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Updated: American Airlines Increases International Presence, Makes First Entrance Into Africa

Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:58 am

A big announcement coming soon from AA?

JonNYC writes on Twitter that according to a well informed person: “this announcement is going to be a big sweeping thing rounding up everything - Europe, Oceania, supposedly Japan stuff too."

He also adds: “I consider it confirmed that this will be an all-encompassing and "very large" announce "covering everything."”

Thoughts?


https://twitter.com/xjonnyc/status/1158 ... 39872?s=21

https://twitter.com/xjonnyc/status/1158 ... 26273?s=21

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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:00 am

777-9 orders?
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:02 am

Wouldn’t really call it an rumor. Vasu hinted on twitter of an announcement soon. Pretty much confirming a huge route shakeup like last year.
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:07 am

Too bad it won’t be about an improvement in their domestic product.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:07 am

Parker finally gets booted out?

Fingers crossed...
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:08 am

PHX de-hubbing LOL....
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:10 am

They're rebranding as US AIrways.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:13 am

Well they’ve only got so many planes so it’ll have to be give and take.
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:15 am

TTailedTiger wrote:
Parker finally gets booted out?

Fingers crossed...


Oh man. That would be too amazing, which guarantees that it happen. Seemingly nothing can get Dougie fired at this point.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:17 am

They’re gonna give up on Boston and leave it to DL and B6 :lol: :bouncy:
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:18 am

Given the QF JV, I’m sure there will be something to Oceana.
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:18 am

They will never ever order a Boeing plane again? :D
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:19 am

August/September is the around the time they announce next year's summer INTL schedule, correct?
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:21 am

Finally admitting defeat in JFK.
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:27 am

Well if it covers oceana and “Japan stuff too” then...

They’re merging with QANTAS! :lol:

And, they’re going to rebrand as Pan Am airlines!
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:27 am

This is totally not it, but I wish American would expand at IAD to compliment DCA. Though with Charlotte down the road, probably never going to happen.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:30 am

Ramp up of JFK flying to 450-500 daily departures?
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:33 am

I bet its going to be high income countries similar to the USA in the VISA Waiver Program and Israel. That means Europe & Oceania. LAX-MEL (take a few QF frequencies), PHL-TLV (back again and they can take the profitable cargo on the 788 or 789, when US was flying this they were leaving behind valuable cargo everyday due to the 332's performance limitations), PHL-PRG and PHL-BUD stay and a big shocker: PHL-NCE. Also DTW-LAX.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:35 am

Probably will involve a bunch of new seasonal European routes from PHL and maybe somewhere else. As for Japan, maybe they could be launching PHX-NRT? Or maybe dropping ORD-NRT. I remember something about AA considering LAX-BSB in conjunction with QF. Maybe that'll be announced in this one.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:37 am

They are selling the airline to the Chinese, under a shell company based in Orange County, and becoming solely a rewards company?

What's huge nowadays? A CEO departure would have rumors swirling around for certain. I'd say, they are buying Alaska Airlines. Or, they are going to all biofuel on all flights. Or, they are announcing a new policy that all flights will return to their destination if even one passenger is "triggered".

The options are limitless.
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:44 am

"Japan stuff"...

Has to be MIA-NRT :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :duck: (More likely they'll just announce moving flights to HND).

Oceania...well, LAX-MEL? DFW-MEL (Do AA even have a plane that can fly that?)?

More than likely it's much ado about nothing.

EDIT:
From another thread:
https://twitter.com/americanair/status/ ... 52642?s=21
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:51 am

zakuivcustom, there is NO market for MIA-NRT/HND and any Latin connections to the major cities can be handled via DFW or LAX. DFW-HND is launched (and one of the DFW-NRT frequencies is cancelled, DFW-NRT is timed for on-ward Asia connections with JL, DFW-HND obviously for O&D).
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:58 am

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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:00 am

x1234 wrote:
zakuivcustom, there is NO market for MIA-NRT/HND

That is false but whatever you say.
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:02 am

jetblueguy22 wrote:
Finally admitting defeat in JFK.

