crownvic
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Need help with this Virgin Flight

Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:01 pm

Can anyone explain this one. I know that radar glitches occur from time to time on Flightaware where a plane passes over an airport enroute somewhere and flightaware picks it up as landing or taking off from it, but is this a real departure to LGW?? I cant find the arrival anywhere??

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VIR ... /EGHQ/EGKK
 
jetwet1
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Re: Need help with this Virgin Flight

Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:11 pm

Well that's a strange one, VS flew G-VYOU down there on May 20th for scrapping, I wonder if they pulled her back out for some reason ???? Good catch.
 
CWL757
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Re: Need help with this Virgin Flight

Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:18 pm

I believe this is one of two that they are keeping as backup aircraft.
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mwhcvt
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Re: Need help with this Virgin Flight

Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:41 pm

CWL757 wrote:
I believe this is one of two that they are keeping as backup aircraft.


No doubt down to the ongoing 787 Engine issue if indeed it is a spare stored off site I’d love to know the logistics of bringing it out of storage especially when it’s stored at an airport with limited flights from any VS base, and no guarantee of availability when they need, so do they drive a flight and engineering crew down to do a preflight and then fly back

You have to think the long term parking charge must be seriously lower to justify the hassle vs parking at LGW more easily accessed by road like SOU or FAB
Must think up a new one soon, slow moving brain trying to get into gear ;)
 
hotelmode
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Re: Need help with this Virgin Flight

Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:48 pm

mwhcvt wrote:
CWL757 wrote:
I believe this is one of two that they are keeping as backup aircraft.


No doubt down to the ongoing 787 Engine issue if indeed it is a spare stored off site I’d love to know the logistics of bringing it out of storage especially when it’s stored at an airport with limited flights from any VS base, and no guarantee of availability when they need, so do they drive a flight and engineering crew down to do a preflight and then fly back

You have to think the long term parking charge must be seriously lower to justify the hassle vs parking at LGW more easily accessed by road like SOU or FAB


There are flights from Heathrow to Newquay. Operated by Flybe who are part owned by VS.

I think getting a 340 into either FAB or SOU would be impossible anyway for an airline (as opposed to Mfrs test pilot in FABs case).
 
crownvic
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Re: Need help with this Virgin Flight

Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:50 pm

jetwet1 wrote:
Well that's a strange one, VS flew G-VYOU down there on May 20th for scrapping, I wonder if they pulled her back out for some reason ???? Good catch.


Planes are scrapped in Newquy??
 
mwhcvt
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Re: Need help with this Virgin Flight

Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:04 pm

hotelmode wrote:
mwhcvt wrote:
CWL757 wrote:
I believe this is one of two that they are keeping as backup aircraft.


No doubt down to the ongoing 787 Engine issue if indeed it is a spare stored off site I’d love to know the logistics of bringing it out of storage especially when it’s stored at an airport with limited flights from any VS base, and no guarantee of availability when they need, so do they drive a flight and engineering crew down to do a preflight and then fly back

You have to think the long term parking charge must be seriously lower to justify the hassle vs parking at LGW more easily accessed by road like SOU or FAB


There are flights from Heathrow to Newquay. Operated by Flybe who are part owned by VS.

I think getting a 340 into either FAB or SOU would be impossible anyway for an airline (as opposed to Mfrs test pilot in FABs case).


Actually having looked I never realised just how short SOUs runways is, but FAB is only a couple of thousand feet short of the distance needed for an MTOW takeoff and I think we can both agreed any positioning flight in and out would be done a long way short of MTOW
Must think up a new one soon, slow moving brain trying to get into gear ;)
 
jetwet1
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Re: Need help with this Virgin Flight

Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:11 am

crownvic wrote:
jetwet1 wrote:
Well that's a strange one, VS flew G-VYOU down there on May 20th for scrapping, I wonder if they pulled her back out for some reason ???? Good catch.


Planes are scrapped in Newquy??



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bhxalex
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Re: Need help with this Virgin Flight

Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:06 am

mwhcvt wrote:
CWL757 wrote:
I believe this is one of two that they are keeping as backup aircraft.


No doubt down to the ongoing 787 Engine issue if indeed it is a spare stored off site I’d love to know the logistics of bringing it out of storage especially when it’s stored at an airport with limited flights from any VS base, and no guarantee of availability when they need, so do they drive a flight and engineering crew down to do a preflight and then fly back

You have to think the long term parking charge must be seriously lower to justify the hassle vs parking at LGW more easily accessed by road like SOU or FAB


Southampton can't take something that size so that's a non starter. Farnborough isn't exactly blessed with free apron space and outside of the air show doesn't receive anything bigger than a 320ACJ or 737BBJ, in line with local regulations I believe. So neither are suitable.
 
hotelmode
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Re: Need help with this Virgin Flight

Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:28 am

mwhcvt wrote:
hotelmode wrote:
mwhcvt wrote:

No doubt down to the ongoing 787 Engine issue if indeed it is a spare stored off site I’d love to know the logistics of bringing it out of storage especially when it’s stored at an airport with limited flights from any VS base, and no guarantee of availability when they need, so do they drive a flight and engineering crew down to do a preflight and then fly back

You have to think the long term parking charge must be seriously lower to justify the hassle vs parking at LGW more easily accessed by road like SOU or FAB


There are flights from Heathrow to Newquay. Operated by Flybe who are part owned by VS.

I think getting a 340 into either FAB or SOU would be impossible anyway for an airline (as opposed to Mfrs test pilot in FABs case).


Actually having looked I never realised just how short SOUs runways is, but FAB is only a couple of thousand feet short of the distance needed for an MTOW takeoff and I think we can both agreed any positioning flight in and out would be done a long way short of MTOW


Look at the Landing distance available not just take off.

Theres nowhere to park one anyway.
 
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Re: Need help with this Virgin Flight

Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:35 am

From the Virgin Source site...

Jul 26, 2019

Virgin Atlantic A340-600 G-VYOU, which has been in storage at Newquay since 20th May, positioned Newquay – London Gatwick as VS811P this afternoon prior to returning to service.

New life for a stored A340-600!

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