RCS763AV
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Avianca Holdings Network Thread

Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:57 pm

After the initial route cuts announced a couple of months ago, Avianca Holdings has announced several network changes in the past few weeks. Here is a recount of the past weeks' announcements:

Central America:

Return of TGU-SAP 1 daily rotation with ATR-72. Already in operation.

Increased frequency on SAL-LAX from 21 to 27 weekly flights. Operated by A319, effective August 1st, 2019.

Colombia:

- Domestic

Increased frequency on BOG-MDE, with 5 extra daily flights for up to 36 daily flights, op by A32S.

Increased frequency on BOG-CLO, with 5 extra daily flights for up to 32 daily flights, op by A32S.

Increased frequency by Regional Express form 2x to 5x daily. However, it seems A32S service has been cut to the capital of the Huila department, meaning a big drop in capacity (they would send A319/19/20 up to 5x daily last year to NVA). Already in operation.

Increased frequency on BOG-IBE going from 3 to 4 daily rotations, all on Regional Express ATR-72. Already in operation.

Increased frequency on BOG-PPN going from 3 to 4 daily rotations, all on Regional Express ATR-72. Already in operation.

Increased frequency on CLO-PSO going from 1 to 2 daily rotations, all on Regional Express ATR-72. Already in operation.

New service BOG-TCO, 1 daily Regional Express ATR-72, effective August 1st, 2019.

New service BGA-CTG, 8 weekly flights (1 daily plus an extra rotation on Sundays), Regional Express ATR-72, effective August, 16, 2019.

New service BGA-CUC, 10 weekly flights (two daily return flights on weekdays), Regional Express ATR-72, effective August, 16, 2019.

New service BGA-SMR, 1 daily Regional Express ATR-72, effective August, 16, 2019.

Service cut, CLO-BAQ, 1 to 0 daily, route suspended on October 1st, 2019.

Routes from Medellín-Olaya Herrera Airport: the airline has stated that it will soon announce several routes by Regional Express which will operate from Medellín's regional airport.

- International

Increased frequency on BOG-GYE, from 3x to 4x daily, effective August 8, 2019.

Peru:

No news still. However, rumor has it a new mid/long-haul route will be announced from LIM soon.

Sources:

https://www.valoraanalitik.com/2019/07/19/avianca-aumenta-capacidad-en-algunos-mercados-pero-tambien-ajustara-rutas-en-colombia/
https://www.wradio.com.co/noticias/actualidad/aerolinea-regional-de-avianca-confirmo-que-aumentara-vuelos-hacia-algunas-zonas-del-pais/20190711/nota/3926055.aspx
https://www.dinero.com/empresas/articulo/como-quedaron-las-rutas-de-avianca/274430

Please feel free to post/add any new route announcements/cuts/modifications you might find. A lot of changes are coming to AV Holdings and this is a nice opportunity to keep track of what's going on.
 
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Re: Avianca Holdings Network Thread

Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:01 pm

Well, it will be interesting to see what the new CEO does. Their network planning team has been sleeping on the wheel that led to such poor financial performance. If I was the new CEO, I would replace the whole lot! Have a feeling we will be seeing many more changes.

Saludos,
Alex
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Re: Avianca Holdings Network Thread

Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:16 pm

How about retiming the BAQ to MIA flight back to its traditional times ? What brilliant genius came up with a 0300 AM departure from BAQ to MIA ? A Transylvanian ? A vampire.
 
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Re: Avianca Holdings Network Thread

Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:41 pm

jfk777 wrote:
How about retiming the BAQ to MIA flight back to its traditional times ? What brilliant genius came up with a 0300 AM departure from BAQ to MIA ? A Transylvanian ? A vampire.

Probably allows for better aircraft utilization. Airlines don't usually do that just to sc*ew passengers.
 
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Re: Avianca Holdings Network Thread

Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:53 pm

Rumor has it GUA-JFK is coming back in October as well. I imagine further network changes will come in the coming weeks.
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Re: Avianca Holdings Network Thread

Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:52 pm

Glad to see the fourth frequency from LAX - SAL and the A319 return. Though, they should have restored it to its original morning departure time (07:30) then putting it at late-night (01:30) with their other two late-night flights with one of them leaving at the exact same time. I mentioned putting the flight in the morning since my family used to take this flight to SAL than the late nights since it was a hassle with traffic getting to LAX, the long lines at the check-in at T2 and now T3 that are infamous to most who've flown from there.