Perhaps this is the rumored sale of JFK slots to UA. Perhaps in trade for LAX gates.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:04 am

Miami wrote:

You would think that AA would have a picture of the plane, painted in their new colors, on the top of their official twitter page. Not the old colors.
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:04 am

Why do I get the feeling that this “huge” announcement will be on par to United’s “historic” route announcement last December...?
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:04 am

Miami wrote:
A big announcement coming soon from AA?

Thoughts?


AA will probably add DFW-ALB, DFW-CHO, DFW-PWM, DFW-PVD, DFW-ROC, and DFW-SYR nonstop service as ALB, CHO, PWM, PVD, ROC, and SYR are the top domestic destinations traveled to from DFW that AA doesn't currently serve nonstop from its DFW hub.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:05 am

zakuivcustom wrote:
"Japan stuff"...

Has to be MIA-NRT :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :duck: (More likely they'll just announce moving flights to HND).

Oceania...well, LAX-MEL? DFW-MEL (Do AA even have a plane that can fly that?)?

More than likely it's much ado about nothing.

EDIT:
From another thread:
https://twitter.com/americanair/status/ ... 52642?s=21


You forgot MIA-MEL! :D
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:13 am

kavok wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that this “huge” announcement will be on par to United’s “historic” route announcement last December...?

Agreed, I'm expecting to be a bit underwhelmed.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:17 am

BroadwayLimited wrote:
Miami wrote:

You would think that AA would have a picture of the plane, painted in their new colors, on the top of their official twitter page. Not the old colors.


No, that’s very intentional. It’s to honor the MD-80 retirement next month.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:20 am

BroadwayLimited wrote:
Miami wrote:

You would think that AA would have a picture of the plane, painted in their new colors, on the top of their official twitter page. Not the old colors.

Saying goodbye to the MD-80.
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:42 am

Admitting they made big mistake and will be taking the A350 after all! :shhh:
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:54 am

How exciting!
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:58 am

enilria wrote:
jetblueguy22 wrote:
Finally admitting defeat in JFK.

Perhaps this is the rumored sale of JFK slots to UA. Perhaps in trade for LAX gates.


I don't see why AA would give anything to UA at JFK - the obvious routes UA would start are JFK-SFO and JFK-LAX, which are probably some of the stronger performers for AA at JFK...

I also don't believe UA's going to cede gates to anyone at LAX. Their current operation requires all the gates they have at the peak times of day.
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:02 am

If it has to do with Japan, I wonder if that is where some of these airplanes are coming from to fly to Australia as part of the JV. I wonder with DFW-HND and LAX-HND 2x happening, we will see an end of NRT service altogether and some flights move to JL operation. Its already happened with ORD and JFK! That would free up 787 and 777 capacity to go down under.

My reach reaction is that AA has some new strategy to increase FF loyalty. The Oasis reconfigurations have been halted due to frequent flier feedback, and none of the 737s with screens have been reconfigured. Meanwhile, United is making a concerted effort to add more F seats across the mainline domestic fleet. I wonder if this announcement is the response from AA about taking the carrier in a more premium direction again.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:03 am

Sightseer wrote:
kavok wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that this “huge” announcement will be on par to United’s “historic” route announcement last December...?

Agreed, I'm expecting to be a bit underwhelmed.


I think this one will be better than the UA SFO expansion (which was most disappointing because half of the routes had already been announced), and more in line with AA's international expansion announcement from last year (DFW-DUB, DFW/CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH, PHL-TXL/BLQ/DBV, etc.). Besides the already-announced move of a few NRT flights to HND, I think they'll include at least one new route to Oceania in cooperation with QF, and at least a few new transatlantic routes. I don't think domestic expansion will be a big part of this particular announcement.
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:08 am

I think it’s pretty obvious. AA just got route authority for LAX-HND & DFW-HND. There’s your Japan mystery. Second, the QF JV has received final approval, and AA stated that they’ll be announcing new routes when that happens. Probably Brisbane, Melbourne etc. third, they’ll probably add a new EU seasonal destination out of PHL. Nice announcement and exciting for sure, hardly a mystery though. Don’t expect any AC orders as that literally just came down the pipe (a321XLR).
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:09 am

mhkansan wrote:
If it has to do with Japan, I wonder if that is where some of these airplanes are coming from to fly to Australia as part of the JV. I wonder with DFW-HND and LAX-HND 2x happening, we will see an end of NRT service altogether and some flights move to JL operation. Its already happened with ORD and JFK! That would free up 787 and 777 capacity to go down under.


