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NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:52 pm

Thunderstorms moving through NYc at the moment. Impacting the evening international arrival bank.


JFK-intended Arrival
-Divert BOS
JL 4 (NRT)
VS 9 (LHR)
B6 958 (AUA)
B6 662 (BGI)
FI 615 (KEF)
IB 6253 (MAD)

-Divert SWF
LY 7 (TLV)


-Divert BWI
AA 1199 (MIA- B772)
B6 422 (NAS)
DL 722 (AUA)

-Divert IAD
EK 205 (MXP)


EWR-intended arrivals

-Divert BOS
VS 1 (LHR)
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:02 pm

JFK, EWR, and LGA are all completely shut down. I have family on UA2319 from SFO due in about 4 hours, and I'm supposed to meet them at Newark. A diversion is looking more and more likely. It's gonna be a long night!
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:09 pm

It is supposed to continue for at least another hour, with lightning strikes everywhere. Ethiopian 512 is trying to land at JFK, they are in a low fuel situation, with really nowhere to go.
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:11 pm

I haven't seen it this bad in a very long time. I'm counting at least 30 diversions so far.
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:19 pm

PIT
DL1258 A333 LAX-JFK
UA1552 A320 PHX-EWR
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:23 pm

asuflyer wrote:
It is supposed to continue for at least another hour, with lightning strikes everywhere. Ethiopian 512 is trying to land at JFK, they are in a low fuel situation, with really nowhere to go.


Landed safely...
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:29 pm

PHL

BA113 B772 LHR-JFK
IB6253 A359 MAD-JFK
EI109 A333 DUB-JFK

BTV

UA69 B752 ARN-EWR

YUL

FI623 B753 BOS-EWR
LH412 A359 MUC-EWR

BOS

AT200 B789 CMN-JFK
DY7005 B788 ARN-JFK
VS1 A333 LHR-JFK
AA107 B77W LHR-JFK
LV9 A332 ORY-EWR
LO17 A343 RZE-EWR
FI615 B753 KEF-JFK
BA2273 B772 LGW-JFK
DL467 A333 TLV-JFK
VS9 A346 LHR-JFK
JL4 B77W NRT-JFK
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:31 pm

IB 6253 is now diverting to PHL instead of BOS. AF10 is doing a hold that’s 50NM long between PVD and BOS.
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:43 pm

CO764 wrote:
JFK, EWR, and LGA are all completely shut down. I have family on UA2319 from SFO due in about 4 hours, and I'm supposed to meet them at Newark. A diversion is looking more and more likely. It's gonna be a long night!


They will most likely come to IAD. Looking at FR24, most UA flights from the south and the west are diverting to IAD. Most of IAD's international arrivals were in holding patterns before landing to handle the extra aircraft. Dulles is currently taking a good amount of diversions, but it's supposed to storm here later, so we'll see what pans out.

Currently, no aircraft heading into IAD are diverting. RAM218 from Casablanca, UA933 from Frankfurt, and TAP231 from Lisbon are all landing normally.
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:10 am

SYR

DL 2836 DEN-JFK B739
B6 224 LAX-JFK A321
UA 2214 DEN-LGA A320
UA 1537 LAS-EWR B738
DL 1965 DEN-LGA B738
UA 2304 LAX-EWR B752
F9 502 DEN-LGA A320
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:19 am

I boarded dl888 Bos-jfk at around 4 and captain came on and said never mind everyone back to the terminal this will be at least a couple hours. I was able to jump on the flight next door to SLC (I’m heading to SAN). terminal A gates in BOS have a ton of stranded and super delayed NYC bound passengers. Many on my original flight were bound for europe
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:19 am

IAD
B6882 SVF-JFK

Watching KX792 GCM-JFK now.

UA is putting diverted EWR passengers onto buses and driving them up to EWR.
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:04 am

asuflyer05 wrote:
IAD
B6882 SVF-JFK

Watching KX792 GCM-JFK now.

UA is putting diverted EWR passengers onto buses and driving them up to EWR.


KX792 is now at IAD, as is UA1043 from AUA (EWR divert).
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:04 am

Looks like ewr is open..... Dy7193 just passed over the house. No holding pattern
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:05 am

asuflyer05 wrote:
IAD
B6882 SVF-JFK

Watching KX792 GCM-JFK now.

UA is putting diverted EWR passengers onto buses and driving them up to EWR.

From IAD?
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:34 am

LH404, DY7021, and KL643 went to BGR. I’m surprised they couldn’t make it to BOS or IAD, although the path to IAD would require a massive detour...gas and go?

