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Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:50 pm

Why do so many airlines out of Asia use birds on their tails, just out of curiosity. I know Singapore, Garuda, Cathay, Air China, Japan Air, etc use them
 
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:52 pm

Don't forget Air Koryo
 
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:03 pm

It's not just Asia that uses birds as logos. Think about Lufthansa, EgyptAir, SATA Air Acores, AeroMexico, etc.

I guess it has to do with the fact that birds are flying animals. Airlines fly, and flying is associated with birds. There's a reason a plane is sometimes called a bird.

However not every flying animal is a bird, according to mythology there was even a flying horse. It was called Pegasus and is now the logo of Pegasus Airlines. You guessed it, they took the name Pegasus because Pegasus flew. The flying horse Pegasus is also the logo of Iran Air.
 
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:21 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
It's not just Asia that uses birds as logos. Think about Lufthansa, EgyptAir, SATA Air Acores, AeroMexico, etc.

I guess it has to do with the fact that birds are flying animals. Airlines fly, and flying is associated with birds. There's a reason a plane is sometimes called a bird.

However not every flying animal is a bird, according to mythology there was even a flying horse. It was called Pegasus and is now the logo of Pegasus Airlines. You guessed it, they took the name Pegasus because Pegasus flew. The flying horse Pegasus is also the logo of Iran Air.


Actually the logo of Iran Air is the Huma Bird. A mythical bird.

Many of the logos are mythical birds from those countries such as the Garuda logo which is a Garuda bird.

Regarding Air China, their logo is actually a stylised VIP.
 
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:27 pm

And MU (Swallow), CA (Phoenix), ZH/Shenzhen Airlines (It's a "Peng" aka a Roc or Garuda), MF/Xiamenair (Egret), FM/Shanghai Airlines (Some bird...I've no idea what it is). HU's logo also look like a bird but I'm not 100% if it's one or not. There's MH also that use a bird as its logo/emblem.

Across the Pacific, you have AA using an Eagle as their logo also, so it's not exactly an "Asian" thing.

But yes, ultimately it comes down to the fact that airline/airplane flies much like birds.
 
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:29 pm

Bats fly too but I wonder if an airline used a bat logo if they would get sued by Time Warner?
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:51 pm

OzarkD9S wrote:
Bats fly too but I wonder if an airline used a bat logo if they would get sued by Time Warner?

As long as the logo doesn’t look too much like Batman’s logo, but still the shape of a bat, that should be fine
 
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:01 pm

A number of former airlines have used birds as well. Here in the US, Continental had the "thunderbird" logo, Ozark had swallows (symbolizing on-time arrivals like the return of the swallows to San Juan Capistrano), Eastern had a flying eagle which later got stylized, and of course North Central had Herman.

It does seem a logical choice for a logo since birds fly, though I suppose these days just about any animal can fly as an ESA!
 
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:04 pm

Cathay's logo isn't a bird. Cathay's logo is a stylized brushstroke, or what the refer to as the "brushwing".
Edit: upon further research, apparently it is supposed to resemble a bird. Learn something new every day I guess.
 
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:14 pm

seansasLCY wrote:
Regarding Air China, their logo is actually a stylised VIP.

It's actually both a stylized Phoenix and VIP.
 
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:20 pm

The historical Syndicato Condor and the leisure airline Condor have even been named after birds. Almost the same applies to the now defunct Italian airline AirOne which was a wordplay: in Italian language „airone“ means heron and they used that bird as their corporate mascot. LOT Polish Airlines has been a crane-tailed airline ever since. „La Crevette“ of Air France is just a pegasus variant and British Airways is just the SPEEDBIRD. Scarecly is at an "Asian thing" to associate planes with birds.
 
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:59 pm

Gulf Air has the falcon, their latest logo shows it off nicely

zakuivcustom wrote:
And MU (Swallow), CA (Phoenix), ZH/Shenzhen Airlines (It's a "Peng" aka a Roc or Garuda), MF/Xiamenair (Egret), FM/Shanghai Airlines (Some bird...I've no idea what it is). HU's logo also look like a bird but I'm not 100% if it's one or not. There's MH also that use a bird as its logo/emblem.

Across the Pacific, you have AA using an Eagle as their logo also, so it's not exactly an "Asian" thing.

But yes, ultimately it comes down to the fact that airline/airplane flies much like birds.


