CWL757
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Any info on this 77W?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:42 pm

I was just casually looking at aircraft for sale and came across this 77W. Any information about it? Looks like it’s an AA bird.
Link to listing- https://www.controller.com/listings/air ... -777-300er
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:53 pm

CWL757 wrote:
I was just casually looking at aircraft for sale and came across this 77W. Any information about it? Looks like it’s an AA bird.
Link to listing- https://www.controller.com/listings/air ... -777-300er
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The picture is definitely a stock photograph of the pre-delivery AA birds, however with only 275 seats as listed, the advertisement seems to point to a Cathay Pacific airplane.Just my 2 cents.
 
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:02 pm

TEBfan wrote:
The picture is definitely a stock photograph of the pre-delivery AA birds, however with only 275 seats as listed, the advertisement seems to point to a Cathay Pacific airplane.Just my 2 cents.


Could be CX's B-KPW? It's not currently showing up on searches, and a odd registration?
 
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:05 pm

How would a 2011 77W with less than 4000 cycles from a first rate carrier like CX end up on some aircraft listing page?

Doubt it's KPW, She flew on June 24th JFK-YVR-HKG, I suspect she's in maintenance.
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:24 pm

Most likely B-KPT, appears to be in Xiamen. Photo is definitely different aircraft prior to delivery to AA.
 
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:26 pm

B-KPJ should he next to go... Not B-KPT
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:08 am

85 million.. I wonder how negotiable the price is.. I would imagine Boeing is sending out brand new 777Ws for not much more than this. Side note only a 2011, I thought Standard leases on new aircraft were usually at least 10 years..
 
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:51 pm

Seems like it would be unlikely for this to be a CX aircraft due to the presence of a SATCOM dome at the front. CX have no 77W with the front SATCOM dome, and it seems unlikely that one would be installed.
 
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:02 pm

Weird my guess would be N7773A, but this is a non-ER so thats weird. Also this plane is 10 years older than advertised and has probably a lot more cycles.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... g/wRxLCWgL
 
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:19 pm

GE90man wrote:
Seems like it would be unlikely for this to be a CX aircraft due to the presence of a SATCOM dome at the front. CX have no 77W with the front SATCOM dome, and it seems unlikely that one would be installed.


It’s a stock photo of an AA 77W prior to tail painting, not the plane in question.
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:27 pm

Only CX aircraft that I see it could be is B-KPW, hasn’t flown since 6/24
 
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:40 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
Only CX aircraft that I see it could be is B-KPW, hasn’t flown since 6/24


Could be maintenance, seem weird to retire an 8 year old plane when you've much older models in your fleet.

Are these kind of website trustworthy? Seems like a shady advertisement to say the least.
 
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:25 pm

scbriml wrote:
GE90man wrote:
Seems like it would be unlikely for this to be a CX aircraft due to the presence of a SATCOM dome at the front. CX have no 77W with the front SATCOM dome, and it seems unlikely that one would be installed.


It’s a stock photo of an AA 77W prior to tail painting, not the plane in question.

ah that makes sense
 
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:25 pm

The engines also give away the former operator. Specifically the “L2” in GE90-115BL2.

This FADEC rating was specifically designed for Cathay Pacific, for use in their JNB operations. A thrust bump for high elevation airports.

“L1” is the most common thrust bump option. Envelope: -2000ft to 3000ft pressure altitude and OAT 32C to 52C.
Optioned by EK/QR/EY/UA etc.

“L2” is the high altitude airport thrust bump option. Envelope: 4000ft to 9500ft pressure altitude (e.g. JNB), and OAT 14C to 32C. So far, only optioned by CX.
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:01 am

Qantas744er wrote:
The engines also give away the former operator. Specifically the “L2” in GE90-115BL2.

This FADEC rating was specifically designed for Cathay Pacific, for use in their JNB operations. A thrust bump for high elevation airports.

“L1” is the most common thrust bump option. Envelope: -2000ft to 3000ft pressure altitude and OAT 32C to 52C.
Optioned by EK/QR/EY/UA etc.

“L2” is the high altitude airport thrust bump option. Envelope: 4000ft to 9500ft pressure altitude (e.g. JNB), and OAT 14C to 32C. So far, only optioned by CX.

Not to mention the seat count also coincides CX's four class config before the Y class densification.

I bet my 1c on CX.

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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:51 am

It's N7773A which is with CSDS Aircraft Sales & Leasing.

Ex Singapore Airlines (9V-SYG) - Delivered back in 09/10/2001

The aircraft is withdrawn from service this year in Feb 2019
 
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:06 am

LHR01 wrote:
It's N7773A which is with CSDS Aircraft Sales & Leasing.

Ex Singapore Airlines (9V-SYG) - Delivered back in 09/10/2001

The aircraft is withdrawn from service this year in Feb 2019

Not with two GE90-115B engines and the prominent wingtip.

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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:52 am

CWL757 wrote:
I was just casually looking at aircraft for sale and came across this 77W. Any information about it?


Why not simply phone Benedict Sirimanne and ask?
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:16 pm

How does that website even work?

Certainly looks like an CX bird to me, and if it had 275 seats as some said unthread then that how many CX had on their 4 class aircraft when they were 9 abreast in Y.

CX have withdrawn a few 77Ws (5?)in the last year or so.
 
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:41 pm

ZK-NBT wrote:
How does that website even work?

Certainly looks like an CX bird to me, and if it had 275 seats as some said unthread then that how many CX had on their 4 class aircraft when they were 9 abreast in Y.

CX have withdrawn a few 77Ws (5?)in the last year or so.

Steve tells us:

scbriml wrote:
GE90man wrote:
Seems like it would be unlikely for this to be a CX aircraft due to the presence of a SATCOM dome at the front. CX have no 77W with the front SATCOM dome, and it seems unlikely that one would be installed.


It’s a stock photo of an AA 77W prior to tail painting, not the plane in question.
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:29 pm

It's an old pic of N719AN before delivery..... Someone has removed the reg on this pic for some reason.
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:09 pm

Revelation wrote:
ZK-NBT wrote:
How does that website even work?

Certainly looks like an CX bird to me, and if it had 275 seats as some said unthread then that how many CX had on their 4 class aircraft when they were 9 abreast in Y.

CX have withdrawn a few 77Ws (5?)in the last year or so.

Steve tells us:

scbriml wrote:
GE90man wrote:
Seems like it would be unlikely for this to be a CX aircraft due to the presence of a SATCOM dome at the front. CX have no 77W with the front SATCOM dome, and it seems unlikely that one would be installed.


It’s a stock photo of an AA 77W prior to tail painting, not the plane in question.


Interesting, it says on the site though 275 seats which to me indicates CX, I thought AA’s 77Ws were delivered slightly later? The SATCOM dome maybe a give away however those colours look very much like the old CX scheme.
 
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:17 pm

LHR01 wrote:
It's N7773A which is with CSDS Aircraft Sales & Leasing.

Ex Singapore Airlines (9V-SYG) - Delivered back in 09/10/2001

The aircraft is withdrawn from service this year in Feb 2019


No, that's a 773, not a 77W. N7773A was delivered to SQ in 2001 and is being part-out at KSFB. The plane in question was built in 2011.
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Re: Any info on this 77W?

Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:50 am

ikolkyo wrote:
Only CX aircraft that I see it could be is B-KPW, hasn’t flown since 6/24


Just to update this thread, B-KPW is currently operating to ORD as CX806.

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