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Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:44 pm

If you don’t use Instagram you probably won’t know what’s going on but an Irish plane spotter recored a plane spotter from Barcelona throw a rock onto an active taxi way.Knowing the police in Spain I doubt they’ll investigate the guy from Barcelona unless it went viral https://twitter.com/charles022/status/1 ... 55781?s=21 also unfortunately I can’t find the video neither on twitter or Instagram but if I do I’ll post it.



Edit: here’s the video https://twitter.com/lucyisabel33/status ... 90370?s=21
 
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:28 am

They aren’t spotters, they’re vandals and criminals. They’re also stupid kids whose parents should take away their toys.
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:48 am

It's amazing (and depressing) at how different things are in countries around the world, as far as "Airport Security" goes.... Here in Louisville Kentucky USA (SDF), if you get within 15 feet of an airport fence with your camera, as far as the Airport Police are concerned, you're an ISIS Terrorist with a Stinger Missile!! I see a lot of recent pictures taken at our airport and I have to admit, I don't know how they are even possible. I've been taking pictures out there since 1988, but since 9/11/01, it's gotten really bad and I've nearly been arrested multiple times over the years. I've read that spotters/photographers can literally bring ladders and put them up against the fences so they can get clear views at Amsterdam Schiphol. THAT would get you shot dead here!! It may have something with the UPS WORLDPORT mega-hub, but I wonder. Are things that bad in Memphis with FedEx?
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:55 am

This is why the already delicate/uneasy relationship between plane spotters and security often goes downhill in an instant.
 
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:57 am

How about whoever shot the vid and posted it to maybe set the camera down and do something about it. It doesn't have to be on Twitter.

Could have been prevented. Idiots.
 
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:58 am

Planes4you wrote:
If you don’t use Instagram you probably won’t know what’s going on but an Irish plane spotter recored a plane spotter from Barcelona throw a rock onto an active taxi way.Knowing the police in Spain I doubt they’ll investigate the guy from Barcelona unless it went viral https://twitter.com/charles022/status/1 ... 55781?s=21 also unfortunately I can’t find the video neither on twitter or Instagram but if I do I’ll post it.



Edit: here’s the video https://twitter.com/lucyisabel33/status ... 90370?s=21


The event took place at REU airport, not BCN. Title should be changed accordingly.
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:42 am

These ‘spotters’ are just yobs.

Have they never heard of FOD.

Went to SDF in May 2017 and there were no problems then. Is this something new.

As for Memphis, took plenty from near the Fire Station. If I recall, someone popped in and they said it was OK.
 
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:09 am

seat1a wrote:
How about whoever shot the vid and posted it to maybe set the camera down and do something about it. It doesn't have to be on Twitter.

Could have been prevented. Idiots.


The person who recorded it was encouraging him
 
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:11 am

Embajador3 wrote:

The event took place at REU airport, not BCN. Title should be changed accordingly.



I should’ve been more specific I meant a Barcelona spotter was the one who threw It
 
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:54 am

The person who shot the video must have deleted their Instagram account. Searching that name isn’t yielding any results.
 
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:09 am

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The person who shot the video must have deleted their Instagram account. Searching that name isn’t yielding any results.


They changed their username
 
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:44 am

md11sdf wrote:
It's amazing (and depressing) at how different things are in countries around the world, as far as "Airport Security" goes.... Here in Louisville Kentucky USA (SDF), if you get within 15 feet of an airport fence with your camera, as far as the Airport Police are concerned, you're an ISIS Terrorist with a Stinger Missile!! I see a lot of recent pictures taken at our airport and I have to admit, I don't know how they are even possible. I've been taking pictures out there since 1988, but since 9/11/01, it's gotten really bad and I've nearly been arrested multiple times over the years. I've read that spotters/photographers can literally bring ladders and put them up against the fences so they can get clear views at Amsterdam Schiphol. THAT would get you shot dead here!! It may have something with the UPS WORLDPORT mega-hub, but I wonder. Are things that bad in Memphis with FedEx?


You don't even need ladders at Amsterdam. The only thing separating you from the taxiways/runways for most places are tiny waterways
https://www.spotterguide.net/planespotting/europe/netherlands/amsterdam-ams-eham-2/

Spotting is well understood and welcomed in Europe. Some airports, even major ones, build hills and metal structures so spotters can get clear views over perimeter fences.

