAX airplanes will be re-certified. My guess is not until after the 1st of next year. Boeing needs to be test-flying the revised software like mad right now...testing the exact scenarios that took the crashed airplanes hundreds of times. I don't even thing 230+ flights is enough. Boeing needs to make sure over and over again that this issue doesn't happen again...or I think Boeing will be doomed. Boeing/airlines also needs to train as many pilots as possible to deal with this issue. That's just my 2 cents.

I’m guessing June 2020 now.
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aemoreira1981 wrote:
Unless the MAX was slated to fly JFK-MEX, I'm surprised that they're operating that on DL metal, given that AM on MEX-JFK is 4x daily (3x B738 and 1x B789).

As for EK, I have to wonder if they could consider leveraging that morning airport gate to move on 2 days ATH-EWR to a noontime departure. While EWR isn't slot restricted, gate space is at a premium.

I think people seem to not realize that airlines can swap aircraft. Just because a plane type was originally scheduled to fly a certain route, it doesn't mean it can't easily swap to another. I also have a confirmation in a private message since I posted that the DL route swaps are temporary and as a result of the MAX caused aircraft shortage.
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AA just announced this weekend that the MAX cancelations will be extended until November 2.

Yup. The posters on here defending the JFK cuts had stated that the runway construction was only for Summer. I'll be interested to see whether these new cuts jeopardize their slots or if they are still able to use the construction to hold them.


The runway construction has always been scheduled through November:

https://www.panynj.gov/press-room/press ... ne_id=3100

So we’ll see what happens come December.
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I'm confused on B6 BOS-MCO. Did it really go from 0 to 8 daily?

It went from 7 last year (brackets) to 8 this year, for some reason they were late in putting it up for sale this year, so it shows the 0.

The legacies load their schedules 330 days out so you don’t see in this thread when they drop in their extensions. The LCCs loss their schedules in shorter windows that this thread includes so when they add those they appear here. You have to look at the YOY count vs a full month to compare. I believe this is covered in the FAQ.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:16 pm

AirFiero wrote:
AS LAS-SFO SEP 6>5[6]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 8>6[7]
AS SAN-SFO SEP 5>4[5]
AS SEA-SFO SEP 13>12[11]


So how’s that SFO hub going for AS? ;)

Yep, not looking real promising is it? I know that the competition on SAN-SFO -- UA and WN -- are upwards of ~8 r/t daily! AS currently is offering ~6 r/t so the Sept count is a new all-time low.

Maybe they're doing an extra batch of interior re-dos on the 'Buses in the fall or perhaps they have all A321s flying these w/c routes out of SF? Just trying to look optimistically at this. Interesting situation... Kind of hard to blame this on the MAX groundings isn't it?

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Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:19 pm

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As a PHL fan disappointed FI cutting the season short yet again this year. Obviously they have there reasons my guess cause of the Max issues or bookings maybe low to there expectations.


Right now, Icelandair is short about 9-10 planes. The MAX groundings have killed them this year; JFK was supposed to be on the B39M right now as an example, but is on a B752/B753 mix instead.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:04 pm

SANFan wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
AS LAS-SFO SEP 6>5[6]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 8>6[7]
AS SAN-SFO SEP 5>4[5]
AS SEA-SFO SEP 13>12[11]


So how’s that SFO hub going for AS? ;)

Yep, not looking real promising is it? I know that the competition on SAN-SFO -- UA and WN -- are upwards of ~8 r/t daily! AS currently is offering ~6 r/t so the Sept count is a new all-time low.

Maybe they're doing an extra batch of interior re-dos on the 'Buses in the fall or perhaps they have all A321s flying these w/c routes out of SF? Just trying to look optimistically at this. Interesting situation... Kind of hard to blame this on the MAX groundings isn't it?

bb


It's proactive pruning for the 07SEP-27SEP SFO runway construction. Hence why the reduction is only for September.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:07 pm

aemoreira1981 wrote:
Bigant0408 wrote:
As a PHL fan disappointed FI cutting the season short yet again this year. Obviously they have there reasons my guess cause of the Max issues or bookings maybe low to there expectations.


