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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:09 pm

I'm loving the recent expansion of the US3 into more VFR European destinations over the last year.
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:09 pm

The press release is so poorly written: The bit about AMS being twice daily but doesn't say from where.
 
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:13 pm

Ishrion wrote:
- DEN-LHR year-round
- Daily year-round ORD-ZRH
- Second daily EWR-FRA
- SFO-DEL extended to year-round

New Destinations:
Curaçao
EWR-Nice
EWR-Palmero


SFO-DEL from season to year around before the flight even launches that is amazing but it also coincides with something Kirby let slip out a few weeks ago when he stated demand for UA's SFO-DEL flight had already surpassed UA's expectations.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:15 pm

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UA does amazingly well at AMS for not having connection on the other side. 5x daily: IAD, ORD, EWRx2, IAH.


Make that 6. SFO Flt. 968

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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:15 pm

NCE is a long time coming. I'm surprised it took UA as long as it did to add EWR-NCE service. PMO is very interesting. I'd wondered why DL hadn't tried it given the JV with AZ, but good to see someone trying it out. I imagine both will do well as summer seasonal adds.
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:16 pm

Scarebus34 wrote:
The press release is so poorly written: The bit about AMS being twice daily but doesn't say from where.


It also doesn't say where the CUR service is from and there are other typos (the 46th 767 or do you mean a 46-Polaris seat 767?)

This is really embarrassing and looks like it was done by an intern. No one was available last night or early this morning to proofread this?!?
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:17 pm

UALFAson wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
The press release is so poorly written: The bit about AMS being twice daily but doesn't say from where.


It also doesn't say where the CUR service is from and there are other typos (the 46th 767 or do you mean a 46-Polaris seat 767?)

This is really embarrassing and looks like it was done by an intern. No one was available last night or early this morning to proofread this?!?


The CUR service is from Newark on a 737-700. The bit about the 767 is referring to the High J (46-seat) 763.
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:22 pm

The video just posted on Instagram has what the press release left out. (I agree - sloppy)

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1eHjeEgrYS ... _copy_link

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EWR-NCE daily
EWR-PMO daily
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:23 pm

Lotta hype for not much.....
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:25 pm

UA BEFORE AA! Now that rumored AA announcement that JonXNYC is usually right in terms of rumors on...
 
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:25 pm

the press release doesnt say where the second AMS flight is from, it doesnt say where Palermo is from, and where Curacao is from.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:29 pm

jasoncrh wrote:
the press release doesnt say where the second AMS flight is from, it doesnt say where Palermo is from, and where Curacao is from.


All from EWR.
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:33 pm

Palermo wow.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:35 pm

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Good to hear about DEN-LHR, though I wonder where that slot is coming from. Did UA buy a winter slot, or is another hub losing a frequency?


Yeah, I wonder if they're using a slot that they normally use for EWR?
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:38 pm

I assume these two routes are seasonal but it doesn't say it... agreed poorly written piece:

EWR-NCE
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:41 pm

jasoncrh wrote:
the press release doesnt say where the second AMS flight is from, it doesnt say where Palermo is from, and where Curacao is from.


UA only flies to secondary Europe from EWR so I don't know why you would think it would be from any other airport.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:41 pm

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Palermo wow.


Interesting that UA keeps adding destinations in Italy. AA had disappointing results in Bologna this summer and won't be returning there next summer. A tale of two airlines?
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:43 pm

Great!! It would be nice if United had communicated that in their press release. They didnt.

rjmf22 wrote:
jasoncrh wrote:
the press release doesnt say where the second AMS flight is from, it doesnt say where Palermo is from, and where Curacao is from.


All from EWR.
 
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:44 pm

Press releases should convey all pertinent information, otherwise it's anybody's guess. This press release left out key details. Why wouldnt they say where the flights are from? I found it odd.

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jasoncrh wrote:
the press release doesnt say where the second AMS flight is from, it doesnt say where Palermo is from, and where Curacao is from.


UA only flies to secondary Europe from EWR so I don't know why you would think it would be from any other airport.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:46 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
jasoncrh wrote:
the press release doesnt say where the second AMS flight is from, it doesnt say where Palermo is from, and where Curacao is from.


UA only flies to secondary Europe from EWR so I don't know why you would think it would be from any other airport.

Not true.