Spotters are seen as an asset for airport security, not a threat, a mentality that works for everyone involved. At least where I'm from we have been mainting this relationship for years.
 
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:14 am

One of the account names has been changed, ironically enough, to @theairportlover3. As someone involved in that community, it hurts that people need reminding to respect airports and laws.
 
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:07 am

MoonC wrote:
md11sdf wrote:
It's amazing (and depressing) at how different things are in countries around the world, as far as "Airport Security" goes.... Here in Louisville Kentucky USA (SDF), if you get within 15 feet of an airport fence with your camera, as far as the Airport Police are concerned, you're an ISIS Terrorist with a Stinger Missile!! I see a lot of recent pictures taken at our airport and I have to admit, I don't know how they are even possible. I've been taking pictures out there since 1988, but since 9/11/01, it's gotten really bad and I've nearly been arrested multiple times over the years. I've read that spotters/photographers can literally bring ladders and put them up against the fences so they can get clear views at Amsterdam Schiphol. THAT would get you shot dead here!! It may have something with the UPS WORLDPORT mega-hub, but I wonder. Are things that bad in Memphis with FedEx?


You don't even need ladders at Amsterdam. The only thing separating you from the taxiways/runways for most places are tiny waterways
https://www.spotterguide.net/planespotting/europe/netherlands/amsterdam-ams-eham-2/

Spotting is well understood and welcomed in Europe. Some airports, even major ones, build hills and metal structures so spotters can get clear views over perimeter fences.

Spotters are seen as an asset for airport security, not a threat, a mentality that works for everyone involved. At least where I'm from we have been mainting this relationship for years.


On a similar note I will be flying through Bologna and the new Istanbul airport in Sept, how welcome is whipping out my phone and taking shots from it from the terminal there?
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:32 am

Planes4you wrote:
If you don’t use Instagram you probably won’t know what’s going on but an Irish plane spotter recored a plane spotter from Barcelona throw a rock onto an active taxi way.

Maybe you can remove the description plane spotter from the topic title. Anyone with this kind of behaviour certainly is not a plane spotter.
 
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:51 am

MartijnNL wrote:
Planes4you wrote:
If you don’t use Instagram you probably won’t know what’s going on but an Irish plane spotter recored a plane spotter from Barcelona throw a rock onto an active taxi way.

Maybe you can remove the description plane spotter from the topic title. Anyone with this kind of behaviour certainly is not a plane spotter.


The authorities aren’t going to look into the real motives of these two, they’ll just focus on security first. That means building tall fences (and double layers of fences) and rules forbidding stopping or photography/video. The other solution is photo locations far from the planes.

I prefer to stay away from airports these days.
 
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:42 am

md11sdf wrote:
It's amazing (and depressing) at how different things are in countries around the world, as far as "Airport Security" goes.... Here in Louisville Kentucky USA (SDF), if you get within 15 feet of an airport fence with your camera, as far as the Airport Police are concerned, you're an ISIS Terrorist with a Stinger Missile!! I see a lot of recent pictures taken at our airport and I have to admit, I don't know how they are even possible. I've been taking pictures out there since 1988, but since 9/11/01, it's gotten really bad and I've nearly been arrested multiple times over the years. I've read that spotters/photographers can literally bring ladders and put them up against the fences so they can get clear views at Amsterdam Schiphol. THAT would get you shot dead here!! It may have something with the UPS WORLDPORT mega-hub, but I wonder. Are things that bad in Memphis with FedEx?


That seems like excessive to me. All over the world people spot and there have been 0 problems (except for dumb and dumber over here). You have places like BRU which has literally built stands for spotters to take pics easier, and there has been no issue whatsoever. Then again you have the UAE and Greece who seem to think people taking pictures are immediately terrorists and arrest them, which I will never understand.

In the overwhelming majority of cases planespotters respect the rules and cooperate. They literally just want to take pictures. It's really not a big deal. As long as you don't go throwing rock onto active taxiways I don't get why you shouldn't be allowed to take pics.
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:08 am

SCQ83

If they expect/require tourists to understand Catalan that will do wonders for Tourism.
 
