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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:16 pm

As a dual U.S. - Polish citizen, I can honestly say that this hyper-politically correct victim culture we're currently having to endure makes me want to retch.
 
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:23 pm

OK...what about hookers? That is legal there as well!
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:02 pm

The video is pretty lame and unsophisticated, not to mention cringey. They use stereotypes for every place, not just Krakow. Although I don’t think the mention of vodka merits complaint, AA had the choice to produce a video that would make you want to fly them, but they decided to create one that was “funny” instead, leaving their product to your imagination. Perhaps it’s best left that way after all.
 
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:23 pm

Always gotta be made about something.
 
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:56 pm

The only thing I learned is that the marketing expert who provided this commentary obviously does not also do business with the duty free shops in Poland. They certainly have no qualms with local pride when it comes to the selling opportunity - when you're flying out of WAW, after you make your way past Chopin's piano and a Żubrówka buffalo, I don't think your impression is "wow, Poland really does try to distance itself from vodka."
 
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:06 pm

For it to be really representative of Krakow, it should read: "Come to Krakow and see hordes of piss drunk Brits acting like total idiots and puking in the streets"..... That would go great with the ASMIR concept as well...
 
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:34 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
Yawn. Welcome to 2019, where everyone is offended by everything.


Yeah, I totally agree with you. The life is now so complicate for everyone, the box is square, pizza is round and slices are triangle…. What a mess!! :shock: :? :lol:
 
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:19 pm

Manufactured outrage is very popular these days to gets clicks and views. There's nothing offensive or stereotypical about it. What next, outrage over encouraging tourism to Napa to...see grapes grow?
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:41 pm

N867DA wrote:
Manufactured outrage is very popular these days to gets clicks and views. There's nothing offensive or stereotypical about it. What next, outrage over encouraging tourism to Napa to...see grapes grow?


In this case, stereotypical is synonymous with traditional, but by using the word stereotypical it creates one image & traditional another. However as others besides yourself just mentioned, manufactured outrage in sadly popular these days & this seems like that to me as well.
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:44 pm

_AA_777_MAN wrote:
konkret wrote:
PSAatSAN4Ever wrote:
Ironic to me, given that Grey Goose vodka is one of the finest representations of "little water" available today.



What does Grey Goose has to do with Poland?


Nothing


Mea culpa. My fault. I got my countries of origins mixed up.

Belvedere was the name I was thinking of, along with Chopin.

Totally on me. But the sentiment is still the same.
 
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:32 pm

Oh calm down. The amount of Sterotype advertising that goes on happens all around the place.
Here in Australia its sold as ppl who like to throw "a shimp on the bbq" and we don't even call
it a shrimp its a prawn, or images of ppl taking on crocodiles(then they get here and
discover world class restaurants), New Zealand gets marketed
as a countryside full of ppl who go up snow covered mountains dressed as wizards assisted by
dwarfs, Holland as a country where party boys go for stag trips, Germany is where cars and
beer come from not like there's anything else there, the list goes on and on.

If it gets ppl on the plane thats good. Because that's when they'll discover the real country.
It also gets a route started. Get enough ppl take enough interest in it and then they'll really
learn about the place. And hopefully fill enough seats to make the route profitable.
 
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:50 pm

mga707 wrote:
Good Lord, what a stupid thing to get offended about. At least they didn't use Auschwitz, which happens to be my first thought when Krakow is mentioned.


LOL that's what I was thinking. Can you imagine...
 
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:46 pm

Poland can take action to prevent these kinds of negative stereotypes from by simply banning Vodka and friends. Then American Airlines will have to change their ad to say "come to Krakow to drink tap water with a person that doesn't like you".
 
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:48 pm

Redd wrote:
For it to be really representative of Krakow, it should read: "Come to Krakow and see hordes of piss drunk Brits acting like total idiots and puking in the streets"..... That would go great with the ASMIR concept as well...


I think if they used that line they'd get sued by Ryanair for copyright.
 
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:06 am

Oh, puhlease! What ELSE is there to do? Only two nations that Russians look DOWN on in terms of drinking - Finns (alcobuses from Helsinki in St.Peterburg, hello) and Poles. I understand the indignation, but YES, truth can hurt. Especially when you think your city is the "European culinary capital". Nah, Lyon and Parma just don't cut the mustard. Sausage is the king. But then again... Munich, no?
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:08 am

peterinlisbon wrote:
Redd wrote:
For it to be really representative of Krakow, it should read: "Come to Krakow and see hordes of piss drunk Brits acting like total idiots and puking in the streets"..... That would go great with the ASMIR concept as well...


I think if they used that line they'd get sued by Ryanair for copyright.

HAHAHAHAHA! So true! The ALCO airline. :-D
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:08 am

peterinlisbon wrote:
If you were talking about Scotland you could mention whiskey and I don't think anyone would assume this means that whiskey is the only thing that Scotland has to offer or be offended by that.


There's no shortage of snowflakes who would be offended and pretend snowflakes who would pretend to be offended.
 
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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:44 pm

jumbojet wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
Yawn. Welcome to 2019, where everyone is offended by everything.


Sorry but it is actually a pretty crappy piece of advertising. If thats all AA can think of, Vodka, when it comes to advertising its new service to Krakow, than they have a problem.

Google top ten things to do in Krakow. Interesting in that drinking Vodka isnt one of them. Shame on AA. Very sloppy work.


I’m going to make it a point to find the threads on the DL napkin outrage incidents to compare your comments in those threads to this... I already have a good idea what I’ll find...

Perhaps the only thing worse than petty outrage is selective petty outrage.

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Re: AA's advertising causes controversy in Poland

Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:55 pm

ScottB wrote:
terefere wrote:
And the reason has nothing to do with Poles being "offended" by associations with vodka, or the heritage of vodka, but with the amount of tourists who come for cheap booze AND cause trouble. Krakow had close to 14 million tourists last year and like any tourist city, there has been some backlash against certain kind of tourists. That's it. You're all reading too much into it.


Honestly, spending several hundred dollars on round-trip air tickets, not to mention hotel rooms, just to "come for cheap booze" sounds like the very definition of false economy.

emuwarveteran wrote:
Even the government of Kraków has something to say about the ad, whose concept "absolutely doesn't fit in with the touristic and promotional policy of the city".
- We are talking about a city which is a modern center of academics, in the Organization of World Heritage Cities and the European Capital of Gastronomic Culture for 2019 - says Iga Chylicka from the Urząd Miasta, which is responsible for culture and tourism-related affairs. - All of this was forgotten about by the specialists from this airline, who would rather use heavily outdated stereotypes about our country. - she continues."


If this is the city's promotional strategy for tourism, then it is doomed to failure. Tourists will go visit universities -- if they're famous enough. Despite being far older, Jagiellonian University just doesn't have the same cachet as Harvard. I doubt that more than 1% of Americans could even name a single institution of higher education in Krakow. There are nearly 150 members of the Organization of World Heritage Cities in Europe so Krakow really doesn't stand out there. And... "Visit the European Capital of Gastronomic Culture for 2019" really just doesn't sound all that appealing.

While the salt mine is a major tourist attraction, "salt mine" in English does have a negative connotation -- it's associated with tedious work -- so "visit the salt mine" sounds like just another day at a boring job.



I used to say “off to the salt mines” to my roommate all the time as I was walking out the door for work. And I love my job.

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