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Updated: Airbus plans to open new A321neo assembly line in Toulouse

Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:34 am

https://www.air-cosmos.com/article/lairbus-a321-sera-aussi-assembl-toulouse-21541

Airbus board of directors announced the launch of a study to open an A321neo "highly-automated" production line in the Lagardere plant, where the A380 is currently produced.

Not a lot of information about this news, but one of the main work union (CFE-CGC) relayed it.

For the moment, the A321 is only produced in Hamburg.
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Re: Airbus studying an A321neo line in Toulouse

Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:40 am

That sounds like an additional production line, for two in Toulouse and five globally.
 
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JerseyFlyer wrote:
That sounds like an additional production line, for two in Toulouse and five globally.


The current number of Assembly Lines is:

Toulouse: 2 (A320)
Hamburg: 4 (A319/A320/A321)
Mobile: 1 (A320)
Tianjin: 1 (A320)

Given the huge size of the Lagardere building, I think that 2 lines can fit inside. The main barrier is the human resources, and the work sharing between France and Germany.
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That sounds like an additional production line, for two in Toulouse and five globally.


current setup:
2 FAL lines in Toulouse ( the first ones, can only do A320 )
4 FAL lines in XFW ( can do full range. The 4th one is the newest setup with increased automation.)
1 FAL line in TJN ( copy of XFW#3 afaik )
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all seem to be sized for ~~8 frames / month each. XFW#4 may have more headroom? no idea.
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Re: Airbus studying an A321neo line in Toulouse

Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:27 am

Glad Airbus managed to get the german unions to go onboard the project. This was for long the main barrier to get an A321 FAL in TLS

Great news !
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Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:28 am

I thought Mobile was building A321’s for Delta?
But you guys have above said that it only builds A320’s?
 
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I thought Mobile was building A321’s for Delta?
But you guys have above said that it only builds A320’s?


You are correct, Mobile is also building A321's.
 
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Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:49 am

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Glad Airbus managed to get the german unions to go onboard the project. This was for long the main barrier to get an A321 FAL in TLS

Great news !


It's just a feasibility study. The french work union named in the news (not the most powerful) is "confident", but it's hard to tell at which point of the process they are.
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Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:15 am

It makes sense for when the A-321 becomes the most popular version it could mean Toulouse would get a too small share of the production.
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Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:32 am

I'm sure they can get some more German employees to come settle in Toulouse... it's really not a bad place to live.

Given that it is meant to be a highly automated line, I suppose the goal will be for Airbus to have as few human workers as possible in there.
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I'm sure they can get some more German employees to come settle in Toulouse... it's really not a bad place to live.


Indeed, only a couple driving hours from the stunning Pyrénées or the Mediterranean coast, with the douceur and joie de vivre under the soleil du midi, beautiful old streets of Toulouse, vibrant cultural life, warm chocolatines, fine wines... who wouldn't like that?
 
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Will it cover all narrowbody models through the A318?
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Past due. Production will continue towards a higher fraction of A321s.

Automation is key.

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Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:52 am

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Indeed, only a couple driving hours from the stunning Pyrénées or the Mediterranean coast, with the douceur and joie de vivre under the soleil du midi, beautiful old streets of Toulouse, vibrant cultural life, warm chocolatines, fine wines... who wouldn't like that?


I second that! At the beginning of the A380 program, the Lagardere plant was full of german workers, some buyed houses in the surroundings.

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Will it cover all narrowbody models through the A318?


Only the A321 is mentionned. No business case for A318 and A319, and there is already enough A320 lines.
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Re: Airbus studying an A321neo line in Toulouse

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:05 am

What about an A220 line to help the production ramp up?
 
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What about an A220 line to help the production ramp up?


Maybe the next thing at Finkenwerder? They can also expand. Who knows...
 
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What about an A220 line to help the production ramp up?


Maybe the next thing at Finkenwerder? They can also expand. Who knows...