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:10 am

In many places, security regard anyone in or near an airport without a ‘good’ reason as a problem.
 
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:06 pm

Security will be rough at that airport
 
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:40 pm

md11sdf wrote:
It's amazing (and depressing) at how different things are in countries around the world, as far as "Airport Security" goes.... Here in Louisville Kentucky USA (SDF), if you get within 15 feet of an airport fence with your camera, as far as the Airport Police are concerned, you're an ISIS Terrorist with a Stinger Missile!! I see a lot of recent pictures taken at our airport and I have to admit, I don't know how they are even possible. I've been taking pictures out there since 1988, but since 9/11/01, it's gotten really bad and I've nearly been arrested multiple times over the years. I've read that spotters/photographers can literally bring ladders and put them up against the fences so they can get clear views at Amsterdam Schiphol. THAT would get you shot dead here!! It may have something with the UPS WORLDPORT mega-hub, but I wonder. Are things that bad in Memphis with FedEx?

Wait, what? I've never had issues spotting at SDF. I'll walk right up to the fence by the cell phone lot and shoot through it sometimes. Airport police have driven by before and just gave a friendly wave. SDF is very spotter friendly IMO. Heck, they even have special events where they escort spotters out onto the airfield.
 
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:47 pm

md11sdf wrote:
It's amazing (and depressing) at how different things are in countries around the world, as far as "Airport Security" goes.... Here in Louisville Kentucky USA (SDF), if you get within 15 feet of an airport fence with your camera, as far as the Airport Police are concerned, you're an ISIS Terrorist with a Stinger Missile!! I see a lot of recent pictures taken at our airport and I have to admit, I don't know how they are even possible. I've been taking pictures out there since 1988, but since 9/11/01, it's gotten really bad and I've nearly been arrested multiple times over the years. I've read that spotters/photographers can literally bring ladders and put them up against the fences so they can get clear views at Amsterdam Schiphol. THAT would get you shot dead here!! It may have something with the UPS WORLDPORT mega-hub, but I wonder. Are things that bad in Memphis with FedEx?


You’re nothing but a drama queen and it shows. I’m sure the real story vs your story are not even close
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:05 pm

md11sdf wrote:
It's amazing (and depressing) at how different things are in countries around the world, as far as "Airport Security" goes.... Here in Louisville Kentucky USA (SDF), if you get within 15 feet of an airport fence with your camera, as far as the Airport Police are concerned, you're an ISIS Terrorist with a Stinger Missile!! I see a lot of recent pictures taken at our airport and I have to admit, I don't know how they are even possible. I've been taking pictures out there since 1988, but since 9/11/01, it's gotten really bad and I've nearly been arrested multiple times over the years. I've read that spotters/photographers can literally bring ladders and put them up against the fences so they can get clear views at Amsterdam Schiphol. THAT would get you shot dead here!! It may have something with the UPS WORLDPORT mega-hub, but I wonder. Are things that bad in Memphis with FedEx?


Wow, kwp302 has proved your post is complete rubbish. Please present actual facts or don'r post at all.
 
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:06 pm

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They aren’t spotters, they’re vandals and criminals. They’re also stupid kids whose parents should take away their toys.



First of all, that is just rude. Second of all, why the hell would this happen? I am a spotter myself, and even if people think of us as “Vandals” and “Criminals,” we are actually very nice people. I suppose the saying one bad apple ruins the bunch just stands out here.

Apart from this incident, we are a pretty good group of people. Even though we can be wild at points, we still respect and uphold the law.
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:13 pm

There are plenty of airports in the US that encourage plane spotting as well. Structures have been built to assist in airports as big as DFW and as small as APF (Naples, Florida).
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:15 am

airportugal310 wrote:
md11sdf wrote:
It's amazing (and depressing) at how different things are in countries around the world, as far as "Airport Security" goes.... Here in Louisville Kentucky USA (SDF), if you get within 15 feet of an airport fence with your camera, as far as the Airport Police are concerned, you're an ISIS Terrorist with a Stinger Missile!! I see a lot of recent pictures taken at our airport and I have to admit, I don't know how they are even possible. I've been taking pictures out there since 1988, but since 9/11/01, it's gotten really bad and I've nearly been arrested multiple times over the years. I've read that spotters/photographers can literally bring ladders and put them up against the fences so they can get clear views at Amsterdam Schiphol. THAT would get you shot dead here!! It may have something with the UPS WORLDPORT mega-hub, but I wonder. Are things that bad in Memphis with FedEx?