Dulles sees some seasonal secondary markets. EDI and LIS for example. The used to fly SNN as well.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:47 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
jasoncrh wrote:
the press release doesnt say where the second AMS flight is from, it doesnt say where Palermo is from, and where Curacao is from.


UA only flies to secondary Europe from EWR so I don't know why you would think it would be from any other airport.


I'm not sure how you're defining 'secondary Europe,' and obviously EWR has more destinations from UA, but IAD has several seasonal TATL flights: BCN, EDI, LIS, DUB, MAD, FCO...
 
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:48 pm

It doesn’t look like UA will be returning to PRG next season...
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:50 pm

i'm seriously impressed by UA here. Especially with using those high-J 763 for these new routes. Hoping to see some low J fares coming out next summer out of EWR.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:51 pm

They’ve updated their news release:

United announced it is extending its seasonal services between New York/Newark and Athens, Greece; Naples, Italy; and Porto, Portugal, and between Washington and Barcelona, Spain. United will resume service one month earlier between New York/Newark and Porto, Portugal, on March 28, 2020, and will resume service between New York/Newark and Athens and Naples, and between Washington and Barcelona two weeks earlier, on May 8, 2020.


There’s nothing saying Prague isn’t returning, they just listed season extensions.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:51 pm

Jamake1 wrote:
It doesn’t look like UA will be returning to PRG next season...


Reportedly, all 2019 summer-seasonal flying will return. KEF, ARN, VCE, SNN were also omitted as the release discusses only seasonal extensions.
 
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:54 pm

Prague is definitely coming back - I just went to United.com and you can book EWR-PRG all next summer - if it werent coming back it wouldnt be selling.

codc10 wrote:
Jamake1 wrote:
It doesn’t look like UA will be returning to PRG next season...


Reportedly, all 2019 summer-seasonal flying will return. KEF, ARN, VCE, SNN were also omitted as the release discusses only seasonal extensions.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:55 pm

Jamake1 wrote:
It doesn’t look like UA will be returning to PRG next season...


Why make the assumption where there are a lot of popular season flights from EWR that were left out of the announcement?
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:56 pm

So it looks like Seville was an unsubstantiated rumor from the very beginning?
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:58 pm

do you have a link for this?

Ishrion wrote:
They’ve updated their news release:

United announced it is extending its seasonal services between New York/Newark and Athens, Greece; Naples, Italy; and Porto, Portugal, and between Washington and Barcelona, Spain. United will resume service one month earlier between New York/Newark and Porto, Portugal, on March 28, 2020, and will resume service between New York/Newark and Athens and Naples, and between Washington and Barcelona two weeks earlier, on May 8, 2020.


There’s nothing saying Prague isn’t returning, they just listed season extensions.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:00 pm

jayunited wrote:
Jamake1 wrote:
It doesn’t look like UA will be returning to PRG next season...


Why make the assumption where there are a lot of popular season flights from EWR that were left out of the announcement?


The internal news release was disjointed and confusing.
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:00 pm

jayunited wrote:
Jamake1 wrote:
It doesn’t look like UA will be returning to PRG next season...


Why make the assumption where there are a lot of popular season flights from EWR that were left out of the announcement?


Does Naples get axed for Palermo?
 
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:02 pm

No, they're starting Naples earlier next season

See this full press release for everything: https://united.mediaroom.com/2019-08-22 ... -Francisco

fun2fly wrote:
jayunited wrote:
Jamake1 wrote:
It doesn’t look like UA will be returning to PRG next season...


Why make the assumption where there are a lot of popular season flights from EWR that were left out of the announcement?


Does Naples get axed for Palermo?
 
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:05 pm

jasoncrh wrote:
do you have a link for this?

Ishrion wrote:
They’ve updated their news release:

United announced it is extending its seasonal services between New York/Newark and Athens, Greece; Naples, Italy; and Porto, Portugal, and between Washington and Barcelona, Spain. United will resume service one month earlier between New York/Newark and Porto, Portugal, on March 28, 2020, and will resume service between New York/Newark and Athens and Naples, and between Washington and Barcelona two weeks earlier, on May 8, 2020.


There’s nothing saying Prague isn’t returning, they just listed season extensions.