I do not think so. Which is one of the limiting points now? Experienced workers?
First, Airbus is bound by contract to Montreal/Mirabel in Canada for the next decades. Canada has not sold the A220 program to Airbus for 1 $, they have bought in into the Airbus producing countries for just one . pretty sure, it is not foreseen to transfer the production to Europe (by contract).
Second: Mitsubishi has recently bought for several hundred million $ the rest of the civil aviation program from Bombardier. They were only interested in the maintenance program and have already announced to close the CRJ family production. So in 2 years many employers will loose the job as only few will be left to build some parts. We can see here the difference; one is sold by one $, they other has been bought by a company for several hundred million bucks...
Third: Airbus has already bought (or are since begin of 2019 trying to buy) big areas around the existing Mirabel Airbus/Bombardier facilities. We are talking about something of 800% of the already existing area.
Fourth: Many of the vendors are located in Canada, at or nearby Montreal. There are already established short transport-ways. only few parts are build in Europe (wings in Belfast and fins by Leonardo in Italy), and for many parts, the vendor chain is independent of the Airbus family.
Fifth: in few years, there will be many excellent trained highly experienced air industry workers looking around for a new job, enough for one or two additional FALs.

As the A220 is better selling as expected (or as I have expected), Airbus shall start to think about to build a second A220 FAL in Montreal. And as Canada is now part of the Airbus family and as there is (or soon will) many high experienced staff be available; additional Airbus is bound by contracts for decades; why not to build up more there?
 
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Any relationship between this and the launch of the XLR? Center section of the XLR will be majorly different (pressure vessel roof over the main gear bay will need to extend back to near the aft hold door, and the two forward ACT slots in the aft hold are replaced with an integral tank). Presumably some systems will need to be rerouted. At a guess Airbus might want to have XLR production concentrated on a single assembly line. And (if this is going to be the most profitable variant of the A321) have it on the most efficient line.
 
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Indeed, only a couple driving hours from the stunning Pyrénées or the Mediterranean coast, with the douceur and joie de vivre under the soleil du midi, beautiful old streets of Toulouse, vibrant cultural life, warm chocolatines, fine wines... who wouldn't like that?


Hamburg isn't a bad place neither.
 
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Past due. Production will continue towards a higher fraction of A321s.

Automation is key.

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I'd imagine eventually 321s will constitute the majority of A32x prodcution.
 
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This is exactly what I was thinking they needed - the writing has been on the wall since the NEO orders really started to pour in 1yr+ ago. With the success of the LR and XLR, and "recent events" - the more 3XXneo's they can build, the more they'll simply be printing cash.

Bumping up the production rate at all facilities and getting an additional one on-line ASAP should be the absolutely top priority for Airbus right now. It's a great position to be in - they've got the resources to do it, with the 380 closing up and zero large-scale / R&D projects at the moment.
 
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Are engines still a bottleneck with A320 NEO production?
 
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Are engines still a bottleneck with A320 NEO production?

That's a good question - and I'm assuming as long as the MAX FAL remains open, engine orders to Boeing are still constant (ie no extra capacity for AB aircraft?)
 
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Are the US and Chinese lines only producing aircraft intended for those countries respectively or are they producing for whomever, depending on the way the delivery schedules fall?
 
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Glad Airbus managed to get the german unions to go onboard the project. This was for long the main barrier to get an A321 FAL in TLS

Great news !


it's the French union supporting it, I'm sure the Germany unions have high reservations to say the least
 
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JerseyFlyer wrote:
That sounds like an additional production line, for two in Toulouse and five globally.


The current number of Assembly Lines is:

Toulouse: 2 (A320)
Hamburg: 4 (A319/A320/A321)
Mobile: 1 (A320)
Tianjin: 1 (A320)

Given the huge size of the Lagardere building, I think that 2 lines can fit inside. The main barrier is the human resources, and the work sharing between France and Germany.


Mobile and Tianjin are only final assembly lines....
 
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Are the US and Chinese lines only producing aircraft intended for those countries respectively or are they producing for whomever, depending on the way the delivery schedules fall?

Chinese lines started supplying A320 to non-China based airline of recent. AirAsia was the first recipient back in Oct 2017.

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Are engines still a bottleneck with A320 NEO production?

That's a good question - and I'm assuming as long as the MAX FAL remains open, engine orders to Boeing are still constant (ie no extra capacity for AB aircraft?)