You’re nothing but a drama queen and it shows. I’m sure the real story vs your story are not even close


Ditto, sounds like someone may have had a run-in with a Cop and now SDF is an armed compound in his mind. Granted, in the years after 9-11, Spotters were easy targets by airport security, however, a lot the overreaction by airports in the US and abroad has lessened. I can not personally speak for SDF as I have never transited that airport, but I have spotted at many airports where security was tightened, like JFK, EWR, MIA, and others with no issues. While you might be approached by local Law Enforcement, most will simply check your I.D. and move on or request that you move along, especially if you are in an unauthorized area. As for being arrested for spotting, seriously I have not heard of any cases of any spotters being "arrested" possibly being detained for, well, popping off to a Cop, but I have heard of no actual arrests or charges filed.
 
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:35 am

Mattheus wrote:
nikeherc wrote:
They aren’t spotters, they’re vandals and criminals. They’re also stupid kids whose parents should take away their toys.



First of all, that is just rude. Second of all, why the hell would this happen? I am a spotter myself, and even if people think of us as “Vandals” and “Criminals,” we are actually very nice people. I suppose the saying one bad apple ruins the bunch just stands out here.

Apart from this incident, we are a pretty good group of people. Even though we can be wild at points, we still respect and uphold the law.


You missed my point completely. Spotters in general are fine people. My point was that these young people are not spotters. Spotters would never throw FOD on a taxiway. I don’t think of you or any other enthusiast as a criminal or vandal. I do think that throwing rocks on a taxiway qualifies for the description you take offense at.
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:34 am

nikeherc wrote:
Mattheus wrote:
nikeherc wrote:
They aren’t spotters, they’re vandals and criminals. They’re also stupid kids whose parents should take away their toys.



First of all, that is just rude. Second of all, why the hell would this happen? I am a spotter myself, and even if people think of us as “Vandals” and “Criminals,” we are actually very nice people. I suppose the saying one bad apple ruins the bunch just stands out here.

Apart from this incident, we are a pretty good group of people. Even though we can be wild at points, we still respect and uphold the law.


You missed my point completely. Spotters in general are fine people. My point was that these young people are not spotters. Spotters would never throw FOD on a taxiway. I don’t think of you or any other enthusiast as a criminal or vandal. I do think that throwing rocks on a taxiway qualifies for the description you take offense at.


Yes, these specific young people are not spotters. They are criminals. However, your first post made it sound like you were talking about all young people. That's incorrect, as a very active member of the planespotting community on Instagram, as well as being on the younger side, I can say it truly is one of the best outlets for young people to get into aviation. There are meetups and spotting tours, where people and teens meet others who have the same interests that are the same age. Of course, there are a share of bad apples but for the most part everyone that is dedicated to the hobby/aviation has utmost respect for the people and facilities that encompass aviation.

This wasn't directed at the poeple I quoted, more of just a general statement, and sharing my viewpoint being a member of this community on Instagram.
 
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:38 pm

I want to go to SDF for plane spotting but I've been procrastinating because it seems that there are no spots to camp all day.
It's a 8 hours drive from DC and I don't want to be turned around by some cop telling me that they can arrest me for taking pictures.
Is the cell phone lot the only place where you can take pictures at SDF???

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Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:24 pm

We took most of our’s from a car park.

Not impressed by the toilet in the car park mind.

It brought to mind a lorry stop in Egypt.
 
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:36 pm

thewizbizman wrote:
nikeherc wrote:
Mattheus wrote:


First of all, that is just rude. Second of all, why the hell would this happen? I am a spotter myself, and even if people think of us as “Vandals” and “Criminals,” we are actually very nice people. I suppose the saying one bad apple ruins the bunch just stands out here.

Apart from this incident, we are a pretty good group of people. Even though we can be wild at points, we still respect and uphold the law.


