vandoc wrote:holczakker wrote:Far the worst airport in Germany operationally. Lower category (II) ILS vs. frequent low visibility in the morning (1) and hard night curfew without any exception whatsoever (2). They close the airport even of you are approaching or waiting for take off on the runway (3). Runway is too short for 321s therefore it's 320 only (4). Also the arrivals are regulated whenever a WWII bomb is being dismantled in the city (which happens quite frequently unfortunately)(5). There is a reason every other operators abandoned DTM(6). Obviously Wizz is not interested about operational viaibility only low fees.
1) Low visibility is seldom an poses no problem for the morning flights.
2) There is an exception rule in place. Delayed flights can therefore land.
3) As every other German airport with night curfew. If you are too late, no departures or landings are allowed. Same goes for DUS or even FRA.
4) The runway will be extended (LDA +300m). Dor most typical W6 321-operations, the runway is long enough.
5) Every airport in Germany closes, if a bomb has to be dismantled within the approach path or if the airport lays within a couple hundred meters of the bomb. A dismanteling within the city center has no effects and the airport will not be closed. The airport is not more often closed than other German airports. We are talking of less than one yearly event.
6) Closed bases by:
EW (old one): was bought by LH -> new strategy
AB: focus on DUS
EZY: new strategy and night curfew (since then the curfew was relaxed)
LGW: was bought by AB -> focus on DUS
4U reopened its base more than 10 years ago and will be replaced by EW.
No airline abandoned the airport for solely operational issues. Wzz operates from Dortmund since 2004 without major hicups.
Low visibility is a risk if you arrive in the morning to DTM. Several long holdings and diversions to PAD/CGN/NRN happened even this year for fog. That is why nearly all airports in the area have better (CAT III) ILS (CGN, DUS, NRN, MST, FRA, HHN etc). If that happens in the evening the based aircraft would end up in CGN for the night.
Delayed flights can land with how much delay? 30 mins? Or 60? With a three aircraft base you can encounter a lot longer delays by the end of the day. It happened twice only last year that a Wizz flight on the taxiway (literally a minute from taking off) had to return to ramp and stuck in DTM for the night as ATC closed the airpoirt exactly when the curfew started.
Not all German airports have curfew, eg. CGN, HHN, NUE, LEJ, PAD among others.
The current runway is NOT long enough for any 321 operations that's why there is not a single DTM flight scheduled to operate with a 321. In fact it's nearly too short even for a 320. Otherwise why they want to lenghten it? Even with 300 m extension it will be a shortish one.
I did not say the airport is closing for dismantling of bombs. I said that the arrivals are regulated (if it's from the direction of the city, other way the departure is regulated). It happens a lot more than once a year, I would say 8-10 times a year at least. However the airport and the authorities are trying to handle it with maximum cooperation with Wizz but aviation (understandably) is not priority one when it comes to bomb disposal therefore it's still a risk for the operation. See the point of the curfew. Now only turnaround flights (=aircraft from other bases flying in and out) are delayed (as they need to hold before landing or they can't depart as the area is closed) by from now on the based aircraft will be delayed which might cause trouble at the end of the day with the curfew.