BrianDromey
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Re: Irish 8/19

Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:58 pm

Eagleboy wrote:
Look at Austrian Airlines for example. They no longer fly longhaul. Instead all those Austrian branded aircraft have little notices under the cockpit window stating "operated by Tyroleon Airlines". Thats what happens when you dont have scope clauses.
Would you expect the union to sit idly by and watch as their members lose their jobs?


I don't think that is the case anymore. OS mainline was folded into Tyrolean, but after the unions agreed to new T&C's they were demerged/combined into a single Austrian Airlines in 2015. Tyrolean no longer exists. There are other examples in the LH family. Swiss is a more recent example. Swiss International Air Lines operates the A320 and A330/40, this being the former Crossair. Swiss Global Air Lines, nee Swiss European Air Lines operate the C-Series and 77W. Swiss Global was a new operation set up to fly the ARJ. LH Cityline aloe operated A340s for LH - this experiment is now over, but Sun Express still operate A330s for Eurowings.
Fundamentally, I agree, why would labour agree for outside contractors to operate "their" routes, while sub-contracting is quite attractive to management? It allows management to grow the business at low capital cost, reduce disruption in labour disputes & strikes and may even reduce costs. The question remains if the employee representatives are willing to let their members fly ATRs and small jets at 'market' rates?
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:29 pm

shamrock350 wrote:
No surprise about Norwegian, it was clear from very early on that they’d struggle to carve out a niche for themselves let alone challenge the likes of Aer Lingus and the US carriers.

I think it was flawed either way, the MAX grounding just accelerated the inevitable.


ORK is the real loser here as it will struggle to get another opportunity for a transatlantic service, which is a real shame.
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:38 pm

VFRonTop wrote:
ORK is the real loser here as it will struggle to get another opportunity for a transatlantic service, which is a real shame.


Agreed ORK will not get anything from EI even with the new aircraft. They have no comittment to it which is sad. The only thing ORK can hope for is if another LCC or US Carrier decides to launch seasonal routes. One cannot underestimate the loss that this is to the area. Although it was rumoured for weeks that they were to pull the plug on all TATL out of Ireland the reality when it happens is still a shock. Kudos to Norwegian for trying to make it work but as per their statement the current situation with lease in aircraft and heading to DUB was not sustainable without a date for MAX flights to start again.
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:04 pm

OA260 wrote:
VFRonTop wrote:
ORK is the real loser here as it will struggle to get another opportunity for a transatlantic service, which is a real shame.


Agreed ORK will not get anything from EI even with the new aircraft. They have no commitment to it which is sad. The only thing ORK can hope for is if another LCC or US Carrier decides to launch seasonal routes.


ORK would be best served by a BOS/JFK seasonal service but there is no US based carrier that would commit those resources to such a small market. Maybe jetBlue could send an A220 ? ;)
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:49 pm

Your Tyrolean comment is inaccurate. When Austrian had a problem with staff and costs it transferred all flight operations to Tyrolean and adjusted contracts accordingly. I believe that once industrial relations settled
Tyrolean was reacquired by Austrian. Something similar to what happened when SWISSAIR went wallop, operations were transferred/restarted using CROSSAIR.
We will agree to disagree on scope clauses. Stobart picks up all the risk and pays Aer Lingus a franchise fee, but it also gets all the cover of a safe and known brand and access to all services.
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:20 am

They had no idea where my wheelchair was' - Aer Lingus customers airline amid complaints over lost luggage

Aer Lingus passengers have slammed the airline as complaints flood in over lost luggage, leaving one woman without a wheelchair and another without medication.

Terri McGee (57), from Waterford, flew from Dublin to Newcastle earlier this month and discovered her luggage was missing when she arrived in the UK.

Ms McGee suffers from stomach ulcers, and needs to take medication, which she had packed in her suitcase.
She has gone 11 days without her luggage, and does not know when it will be returned.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/the ... 00113.html



Flight disruption in Dublin Airport after 'drone sighting'

The incident only affected arrivals and not departures

A number of flights have been forced to hold off landing at Dublin Airport after an apparent drone sighting.

The sighting allegedly happened near runway 10 with at least four flights forced to do a "go around" loop while waiting for clearance.

www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/flig ... s-18929087



Calls for senior Cork politicians to 'stand up for Cork Airport' as transatlantic route axed

CORK AIRPORT says it in talks with a number of airlines about starting a transatlantic service in the wake of Norwegian’s decision to end all transatlantic flights from Cork, Shannon, and Dublin airports from September 15.

The airline said the routes are no longer commercially viable after their Boeing 737 Max aircraft were grounded.

In a statement, Cork Airport said they were disappointed with the news.