You missed my point completely. Spotters in general are fine people. My point was that these young people are not spotters. Spotters would never throw FOD on a taxiway. I don’t think of you or any other enthusiast as a criminal or vandal. I do think that throwing rocks on a taxiway qualifies for the description you take offense at.


Yes, these specific young people are not spotters. They are criminals. However, your first post made it sound like you were talking about all young people. That's incorrect, as a very active member of the planespotting community on Instagram, as well as being on the younger side, I can say it truly is one of the best outlets for young people to get into aviation. There are meetups and spotting tours, where people and teens meet others who have the same interests that are the same age. Of course, there are a share of bad apples but for the most part everyone that is dedicated to the hobby/aviation has utmost respect for the people and facilities that encompass aviation.

This wasn't directed at the poeple I quoted, more of just a general statement, and sharing my viewpoint being a member of this community on Instagram.


Why would I have been talking about anybody but the people in the video? They were obviously doing something they shouldn't have. They were also young people or in the American vernacular kids. I don't think anyone would argue that their actions were not stupid. I also think that most people would think that their parents should take some disciplinary action. I did not say that all young people are stupid or anything else. This was a specific topic about which I made a specific reply.
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:36 pm

dcaviation wrote:
I want to go to SDF for plane spotting but I've been procrastinating because it seems that there are no spots to camp all day.
It's a 8 hours drive from DC and I don't want to be turned around by some cop telling me that they can arrest me for taking pictures.
Is the cell phone lot the only place where you can take pictures at SDF???

Thanks

Reach out to the airport (@flylouisville on Twitter) and see when their next spotting event will be. They might also have some other suggestions for “safe” spotting. The issue with spotting at SDF is its bordered by interstates on the east and north sides, a Ford plant/industrial road on the south, and railroad tracks on the west. And UPS Worldport obstructs a lot of views across the airfield. Just not a whole lot of open space for spotting. Cell phone lot is the best spot to not be bothered. You’ll get good views of passenger jets on 17L/35R, but the UPS heavies typically use 17R/35L on the other side of the airfield (blocked by the passenger terminal and parking garage when looking from the cell phone lot). The top of the parking garage on the west side could be a decent spot, but might raise suspicion if you’re camped out up there all day. You might be able to reach out to some of the businesses along Crittenden Drive to see if they’ll allow you to use their parking lot
 
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:32 pm

kwp302 wrote:
dcaviation wrote:
I want to go to SDF for plane spotting but I've been procrastinating because it seems that there are no spots to camp all day.
It's a 8 hours drive from DC and I don't want to be turned around by some cop telling me that they can arrest me for taking pictures.
Is the cell phone lot the only place where you can take pictures at SDF???

Thanks

Reach out to the airport (@flylouisville on Twitter) and see when their next spotting event will be. They might also have some other suggestions for “safe” spotting. The issue with spotting at SDF is its bordered by interstates on the east and north sides, a Ford plant/industrial road on the south, and railroad tracks on the west. And UPS Worldport obstructs a lot of views across the airfield. Just not a whole lot of open space for spotting. Cell phone lot is the best spot to not be bothered. You’ll get good views of passenger jets on 17L/35R, but the UPS heavies typically use 17R/35L on the other side of the airfield (blocked by the passenger terminal and parking garage when looking from the cell phone lot). The top of the parking garage on the west side could be a decent spot, but might raise suspicion if you’re camped out up there all day. You might be able to reach out to some of the businesses along Crittenden Drive to see if they’ll allow you to use their parking lot


Thanks for your explanations.

If they are landing on 17R, what about Green Lot D for afternoon arrivals? Or dirt lot at the intersection of Seneca Ave and Schweirman?
If they are landing from the south, what about Stooges Bar & Grill extended parking lot on Melton Ave?
 
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:06 am

dcaviation wrote:
kwp302 wrote:
dcaviation wrote:
I want to go to SDF for plane spotting but I've been procrastinating because it seems that there are no spots to camp all day.
It's a 8 hours drive from DC and I don't want to be turned around by some cop telling me that they can arrest me for taking pictures.
Is the cell phone lot the only place where you can take pictures at SDF???