AV570, which would RON at JFK, has not departed.
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:43 am

DL2421 LAS-JFK B739 diverted to PVD
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:45 am

BGR:
DL9901 (VCE-JFK, 763)
LH404 (FRA-JFK, 748)
UA2821 (LHR-EWR, 752)
LV9 (ORY-EWR, A332)
DY7021 (CDG-EWR, 789)
LH420 (FRA-BOS, A333)
LO26 (WAW-JFK, A343)
KL643 (AMS-JFK, A333)
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:48 am

SWF:
UA18 MXP-EWR
UA121 BCN-EWR

Both in the air to EWR now
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:55 am

ALB:
UA753 SFO-EWR
UA577 SFO-EWR
DL455 SLC-JFK
DL1724 SLC-EWR
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:56 am

EWR had diversions as far west as CLE, as far north to YUL and BGR, south to BWI and IAD. Diversions throughout Pennsylvania, NY state, and BOS.
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:08 am

PWM:
B61112 (CUR-JFK, A320)
B61148 (PAP-BOS, A320)
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:15 am

aemoreira1981 wrote:
LH404, DY7021, and KL643 went to BGR. I’m surprised they couldn’t make it to BOS or IAD, although the path to IAD would require a massive detour...gas and go?


Maybe because BOS is too crowded with other diversions??
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:16 am

33lspotter wrote:
BGR:

LH420 (FRA-BOS, A333)


Why did this flight to BOS divert to BGR?
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:31 am

CO764 wrote:
I haven't seen it this bad in a very long time. I'm counting at least 30 diversions so far.


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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:31 am

AS512 LAX-EWR diverted to BDL.
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:37 am

ALB:
DL1724 SLC-EWR (B739)
UA753 SFO-EWR (B752)
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:39 am

WN1268 DEN-EWR (B738) diverted to ROC.
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:50 am

AA 4115 BGR-LGA went to PVD
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:53 am

Lot with an A343?

LOT doesn’t fly the A343

https://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/LOT ... rlines.htm
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:08 am

CO764 wrote:
I haven't seen it this bad in a very long time. I'm counting at least 30 diversions so far.


At least a couple of times a summer you'll see this number of diversions.

Boof02671 wrote:
Lot with an A343?

LOT doesn’t fly the A343

https://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/LOT ... rlines.htm


LO are using an Air Belgium A343 in place of their 787s.
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:11 am

DTWLAX wrote:
aemoreira1981 wrote:
LH404, DY7021, and KL643 went to BGR. I’m surprised they couldn’t make it to BOS or IAD, although the path to IAD would require a massive detour...gas and go?


Maybe because BOS is too crowded with other diversions??

This is exactly it. BOS got so crowded they were parking planes on Runway 4L until gates opened up. The airport reached near gridlock.
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:12 am

Boof02671 wrote:
Lot with an A343?

LOT doesn’t fly the A343

https://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/LOT ... rlines.htm


That would be Air Belgium, with OO-ABD (ex-OH-LQD)...operating under a LOT callsign to account for grounded B788s.
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:18 am

apodino wrote:
DTWLAX wrote:
aemoreira1981 wrote:
LH404, DY7021, and KL643 went to BGR. I’m surprised they couldn’t make it to BOS or IAD, although the path to IAD would require a massive detour...gas and go?


Maybe because BOS is too crowded with other diversions??

This is exactly it. BOS got so crowded they were parking planes on Runway 4L until gates opened up. The airport reached near gridlock.


PVD almost always seems to get far fewer diversions than it can handle. There were about 12 empty gates even after they received the 2 diversions they got. I wonder why that is?
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:21 am

Diversions to BUF, from what I can find:

UA 2337 LAS-EWR B738
WN 1757 DEN-LGA B737
LL 586 CRW-JFK B738
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:09 am

PVD757 wrote:
PVD almost always seems to get far fewer diversions than it can handle. There were about 12 empty gates even after they received the 2 diversions they got. I wonder why that is?


How many of those gates are not leased to an airline? The last place you really want a diversion is on a gate. Especially a carrier that doesn’t serve the airport. First off, there’s usually jetbridge and aircraft door training required. But most importantly, once the plane goes to a gate, pax want off, crews time out, etc. Then you’ve got a plane stuck on a gate, and no gate for scheduled service. Unless there’s a pressing need for a gate, diversions go faster when the plane is parked on the ramp for a “gas and go”. As for why PVD doesn’t get many diversions, it could be many reasons, such as a FBO that charges exorbitant rates, or lack of off terminal space and equipment.
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:33 am

len90 wrote:
EWR had diversions as far west as CLE, as far north to YUL and BGR, south to BWI and IAD. Diversions throughout Pennsylvania, NY state, and BOS.