I was just looking through the November schedules earlier, and it appears AA has at least 5 789 frames spare for the winter as of now. They could add LAX-BNE or LAX-MEL for Winter 2020, no problem.

If AA ends up cutting Japan capacity (or at least shifting more to JL), it will be for the Summer 2020 schedule. Any spare capacity would likely be used to fund transatlantic adds, IMO.
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:15 am

How is the LAX>SYD performing for AA after the change of equipment? Can the 787-9 make more money on that route than the 77W? I really like seeing the US3 parked up in Sydney.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:23 am

Expanded JV including Qantas and China Southern (Covers Oceania)
Expanded Europe flights outta PHL and maybe an expansion to whatever JV/partnership they have with Japan Airlines
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:25 am

ORD being downgraded to domestic only hub with no mainline and going to an all RJ operation??? :rotfl:
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:30 am

FSDan wrote:
Sightseer wrote:
kavok wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that this “huge” announcement will be on par to United’s “historic” route announcement last December...?

Agreed, I'm expecting to be a bit underwhelmed.


I think this one will be better than the UA SFO expansion (which was most disappointing because half of the routes had already been announced), and more in line with AA's international expansion announcement from last year (DFW-DUB, DFW/CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH, PHL-TXL/BLQ/DBV, etc.). Besides the already-announced move of a few NRT flights to HND, I think they'll include at least one new route to Oceania in cooperation with QF, and at least a few new transatlantic routes. I don't think domestic expansion will be a big part of this particular announcement.


I wouldn’t be so sure that they’re moving NRT flights to HND, just because that’s what Delta did. Those HND slots could easily be growth.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:34 am

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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:58 am

Somehow I doubt we'll see any of the more ambitious things occasionally floated like MIA-JNB (too risk averse), PHX/MIA/CLT/PHL-NRT, ORD-India, or LAX-SIN (Asia yields are in the crapper). I could see some medium risk stuff though like Morocco, Israel, Jordan. or Paraguay. My guesses are something like:

PHL-KRK/HEL/BHX as summer seasonals, maybe also a JFK route like JFK-LYS/VLC/BIO
resumption of PHL-TLV
addition of PHL/JFK-CMN
Some new weekend services CLT-Caribbean
MIA to...let's say ADZ, BGA, and ASU
LAX-MEL; LAX-AKL goes year round
If they are to do anything in East Asia, I would think it would be LAS-NRT, but I have doubts about that. Most likely just a rehash of the new HND services.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:01 am

This is the next tweet from AA, it's not just this?

http://news.aa.com/news/news-details/20 ... fault.aspx
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:03 am

They're announcing BFL-ORD/MIA/CLT/JFK non-stop?

They're installing the MAX's contortionist lavatories throughout their fleet?

I'm being silly. But no more so than "a big announcement is coming!" Vaguebook post. The more the build-up, the more the chance of a "meh" reaction.

But whatever it is, I wish AA luck.
 
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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:04 am

Lets be real here. There are only three "huge" things that AA can do at this point.

1) Fire Dougie
2) Flights to Africa
3) Flights to India

Everything else is shuffling the deck chairs.

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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:04 am

hz747300 wrote:
They are selling the airline to the Chinese, under a shell company based in Orange County, and becoming solely a rewards company?

What's huge nowadays? A CEO departure would have rumors swirling around for certain. I'd say, they are buying Alaska Airlines. Or, they are going to all biofuel on all flights. Or, they are announcing a new policy that all flights will return to their destination if even one passenger is "triggered".

The options are limitless.


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Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:05 am

^^ Hmm, could be naming the new Rams stadium the American Airlines stadium in Los Angeles
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