The morning flight was more than manageable, no traffic getting to LAX, the lines were normal, the agents were welcoming and weren't trying to choke us alive :lol:

I hope it's just a timing issue where the A319 is needed elsewhere in the network, instead of mismanagement from the planners.
 
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Re: Avianca Holdings Network Thread

Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:03 am

MalevTU134 wrote:
jfk777 wrote:
How about retiming the BAQ to MIA flight back to its traditional times ? What brilliant genius came up with a 0300 AM departure from BAQ to MIA ? A Transylvanian ? A vampire.

Probably allows for better aircraft utilization. Airlines don't usually do that just to sc*ew passengers.


Miami to Barranquilla didn't become a "bad" route all of a sudden, AV has flown it for decades with 707, 720, 727-100, 727-200, 757-200, 747-100, Md-83 and various A320's. Pan AM, Eastern and AA has represented the US side. Avianca can find an A320 from all the domestic flights it has, if it choices not to that is a por choice.
 
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Re: Avianca Holdings Network Thread

Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:10 am

RCS763AV wrote:
RCS763AV wrote:
abrelosojos wrote:
Well, it will be interesting to see what the new CEO does. Their network planning team has been sleeping on the wheel that led to such poor financial performance. If I was the new CEO, I would replace the whole lot! Have a feeling we will be seeing many more changes.

Saludos,
Alex


Truth is corrective actions to Efromovich's erratic network growth started being taken before Van der Werff came in as CEO. However, he is very experienced and I believe that once the airline is back on the black we'll see some interesting new adds. More shuffling around rather than adding new destinations is what I see happening in the short term though.

SAL is losing yet another Colombian destination from its network. On top of the already cut CTG and CLO, MDE is also losing service from SAL on August 1st, 2019.
 
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Re: Avianca Holdings Network Thread

Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:17 am

jfk777 wrote:
MalevTU134 wrote:
jfk777 wrote:
How about retiming the BAQ to MIA flight back to its traditional times ? What brilliant genius came up with a 0300 AM departure from BAQ to MIA ? A Transylvanian ? A vampire.

Probably allows for better aircraft utilization. Airlines don't usually do that just to sc*ew passengers.


Miami to Barranquilla didn't become a "bad" route all of a sudden, AV has flown it for decades with 707, 720, 727-100, 727-200, 757-200, 747-100, Md-83 and various A320's. Pan AM, Eastern and AA has represented the US side. Avianca can find an A320 from all the domestic flights it has, if it choices not to that is a por choice.


Well, all those A320 that are flying domestic flights, are probably doing much more money than the BAQ-MIA flight. The airline has the way to prove it, if they had the old timings financials performance and the new timings, they can see what profitability is the route having. For sure is a route that is not in the top of priorities for the airline. Avianca's domestic network is very profitable and they need to take care of that, now more than ever, with the amount of flights the competitors are adding.
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Re: Avianca Holdings Network Thread

Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:10 pm

Avianca just changed the timings on BAQ-MIA last week. AV 002 now departs BAQ at 07:05 and arrives MIA at 10:55.
 
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Re: Avianca Holdings Network Thread

Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:34 pm

OB1504 wrote:
Avianca just changed the timings on BAQ-MIA last week. AV 002 now departs BAQ at 07:05 and arrives MIA at 10:55.


slightly worse then when it was 0800 but far better then 0300, what happened to 1100 ?
 
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Re: Avianca Holdings Network Thread

Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:03 pm

Avianca Holdings, following the demise of AV Brasil, has started a wide interline agreement with Azul to access the brazilian market:

https://www.valoraanalitik.com/2019/07/24/avianca-firmo-alianza-con-azul-la-mayor-aerolinea-de-brasil/
 
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Re: Avianca Holdings Network Thread

Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:18 pm

I created a thread about Avianca -coded flight numbers placed on United’s San Francisco – Sydney route, just to add to the Avianca Holdings thread

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