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F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:19 pm

Hot off the press, another new route for F9 at BDL, nonstop service to MIA starts 11/14/19.

Nice add for F9, good pick up of winter birds and some new competition for AA to MIA and should help bring fares down a bit I'd think.

Thoughts?

https://bradleyairport.com/2019/07/23/b ... sJIN9CZBkw
 
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:25 pm

2x weekly with an occasional 3rd weekly flight during peak weeks.

F9's south Florida strategy puzzles me... MIA, major MIA, scale back MIA, add FLL, now back to MIA growth...
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:31 pm

Interesting to see F9 building MIA back up again after drawing it down. The return to FLL seemed to spell doom for MIA, but now MIA being built-up again. FLL probably now has more F9 service than it did before the station was closed. I assumed F9 would not replicate NK routes from FLL upon returning but adding DEN and now CLE indicates otherwise.
 
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:34 pm

AA already puts some pretty cheap fares into that market, as low as $107 one way. Let's see if they boost the frequency beyond 1x 738.
 
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:11 pm

RL757PVD wrote:
2x weekly with an occasional 3rd weekly flight during peak weeks.

F9's south Florida strategy puzzles me... MIA, major MIA, scale back MIA, add FLL, now back to MIA growth...


The Frontier route planners, if you can call them that, are a category to themselves. But with that said, one can begin to see the future winter flying for F9. They have a bunch of new planes being added to the fleet over the next few years. Those aircraft need to be utilized where they can be most effective and profitable - FLORIDA.

No question that Florida is saturated with flights from nearly everywhere; but many routes command healthy, if not exorbitant fares. This may be the area where the ULCCs will make their winter dollars.

I would expect a few more Florida announcements before too long. Frontier will be adding an additional eight 320neos by the end of the year.

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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:41 pm

Frontier also adding MIA-BOS and relaunching MIA-DTW and MIA-SJU.
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:46 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
AA already puts some pretty cheap fares into that market, as low as $107 one way. Let's see if they boost the frequency beyond 1x 738.


Was 3x 727s at one time.

But I don't understand why you would increase frequency to chase bottom feeder fares.
 
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:55 pm

If F9 is focusing on MIA again with all these new planes I’d expect MIA-ALB/BUF/MDT/SYR/TTN to be announced pretty soon then as well.
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:04 pm

Good for Frontier! I flew them from PVD to Miami - great fares $100 each way and packed to the gills. Moxy might be coming too late to the secondary airports party.
 
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:09 pm

PVD-MIA averaged over 80% and they ran it DAILY Oct-April.... I cant imagine how 3-4x weekly would be anything less than 95% based on that.
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:12 pm

RL757PVD wrote:
2x weekly with an occasional 3rd weekly flight during peak weeks.

F9's south Florida strategy puzzles me... MIA, major MIA, scale back MIA, add FLL, now back to MIA growth...


I suspect Frontier’s strategy of swiftly changing routes and markets is to make it difficult for the competition to formulate and execute a response especially in more bureaucratic firms. Keeping the competition confused is a good approach.
 
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:24 pm

MO11 wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
AA already puts some pretty cheap fares into that market, as low as $107 one way. Let's see if they boost the frequency beyond 1x 738.


Was 3x 727s at one time.

But I don't understand why you would increase frequency to chase bottom feeder fares.


To chase F9 off the route and let fares return to 'normal' levels. It's a decades-old strategy.
 
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:43 pm

MAH4546 wrote:
Frontier also adding MIA-BOS and relaunching MIA-DTW and MIA-SJU.


In addition to MIA-CLE, MIA-CVG, and MIA-LAS announced last month. The Frontier website is now showing MIA-ORD and MIA-LGA coming back as well.

With these adds and resumptions, F9 will be at 12 nonstop destinations from MIA including the current routes to ATL, DEN, and PHL.

MIflyer12 wrote:
MO11 wrote:
But I don't understand why you would increase frequency to chase bottom feeder fares.


To chase F9 off the route and let fares return to 'normal' levels. It's a decades-old strategy.


AA was extremely aggressive in chasing F9 out of MIA two years ago. It wasn’t uncommon to find $25 one way fares on routes they directly competed against. Even Southwest was dropping fares as low as $25 at one point.

Perhaps F9 thinks AA is more vulnerable now with their ongoing operational and product issues.
 
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:09 pm

MAH4546 wrote:
Frontier also adding MIA-BOS and relaunching MIA-DTW and MIA-SJU.


Do you have a link? Thanks!
 
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:39 pm

DolphinAir747 wrote:
MAH4546 wrote:
Frontier also adding MIA-BOS and relaunching MIA-DTW and MIA-SJU.


Do you have a link? Thanks!


https://www.bizjournals.com/southflorid ... t-mia.html
 
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:59 pm

https://www.thenextmiami.com/frontier-w ... cord-high/

According to thenextmiami.com

FRONTIER WILL QUADRUPLE ITS MIAMI FLIGHT SCHEDULE THIS FALL, WITH MIA PASSENGER COUNT AT RECORD HIGHThe airline will add a total of 28 weekly flights and six additional routes in November, for a total weekly departures count of 57.

The new Miami schedule will include:

Hartford/Springfield (three weekly beginning November 14)
San Juan (three weekly beginning November 14)
Boston (four weekly beginning November 15)
Detroit (four weekly beginning November 15)
New York LaGuardia (daily beginning November 14)
Chicago O’Hare (daily beginning November 14)
Las Vegas (daily beginning September 10)
Cincinnati (four weekly beginning October 10)
Cleveland (four weekly beginning October 10)
 
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Re: F9 Announces BDL-MIA (Seasonal)

Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:15 pm

This is great!! American service is hardly any better than F9 in coach. It is great to see more competition in Miami and hopefully lower fares. I am always shocked at how poor service is on American out of Miami when they charge such high prices on many routes out of MIA.

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