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Re: The WestJet Thread

Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:22 pm

Any chance Westjet adds something like YYC-MSP/DTW to connect to DL hubs?
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:36 pm

The hints provided by the poster on SSP suggest it is an overseas destination. Some think it may be something unexpected in Europe such as YYC-BCN or FCO on a seasonal basis.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:42 pm

HP69 wrote:
Any chance Westjet adds something like YYC-MSP/DTW to connect to DL hubs?



Well Delta already flies MSP-YYC so I would think WS would add DTW just like it did ATL. Would give WS connections to places in the east that aren't linked via MSP.
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:43 pm

klm617 wrote:
HP69 wrote:
Any chance Westjet adds something like YYC-MSP/DTW to connect to DL hubs?



Well Delta already flies MSP-YYC so I would think WS would add DTW just like it did ATL. Would give WS connections to places in the east that aren't linked via MSP.


Good idea, except ATL is a much better and larger hub.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:14 am

cactus18 wrote:
The hints provided by the poster on SSP suggest it is an overseas destination. Some think it may be something unexpected in Europe such as YYC-BCN or FCO on a seasonal basis.

Post the link?
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:33 am

hollywoodcory wrote:
WS has updated its 787 schedule for S20,
YVR-LGW is now a 789 daily next summer, as expected.


Looks like YWG & YEG-LGW may have been cut for next summer also....
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:44 am

whywhyzee wrote:
cactus18 wrote:
The hints provided by the poster on SSP suggest it is an overseas destination. Some think it may be something unexpected in Europe such as YYC-BCN or FCO on a seasonal basis.

Post the link?


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthr ... 5&page=432
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:05 am

cactus18 wrote:
whywhyzee wrote:
cactus18 wrote:
The hints provided by the poster on SSP suggest it is an overseas destination. Some think it may be something unexpected in Europe such as YYC-BCN or FCO on a seasonal basis.

Post the link?


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthr ... 5&page=432


If I am reading it correctly, no airline is explicitly mentioned. It could theoretically be another airline, though WS seems likely.

Whiteguy wrote:
hollywoodcory wrote:
WS has updated its 787 schedule for S20,
YVR-LGW is now a 789 daily next summer, as expected.


Looks like YWG & YEG-LGW may have been cut for next summer also....


That is correct.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:32 am

The timing seems a little off for a WS 787 route announcement, but I could be wrong. Didn’t they say they would announce where the next 787s were going in November? Also wouldn’t there be more hype as is their custom?
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:53 am

Jayce wrote:
The timing seems a little off for a WS 787 route announcement, but I could be wrong. Didn’t they say they would announce where the next 787s were going in November? Also wouldn’t there be more hype as is their custom?


The 787 routes were announced around mid Oct last year, there wasn’t a lot of hype leading up to that either.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:16 am

New WestJet ad meanwhile

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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:10 pm

Whiteguy wrote:
hollywoodcory wrote:
WS has updated its 787 schedule for S20,
YVR-LGW is now a 789 daily next summer, as expected.


Looks like YWG & YEG-LGW may have been cut for next summer also....


That doesn't surprise me.

According to Seatguru.com, the WestJet 787s have 320 seats, between J, Premium Economy, and Economy. Their 767s have 262 seats and just a modest Premium Economy, and Economy seating. Funneling the traffic through their bigger hubs (YYC, YYZ, YVR) makes sense, as much as I feel for the folks in YEG or YWG. It also gives them the chance to sell those J seats to transit passengers from larger US markets (LAX, SFO, LAS, PHX in Canada West, various Florida markets, LGA and BOS in the East plus perhaps the occasional DL passenger originating in ATL/DTW/SLC/MSP going to Europe through Canada).

If they are adding a Euro route from YYC, I would think it has to be BCN. Now that they have a year's worth of sales data, they know where their passengers are coming from...and presumably BCN has been a success from YYZ. WS strikes me as a fairly conservatively run company who wouldn't launch something like FCO from Canada West without reams of numbers to support it. (FCO from YYZ, as I've mentioned a few times in this thread I know they could make work). YYC AMS would also work in this vein, but do they want to offend KLM, especially with a TATL partnership looming? Best make it official and then figure out which airplanes to use.

