I was surprised to see Hawaiian Airlines (HA) begin service to Orlando (MCO) starting on August 6, 2019.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_H ... stinations

Yes, I know Wikipedia is not the most reliable of sources.

I did my due diligence and searched through several sites and did not find any news. I even checked dates via a GDS.

Does anyone have any info?

Not a chance in h*ll, outside of one-off charter operations

AA623BDLSJU wrote:

I was surprised to see Hawaiian Airlines (HA) begin service to Orlando (MCO) starting on August 6, 2019.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_H ... stinations

Yes, I know Wikipedia is not the most reliable of sources.

I did my due diligence and searched through several sites and did not find any news. I even checked dates via a GDS.

Does anyone have any info?

Jetblue codeshare with a stop in JFK is what you’re seeing, I think.

I see Ontario, Oakland and Osaka. No Orlando.

Hah!

And as soon as I made the post, the entry in Wikipedia was removed.

Moderators...you are more than welcome to remove the post.

It's been removed from Wikipedia shortly after I made the post.

There goes my street cred. LOL

a318 wrote:

I see Ontario, Oakland and Osaka. No Orlando.

Interesting that it has ONT in the list, HAL stopped serving ONT late 2004.

BoeingGuy wrote:

FX1816 wrote:

a318 wrote:

I see Ontario, Oakland and Osaka. No Orlando.

Interesting that it has ONT in the list, HAL stopped serving ONT late 2004.

It’s clearly shown as a discontinued destination. Surprised it was that long ago though.

Who knows, if the economy stays on the up and up maybe HA finds it worthwhile to deploy a 21N to serve the Inland Empire. Or perhaps WN once the Sad MAX debacle is sorted out.

77H

MCO would be a long flight for HA. Not sure how much traffic there is between the two sun destinations though...

BoeingGuy wrote:

FX1816 wrote:

a318 wrote:

I see Ontario, Oakland and Osaka. No Orlando.

Interesting that it has ONT in the list, HAL stopped serving ONT late 2004.

It’s clearly shown as a discontinued destination. Surprised it was that long ago though.

You're right, the computer I was using at the time didn't have any of the markings showing active or discontinued.

MCO is a no-go on a regular basis for many (obvious?) reasons...but it's not like Pualani completely ignores the Sunshine State; she visits from time to time on sports charters, or for maintenance/livery painting in Jacksonville!

AA623BDLSJU wrote:

I was surprised to see Hawaiian Airlines (HA) begin service to Orlando (MCO) starting on August 6, 2019.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_H ... stinations

Yes, I know Wikipedia is not the most reliable of sources.

I did my due diligence and searched through several sites and did not find any news. I even checked dates via a GDS.

Does anyone have any info?

You do realize Wiki is not a credible source.

AA623BDLSJU wrote:

It's been removed from Wikipedia shortly after I made the post.

There goes my street cred. LOL

Your street cred was gone the instant you cited Wikipedia as a "source."

Ishrion wrote:

Actually I find the Wiki to be pretty accurate about 95% of the time. Sure, there's random stuff in there from time to time

But it's that 5% of random stuff that people pull out of their butts that makes Wikipedia a problematic source. It's fine if one understands that one needs to check the sources cited for verification, but most people don't get that.

Ishrion wrote:

Boof02671 wrote:

AA623BDLSJU wrote:

I was surprised to see Hawaiian Airlines (HA) begin service to Orlando (MCO) starting on August 6, 2019.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_H ... stinations

Yes, I know Wikipedia is not the most reliable of sources.

I did my due diligence and searched through several sites and did not find any news. I even checked dates via a GDS.

Does anyone have any info?

You do realize Wiki is not a credible source.

Actually I find the Wiki to be pretty accurate about 95% of the time. Sure, there's random stuff in there from time to time (WN at DFW) but it's great for looking at routes and destinations.

I actually saw that AA would go mainline on DFW-Key West thanks to the Wiki. And sure enough, after checking aa.com, it was upgauged to an A319.