I believe the MH logo is a traditional kite from that region of Asia
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:14 pm

seemyseems wrote:
zakuivcustom wrote:
And MU (Swallow), CA (Phoenix), ZH/Shenzhen Airlines (It's a "Peng" aka a Roc or Garuda), MF/Xiamenair (Egret), FM/Shanghai Airlines (Some bird...I've no idea what it is). HU's logo also look like a bird but I'm not 100% if it's one or not. There's MH also that use a bird as its logo/emblem.

Across the Pacific, you have AA using an Eagle as their logo also, so it's not exactly an "Asian" thing.

But yes, ultimately it comes down to the fact that airline/airplane flies much like birds.


I believe the MH logo is a traditional kite from that region of Asia


Oops...you're correct. It's base on the "Wau Kucing" (Thanks, Google/Wikipedia).

SoCalPilot wrote:
seansasLCY wrote:
Regarding Air China, their logo is actually a stylised VIP.

It's actually both a stylized Phoenix and VIP.


Adding on - CA's mileage program is call "Phoenix Miles" for a reason. I actually didn't paid too much attention to the "VIP" part, until now, though.

Speaking of flag carrier - there's Air India, whose logo is "a flying swan with a wheel of Konark inside".

Over to Africa, just skimming through I saw Air Malawi, Air Zimbabwe, Air Namibia, and Air Mauritius all using a bird on their logos.

The bottom line, it's a worldwide phenomenon.
 
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:23 pm

Birds as logos was especially popular in the earlier days of aviation, hence it is typically older airlines that still use them and its prevalence in areas where newer start ups are less common and older (often government owned) airlines have not merged/let die.

Newer airlines tend to go for something more abstract as their logo, if they even have a symbol for a logo at all.
 
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:24 pm

Throwing in some more examples here...

Someone on a Facebook group pointed out that American Airlines' current livery is an eagle (red and blue being the wings, and the sticker being the beak). Not a peeling sticker, as I'd imagine...

SriLankan Airlines is a peacock.

Throw in Etihad in there as well, whilst the triangles make up the tail section, the falcon logo does still remain on the fuselage.

Kingfisher Airlines in India was a bird too, but that's gone.
 
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:39 pm

COEWRMSY wrote:
A number of former airlines have used birds as well. Here in the US, Continental had the "thunderbird" logo, Ozark had swallows (symbolizing on-time arrivals like the return of the swallows to San Juan Capistrano), Eastern had a flying eagle which later got stylized, and of course North Central had Herman.

It does seem a logical choice for a logo since birds fly, though I suppose these days just about any animal can fly as an ESA!


I think Eastern's logo was actually a falcon, not an eagle.

Regarding Japan Airlines, I was very happy when they brought back their crane symbol "Tsurumaru"!
 
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:22 pm

SoCalPilot wrote:
seansasLCY wrote:
Regarding Air China, their logo is actually a stylised VIP.

It's actually both a stylized Phoenix and VIP.


I cannot see a VIP in that logo. One needs a lot of imagination.
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:27 am

Well Qantas tried to put an end to all this bird on a plane craziness!
 
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:44 am

Surprised no one here has mentioned Cebu Pacific and their eagle logo yet. In South America, Aerolineas Argentinas and Avianca full logos also have stylized birds.

AtomicGarden wrote:
SoCalPilot wrote:
seansasLCY wrote:
Regarding Air China, their logo is actually a stylised VIP.

It's actually both a stylized Phoenix and VIP.


I cannot see a VIP in that logo. One needs a lot of imagination.


If you look very carefully, the top line kind of looks like a "V", the middle line can be seen as an "I", and the bottom with the curve at the end resembles a "P". I didn't actually notice it before this thread but when seeing the logo again it made sense.
 
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:13 am

Was United's tulip supposed to represent the wings of a certain bird?
 
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:26 am

While airlines use bird logos for their airlines, Thailand's Nok Air has a full-on bird livery on its aircraft:

 
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:40 am

Why wouldn't they? Many birds hold cultural significance in cultures all around the world, you're branding something associated with flight and they look pretty cool. One that I haven't seen mentioned here is HY's logo, which looks great and is also part of a terrific livery:

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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:00 am

PatrickZ80 wrote:
I guess it has to do with the fact that birds are flying animals. Airlines fly, and flying is associated with birds. There's a reason a plane is sometimes called a bird.

I think that's why Air New Zealand doesn't use Kiwi bird for its logo. The bird can't fly. :biggrin:
 
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:55 am

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Kingfisher Airlines in India was a bird too, but that's gone.

The "Kingfisher" name and logo though originated from the beer brand of the same name that the founder owned, it was not necessarily referencing flight.