Thanks

Reach out to the airport (@flylouisville on Twitter) and see when their next spotting event will be. They might also have some other suggestions for “safe” spotting. The issue with spotting at SDF is its bordered by interstates on the east and north sides, a Ford plant/industrial road on the south, and railroad tracks on the west. And UPS Worldport obstructs a lot of views across the airfield. Just not a whole lot of open space for spotting. Cell phone lot is the best spot to not be bothered. You’ll get good views of passenger jets on 17L/35R, but the UPS heavies typically use 17R/35L on the other side of the airfield (blocked by the passenger terminal and parking garage when looking from the cell phone lot). The top of the parking garage on the west side could be a decent spot, but might raise suspicion if you’re camped out up there all day. You might be able to reach out to some of the businesses along Crittenden Drive to see if they’ll allow you to use their parking lot


Thanks for your explanations.

If they are landing on 17R, what about Green Lot D for afternoon arrivals? Or dirt lot at the intersection of Seneca Ave and Schweirman?
If they are landing from the south, what about Stooges Bar & Grill extended parking lot on Melton Ave?


You might not have very good sightlines/angles at those locations. The Republic Airlines hangar on Crittenden Drive has an open parking lot right up against the fence. Its midway down the length of the runway so you'll be able to catch takeoffs and landings.
 
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Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:15 pm

MoonC wrote:
md11sdf wrote:
It's amazing (and depressing) at how different things are in countries around the world, as far as "Airport Security" goes.... Here in Louisville Kentucky USA (SDF), if you get within 15 feet of an airport fence with your camera, as far as the Airport Police are concerned, you're an ISIS Terrorist with a Stinger Missile!! I see a lot of recent pictures taken at our airport and I have to admit, I don't know how they are even possible. I've been taking pictures out there since 1988, but since 9/11/01, it's gotten really bad and I've nearly been arrested multiple times over the years. I've read that spotters/photographers can literally bring ladders and put them up against the fences so they can get clear views at Amsterdam Schiphol. THAT would get you shot dead here!! It may have something with the UPS WORLDPORT mega-hub, but I wonder. Are things that bad in Memphis with FedEx?


You don't even need ladders at Amsterdam. The only thing separating you from the taxiways/runways for most places are tiny waterways
https://www.spotterguide.net/planespotting/europe/netherlands/amsterdam-ams-eham-2/

Spotting is well understood and welcomed in Europe. Some airports, even major ones, build hills and metal structures so spotters can get clear views over perimeter fences.

Spotters are seen as an asset for airport security, not a threat, a mentality that works for everyone involved. At least where I'm from we have been mainting this relationship for years.


:-) spotting in BRU today :

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/brus ... he-tarmac/
 
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Re: Barcelona plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:49 pm

nikeherc wrote:
thewizbizman wrote:
nikeherc wrote:

You missed my point completely. Spotters in general are fine people. My point was that these young people are not spotters. Spotters would never throw FOD on a taxiway. I don’t think of you or any other enthusiast as a criminal or vandal. I do think that throwing rocks on a taxiway qualifies for the description you take offense at.


Yes, these specific young people are not spotters. They are criminals. However, your first post made it sound like you were talking about all young people. That's incorrect, as a very active member of the planespotting community on Instagram, as well as being on the younger side, I can say it truly is one of the best outlets for young people to get into aviation. There are meetups and spotting tours, where people and teens meet others who have the same interests that are the same age. Of course, there are a share of bad apples but for the most part everyone that is dedicated to the hobby/aviation has utmost respect for the people and facilities that encompass aviation.

This wasn't directed at the poeple I quoted, more of just a general statement, and sharing my viewpoint being a member of this community on Instagram.


Why would I have been talking about anybody but the people in the video? They were obviously doing something they shouldn't have. They were also young people or in the American vernacular kids. I don't think anyone would argue that their actions were not stupid. I also think that most people would think that their parents should take some disciplinary action. I did not say that all young people are stupid or anything else. This was a specific topic about which I made a specific reply.


just to point out, I read your initial post and understood what you meant exactly and don't see it as addressing anything other than the clowns in the video, and your description of them seems quite accurate!
 
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:16 pm

According to this, SDF is rather friendly

https://www.airlinereporter.com/2019/02 ... jKSvkBrRtA
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
 
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Re: Reus plane spotter throws rock onto active taxiway

Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:59 pm

Thanks Ozel for the link :)

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