Yes, the Wiki is not a valid source, which is why it's best to recheck using official sites.

You cannot use Wiki as a source in papers for college.

From Wiki itself

“Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone at any time. This means that any information it contains at any particular time could be vandalism, a work in progress, or just plain wrong. Biographies of living persons, subjects that happen to be in the news, and politically or culturally contentious topics are especially vulnerable to these issues. Edits on Wikipedia that are in error may eventually be fixed. However, because Wikipedia is a volunteer run project, it cannot monitor every contribution all of the time. There are many errors that remain unnoticed for days, weeks, months, or even years. Therefore, Wikipedia should not be considered a definitive source in and of itself.”

Boof02671 wrote:

Ishrion wrote:

Boof02671 wrote:

You do realize Wiki is not a credible source.

Actually I find the Wiki to be pretty accurate about 95% of the time. Sure, there's random stuff in there from time to time (WN at DFW) but it's great for looking at routes and destinations.

I actually saw that AA would go mainline on DFW-Key West thanks to the Wiki. And sure enough, after checking aa.com, it was upgauged to an A319.

Yes, the Wiki is not a valid source, which is why it's best to recheck using official sites.

You cannot use Wiki as a source in papers for college.

From Wiki itself

“Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone at any time. This means that any information it contains at any particular time could be vandalism, a work in progress, or just plain wrong. Biographies of living persons, subjects that happen to be in the news, and politically or culturally contentious topics are especially vulnerable to these issues. Edits on Wikipedia that are in error may eventually be fixed. However, because Wikipedia is a volunteer run project, it cannot monitor every contribution all of the time. There are many errors that remain unnoticed for days, weeks, months, or even years. Therefore, Wikipedia should not be considered a definitive source in and of itself.”

Wiki is not reliable: Why you ask? Because there is one guy responsible for over 3 million entries on it, this man, who I believe he is trying to help in his heart - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meet-the-m ... wikipedia/

I seriously want to ban the use of wikipedia to start threads on this site. This is not a reflection, in my mind on the user & more on the source. Quite frankly remember the before times (Pre-Wikipedia) & lots of what I have read there has busted me up, some has been spot on accurate, but the largest category is, "Oh man, that's sad what people are taking for truth".

We as a community need to tell the Mods how you feel about the Wikipedia subject, if you feel anything at all. I have considered asking how my peers here felt about Wikipedia, so it's out there now. I usually gloss over Wikipedia based articles, but after living & selling travel in Hawaii before, I love seeing how a thread like this goes. Unless a lot changed, most Hawaiians who love Disney, go to Ko'Olina & get Kama'aina rates or they stop in California for a few days, enroute to Vegas.

RWA380 wrote:

I seriously want to ban the use of wikipedia to start threads on this site. This is not a reflection, in my mind on the user & more on the source. Quite frankly remember the before times (Pre-Wikipedia) & lots of what I have read there has busted me up, some has been spot on accurate, but the largest category is, "Oh man, that's sad what people are taking for truth".

We as a community need to tell the Mods how you feel about the Wikipedia subject, if you feel anything at all. I have considered asking how my peers here felt about Wikipedia, so it's out there now.

Lots of what gets posted in this forum wouldn't pass muster in an 8th grade English class. It isn't - largely - a function of people who don't have English as a first language. It's poor understanding of proper research and formation of an argument.

I heard that... You heard that from whom? Why do you think that's an informed, credible source?

Rumours... 'Nuf said.

I read that... You read it where? Give a link and a specific citation.

Carrier XX is bigger... Bigger by what measure, flights, aircraft, seats, passengers, revenue, employee count, Revenue Passenger Miles...? Give a link to a source for any assertion that is not near-universally accepted by this audience. Neo has better fuel burn... Show the chart and list the parameters used to develop the chart comparison.

Successful theses - intellectually-founded arguments - rely on cited, reliable sources, a statement coherent with ALL known facts, and on reason. Too much here is like children arguing about what's the best color.