The Air India tail also depicts a flying swan. The swan or "Hansa" has deep religious significance in Indian / Hindu culture being the vehicle of Brahma and Saraswati. The spokes in the tail depict the Konark Chakra (wheel) of the temple of Konark which has been constructed as a chariot of the Sun God.
 
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:19 am

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Was United's tulip supposed to represent the wings of a certain bird?
No it's just two intertwined U's (intertwined aka 'United'). It's not even really supposed to be a tulip, it just happens to look like one.

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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:08 am

I'm pretty sure Nok Air takes the prize for this one. Can you imagine what the real birds think when they see that
thing coming? It's going to be the bird equivalent of the Trojan horse rolling into town.
 
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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:35 am

AtomicGarden wrote:
SoCalPilot wrote:
seansasLCY wrote:
Regarding Air China, their logo is actually a stylised VIP.

It's actually both a stylized Phoenix and VIP.


I cannot see a VIP in that logo. One needs a lot of imagination.


I can see it, but whether it's intentional or wishful thinking on someone else's part, who knows? (FYI you need to be looking at the left-hand side of the tail to see it, the right-hand side has the logo flipped)

Here's another thread about it, split 50/50 regarding whether it's intentional or not:
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:23 am

BAeRJ100 wrote:
AtomicGarden wrote:
SoCalPilot wrote:
It's actually both a stylized Phoenix and VIP.


I cannot see a VIP in that logo. One needs a lot of imagination.


I can see it, but whether it's intentional or wishful thinking on someone else's part, who knows? (FYI you need to be looking at the left-hand side of the tail to see it, the right-hand side has the logo flipped)

Here's another thread about it, split 50/50 regarding whether it's intentional or not:
viewtopic.php?t=577917

Well maybe we should ask Air China and see what they have to say about it...

"Air China’s logo consists of an artistic Phoenix pattern, the Chinese name of the airline written in calligraphy by former national leader Mr. Deng Xiaoping, and "AIR CHINA" written in English. The phoenix logo is also an artistic transfiguration of the word 'VIP'."


http://www.airchina.com.cn/www/en/html/index/about_us/company_profile/
 
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:36 am

You can add TAM to the mix, back in the day
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:46 am

PatrickZ80 wrote:
It's not just Asia that uses birds as logos. Think about Lufthansa, EgyptAir, SATA Air Acores, AeroMexico, etc.

I guess it has to do with the fact that birds are flying animals. Airlines fly, and flying is associated with birds. There's a reason a plane is sometimes called a bird.

However not every flying animal is a bird, according to mythology there was even a flying horse. It was called Pegasus and is now the logo of Pegasus Airlines. You guessed it, they took the name Pegasus because Pegasus flew. The flying horse Pegasus is also the logo of Iran Air.


Well, actually, EgyptAir uses the Horus, a deity with a falcon head but human body. AeroMéxico uses the head of an Aztec warrior. So not really birds, even if they appear to be.
 
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:42 am

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Well Qantas tried to put an end to all this bird on a plane craziness!

But putting wings on an otherwise-pedestrian mammal, on the other hand... :lol:

 
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:28 am

Aegean has a bird too. In general I think that they use bird logos because birds fly, and planes fly, or something like that. Even thought birds and planes aren't the greatest mix ;)
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:49 pm

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questions wrote:
Well Qantas tried to put an end to all this bird on a plane craziness!

But putting wings on an otherwise-pedestrian mammal, on the other hand... :lol:



Good one!

According to this site, wings were on from 1947-1984.

https://1000logos.net/qantas-logo/

Looks like a pterodactyl.
 
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:01 pm

VTORD wrote:
CollegeAviator wrote:

Kingfisher Airlines in India was a bird too, but that's gone.

The "Kingfisher" name and logo though originated from the beer brand of the same name that the founder owned, it was not necessarily referencing flight.

Yup, United Breweries started off with Kingfisher beer, and then Mallya tried his hand in aviation, which went well. While not necessarily referencing flight - it still is (was) an Asian airline with a bird logo :)

Regarding Air China and VIP: I see it now, and mind is well and truly blown! :hot:
 
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According to this site, wings were on from 1947-1984.

They've been back since 2017 too, except only on the nose:
 
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La Crevette“ of Air France is just a pegasus variant


It is actually a winged seahorse from the seaplanes days.
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:29 pm

dennypayne wrote:
Ziyulu wrote:
Was United's tulip supposed to represent the wings of a certain bird?
No it's just two intertwined U's (intertwined aka 'United'). It's not even really supposed to be a tulip, it just happens to look like one.