The news release: https://hub.united.com/united-new-route ... ugust_2019
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:05 pm

Ishrion wrote:
jasoncrh wrote:
do you have a link for this?

Ishrion wrote:
They’ve updated their news release:



There’s nothing saying Prague isn’t returning, they just listed season extensions.


The news release: https://hub.united.com/united-new-route ... ugust_2019


Huh that’s interesting, they have two separate news releases?
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:06 pm

flybry wrote:
intotheair wrote:
Good to hear about DEN-LHR, though I wonder where that slot is coming from. Did UA buy a winter slot, or is another hub losing a frequency?


Yeah, I wonder if they're using a slot that they normally use for EWR?


No they are not reducing EWR-LHR to 4x daily during IATA winter to make DEN-LHR year round.
EWR-LHR 5x daily year round
IAD-LHR 3x daily year round
ORD-LHR 3x daily year round (for 3 weeks in January route reduces to 2x daily)
IAH-LHR 2x daily year round
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LAX-LHR 1x daily year round
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:07 pm

flybry wrote:
intotheair wrote:
Good to hear about DEN-LHR, though I wonder where that slot is coming from. Did UA buy a winter slot, or is another hub losing a frequency?


Yeah, I wonder if they're using a slot that they normally use for EWR?


I can't imagine they'd be okay with cutting EWR-LHR back to 4x in the winter. DEN-LHR has now been loaded into the schedules beyond November, but I don't see any cut anywhere. Winter still shows EWR 5x, ORD 3x, IAD 3x, IAH 2x, SFO 2x, LAX 1x, and DEN 1x.

My guess is either UA has been subleasing that slot in the winter and no longer will be, or they might cut back IAH to 1x in the winter and it just hasn't been loaded in the schedule yet.

Now that there will be three daily longhaul flights out of DEN on UA metal (LHR, FRA, NRT), perhaps they could finally get around to opening up a Polaris lounge somewhere, or at least put some more effort into the current clubs.
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:08 pm

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As predicted, DEN-LHR goes year round.

DL had just made SLC year-round a few weeks ago, so there you go.
 
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enilria wrote:
rjmf22 wrote:
As predicted, DEN-LHR goes year round.

DL had just made SLC year-round a few weeks ago, so there you go.


Also probably helps that DY recently cut DEN-LGW to summer seasonal. Not a huge factor probably, but every little bit helps...
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:12 pm

enilria wrote:
rjmf22 wrote:
As predicted, DEN-LHR goes year round.

DL had just made SLC year-round a few weeks ago, so there you go.


Plus PHX-LHR year-round on AA. UA needs its Mountain West LHR flight to be year-round to keep pace. It's performed well this summer.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:20 pm

I am not overly surprised about PMO. It looks like (at least for European carriers) that Sicily is what comes after Naples when expanding in Italy. PMO and NAP used to have JFK flights in the past partially for VFR traffic.

It seems NAP has been successful for UA (starting earlier in 2020) so they might give PMO a try. Sicily might attract American tourists but it might lack the premium component of Naples (Capri, Amalfi Coast, etc) so it might not work so well.

dcajet wrote:
Noise wrote:
Palermo wow.


Interesting that UA keeps adding destinations in Italy. AA had disappointing results in Bologna this summer and won't be returning there next summer. A tale of two airlines?


I don't see it that way. Naples is the gateway for Southern Italy and Palermo is for Sicily (although Catania is the busiest airport and gateway to Etna). Both are distinctive regions for American tourists + VFR.

I was skeptical about BLQ. Bologna is stuck in the middle of Venice, Milan and Rome. American tourists visiting the area will mostly be doing it mixed with some of those other cities, so they can fly to MXP/FCO/VCE.
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:20 pm

FSDan wrote:
Assuming these are adds for next summer's long haul schedule, I'll throw out a few guesses:
SFO-DUB (789)
SFO-FCO (772)
DEN-CDG (788)
ORD-DUS (763)
ORD-TLV (772)
EWR-SVQ (752)
EWR-PMO (763)


Well, getting 1 one out of 7 correct doesn't seem all that great, but compared to some other folks' guessing records, I'll take it :).

Interesting that ORD-ZRH is a large enough market to warrant a 3rd daily service (I'm assuming LX will still fly a daily 333 and a daily 77W on the route in the summer?) rather than opening up a European market not already served by the JV.
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:23 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
It seems NAP has been successful for UA (starting earlier in 2020) so they might give PMO a try. Sicily might attract American tourists but it might lack the premium component of Naples (Capri, Amalfi Coast, etc) so it might not work so well.