Right now, Icelandair is short about 9-10 planes. The MAX groundings have killed them this year; JFK was supposed to be on the B39M right now as an example, but is on a B752/B753 mix instead.


Yea I can tell they are scrambling since they cancels Cleveland and Tampa. It’s crazy
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:35 pm

AirFiero wrote:
AS LAS-SFO SEP 6>5[6]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 8>6[7]
AS SAN-SFO SEP 5>4[5]
AS SEA-SFO SEP 13>12[11]


So how’s that SFO hub going for AS? ;)

I am not arguing that it's going well, but dropping a net of 2 daily flights for a single month doesn't mean much.

As suggested above, when airlines drop frequencies for only one month it is usually becasue of a specific and temporary cause.

Once AS gets back into growth mode we will get a better idea of their long term SFO plans. I am not expecting much.
 
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After everyone said BOS-PSP wasn’t coming back, looks like B6 proved you wrong :)
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:42 pm

md3 wrote:
SANFan wrote:
AirFiero wrote:

So how’s that SFO hub going for AS? ;)

Yep, not looking real promising is it? I know that the competition on SAN-SFO -- UA and WN -- are upwards of ~8 r/t daily! AS currently is offering ~6 r/t so the Sept count is a new all-time low.

Maybe they're doing an extra batch of interior re-dos on the 'Buses in the fall or perhaps they have all A321s flying these w/c routes out of SF? Just trying to look optimistically at this. Interesting situation... Kind of hard to blame this on the MAX groundings isn't it?

bb


It's proactive pruning for the 07SEP-27SEP SFO runway construction. Hence why the reduction is only for September.


More on 28L runway construction: https://www.flysfo.com/28l-reconstruction
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:03 pm

DDR wrote:
AS LAS-SFO SEP 6>5[6]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 8>6[7]
AS SAN-SFO SEP 5>4[5]
AS SEA-SFO SEP 13>12[11
I don't get Alaska's strategy for SFO.


You are assuming they have a strategy...

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Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:29 pm

B6 is smaller at a bunch of Caribbean destinations out of FLL in Feb/Mar. BGI is smaller, POS isn’t getting its usual carnival bump in schedule, SDQ, PLS, SXM, GCM.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:13 pm

Aliqiout wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
AS LAS-SFO SEP 6>5[6]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 8>6[7]
AS SAN-SFO SEP 5>4[5]
AS SEA-SFO SEP 13>12[11]


So how’s that SFO hub going for AS? ;)

I am not arguing that it's going well, but dropping a net of 2 daily flights for a single month doesn't mean much.

As suggested above, when airlines drop frequencies for only one month it is usually becasue of a specific and temporary cause.

Once AS gets back into growth mode we will get a better idea of their long term SFO plans. I am not expecting much.


It has been a trend at SFO on AS.

Did AS post any other schedule adjustments beyond September?
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 pm

AirFiero wrote:
Aliqiout wrote:
AirFiero wrote:

So how’s that SFO hub going for AS? ;)

I am not arguing that it's going well, but dropping a net of 2 daily flights for a single month doesn't mean much.

As suggested above, when airlines drop frequencies for only one month it is usually becasue of a specific and temporary cause.

Once AS gets back into growth mode we will get a better idea of their long term SFO plans. I am not expecting much.


It has been a trend at SFO on AS.

Did AS post any other schedule adjustments beyond September?


Seems people only read the responses they want to on this site.

SFO is doing runway construction in September. Expect trimming from other airlines to help out with delays. https://www.flysfo.com/media/press-rele ... nstruction
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:57 am

md3 wrote:
It's proactive pruning for the 07SEP-27SEP SFO runway construction. Hence why the reduction is only for September.

Thanks for that info, md3, I did not know about that work. It's nice to have a sensible explanation.

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Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:41 am

[quote="enilria"

AA BNA-MIA SEP 3>2[3] OCT 3>2[3]
AA BWI-MIA SEP 1.5>1.0[2] OCT 1.6>1.0[3]
AA CUR-MIA SEP 2.0>1.0[2] OCT 2>1.0[2]
AA DFW-MIA OCT 11>10[10]
*AA FLL-ORD SEP 0.7>0.0[1.0] OCT 0.8>0[1.7]
*AA LAS-MIA SEP 2>1.1[3] OCT 2>1.0[3]]
AA MGA-MIA SEP 1.9>1.0[1.0] OCT 2>1.0[1.0]
AA MIA-PAP SEP 1.9>1.0[2] OCT 2>1.0[2]
AA MIA-PUJ SEP 2>1.1[2] OCT 2>1.0[2]
AA MIA-STT SEP 1.0>0.5[1.0] OCT 1.0>0.5[1.0]
AA MIA-TPA SEP 6>5[6] OCT 6>5[6]
AA MIA-VVI SEP 0.9>0.4[1.0] OCT 1.0>0.4[1.0]
[/quote]

Looks like MIA/FLL is taking a bigger schedule hit than usual this Sep/Oct. I know the MAX is part of the equation but I can't remember AA reducing the schedules down to just one flight a day on some of these routes. Hopefully this is just temporary.
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:46 am

JFK is not doing too well with AA. What’s happening with silver? I’ve been noticing quite a few cuts recently...

EYW is having some pretty good fortune... UA just upgraded EYW-EWR to more than daily!
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:53 am

miaami wrote:
enilria wrote:

AA BNA-MIA SEP 3>2[3] OCT 3>2[3]
AA BWI-MIA SEP 1.5>1.0[2] OCT 1.6>1.0[3]
AA CUR-MIA SEP 2.0>1.0[2] OCT 2>1.0[2]
AA DFW-MIA OCT 11>10[10]
*AA FLL-ORD SEP 0.7>0.0[1.0] OCT 0.8>0[1.7]
*AA LAS-MIA SEP 2>1.1[3] OCT 2>1.0[3]]
AA MGA-MIA SEP 1.9>1.0[1.0] OCT 2>1.0[1.0]
AA MIA-PAP SEP 1.9>1.0[2] OCT 2>1.0[2]
AA MIA-PUJ SEP 2>1.1[2] OCT 2>1.0[2]
AA MIA-STT SEP 1.0>0.5[1.0] OCT 1.0>0.5[1.0]
AA MIA-TPA SEP 6>5[6] OCT 6>5[6]
AA MIA-VVI SEP 0.9>0.4[1.0] OCT 1.0>0.4[1.0]


Looks like MIA/FLL is taking a bigger schedule hit than usual this Sep/Oct. I know the MAX is part of the equation but I can't remember AA reducing the schedules down to just one flight a day on some of these routes. Hopefully this is just temporary.


Was surprised by a few of these as well but it’s impossible to tell the reasoning, Max is likely part of it, but aa could have issues on a few fronts- deferred maintenance schedules from this summer could be catching up with them on the 738 fleet, MD80s are exiting in early September and there’s also the contract issues with the maintenance unions... given the pain of being an AA customer this summer, they probably could use a few more spares....
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:56 am

AirFiero wrote:
AS LAS-SFO SEP 6>5[6]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 8>6[7]
AS SAN-SFO SEP 5>4[5]
AS SEA-SFO SEP 13>12[11]


So how’s that SFO hub going for AS? ;)


SFO has always been a seasonal airport. As enilria points out further down, these numbers are similar to last year.
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:12 am

md3 wrote:
SANFan wrote:
AirFiero wrote:

So how’s that SFO hub going for AS? ;)

Yep, not looking real promising is it? I know that the competition on SAN-SFO -- UA and WN -- are upwards of ~8 r/t daily! AS currently is offering ~6 r/t so the Sept count is a new all-time low.

Maybe they're doing an extra batch of interior re-dos on the 'Buses in the fall or perhaps they have all A321s flying these w/c routes out of SF? Just trying to look optimistically at this. Interesting situation... Kind of hard to blame this on the MAX groundings isn't it?

bb


It's proactive pruning for the 07SEP-27SEP SFO runway construction. Hence why the reduction is only for September.


Aww, man. Here everyone thought the hub was closing while they're building a new Alaska Lounge. But people love the dramatics. :)
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:33 am

EK77WNH wrote:
Interesting that BOS feverishly needs SAT service and AA at PHL just dusted the only one they had.

Surprising that they just added a 3rd PHL-AUS flight tentatively starting in the fall, but pushed the SAT suspension further out.
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:07 am

EvanWSFO wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
AS LAS-SFO SEP 6>5[6]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 8>6[7]
AS SAN-SFO SEP 5>4[5]
AS SEA-SFO SEP 13>12[11]


So how’s that SFO hub going for AS? ;)


SFO has always been a seasonal airport. As enilria points out further down, these numbers are similar to last year.

Last years numbers are in the original post. You quoted them.
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:09 am

AirFiero wrote:
Aliqiout wrote:
AirFiero wrote:

So how’s that SFO hub going for AS? ;)

I am not arguing that it's going well, but dropping a net of 2 daily flights for a single month doesn't mean much.

As suggested above, when airlines drop frequencies for only one month it is usually becasue of a specific and temporary cause.

Once AS gets back into growth mode we will get a better idea of their long term SFO plans. I am not expecting much.


It has been a trend at SFO on AS.

Did AS post any other schedule adjustments beyond September?

The last few OAG's had adjustments beyond September.
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:12 am

Aliqiout wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
Aliqiout wrote:
I am not arguing that it's going well, but dropping a net of 2 daily flights for a single month doesn't mean much.

As suggested above, when airlines drop frequencies for only one month it is usually becasue of a specific and temporary cause.

Once AS gets back into growth mode we will get a better idea of their long term SFO plans. I am not expecting much.


It has been a trend at SFO on AS.

Did AS post any other schedule adjustments beyond September?

The last few OAG's had adjustments beyond September.


THANK YOU. Seems some people know how to answer a question. Were there other reductions at other airports? Seasonal, or otherwise?
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:28 am

AirFiero wrote:
Aliqiout wrote:
AirFiero wrote:

It has been a trend at SFO on AS.

Did AS post any other schedule adjustments beyond September?

The last few OAG's had adjustments beyond September.


THANK YOU. Seems some people know how to answer a question. Were there other reductions at other airports? Seasonal, or otherwise?

There were cuts at DAL and adds to SEA and Florida, but you look at the threads to see the details.
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:39 am

HPAEAA wrote:
miaami wrote:
enilria wrote:

AA BNA-MIA SEP 3>2[3] OCT 3>2[3]
AA BWI-MIA SEP 1.5>1.0[2] OCT 1.6>1.0[3]
AA CUR-MIA SEP 2.0>1.0[2] OCT 2>1.0[2]
AA DFW-MIA OCT 11>10[10]
*AA FLL-ORD SEP 0.7>0.0[1.0] OCT 0.8>0[1.7]
*AA LAS-MIA SEP 2>1.1[3] OCT 2>1.0[3]]
AA MGA-MIA SEP 1.9>1.0[1.0] OCT 2>1.0[1.0]
AA MIA-PAP SEP 1.9>1.0[2] OCT 2>1.0[2]
AA MIA-PUJ SEP 2>1.1[2] OCT 2>1.0[2]
AA MIA-STT SEP 1.0>0.5[1.0] OCT 1.0>0.5[1.0]
AA MIA-TPA SEP 6>5[6] OCT 6>5[6]
AA MIA-VVI SEP 0.9>0.4[1.0] OCT 1.0>0.4[1.0]


Looks like MIA/FLL is taking a bigger schedule hit than usual this Sep/Oct. I know the MAX is part of the equation but I can't remember AA reducing the schedules down to just one flight a day on some of these routes. Hopefully this is just temporary.


Was surprised by a few of these as well but it’s impossible to tell the reasoning, Max is likely part of it, but aa could have issues on a few fronts- deferred maintenance schedules from this summer could be catching up with them on the 738 fleet, MD80s are exiting in early September and there’s also the contract issues with the maintenance unions... given the pain of being an AA customer this summer, they probably could use a few more spares....


The MAX issues is definitely 100 percent the reason behind both the MIA and the well documented JFK pulldowns. A couple of points on why these stations are getting picked on. First, according to Doug Parker, MIA and NYC in general, along with LAX, are the least profitable hubs/cornerstones in the AA network. Naturally when other hubs like CLT and DFW are more profitable, they are more likely to retain service in the event of something like this. Secondly, by going after longer stage length flights, it lessens the impact to the entire operation so the fewest number of passengers possible are affected. Just about all of the 737 cancels in JFK, save for possibly DCA and CLT, have stage lengths over three hours, and save for the Texas markets, over 5 hours. DCA is an easy pull back as well because NYC-WAS is just as easily served from LGA. (Which I know also saw a reduction in frequency, but someone may want to check to see if there was an equipment upgauge with the 190 fleet starting to be pulled back. Also, most of the affected MIA flights are also very long stage lengths as well. VVI is concerning because AA went to just a round trip here because the 757 is being migrated away from MIA and there is no other airplane that can reasonably serve LPB (Which now appears to have had more passengers than VVI)

The bottom line is NYC is always going to be a battle, and Doug Parker decided to give all the slots away to Delta years ago, so AA is just having a hard time making anything stick, and the MAX outages combined with the JFK runway issues are not helping. MIA right now is concerning. This is one of AA's bread and butter hubs historically, and for management to say its profitability is comparable to NYC and LAX is scary. But right now, AA's focus is clearly on CLT and DFW, and you can bet money they would love more DCA slots as well.
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:46 am

When you combine the fact that AAs fleet is stretched very thin because of the MAX and the runway construction, it only makes sense for AA to keep AA reduced for now. I doubt it affects any slots or anything they are doing the PANYNJ a favor by reducing flying and helping congestion.
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:05 am

apodino wrote:
HPAEAA wrote:
miaami wrote:

Looks like MIA/FLL is taking a bigger schedule hit than usual this Sep/Oct. I know the MAX is part of the equation but I can't remember AA reducing the schedules down to just one flight a day on some of these routes. Hopefully this is just temporary.


Was surprised by a few of these as well but it’s impossible to tell the reasoning, Max is likely part of it, but aa could have issues on a few fronts- deferred maintenance schedules from this summer could be catching up with them on the 738 fleet, MD80s are exiting in early September and there’s also the contract issues with the maintenance unions... given the pain of being an AA customer this summer, they probably could use a few more spares....


The MAX issues is definitely 100 percent the reason behind both the MIA and the well documented JFK pulldowns. A couple of points on why these stations are getting picked on. First, according to Doug Parker, MIA and NYC in general, along with LAX, are the least profitable hubs/cornerstones in the AA network. Naturally when other hubs like CLT and DFW are more profitable, they are more likely to retain service in the event of something like this. Secondly, by going after longer stage length flights, it lessens the impact to the entire operation so the fewest number of passengers possible are affected. Just about all of the 737 cancels in JFK, save for possibly DCA and CLT, have stage lengths over three hours, and save for the Texas markets, over 5 hours. DCA is an easy pull back as well because NYC-WAS is just as easily served from LGA. (Which I know also saw a reduction in frequency, but someone may want to check to see if there was an equipment upgauge with the 190 fleet starting to be pulled back. Also, most of the affected MIA flights are also very long stage lengths as well. VVI is concerning because AA went to just a round trip here because the 757 is being migrated away from MIA and there is no other airplane that can reasonably serve LPB (Which now appears to have had more passengers than VVI)

The bottom line is NYC is always going to be a battle, and Doug Parker decided to give all the slots away to Delta years ago, so AA is just having a hard time making anything stick, and the MAX outages combined with the JFK runway issues are not helping. MIA right now is concerning. This is one of AA's bread and butter hubs historically, and for management to say its profitability is comparable to NYC and LAX is scary. But right now, AA's focus is clearly on CLT and DFW, and you can bet money they would love more DCA slots as well.