I would expect some sort of ramp up on that front. The C919 and MS-21 are slowly reaching a point where they will need a steady stream of engine deliveries too.
 
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Airbus board of directors announced the launch of a study to open an A321neo "highly-automated" production line in the Lagardere plant, where the A380 is currently produced.

Makes perfect sense.

The shutdown of the A380 frees up workers and frees up space.

Best thing to do is reuse that space making your most popular model using your newest production line tech.

Same thing happened when Boeing reused 757 factory space to make 737s.

It seems the only issue would be making sure the German unions don't throw a hissy fit.

Is there any work that can be sent Germany's way to settle the score?

I thought the cost for doing A350 in TLS was that XFW got more A32x work, no?

In the case of A380 they "split the baby" (ref: Solomon) and gave half to XFW and half to TLS.

I bet management still regrets the way that went down.
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Are engines still a bottleneck with A320 NEO production?


No. The issue is they can’t make the cabin flex work. It’s a disaster manufacturing wise.
 
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Maybe this is a silly question, but can any A32X be built in those assembly lines? or a A320 line is gonna be A320 only, and so on?
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Any relationship between this and the launch of the XLR? Center section of the XLR will be majorly different (pressure vessel roof over the main gear bay will need to extend back to near the aft hold door, and the two forward ACT slots in the aft hold are replaced with an integral tank). Presumably some systems will need to be rerouted. At a guess Airbus might want to have XLR production concentrated on a single assembly line. And (if this is going to be the most profitable variant of the A321) have it on the most efficient line.


I'm not sure I see the centre section as being majorly different from an FAL viewpoint.
From a fuselage section construction viewpoint - yes.
But that is upstream in the manufacturing process.

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I don't think the work load devision between Germany and France is much of an issue:

- It's not a moving of production, but expansion.
- It would replace A380 production.

I think it would be a non-issue.
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it's the French union supporting it, I'm sure the Germany unions have high reservations to say the least


More like not.

Every FAL workplace creates how many jobs in the "back factory, supplier and stuff" alley? 8..10?
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JerseyFlyer wrote:
That sounds like an additional production line, for two in Toulouse and five globally.


current setup:
2 FAL lines in Toulouse ( the first ones, can only do A320 )
4 FAL lines in XFW ( can do full range. The 4th one is the newest setup with increased automation.)
1 FAL line in TJN ( copy of XFW#3 afaik )
1 FAL line in Mobile ( dito )
all seem to be sized for ~~8 frames / month each. XFW#4 may have more headroom? no idea.

Perhaps the new lines can be used to replace/upgrade the old Toulouse A320 FAL. They are AFAIK those with the least automation.
XFW#4 was planned for 10 / month, although I'm not sure if that is still the case considering the added work for the new A321 variants.
 
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Maybe that with the german Enders airbus france endured some strange choices and now the balance could move back a bit.
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Maybe that with the german Enders airbus france endured some strange choices and now the balance could move back a bit.


What were the strange choices? Like centering all the headquarters Airbus in Toulouse?
 
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mxaxai wrote:
WIederling wrote:
JerseyFlyer wrote:
That sounds like an additional production line, for two in Toulouse and five globally.

current setup:
2 FAL lines in Toulouse ( the first ones, can only do A320 )
4 FAL lines in XFW ( can do full range. The 4th one is the newest setup with increased automation.)
1 FAL line in TJN ( copy of XFW#3 afaik )
1 FAL line in Mobile ( dito )
all seem to be sized for ~~8 frames / month each. XFW#4 may have more headroom? no idea.

Perhaps the new lines can be used to replace/upgrade the old Toulouse A320 FAL. They are AFAIK those with the least automation.
XFW#4 was planned for 10 / month, although I'm not sure if that is still the case considering the added work for the new A321 variants.


AFAIK the FAL story is much more complicated.
The two Toulouse FAL's have re-purposed the A300/A310 FAL, the building is height constrained for a large part. That and the tooling; make it only suited for A320's. Only since the ramp-up from 52 to 60 cabin outfitting also takes place in Toulouse. Previously the assembled A320's were flown to Hamburg for cabin outfitting and painting. The tooling also has been replaced in Toulouse.
The Hamburg FAL 1&2 use much less space than all other FAL's, thus have a lower production capability. They were build at A319 and A321 introduction. AFAIK the majority of the FAL1/2 building is used for cabin outfitting.
Hamburg FAL3 and the FAL's in Tianjin (China) and Mobile (USA) have the same layout, but the Hamburg FAL3 runs at about double the max rate of the other two. AFAIK Hamburg FAL3 is running at a higher rate than Hamburg FAL4 (rate 10).
Hamburg FAL4 uses the space of two A380 hangars. The A380 FAL complex is the size of eight A380 hangars, thus the potential is three or four A320/A321 FAL's with rate 10 capability. But a replacement of the A330/A340 FAL and two A320/A321 FAL's is also possible.
All my thoughts without company insight.
Airbus could also decide to use the more automated tooling introduced in Hamburg FAL4 but with a flow more like the A350's. One A380 hangar for about four fuselage outfitting (Galley & lavatories) and fusalage joining stations. Another A380 hangar with two wing joining & tail joining stations. And a third hangar for cabin outfitting and engine installation. I guess with three A380 hangars this could reach rate >16.
Isn't the A321 production problem currently the FLEX galley installation?
 
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I don't think the work load devision between Germany and France is much of an issue:

- It's not a moving of production, but expansion.
- It would replace A380 production.

I think it would be a non-issue.


I'm not so sure.

Hamburg is also losing production capacity with A380 close down (each A380 is flown to Hamburg and needs 5 - 6 months work there).

If I was a German union guy, I'd bring to the table that production capacity lost with A380 would be replaced by A350 and A330 sales. And that all is (from FAL point of view) concentrated in Toulouse.

I can see the German unions taking position to let Toulouse concentrate on Wide-Body, and Hamburg on Narrow Body.
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Are engines still a bottleneck with A320 NEO production?


No. The issue is they can’t make the cabin flex work. It’s a disaster manufacturing wise.

Can you expand on that?
What are the issues?
 
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I don't think the work load devision between Germany and France is much of an issue:

- It's not a moving of production, but expansion.
- It would replace A380 production.

I think it would be a non-issue.


I'm not so sure.

Hamburg is also losing production capacity with A380 close down (each A380 is flown to Hamburg and needs 5 - 6 months work there).

If I was a German union guy, I'd bring to the table that production capacity lost with A380 would be replaced by A350 and A330 sales. And that all is (from FAL point of view) concentrated in Toulouse.

I can see the German unions taking position to let Toulouse concentrate on Wide-Body, and Hamburg on Narrow Body.

I wonder how that works out from management's point of view.

After decades of making these aircraft, they clearly have lots of data on local costs and productivity.

If they had no union issue to consider, would they prefer to move to widebody vs narrowbody setup to lower costs?

In the days of the yellow vest I think it'd be hard to make that happen though.

Someone on a.net joked that the next major Airbus factory will need to straddle the FR/DE border!
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Any relationship between this and the launch of the XLR? Center section of the XLR will be majorly different (pressure vessel roof over the main gear bay will need to extend back to near the aft hold door, and the two forward ACT slots in the aft hold are replaced with an integral tank). Presumably some systems will need to be rerouted. At a guess Airbus might want to have XLR production concentrated on a single assembly line. And (if this is going to be the most profitable variant of the A321) have it on the most efficient line.


I'm not sure I see the centre section as being majorly different from an FAL viewpoint.
From a fuselage section construction viewpoint - yes.
But that is upstream in the manufacturing process.

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Aaahh yes, wasn't thinking. So all the centre sections are built in Hamburg by the look of it. Presumably same will be true of the XLR versions.
 
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Are engines still a bottleneck with A320 NEO production?


No. The issue is they can’t make the cabin flex work. It’s a disaster manufacturing wise.

Can you expand on that?
What are the issues?


They weren’t prepared for the complexity of ramping up the ACF line. ACF allows for more customization in the LOPA, and it also removed the 2L and 2E doors and increased the size of the overwing exits. They’re signficantly delayed in getting these airplanes to customers. IAG cited their inability to deliver an airplane on time as why they went with the MAX (which should tell you how little confidence IAG has in Airbus).
 
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They weren’t prepared for the complexity of ramping up the ACF line. ACF allows for more customization in the LOPA, and it also removed the 2L and 2E doors and increased the size of the overwing exits. They’re signficantly delayed in getting these airplanes to customers. IAG cited their inability to deliver an airplane on time as why they went with the MAX (which should tell you how little confidence IAG has in Airbus).

Thanks for your informative post.

For those like me behind the curve:

LOPA stands for “Location of Passenger Accommodations”, which is basically an engineering drawing of the interior design of an aircraft.

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ACF: Airbus Cabin Flex
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catiii wrote:
ACF allows for more customization in the LOPA, and it also removed the 2L and 2E doors and increased the size of the overwing exits.


Weren't excessive/expansive customization options one source of PITA for the A380 production?
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Re: Airbus studying an A321neo line in Toulouse

Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:38 pm

catiii wrote:
CaptCoolHand wrote:
catiii wrote:

No. The issue is they can’t make the cabin flex work. It’s a disaster manufacturing wise.

Can you expand on that?
What are the issues?


They weren’t prepared for the complexity of ramping up the ACF line. ACF allows for more customization in the LOPA, and it also removed the 2L and 2E doors and increased the size of the overwing exits. They’re signficantly delayed in getting these airplanes to customers. IAG cited their inability to deliver an airplane on time as why they went with the MAX (which should tell you how little confidence IAG has in Airbus).

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Re: Airbus studying an A321neo line in Toulouse

Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:26 am

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... Canada has not sold the A220 program to Airbus for 1 $, they have bought in into the Airbus producing countries for just one . ...
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Fifth: in few years, there will be many excellent trained highly experienced air industry workers looking around for a new job, enough for one or two additional FALs.
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Excellent post. I agree politics is the dominant factor.
However they have bought in into the Airbus producing countries for just one plane, not one $.
How expensive are Canadian air industry workers? I think I read once they are expensive. Anyway once they are three months unemployed their idea of appropriate salary will come down. One also mustn't forget that the execution of the C-Series was exemplary.
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Do you have some information if some other (e.g. Chinese) investor was willing to pay properly, but was excluded by politics?
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Re: Airbus studying an A321neo line in Toulouse

Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:06 am

WIederling wrote:
catiii wrote:
ACF allows for more customization in the LOPA, and it also removed the 2L and 2E doors and increased the size of the overwing exits.


Weren't excessive/expansive customization options one source of PITA for the A380 production?

That was one of the many problems that A380 faced during initial production. I read somewhere back then both TLS and HAM used different software from designing to production line, hence when the fuselage were delivered it couldn't fit, the wiring and cabling were all out of places and sequence. Whole production line suffered a meltdown. The airline request for customisation aggregated the situation. The knock on effect: the first few A380 were undesirable, hence we see them being scrapped now.

I will go dig out the article once I reached home.
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Re: Airbus studying an A321neo line in Toulouse

Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:12 am

InsideMan wrote:
euroflyer wrote:
Glad Airbus managed to get the german unions to go onboard the project. This was for long the main barrier to get an A321 FAL in TLS

Great news !


it's the French union supporting it, I'm sure the Germany unions have high reservations to say the least


Can you all tell me how much influence the French and German unions have on the location of FALs? Do they have enough power to stop a new FAL from happening?
 
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Re: Airbus studying an A321neo line in Toulouse

Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:26 am

LaunchDetected wrote:
JerseyFlyer wrote:
That sounds like an additional production line, for two in Toulouse and five globally.


The current number of Assembly Lines is:

Toulouse: 2 (A320)
Hamburg: 4 (A319/A320/A321)
Mobile: 1 (A320)
Tianjin: 1 (A320)

Given the huge size of the Lagardere building, I think that 2 lines can fit inside. The main barrier is the human resources, and the work sharing between France and Germany.


......for each of those 8 production lines, can anyone tell me which ones are running 24 hrs?

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