Maybe they'll be able to fill the front of the plane with high-end mob traffic. :duck:
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:27 pm

fun2fly wrote:
We're also providing more travel options to Europe with additional flights to Amsterdam, London, Frankfurt and Zurich and we plan to resume seasonal summer service to popular destinations including Athens, Naples, Porto and Barcelona.

Does this mean PRG is out next year? Glad I'm headed there next week then and didn't miss that opportunity.


All existing seasonal routes from 2019 will return next year.

Wish UA would bring back HAM or STR though...
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:31 pm

enilria wrote:
rjmf22 wrote:
As predicted, DEN-LHR goes year round.

DL had just made SLC year-round a few weeks ago, so there you go.


LOL, nice try. UA has stated since launch of DEN-LHR it's desire to go year-round. Finding an available LHR slot is not something you manage in two weeks to spite a competitor.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:32 pm

tphuang wrote:
i'm seriously impressed by UA here. Especially with using those high-J 763 for these new routes. Hoping to see some low J fares coming out next summer out of EWR.


The mole Delta has planted at UA warned them in advance about these additions. That's why Delta has/had a J sale to Italy for next year. To preempt UA. I bought one for $1260 ai.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:33 pm

FSDan wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
It seems NAP has been successful for UA (starting earlier in 2020) so they might give PMO a try. Sicily might attract American tourists but it might lack the premium component of Naples (Capri, Amalfi Coast, etc) so it might not work so well.


Maybe they'll be able to fill the front of the plane with high-end mob traffic. :duck:


:) Seriously speaking, I am not sure PMO will work as well as NAP. On top of Capri/Amalfi Coast, Naples is also a major cruise port and has stuff like Pompei.

But maybe there is a bigger component of Sicilian VFR in the US that might make that flight work. And this VFR component is what led them to PMO instead of Catania. CTA is a much busier airport than Palermo, is next to Etna (arguably Sicily's main tourist attraction) and has carriers like Turkish, El Al and FlyDubai, so it is the "airport of choice" for more exotic, mid-haul destinations like IST, TLV or DXB.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:43 pm

great that NAP coming back. makes for an easy trip to Amalfi coast for me.

Agreed that PMO is less likely to work. That seems to be a very heavy VFR/leisure market and very price sensitive.

NCE is pretty exciting too, although La Companie already serve that route with very low J fares.
 
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:59 pm

blockski wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
jasoncrh wrote:
the press release doesnt say where the second AMS flight is from, it doesnt say where Palermo is from, and where Curacao is from.


UA only flies to secondary Europe from EWR so I don't know why you would think it would be from any other airport.


I'm not sure how you're defining 'secondary Europe,' and obviously EWR has more destinations from UA, but IAD has several seasonal TATL flights: BCN, EDI, LIS, DUB, MAD, FCO...


Not sure I’d call IAD-DUB seasonal. It doesn’t operate for a couple of weeks in Jan & Feb but that’s it. And EI operate it year round
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Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:00 pm

Ishrion wrote:
They’ve updated their news release:

United announced it is extending its seasonal services between New York/Newark and Athens, Greece; Naples, Italy; and Porto, Portugal, and between Washington and Barcelona, Spain. United will resume service one month earlier between New York/Newark and Porto, Portugal, on March 28, 2020, and will resume service between New York/Newark and Athens and Naples, and between Washington and Barcelona two weeks earlier, on May 8, 2020.


There’s nothing saying Prague isn’t returning, they just listed season extensions.

To be fair they also don't mention KEF or VCE either... doesn't mean they are going away.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:37 pm

LHUSA wrote:
enilria wrote:
rjmf22 wrote:
As predicted, DEN-LHR goes year round.

DL had just made SLC year-round a few weeks ago, so there you go.


LOL, nice try. UA has stated since launch of DEN-LHR it's desire to go year-round. Finding an available LHR slot is not something you manage in two weeks to spite a competitor.

LOL, nice try back at you. There are slots to get. The issue is always how much you are willing to pay, even within an alliance. Delta going year-round may have caused UA to increase their budget for a slot.

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