I'm surprised MIA isn't more profitable. Wasn't MIA one of the most profitable hubs about 10 years ago?
 
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Re: OAG Changes 7/14/2019:AA Extends JFK Cuts,Adds DFW-GYE/UIO;FI Makes PHL Seasonal;EK Reduces EWR

Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:25 pm

Aliqiout wrote:
EvanWSFO wrote:
AirFiero wrote:

So how’s that SFO hub going for AS? ;)


SFO has always been a seasonal airport. As enilria points out further down, these numbers are similar to last year.

Last years numbers are in the original post. You quoted them.


I think you misquoted me. I didn't post the numbers.
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Re: OAG Changes 7/14/2019:AA Extends JFK Cuts,Adds DFW-GYE/UIO;FI Makes PHL Seasonal;EK Reduces EWR

Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:14 pm

What's the reason for the nonstop EWR-DXB reduction?
 
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Re: OAG Changes 7/14/2019:AA Extends JFK Cuts,Adds DFW-GYE/UIO;FI Makes PHL Seasonal;EK Reduces EWR

Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:21 pm

Ionosphere wrote:
apodino wrote:
HPAEAA wrote:

Was surprised by a few of these as well but it’s impossible to tell the reasoning, Max is likely part of it, but aa could have issues on a few fronts- deferred maintenance schedules from this summer could be catching up with them on the 738 fleet, MD80s are exiting in early September and there’s also the contract issues with the maintenance unions... given the pain of being an AA customer this summer, they probably could use a few more spares....


The MAX issues is definitely 100 percent the reason behind both the MIA and the well documented JFK pulldowns. A couple of points on why these stations are getting picked on. First, according to Doug Parker, MIA and NYC in general, along with LAX, are the least profitable hubs/cornerstones in the AA network. Naturally when other hubs like CLT and DFW are more profitable, they are more likely to retain service in the event of something like this. Secondly, by going after longer stage length flights, it lessens the impact to the entire operation so the fewest number of passengers possible are affected. Just about all of the 737 cancels in JFK, save for possibly DCA and CLT, have stage lengths over three hours, and save for the Texas markets, over 5 hours. DCA is an easy pull back as well because NYC-WAS is just as easily served from LGA. (Which I know also saw a reduction in frequency, but someone may want to check to see if there was an equipment upgauge with the 190 fleet starting to be pulled back. Also, most of the affected MIA flights are also very long stage lengths as well. VVI is concerning because AA went to just a round trip here because the 757 is being migrated away from MIA and there is no other airplane that can reasonably serve LPB (Which now appears to have had more passengers than VVI)

The bottom line is NYC is always going to be a battle, and Doug Parker decided to give all the slots away to Delta years ago, so AA is just having a hard time making anything stick, and the MAX outages combined with the JFK runway issues are not helping. MIA right now is concerning. This is one of AA's bread and butter hubs historically, and for management to say its profitability is comparable to NYC and LAX is scary. But right now, AA's focus is clearly on CLT and DFW, and you can bet money they would love more DCA slots as well.


I'm surprised MIA isn't more profitable. Wasn't MIA one of the most profitable hubs about 10 years ago?


I can’t speak to which hub is more profitable, but AA’s domestic flying is by far its most profitable sector. That said, AA’s Latin flying is very profitable as well. Europe is a mixed bag and AA’s Asia network is a money pit.

Don’t know how that translates to the specific hubs.
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