The only other wildcard would be NRT. A year or so ago, I heard a WS Executive speak at a Chamber of Commerce meeting. Their goal is to match everything AC is doing in YYC and then more (which also explains WS Link). When their corporate sales folks go around town presenting to various clients, route network and non-stop reach matters. They do have the possibility of being able to one-up AC in Calgary, with just a few selective route additions.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:07 pm

WS has again updated its 787 schedule for S20:

YYC-LGW, daily from April 14
YYC-CDG, Resumes in March and increases to 6x Weekly from June 2
YYC-DUB, resumes May 3 3x Weekly
YYZ-LGW, daily
YVR-LGW, daily from April 26
YYC-YYZ, daily

BCN still shows as a 767. No new routes showing yet.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:20 pm

hollywoodcory wrote:
WS has again updated its 787 schedule for S20:

YYC-LGW, daily from April 14
YYC-CDG, Resumes in March and increases to 6x Weekly from June 2
YYC-DUB, resumes May 3 3x Weekly
YYZ-LGW, daily
YVR-LGW, daily from April 26
YYC-YYZ, daily

BCN still shows as a 767. No new routes showing yet.


Where did you get the info? CDG still showing 4x a week on the WS website.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:23 pm

Whiteguy wrote:
hollywoodcory wrote:
WS has again updated its 787 schedule for S20:

YYC-LGW, daily from April 14
YYC-CDG, Resumes in March and increases to 6x Weekly from June 2
YYC-DUB, resumes May 3 3x Weekly
YYZ-LGW, daily
YVR-LGW, daily from April 26
YYC-YYZ, daily

BCN still shows as a 767. No new routes showing yet.


Where did you get the info? CDG still showing 4x a week on the WS website.


https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/travel-in ... edules/new

None of the schedules they posted here are available to book it seems.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:35 pm

hollywoodcory wrote:
Whiteguy wrote:
hollywoodcory wrote:
WS has again updated its 787 schedule for S20:

YYC-LGW, daily from April 14
YYC-CDG, Resumes in March and increases to 6x Weekly from June 2
YYC-DUB, resumes May 3 3x Weekly
YYZ-LGW, daily
YVR-LGW, daily from April 26
YYC-YYZ, daily

BCN still shows as a 767. No new routes showing yet.


Where did you get the info? CDG still showing 4x a week on the WS website.


https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/travel-in ... edules/new

None of the schedules they posted here are available to book it seems.


Cool, thanks. CDG is obviously doing well, staring much earlier and increasing the frequency. I’m surprised DUB hasn’t added a couple more flights per week.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:37 pm

Whiteguy wrote:
hollywoodcory wrote:
WS has again updated its 787 schedule for S20:

YYC-LGW, daily from April 14
YYC-CDG, Resumes in March and increases to 6x Weekly from June 2
YYC-DUB, resumes May 3 3x Weekly
YYZ-LGW, daily
YVR-LGW, daily from April 26
YYC-YYZ, daily

BCN still shows as a 767. No new routes showing yet.


Where did you get the info? CDG still showing 4x a week on the WS website.


The official announcement just came out and shows no frequency increase for CDG. Unless there is going to be a separate announcement it doesn’t look like it’s happening.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:43 pm

Whiteguy wrote:
Whiteguy wrote:
hollywoodcory wrote:
WS has again updated its 787 schedule for S20:

YYC-LGW, daily from April 14
YYC-CDG, Resumes in March and increases to 6x Weekly from June 2
YYC-DUB, resumes May 3 3x Weekly
YYZ-LGW, daily
YVR-LGW, daily from April 26
YYC-YYZ, daily

BCN still shows as a 767. No new routes showing yet.


Where did you get the info? CDG still showing 4x a week on the WS website.


The official announcement just came out and shows no frequency increase for CDG. Unless there is going to be a separate announcement it doesn’t look like it’s happening.


I was just coming to post that. It looks like either it was posted too soon or by mistake. I got an email earlier that said “more flights between Calgary and Paris” so I wonder if their doing a separate YYC announcement with a new route?
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:34 am

Whiteguy wrote:
hollywoodcory wrote:
Whiteguy wrote:

Where did you get the info? CDG still showing 4x a week on the WS website.


https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/travel-in ... edules/new

None of the schedules they posted here are available to book it seems.


Cool, thanks. CDG is obviously doing well, staring much earlier and increasing the frequency. I’m surprised DUB hasn’t added a couple more flights per week.



They didn't add any DUB flights but they did bump up service relative to a year ago. YYC DUB inaugurated June 1st, whereas in 2020 it will be May 3rd, almost a full month earlier. Reference this press release from last year.

http://westjet.mediaroom.com/2019-06-01 ... lin-launch

Additionally, re YYC CDG, in 2019 it was 4x weekly and started May 17th, vs now 6x weekly and starting in March, so that might be the increase in service someone was talking about in this thread.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/w ... 70568.html

Both routes appear to have been successful in 2019. Although I welcomed the service, I was curious how it would do out of YYC. Now we know they are making it work.

Does this count as their summer 2020 widebody schedule announcement? It seemed a little less than I would have expected. Plus I was also anticipating more YYZ B787 service.

Incidentally, today (October 23) is the day YYZ LGW changes over to the B787. Congratulations WestJet!
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:34 pm

WS7M8 wrote:
Whiteguy wrote:
hollywoodcory wrote:

https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/travel-in ... edules/new

None of the schedules they posted here are available to book it seems.


Cool, thanks. CDG is obviously doing well, staring much earlier and increasing the frequency. I’m surprised DUB hasn’t added a couple more flights per week.



They didn't add any DUB flights but they did bump up service relative to a year ago. YYC DUB inaugurated June 1st, whereas in 2020 it will be May 3rd, almost a full month earlier. Reference this press release from last year.

http://westjet.mediaroom.com/2019-06-01 ... lin-launch

Additionally, re YYC CDG, in 2019 it was 4x weekly and started May 17th, vs now 6x weekly and starting in March, so that might be the increase in service someone was talking about in this thread.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/w ... 70568.html

Both routes appear to have been successful in 2019. Although I welcomed the service, I was curious how it would do out of YYC. Now we know they are making it work.

Does this count as their summer 2020 widebody schedule announcement? It seemed a little less than I would have expected. Plus I was also anticipating more YYZ B787 service.

Incidentally, today (October 23) is the day YYZ LGW changes over to the B787. Congratulations WestJet!


We’ve already discussed the 6x weekly CDG, it was not announced and it’s not in the schedule for next summer...
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:38 am

Ok thanks.

Here's another big takeaway from that release. Daily B787 to LGW, from both YYC (April 14th) and YVR (April 26th) of 2020. Knowing that YYZ just transitioned to year-round B787 service, and coupled with the YYC-DUB/CDG route renewals, here is an approximation of WS widebody flying next summer, when by my accounting they'll have 6 B787s, and 4 B767s.

B787

1. YYC-LGW (daily)
2. YYZ-LGW (daily)
3. YVR-LGW (daily)
4. YYC - DUB (3x weekly) & CDG (4 x weekly)
5. YYC-YYZ-YYC - there is a daily YYC-YYZ-YYC flight noted in that release.....my guess is that this aircraft is the designated spare and floating between YYC & YYZ on a scheduled flight allows it to be available in case it is needed for maintenance.
6. TBA. They might upgauge the 3x weekly YYZ-BCN flight to a B787, and possibly start YYC-BCN as some were speculating, perhaps 2x weekly, which would allow for a certain slack in their system in case they needed spare coverage. Or they might surprise us with something new.

B767

1. YYZ-BCN??? - was 3x weekly this past year, does this stay a B767 or transition to a 787. Whether it is a 767 or a 787, it could do some sort of W pattern, eg YYC-BCN-YYZ to link the destinations.

2. TBD
3. TBD
4. TBD

The big mysteries are what WestJet will do with the 6th B787, and what exactly their plans are for B767 flying, spring/summer/early fall 2020. Do they announce a new TATL route or two, keep them doing high volume vacation destinations (never ceases to amaze me how the places they are deploying them in the fall such as PUJ, CUN, and MBJ bring in people year round....they always struck me as winter places), perhaps Hawaii, or maybe high volume domestic routes such as YYC-YYZ or YVR-YYZ. Alternatively, someone noted earlier WestJet has announced plans to get rid of their 767s (I can't find any correlating information). Time will tell.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:30 am

I am estimating they will be announcing actual new destinations come November
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:21 pm

What’s with all of the YYC-BCN speculation? Have they hinted at this? Seems like a really wild suggestion.. I’m pretty certain that if the 787 gets sent on YYZ-BCN, the freed up 767 will be used on additional sun capacity from YYZ/YYC/YVR or used to develop another European route from YYZ or maybe YVR. There’s no way YYC could sustain another European route.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:44 pm

I would guess one big hold up is the WS/DL joint venture application, which has been under review for much longer than usual. A decision on that has been “imminent” for months now.

Once that is approved (or not), then WS can probably better allocate their flight changes accordingly. But it is probably hard for WS to commit to many changes until they know how the JV approvals will pan out.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:57 pm

kavok wrote:
I would guess one big hold up is the WS/DL joint venture application, which has been under review for much longer than usual. A decision on that has been “imminent” for months now.

Once that is approved (or not), then WS can probably better allocate their flight changes accordingly. But it is probably hard for WS to commit to many changes until they know how the JV approvals will pan out.


As much as the DL JV will be a boost to WestJet, I'm sure the Teal decision makers are equally eager to join the DL-AF/KLM/Virgin TATL pact. That will really give them a presence over the Atlantic. You might also see WestJet become a conduit for lower-yielding traffic, allowing DL to keep space in their airplanes for higher-yielding pax. DL/AF/KLM & VA are painfully aware of the bite of TATL Rouge has taken in its ~5 year existence.....while the WS B787 airplane and on-board product is far superior to Rouge's offerings, cheaper Canadian labour costs and the low looney can make WS via YYZ/YYC/YVR an affordable transit option.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:45 pm

WS 787 announcement coming on Wednesday:
http://westjet.mediaroom.com/2019-10-28 ... nouncement
 
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Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:27 am

 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:29 am

BCN or FCO would be my guess.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:44 am

jimbo737 wrote:
BCN or FCO would be my guess.


GLA would be my guess as it is an existing WS destination, and even though BCN is too, unlike BCN, GLA has been served nonstop historically from YYC. No doubt YYC-GLA O&D traffic is > YYC-BCN + FCO combined.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:20 am

FCO seasonal seems the most likely for YYC as its a skyteam hub for AZ. WS could use that flight to connect pax through AZ to other european destinations to support the pax on the YYC-FCO flight.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:20 am

FCO seasonal seems the most likely for YYC as its a skyteam hub for AZ. WS could use that flight to connect pax through AZ to other european destinations to support the pax on the YYC-FCO flight.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:57 am

There is some suggestion that the announcement might be the next 10 789s. While personally I feel like that is wishful thinking, jumping up to 20 pretty much right out the gate, Onex is supposedly hell bent on growth and if Q3, the first quarter to see extensive 789 use is any indicator, the move has proven to be quite successful.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:31 am

I’m also thinking it would be GLA, especially seeing as how they already serve it and TS has all but abandoned YYC.

I also think they’ll announce the next ten 787s on Wednesday.
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:49 am

I’d like to think MAN stands a good chance of getting added.

Calgary currently unserved from MAN, and WS are getting cozy with DL, to which DL owns a piece of VS and in turn that VS has publicly said it wants to build a hub at MAN. This hub will be switched on almost instantly next summer with the creation of Virgin Connect, and the basing of 10 short haul aircraft straight off the bat. This means MAN-YYC would have alliance feed at both ends of the route as well as a decent O&D potential too.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:07 pm

whywhyzee wrote:
There is some suggestion that the announcement might be the next 10 789s. While personally I feel like that is wishful thinking, jumping up to 20 pretty much right out the gate, Onex is supposedly hell bent on growth and if Q3, the first quarter to see extensive 789 use is any indicator, the move has proven to be quite successful.

I'm thinking that the mention in the media release about Travel Alberta and Tourism Calgary being present means it's likely a new international route coming into YYC. I'm not sure you'd have the tourism folks there just to announce new aircraft - at least not on it's own. Maybe it's new aircraft plus new route.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:38 pm

EDI was rumoured a while back, but I dont know if this may be something for there?
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:38 am

https://calgaryherald.com/business/loca ... groundings

Interview with Sims discussing the strong quarter.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:42 am

New route is YYC-FCO, it's showing bookable on the website.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:02 am

The CDG increase was also loaded in this schedule update as well. Now 6x weekly.

FCO appears to start once weekly May 3 then in increasing to 3x weekly May 23.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:16 am

whywhyzee wrote:
New route is YYC-FCO, it's showing bookable on the website.


What a weird schedule. Ops on days 456.

For a city of around 1.5 million, the breadth of international (especially transoceanic) destinations is unmatched anywhere else. How much more can YYC realistically sustain?
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:51 am

Dominion301 wrote:
whywhyzee wrote:
New route is YYC-FCO, it's showing bookable on the website.


What a weird schedule. Ops on days 456.

For a city of around 1.5 million, the breadth of international (especially transoceanic) destinations is unmatched anywhere else. How much more can YYC realistically sustain?


While the growth is incredible, for WS and YYC to take the next step, they need year round routes. I'm confident it'll come, but it's still a work in progress. What a time to be in the business, watching a company like WestJet in the past couple years change the way it has, makes me quite excited for the future.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:13 am

Dominion301 wrote:
whywhyzee wrote:
New route is YYC-FCO, it's showing bookable on the website.


What a weird schedule. Ops on days 456.

For a city of around 1.5 million, the breadth of international (especially transoceanic) destinations is unmatched anywhere else. How much more can YYC realistically sustain?


You don't need YYC to sustain anything if you can fill the plane with connections from across the network. Local traffic is a bonus.
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:45 am

On a recent LGW-YYC rotation, the screens in the front of the cabin scrolled through YYC connection info for passengers on board. I counted at least 24 different destinations, including LAX, LAS and PHX.

WJ has spent 24 years slowly building a large, organic feed network into YYC, and elsewhere, to ensure the success of their various expansion strategies.

The mistake other Cdn based carriers have made is to try to and expand into various markets without building the robust feed network necessary to be successful outside the typical, and very short, peak travel periods given Canada’s thin population.

Just as US and sun expansion required a certain level of network connectivity, (WS has about 40 tails in the fleet before they started sched service into the US), so did the TATL.

The strategy appears to be working well. As any WJ’r will tell you, trying to get a standby seat on any of the TATL flights in the summer is not an easy task.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:46 am

HP69 wrote:
klm617 wrote:
HP69 wrote:
Any chance Westjet adds something like YYC-MSP/DTW to connect to DL hubs?



Well Delta already flies MSP-YYC so I would think WS would add DTW just like it did ATL. Would give WS connections to places in the east that aren't linked via MSP.


Good idea, except ATL is a much better and larger hub.


The timing of ATL-YYC is a bit awkward though-800p arrival at YYC would tend to limit onward connections a bit, of the 5 regional connections I tried, it only hit 3 (YMM, YYJ, and YLW; it missed YXS and YZF). I understand why they do it; it's good aircraft utilization for WS at the expense of some connectivity to some very small spokes. Connectivity via MSP covers a lot of the rest anyways.

It'd be nice to see a YYC-DTW-YYC rotation that complimented this, say, a ~830A DTW-YYC that arrived around noon then turned around and flew back to DTW in time to hit the last evening bank. For reasons of aircraft utilization, it'd probably have to be a DL aircraft like an A319.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:25 am

I'm also hoping that maybe WS will add YYC-BOS as seasonal. What other US transborder markets are unserved from YYC that has enough traffic?
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:27 am

YYZORD wrote:
I'm also hoping that maybe WS will add YYC-BOS as seasonal. What other US transborder markets are unserved from YYC that has enough traffic?


IAD and SJC could also potentially work.
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:41 am

GSP psgr wrote:
The timing of ATL-YYC is a bit awkward though-800p arrival at YYC would tend to limit onward connections a bit, of the 5 regional connections I tried, it only hit 3 (YMM, YYJ, and YLW; it missed YXS and YZF).


It's timed to connect to the 16 departures of the 23:00 bank, just like everything else that arrives between 19 and 22. I'm not sure how it could possibly be timed better, in fact.
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:48 am

YYZORD wrote:
I'm also hoping that maybe WS will add YYC-BOS as seasonal. What other US transborder markets are unserved from YYC that has enough traffic?


More Leisure Than Business: TPA, TUS, maybe MSY and SAT
More Business Than Leisure: DFW, BOS, WAS, PHL, SJC, reaaaalllly stretching it RDU
 
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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:08 am

Isn't it YYC-FCO?

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Re: The WestJet Thread

Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:14 pm

GSP psgr wrote:
HP69 wrote:
klm617 wrote:


Well Delta already flies MSP-YYC so I would think WS would add DTW just like it did ATL. Would give WS connections to places in the east that aren't linked via MSP.


Good idea, except ATL is a much better and larger hub.


The timing of ATL-YYC is a bit awkward though-800p arrival at YYC would tend to limit onward connections a bit, of the 5 regional connections I tried, it only hit 3 (YMM, YYJ, and YLW; it missed YXS and YZF). I understand why they do it; it's good aircraft utilization for WS at the expense of some connectivity to some very small spokes. Connectivity via MSP covers a lot of the rest anyways.

It'd be nice to see a YYC-DTW-YYC rotation that complimented this, say, a ~830A DTW-YYC that arrived around noon then turned around and flew back to DTW in time to hit the last evening bank. For reasons of aircraft utilization, it'd probably have to be a DL aircraft like an A319.


Hasn’t the YYC-DTW horse been discussed to death? They already fly seasonally to YQG to capture Metro Detroit-Windsor O&D traffic. There’s very little YYC-transborder O&D that DTW provides that doesn’t already overlap with MSP.

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