“We will redouble our efforts to secure a new transatlantic carrier for Cork to operate from Summer 2021, and we are in active discussions with a number of carriers in this regard,” said Cork Airport managing director, Niall MacCarthy.

www.echolive.ie/corknews/Calls-for-seni ... baaf781-ds
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:25 am

Just at DUB heading on SK to ARN. For a Wednesday, T1 is jammed. Cool to see the AC A330 push back to Vancouver while the AC A330 from Toronto pulls onto the same gate. Finnair A321, TAP A320, Swiss A321 and Turkish 739 on the ground also
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:04 am

Organising a trip from Dublin via Doha on 14th of Oct and QR is showing as an A350. Are they due to change or is this a one off?
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:10 am

LH982 wrote:
Organising a trip from Dublin via Doha on 14th of Oct and QR is showing as an A350. Are they due to change or is this a one off?


Seems to just be the 14th and 15th
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:00 pm

DalRiada wrote:
LH982 wrote:
Organising a trip from Dublin via Doha on 14th of Oct and QR is showing as an A350. Are they due to change or is this a one off?


Seems to just be the 14th and 15th

Maybe they're trying to see if the A350 is better than the 787 for the route? If I remember correctly, didn't someone say QR was looking to boost DUB to double daily or upgrade to an A350? People here are probably sick of me mentioning TK but I remember towards the end of last summer TK brought in A321s, A321neos, an A330-200 and an A330-300 and that was supposedly to see which aircraft is most suitable for DUB as they were looking to add capacity.
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:01 pm

Looks like Ryanair strike 22/8 to go ahead according to RTE News.




Ryanair strikes: Passengers facing travel chaos with pilots to walk out for two days

We'll be bringing you the very latest updates, pictures and video on this breaking news story

Ryanair pilots have voted to strike for two days next week in a move that is likely to cause widespread disruption.

We'll be bringing you the very latest updates, pictures and video on this breaking news story.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking- ... g-18935892
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:23 pm

God bless IALPA
Salaries go up, union revenue goes up!
I wonder when is enough, actually enough?
And bugger the plans of those who actually pay the salaries!!!
 
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OA260
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Re: Irish 8/19

Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:07 pm

Ryanair Spanish cabin crew unions threaten 10 days of strikes

As talks aimed at averting a strike by Ryanair pilots in Ireland commenced on Wednesday, unions representing cabin crew working for the airline in Spain announced plans to hold 10 days of stoppages in September unless it changes plans to close several bases in the country.

www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-a ... 4?mode=amp
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:37 pm

Let them do their worst. Ryanair will work around it.
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:06 am

I've never experienced anything this bad - Aer Lingus passenger travelling to scatter ashes in Ireland slams airline over lost luggage

An Aer Lingus passenger has told of his frustration after the airline lost his luggage during an important journey to Ireland where his family planned to inter his mother-in-law's ashes.

John Murray, who grew up in Ireland but moved with his wife and three children to Minneapolis, United States ten years ago, has slammed the airline after they charged him for rescheduling a flight to Ireland which Aer Lingus had cancelled, and then for losing his luggage once he finally made it to Dublin.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/ive ... 04543.html



Investigation launched after DUP councillor takes airport-funded trip

A standards watchdog has confirmed they have launched an investigation after a DUP councillor took a trip paid for by Belfast International Airport.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/n ... 02711.html



CityJet start-up set to link London City with Antwerp

Air Antwerp, a small start-up venture between Dublin-based carrier CityJet and KLM, has secured its air operator's certificate from Belgian authorities.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/busine ... 00457.html
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:29 am

Shannon is closed this am after an Omni 763 was seen to have smoke coming from its u/c while taxying out. As of now, the airport is closed. Thankfully, it's not believed that there are any injuries. All pax and crew safely evacuated.

https://news.sky.com/story/shannon-flig ... t-11785638

(Edit: as an update to the above, it now appears that one of the cockpit windows was not securely shut; the crew elected to abort, which resulted in smoke from undercarriage).
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:08 am

kaitak wrote:
Shannon is closed this am after an Omni 763 was seen to have smoke coming from its u/c while taxying out. As of now, the airport is closed. Thankfully, it's not believed that there are any injuries. All pax and crew safely evacuated.

https://news.sky.com/story/shannon-flig ... t-11785638

(Edit: as an update to the above, it now appears that one of the cockpit windows was not securely shut; the crew elected to abort, which resulted in smoke from undercarriage).

Glad to hear no injuries reported. Substantial disruption though for the time of day. AA89 (PHL) diverted to MAN, UA25 (EWR) went to DUB. DL206 (JFK) circling off the west coast. The morning EI flights to/from LHR, BHX and EDI all cancelled.
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:56 am

World First: Belfast Airport Adopts Next-gen Veovo Revenue Management and Passenger Engagement Solutions

Veovo's next-generation platform is the new heart of Belfast International Airport's operations and revenue generation, providing automation, insight and predictability to boost efficiency and passenger satisfaction.

Belfast International Airport is first in the world to adopt Veovo's next-generation R8 Revenue Management and Passenger Engagement applications, which from part of Veovo's Predictive Collaboration Platform for optimized airport operations.

This application automates the end-to-end billing cycle, speeds time-to-invoice, and provides the charging flexibility needed to support airline contracts. The Passenger Engagement solution, in turn, will revitalize Belfast's passenger communications- new airport-wide flight display screens will offer content tailored by location and traveler needs.

"With traffic up 43 percent in the past three years, we urgently needed a modern, open platform to help us handle increased passenger numbers and simultaneously deliver a better traveler experiencing," said Chris McGarry, IT manager at Belfast International Airport. "The Veovo Predictive Collaboration Platform is unparalleled in providing real-time situational clarity and clever automation, while also lowering our operating costs. It's a great foundation for future growth and passenger engagement innovation."

www.aviationpros.com/airports/press-rel ... -solutions

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Government says it could cut PSO subsidies if more passengers flew
Spending review of regional airports shows Waterford to be most expensive per passenger

Passenger growth on State-subsidised flights from Dublin to both Kerry and Donegal could allow the Government to cut the funding it gives the airline operating those routes, a review has found.

A study of the regional airports programme produced by the Department of Transport shows that the public service obligation (PSO) routes have seen significant passenger growth in recent years with subsidies per passenger decreasing “substantially” since 2012.

Taxpayers paid €14 for every passenger that landed in Donegal Airport last year, just under €4 for every passenger that landed in Kerry Airport and €3 for all of those that landed in Ireland West Airport Knock. The funding includes capital and operational grants, while for Kerry and Donegal it also covers funds required to operate the PSO routes.

While Donegal was the most expensive of the operational regional airports in the State in 2018, when Waterford Airport last had flights it cost taxpayers considerably more per passenger.

www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-a ... -1.3987297
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:13 am

OA260 wrote:
Government says it could cut PSO subsidies if more passengers flew
Spending review of regional airports shows Waterford to be most expensive per passenger

Passenger growth on State-subsidised flights from Dublin to both Kerry and Donegal could allow the Government to cut the funding it gives the airline operating those routes, a review has found.

A study of the regional airports programme produced by the Department of Transport shows that the public service obligation (PSO) routes have seen significant passenger growth in recent years with subsidies per passenger decreasing “substantially” since 2012.

Taxpayers paid €14 for every passenger that landed in Donegal Airport last year, just under €4 for every passenger that landed in Kerry Airport and €3 for all of those that landed in Ireland West Airport Knock. The funding includes capital and operational grants, while for Kerry and Donegal it also covers funds required to operate the PSO routes.

While Donegal was the most expensive of the operational regional airports in the State in 2018, when Waterford Airport last had flights it cost taxpayers considerably more per passenger.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/tran ... -1.3987297

I wonder if the growth of passenger numbers on DUB-KIR and DUB-CFN is down to connecting passengers using EI to connect at DUB to transatlantic services. It's interesting to note that 2012 was also the year that all remaining mainline Aer Arann (now Stobart) routes came under the Aer Lingus Regional franchise that enabled one-ticket connections via DUB. I know KIR-DUB-JFK/BOS/ORD has become quite a popular option for many USA-bound passengers originating in this part of the country.
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:28 pm

Ryanair to seek High Court injunction blocking Irish pilot strike

Ryanair has been granted permission by the High Court to seek an order to prevent industrial action next week.

The application for an injunction to stop some of the airline's Irish based pilots from going on strike, will be heard on Monday morning.

Directly-employed Ryanair pilots based in Ireland, who are members of the Irish Air Line Pilots' Association (IALPA), are to strike for 48 hours from midnight on 22 August.

Earlier this week, Fórsa, the parent trade union of IALPA, served the company with notice of industrial action next Thursday and Friday, over a dispute about pay and conditions.

www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/0816/1069 ... ike-court/
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:17 am

The IAA publishes it's Annual Safety Performance Review 2018

www.iaa.ie/docs/default-source/publicat ... =c7b00f3_0
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:57 pm

Aer Lingus appears to have changed flight numbers on some of its west coast flights (most others seem unaffected).

SFO will be 61/60
LAX will be 69/68
SEA will be 53/52

I guess they're holding a block of two digit numbers for future expansion?

Apart from YUL, not sure if any other expansion planned for 2020; IAG seems to want to trim back capacity growth.
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:08 pm

kaitak wrote:
Aer Lingus appears to have changed flight numbers on some of its west coast flights (most others seem unaffected).

SFO will be 61/60
LAX will be 69/68
SEA will be 53/52

I guess they're holding a block of two digit numbers for future expansion?

Apart from YUL, not sure if any other expansion planned for 2020; IAG seems to want to trim back capacity growth.


Posted here a week or two back, also changing the numbers for the IAD and YYZ flights.
 
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Re: Irish 8/19

Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:40 pm

eidvm wrote:
kaitak wrote:
Aer Lingus appears to have changed flight numbers on some of its west coast flights (most others seem unaffected).

SFO will be 61/60
LAX will be 69/68
SEA will be 53/52

I guess they're holding a block of two digit numbers for future expansion?

Apart from YUL, not sure if any other expansion planned for 2020; IAG seems to want to trim back capacity growth.


Posted here a week or two back, also changing the numbers for the IAD and YYZ flights.


What are IAD and YYZ changing to? i missed that post! I use EI to home to DUB from YYZ all the time!

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