Change that Western City to ORD - 5 Diversions from EWR that I know of... All United...
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:36 pm

2 UA widebodies came to CLE, 921, a 764 from LHR, and 50, a 77W from MAD.
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:28 pm

UA also had the following diversions into BOS:
UA87 PVG-EWR B777
UA503 SFO-EWR B777
UA961 FRA-EWR B787-10
UA609 ORD-EWR A320
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:34 pm

33lspotter wrote:
BGR:
DL9901 (VCE-JFK, 763)


Extra section?
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:53 pm

33lspotter wrote:
BGR:
DL9901 (VCE-JFK, 763)
LH404 (FRA-JFK, 748)
UA2821 (LHR-EWR, 752)
LV9 (ORY-EWR, A332)
DY7021 (CDG-EWR, 789)
LH420 (FRA-BOS, A333)
LO26 (WAW-JFK, A343)
KL643 (AMS-JFK, A333)


That's a lot of metal on the ground for an airport the size (passenger count) of Bangor. Who ordered pizza delivery?
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:00 pm

You dont want to be the 20th airplane to divert to BOS. That makes a bad situation worse.

Hence places like BGR come into play
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:09 pm

catiii wrote:
33lspotter wrote:
BGR:
DL9901 (VCE-JFK, 763)


Extra section?


More likely an ATC issue. Airlines will change the flight number to a 9000 number for ATC to avoid confusion if a similar or same flight number exists at another airline at a similar time.
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:19 pm

ROC appears to have had the following:


UA3837 ORD-HPN
WN1268 DEN-EWR

There were several aircraft holding over the ROC VOR for about 45 minutes yesterday afternoon, and I’m surprised we only ended up with 2 diversions. It’s funny- I don’t ever remember before this year aircraft holding over ROC, normally it was always SYR or BGM- but this is the third time in the last month I’ve noticed it.
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:19 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
33lspotter wrote:
BGR:
DL9901 (VCE-JFK, 763)
LH404 (FRA-JFK, 748)
UA2821 (LHR-EWR, 752)
LV9 (ORY-EWR, A332)
DY7021 (CDG-EWR, 789)
LH420 (FRA-BOS, A333)
LO26 (WAW-JFK, A343)
KL643 (AMS-JFK, A333)


That's a lot of metal on the ground for an airport the size (passenger count) of Bangor. Who ordered pizza delivery?


I don't think any of them were on the ground more than three hours at most? All nine departed in short order by around 11pm. That was the most diversions to BGR in quite some time!

This guy was stuck on the ground on KL643 and went on a Twitter rant about lack of AC for too long (assume other aircraft were being serviced one first come basis?)

https://mobile.twitter.com/samastrauss/ ... 8673916928
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:21 pm

33lspotter wrote:
PWM:
B61112 (CUR-JFK, A320)
B61148 (PAP-BOS, A320)



Those were the first international diversions I've even noted in PWM. I've seen plenty of domestic, but never International.
 
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:57 pm

apodino wrote:
DTWLAX wrote:
aemoreira1981 wrote:
LH404, DY7021, and KL643 went to BGR. I’m surprised they couldn’t make it to BOS or IAD, although the path to IAD would require a massive detour...gas and go?


Maybe because BOS is too crowded with other diversions??

This is exactly it. BOS got so crowded they were parking planes on Runway 4L until gates opened up. The airport reached near gridlock.


I want to point out a few things, BOS took around 25 diversions, 13 were heavies. https://twitter.com/theOrangetechie/status/1153449985154912257?s=20

As you can see BOS issued notams closing part of 33L, and 4L to park all of the diversions. 4 heavies had crews time out and are still on the ground. 2x UA 772, 1x UA 787-10, 1x AA 77W

Also consider that this year BOS has had to start busing for International Arrivals and Departures, because there are simply not enough gates to go around on a good day. Also construction of the 7 gate addition to terminal E (our international terminal) has started which is being built in the locations which previously would have been used to park diversions. So in the evening there is very little space to park all of these diversions.
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:27 pm

I was under the impression that the expansion at Terminal E was going to be a two-phase project. With the need there so crucial, have they changed that or accelerated things?
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:38 pm

Web500sjc wrote:
-Divert SWF
LY 7 (TLV)


Is that common?
Never ever heard of SWF so far...
What might led LY crew to choose SWF among the other options?
What about receiving a diverted Intl flight? Such an event for them, isn't it? Or no?
Which aircraft is operating LY7?

shaq wrote:
asuflyer05 wrote:

UA is putting diverted EWR passengers onto buses and driving them up to EWR.

From IAD?


Why not?
We're talking about 4hours driving, aren't we?
I'd easily rather be on the road on a bus than stuck on tarmac or airport terminal with no clue about when I'd be able to leave.
I'm confident many travellers boarded the buses despite all the inconvencience.
And good to hear UA quickly provided that option.
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Re: NYC diversions JUL-22-2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:48 pm

EK77WNH wrote:
I was under the impression that the expansion at Terminal E was going to be a two-phase project. With the need there so crucial, have they changed that or accelerated things?


This is a question for the BOS thread, but originally it was a two phase project, but then they floated the idea of doing it in one go. I am not sure which strategy they landed on.
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