The intertwined Us were always obvious to me. Only after joining this forum I heard about the tulip reference.
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:51 pm

Don’t forget KAC is an asian airliner has the biggest Blue Bird on its tail.
 
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:37 pm

CI has their two bird themed A350s. They were supposed to be having a competition to see what Taiwanese bird they would put on all their A350s but seems to have gone nowhere except for these two.

http://www.chinaaviationdaily.com/news/56/56795.html
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:16 pm

XAM2175 wrote:
questions wrote:
Well Qantas tried to put an end to all this bird on a plane craziness!

But putting wings on an otherwise-pedestrian mammal, on the other hand... :lol:



Kangaroos are marsupials, not mammals.
 
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:27 pm

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Kangaroos are marsupials, not mammals.

If we're being pedantic, they're both - Marsupialia is a subset (technically infraclass) of Mammalia, so all marsupials are mammals but not all mammals are marsupials.
 
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Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:08 am

Apparently Uruguay may mean “River of birds” . Here is an interesting link to the design concept for Pluna’s colourful flock of birds. It’s a shame that livery is no longer flying.

https://www.catobrandpartners.com/case- ... kes-flight
 
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Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:48 pm

Why wouldn't they, and not just Asian airlines? Birds are associated with flight- like how you might have a fish or a sea creature on the logo of a ship maker.

With that said the legacy airlines usually have a story like the examples mentioned above.

For Singapore Airlines, the bird is also meant to resemble a keris which is a Malay dagger.
That might sound weird for someone from beyond the Malay archipelago but the keris is seen as a spiritual object, not a mere weapon and is steeped in the folklore of the region.
It is also the basis of their branding.. Krisflyer etc
 
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zakuivcustom wrote:
And MU (Swallow), CA (Phoenix), ZH/Shenzhen Airlines (It's a "Peng" aka a Roc or Garuda), MF/Xiamenair (Egret), FM/Shanghai Airlines (Some bird...I've no idea what it is). HU's logo also look like a bird but I'm not 100% if it's one or not. There's MH also that use a bird as its logo/emblem.

Across the Pacific, you have AA using an Eagle as their logo also, so it's not exactly an "Asian" thing.

But yes, ultimately it comes down to the fact that airline/airplane flies much like birds.
 
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Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:33 pm

Biman Bangladesh and Regent Airways (a Bangladeshi carrier) also has got bird logos
 
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SriLankan Airlines is a peacock.

SriLankan is a chilli
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Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:21 pm

Don't forget that American Airlines also has a bird.
 
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Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:26 pm

In New Zealand, NAC’s logo was a Kuaka/Godwit:



TEAL’s logo was a Maroro/Flying Fish, referencing the airline’s origin as a flying boat operator:



When TEAL became Air New Zealand in 1965, the Maroro was retained in the livery



Following the merger with NAC in 1978 the Kuaka was added, and the two remained until the mid-1980s.


Newmans Airways, which went on to become Ansett Newmans and then Ansett New Zealand, featured the Pegasus logo of Newmans Coach Lines.



Great Barrier Airlines (precursor to today’s Barrier Air) featured different birds on its fins during the 1990s and 2000s:



Nowadays you have to dig a little deeper to find a bird logo in New Zealand. Air New Zealand has an aerodynamic Koru (a Māori design based upon un unfurling fern frond) which is evocative of a bird or aircraft in flight, alongside a fern, while Jetstar has its eponymous star:



Air Chathams and Barrier Air both have their eponymous islands (Air Chathams as a map complete with the latitude 44°S; Barrier as a profile). Air Chathams does however have an entire aircraft painted as a Toroa/Albatross:



Sounds Air features the Toroa as its logo, while Fly My Sky has a cartoonish bird (I don’t know if it is supposed to be something specific)



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Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:53 pm

cedarjet wrote:
CollegeAviator wrote:
SriLankan Airlines is a peacock.

SriLankan is a chilli

Interesting - you are the first to point out that it is a chili. All this time I thought that the current branding of UL came off of the partnership with Emirates, the logo being in line with Emirates' 3 stripes, but also depicting the mythical 'flying machine' derived from a bird, once the chariot of King Ravana in some way. The flying machine was in Air Lanka's livery too, up until the partnership with Emirates.

If you look closer on the top of the red stripe: there is a beak, while the 'head feather' is present as well...

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Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos