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Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:14 pm

As one of Delta’s largest hubs, SLC definitely deserves a thread. What are some new routes you guys could see? Also, any updates on the terminal renovation?
 
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Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:37 pm

There is another thread with construction updates:
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Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:52 pm

I'm hoping once the new terminal opens and there are more gates available that SLC gets back some of the smaller regional routes that have been dropped like DGO, BFL and SBP.
 
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Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:04 pm

MastaHanky wrote:
I'm hoping once the new terminal opens and there are more gates available that SLC gets back some of the smaller regional routes that have been dropped like DGO, BFL and SBP.


Me too.
 
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Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:53 pm

My wish list:
SLC-YEG
SLC-YUL
SLC-YLW
SLC-KOA
SLC-FAR
SLC-DRO
SLC-BDL
SLC-ALB

Saw DL is about to go 4x daily mainline SLC-JAC for the first time in a long time.
 
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Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:02 pm

DLASFlyer wrote:
My wish list:
SLC-FAR
SLC-DRO
SLC-BDL


I agree that DL adding SLC-FAR/DRO/BDL are possibilities once more gates are available at SLC.

Other nonstop routes that could be added by DL out of SLC include SLC-BHM, SLC-BIS, SLC-CID, SLC-XNA, SLC-GRR, SLC-SDF, SLC-MEM, SLC-MLI, SLC-ORF, SLC-FSD, and SLC-ICT.
 
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Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:13 am

I would love to see Hawaiian enter SLC. To any island-I don't care which. DL would of course fight back against any HA moves, but I can dream.
 
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Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:50 am

DLASFlyer wrote:
My wish list:
SLC-YEG
SLC-YUL
SLC-YLW
SLC-KOA
SLC-FAR
SLC-DRO
SLC-BDL
SLC-ALB

Saw DL is about to go 4x daily mainline SLC-JAC for the first time in a long time.


It would be nice to see SLC-BDL again, DL is growing recently in BDL.
 
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Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:02 am

DLASFlyer wrote:
My wish list:
SLC-YEG
SLC-YUL
SLC-YLW
SLC-KOA
SLC-FAR
SLC-DRO
SLC-BDL
SLC-ALB

Saw DL is about to go 4x daily mainline SLC-JAC for the first time in a long time.


It was surprising to me to see that SLC-YEG wasn't a thing. It looks like it had service about a decade ago with SkyWest running CRJs.

SLC-YUL would absolutely blow my mind.
 
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Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:15 am

I think it’d be cool for Virgin Atlantic to come in kinda like how KLM compliments the DL AMS flight
 
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Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:59 am

ironyClad wrote:
DLASFlyer wrote:
My wish list:
SLC-YEG
SLC-YUL
SLC-YLW
SLC-KOA
SLC-FAR
SLC-DRO
SLC-BDL
SLC-ALB

Saw DL is about to go 4x daily mainline SLC-JAC for the first time in a long time.


It was surprising to me to see that SLC-YEG wasn't a thing. It looks like it had service about a decade ago with SkyWest running CRJs.

SLC-YUL would absolutely blow my mind.


Fantasy. MSP-YUL isn't even daily year-round.
 
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Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:15 am

DLASFlyer wrote:
My wish list:
SLC-YEG
SLC-YUL
SLC-YLW
SLC-KOA
SLC-FAR
SLC-DRO
SLC-BDL
SLC-ALB

Saw DL is about to go 4x daily mainline SLC-JAC for the first time in a long time.


It's been tried before, but I think the timing is right for SLC-BIS to be tried again.
 
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Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:24 pm

As an avid planespotter who is based out of KSLC, I would love it if DL added routes to airports in the Caribbean, like MYNN, MWCR, and potentially even TJSJ. Heck, we could even do what DL does out of KMSP, operating those routes 1x weekly on Saturdays. They could absolutely operate more flights to airports in Florida, too, like KRSW and KJAX. I'm quite surprised Air France hasn't started serving SLC yet, with DL operating daily 767 flights to LFPG in the B763, but with only a few gates that even fit heavies this makes sense. I'd also appreciate if KLM operated daily, year round flights to EHAM, as we only have 3x weekly flights in the summer with KL. (DL is year round, 5x+ weekly.)
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Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:36 pm

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As an avid planespotter who is based out of KSLC, I would love it if DL added routes to airports in the Caribbean, like MYNN, MWCR, and potentially even TJSJ. Heck, we could even do what DL does out of KMSP, operating those routes 1x weekly on Saturdays. They could absolutely operate more flights to airports in Florida, too, like KRSW and KJAX. I'm quite surprised Air France hasn't started serving SLC yet, with DL operating daily 767 flights to LFPG in the B763, but with only a few gates that even fit heavies this makes sense. I'd also appreciate if KLM operated daily, year round flights to EHAM, as we only have 3x weekly flights in the summer with KL. (DL is year round, 5x+ weekly.)

Did you or others get any pics/video of that DL MD-88 at SLC last November or so? That particular Mad Dog was operating a charter, although I don't recall if it was a sports or military flight. Besides SLC, it also went into DFW, RIV (March AFB in California), PDX and SEA if not elsewhere.

Even during the MD-88's peak years with DL, they were only occasionally used at DL's SLC hub as many aviation geeks in the area know. Now in its twilight, the 88s for sometime have been restricted by DL to mostly short/medium hops out of ATL. Thus having a DL MD-88 last autumn in SLC and other points out west was an extra nice treat.
 
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:49 am

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KWB739 wrote:
As an avid planespotter who is based out of KSLC, I would love it if DL added routes to airports in the Caribbean, like MYNN, MWCR, and potentially even TJSJ. Heck, we could even do what DL does out of KMSP, operating those routes 1x weekly on Saturdays. They could absolutely operate more flights to airports in Florida, too, like KRSW and KJAX. I'm quite surprised Air France hasn't started serving SLC yet, with DL operating daily 767 flights to LFPG in the B763, but with only a few gates that even fit heavies this makes sense. I'd also appreciate if KLM operated daily, year round flights to EHAM, as we only have 3x weekly flights in the summer with KL. (DL is year round, 5x+ weekly.)

Did you or others get any pics/video of that DL MD-88 at SLC last November or so? That particular Mad Dog was operating a charter, although I don't recall if it was a sports or military flight. Besides SLC, it also went into DFW, RIV (March AFB in California), PDX and SEA if not elsewhere.

Even during the MD-88's peak years with DL, they were only occasionally used at DL's SLC hub as many aviation geeks in the area know. Now in its twilight, the 88s for sometime have been restricted by DL to mostly short/medium hops out of ATL. Thus having a DL MD-88 last autumn in SLC and other points out west was an extra nice treat.

One of the few pics I've seen of a DL MD-88 at SLC, from Sept 2006 in "Wavy Gravy" scheme:
https://www.planespotters.net/photo/037 ... glas-md-88
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:42 pm

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Did you or others get any pics/video of that DL MD-88 at SLC last November or so? That particular Mad Dog was operating a charter, although I don't recall if it was a sports or military flight. Besides SLC, it also went into DFW, RIV (March AFB in California), PDX and SEA if not elsewhere.

Even during the MD-88's peak years with DL, they were only occasionally used at DL's SLC hub as many aviation geeks in the area know. Now in its twilight, the 88s for sometime have been restricted by DL to mostly short/medium hops out of ATL. Thus having a DL MD-88 last autumn in SLC and other points out west was an extra nice treat.


Sadly, I was not up at KSLC when the two MD88s flew in this last November, but I can see if any of my friends caught it. It was cool having an old MD88 up here, as typically DL operated the MD90 as KSLC is too hot and high for MD88s. In November, we're fine, though. It flew to KDFW from KSLC.
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:51 am

KWB739 wrote:
tnair1974 wrote:
Did you or others get any pics/video of that DL MD-88 at SLC last November or so? That particular Mad Dog was operating a charter, although I don't recall if it was a sports or military flight. Besides SLC, it also went into DFW, RIV (March AFB in California), PDX and SEA if not elsewhere.

Even during the MD-88's peak years with DL, they were only occasionally used at DL's SLC hub as many aviation geeks in the area know. Now in its twilight, the 88s for sometime have been restricted by DL to mostly short/medium hops out of ATL. Thus having a DL MD-88 last autumn in SLC and other points out west was an extra nice treat.


Sadly, I was not up at KSLC when the two MD88s flew in this last November, but I can see if any of my friends caught it. It was cool having an old MD88 up here, as typically DL operated the MD90 as KSLC is too hot and high for MD88s. In November, we're fine, though. It flew to KDFW from KSLC.

Cool, didn't realized there were two MD-88 visits!

As many here likely know, the MD-80 has less than spritely single engine climb stats. From what I've read, the issues at SLC were not so much about runway length or high elevation. But SLC does have high terrain in virtually all directions even if not quite at SLC's doorstep. In comparison, DEN has mountains only on one side. Thus, the MD-80's more limited single engine performance could in some situations require significant payload hits to clear SLC's terrain on one engine, especially on longer flights. It may also be that DL had enough other equipment at SLC that there was little need to bring in MD-88s.

But at least during the 2000s (I don't know about the 1990s), DL MD-88s were occasionally used at SLC. As you touched on, this was mainly during the cooler months (lower temperatures allow for better density altitude thus better takeoff/climb performance). IIRC, DL MD-88s were used SLC-MSP/DFWBOI/SJC (possibly DEN/LAX/SFO). There was at least one case of an MD-88 covering CVG-SLC-CVG (subbing for an MD-90, a winter flight). AA often used their MD-80s SLC-ORD/DFW and apparently did so year round, although I wonder if there were occasional restrictions during the summer. FL's (the first Frontier) small MD-80 fleet made a few visits to SLC; the short DEN-SLC hops perhaps meant little if any payload restrictions even during the summer(?). Any additions/corrections?
 
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:50 pm

Does anyone know if Compass still does Delta Connection flying for DL in SLC?
 
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:06 pm

It's been really neat for spotters to see the DL 330s compete for gate space with the 767s!
 
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:39 pm

Once Icelandair gets their act together 737 MAX wise, I could see them trying KEF-SLC on a less than daily summer only basis. I could also see Condor flying FRA-SLC less than daily, and possibly DL/KE SLC-ICN once the coronavirus is gone. Other than that, I don't imagine too much new international service at SLC unless AF/VS substitute their equipment for some of DL's flights to Europe. Perhaps some of the Mexican low cost carriers a couple times per week.

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Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:11 am

In the late 90’s - early 2000’s Delta had a MD-88/90 pilot base here. 95% of those ops were the MD-90.
 
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Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:31 am

HNLSLCPDX wrote:
Does anyone know if Compass still does Delta Connection flying for DL in SLC?


Flightstats doesn't find any today, although it does show some CP for AA.
 
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Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:56 pm

Yesterday, we had a Delta 772 doing LAX-SLC substituting the usual 752. How often are Delta 772 seen in SLC? If I'm not mistaken DL only has regular widebody flights with A332 and 763, right?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 4#24038839
 
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Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:15 am

TWA ran MD80s SLC-STL on and off for years.
 
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Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:22 am

Biscayne738 wrote:
TWA ran MD80s SLC-STL on and off for years.

In addition, TW MD-80s (and at times TW L-1011s) operated SLC-DEN-JFK.

Also add CO MD-80s SLC-IAH. It appears that CO used the likes of 735s and later 737NGs on SLC-EWR.

Further add NW using (ex-Republic) MD-80s out of SLC. Apparently to MSP?

Guessing an MD-80 flying nonstop SLC-EWR/JFK might be pushing the Mad Dog's range limits and/or could need too much of a payload penalty on a very hot day in the Salt Lake Valley. Of course, real experts feel free to chime in.
 
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Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:37 am

rabader wrote:
Yesterday, we had a Delta 772 doing LAX-SLC substituting the usual 752. How often are Delta 772 seen in SLC? If I'm not mistaken DL only has regular widebody flights with A332 and 763, right?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 4#24038839

Seems I recall DL brought in 772s for the 2002 Winter Olympics. I'm less knowledgeable about DL 777s in more recent times. For that matter any KLM 777s, as KLM mainly uses A330s at SLC if I recall correctly.
 
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Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:55 am

KL has mainly used the 789 to SLC.

The DL 777 this week was a very rare visitor indeed. I can't even guess the last time that happened.

I noticed that SLC-OGG is running with A333 right now--how long has that been going? OGG is winter only, right?
 
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Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:49 am

rabader wrote:
Yesterday, we had a Delta 772 doing LAX-SLC substituting the usual 752. How often are Delta 772 seen in SLC? If I'm not mistaken DL only has regular widebody flights with A332 and 763, right?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 4#24038839


It was awesome when that happened! DL B772s are increasingly rare at SLC, and only on occasion will KLM sub in a B772 to replace the B789. It must’ve been subbing in for a 738 or 752 that had broken down.
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Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:05 am

KWB739 wrote:
rabader wrote:
Yesterday, we had a Delta 772 doing LAX-SLC substituting the usual 752. How often are Delta 772 seen in SLC? If I'm not mistaken DL only has regular widebody flights with A332 and 763, right?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 4#24038839


It was awesome when that happened! DL B772s are increasingly rare at SLC, and only on occasion will KLM sub in a B772 to replace the B789. It must’ve been subbing in for a 738 or 752 that had broken down.



I worked that flight LAX-SLC-LAX. You are right, mechanical for the 752 resulting in a 6h delay.
 
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:09 am

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In the late 90’s - early 2000’s Delta had a MD-88/90 pilot base here. 95% of those ops were the MD-90.

Think I read somewhere that DL MD-90 pilots can fly the MD-88 but not so much the other way around (any DL pilots feel free to confirm/correct).

Curious if the old Western Airlines (already a heavily Boeing customer with a big exception of the DC-10) had any interest in MD-80s. Only for WA to look elsewhere when it became apparent that the single engine performance issues MD-80s would have at SLC would affect longer flights. IIRC, for a twin the 737-400 didn't have the greatest climb performance, neither. Just maybe also why Western did not buy the 734 to supplement their 733s and 732s??
 
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:16 am

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KL has mainly used the 789 to SLC.

Thanks for the correction. Seems I remember the inaugural KLM AMS-SLC flight was an A330. If KLM had only a few 789s at the time, makes sense to use them first on even longer routes until enough 789s were delivered to use to SLC.
 
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:20 am

tnair1974 wrote:
ss278 wrote:
In the late 90’s - early 2000’s Delta had a MD-88/90 pilot base here. 95% of those ops were the MD-90.

Think I read somewhere that DL MD-90 pilots can fly the MD-88 but not so much the other way around (any DL pilots feel free to confirm/correct).

Curious if the old Western Airlines (already a heavily Boeing customer with a big exception of the DC-10) had any interest in MD-80s. Only for WA to look elsewhere when it became apparent that the single engine performance issues MD-80s would have at SLC would affect longer flights. IIRC, for a twin the 737-400 didn't have the greatest climb performance, neither. Just maybe also why Western did not buy the 734 to supplement their 733s and 732s??


Delta use to have either MD90 pilots or MD80 pilots. Sometime after the merger all the MD88/90 pilots were trained on both aircraft and could fly either. I want to say CVG was the first M89 base with MSP/ATL following. I can't remember if SLC was ever M89 or M90 as the MDs left fairly quickly for MSP post merger for 320s. 717 pilots are a separate category.
The 757/763 domestic and international use to be separated as well. So some bases would be 767 bases (domestic 757/763 flying) and some bases were 7ER bases (international 757/763 flying)
That was also changed post merger and all 757/763 bases are 7ER bases. The 764 is still a separate category(called 765 oddly enough) and if I remember right the only 765 bases at ATL and NYC.
 
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:30 pm

tnair1974 wrote:
redzeppelin wrote:
KL has mainly used the 789 to SLC.

Thanks for the correction. Seems I remember the inaugural KLM AMS-SLC flight was an A330. If KLM had only a few 789s at the time, makes sense to use them first on even longer routes until enough 789s were delivered to use to SLC.


KLM currently uses the B789 on scheduled service from AMS-SLC, but they initially used the A330-300, then swapped the equipment later. On occasion, a B772 will sub in for the usual B789.
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:33 pm

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KL has mainly used the 789 to SLC.

The DL 777 this week was a very rare visitor indeed. I can't even guess the last time that happened.

I noticed that SLC-OGG is running with A333 right now--how long has that been going? OGG is winter only, right?


Yes, it is a seasonal flight initially operated by the 767-300ER in the fall for about two weeks, then converts over to the A333, going back to the 767 in March, briefly. The route ceases to operate from April to November. HNL, however, is operated by an A333 during the busy winter season, but subsequently uses B752s in the summer.
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:40 pm

TWA902fly wrote:
Once Icelandair gets their act together 737 MAX wise, I could see them trying KEF-SLC on a less than daily summer only basis. I could also see Condor flying FRA-SLC less than daily, and possibly DL/KE SLC-ICN once the coronavirus is gone. Other than that, I don't imagine too much new international service at SLC unless AF/VS substitute their equipment for some of DL's flights to Europe. Perhaps some of the Mexican low cost carriers a couple times per week.

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I agree with all of this. Even if the 737 MAX has weight restrictions out of KSLC in the summer, the 757-200 might make sense on a 3x weekly or so service. I hope VS would be willing to also operate 787-9s from Heathrow to SLC, given that EGLL is one of the largest destinations from SLC in the summertime. DL even operates an A332 5x weekly during the winter season. I could also see the 787-9 of AF operating a nonstop between CDG and SLC, also given that Paris is a large destination from here. I wish we had year round KLM from SLC, too. Maybe 7x weekly when the new airport opens could work.
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:52 pm

KWB739 wrote:
redzeppelin wrote:
KL has mainly used the 789 to SLC.

The DL 777 this week was a very rare visitor indeed. I can't even guess the last time that happened.

I noticed that SLC-OGG is running with A333 right now--how long has that been going? OGG is winter only, right?


Yes, it is a seasonal flight initially operated by the 767-300ER in the fall for about two weeks, then converts over to the A333, going back to the 767 in March, briefly. The route ceases to operate from April to November. HNL, however, is operated by an A333 during the busy winter season, but subsequently uses B752s in the summer.


HNL used to always be the 767-300 Domestic year round, then was upguaged to the A330-300 for winter months, back to the domestic 763 for the summer. Strange to see a 752 operating the summer months now.
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HNL used to always be the 767-300 Domestic year round, then was upgauged to the A330-300 for winter months, back to the domestic 763 for the summer. Strange to see a 752 operating the summer months now.


This is correct, but in recent years it has been B752s from April to November. The B763 only briefly operates as a transition aircraft. Frankly, even with the 757's excellent hot and high performance, I think the 767 would be the better aircraft for that route. There must not be enough demand during the summer, or DL wants the larger gates for aircraft on more important routes.
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KWB739 wrote:
fanoftristars wrote:
HNL used to always be the 767-300 Domestic year round, then was upgauged to the A330-300 for winter months, back to the domestic 763 for the summer. Strange to see a 752 operating the summer months now.


This is correct, but in recent years it has been B752s from April to November. The B763 only briefly operates as a transition aircraft. Frankly, even with the 757's excellent hot and high performance, I think the 767 would be the better aircraft for that route. There must not be enough demand during the summer, or DL wants the larger gates for aircraft on more important routes.


I think if Delta still had domestic configured 767-300s it would probably still be a 767 in the summertime. But they are long gone now!
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Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:14 pm

Anybody think that DL could get by launching a 1x weekly flight to Nassau, BS or San Juan, PR, sort of like what they do out of MSP, operating 1x weekly (Saturday) flights to airports in the Caribbean? The A220 has an adequate range for these routes, and 737-800s and -900ERs could also make it.
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Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:23 pm

KWB739 wrote:
Anybody think that DL could get by launching a 1x weekly flight to Nassau, BS or San Juan, PR, sort of like what they do out of MSP, operating 1x weekly (Saturday) flights to airports in the Caribbean? The A220 has an adequate range for these routes, and 737-800s and -900ERs could also make it.

I don’t think Caribbean would work at all from SLC on DL. I think SJO or LIR make more sense but I think even those are a stretch, especially when you can just reach those from LAX out west on DL.
 
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Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:57 am

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Biscayne738 wrote:
TWA ran MD80s SLC-STL on and off for years.

In addition, TW MD-80s (and at times TW L-1011s) operated SLC-DEN-JFK.

Also add CO MD-80s SLC-IAH. It appears that CO used the likes of 735s and later 737NGs on SLC-EWR.

Further add NW using (ex-Republic) MD-80s out of SLC. Apparently to MSP?

Guessing an MD-80 flying nonstop SLC-EWR/JFK might be pushing the Mad Dog's range limits and/or could need too much of a payload penalty on a very hot day in the Salt Lake Valley. Of course, real experts feel free to chime in.

A poster elsewhere mentioned CO sent MD80s from SLC to the old hub at DEN Stapleton (it was mentioned earlier that FL MD-80s occasionally did SLC-DEN); turns out there were at least occasional CO MD80s SLC-IAH.

Also add PSA MD80s SLC-LAX and AM (Aero Mexico) MD-80s out of SLC.

It may be far easier to ask if there any North American MD-80 operators that did not fly into SLC. Perhaps Air California MD-80s? Don't know about Alaska Airlines. Jet America MD-80s?
 
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Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:03 pm

Charter Airline Allegro operated MD-80s for a short time around 1999, guessing it was a Mexico charter program? Aeromexico operated MD-87's to SLC, I don't remember ever seeing an AMX MD-80 here. I've been around and worked at SLC Airport since the early 90s.
 
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Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:06 am

Biscayne738 wrote:
Charter Airline Allegro operated MD-80s for a short time around 1999, guessing it was a Mexico charter program? Aeromexico operated MD-87's to SLC, I don't remember ever seeing an AMX MD-80 here. I've been around and worked at SLC Airport since the early 90s.

Add AeroCancun MD-80s at SLC. This may have already been mentioned, but add SJC to the list of occasional DL MD-88 routes out of SLC.

The only AMX MD-80 series type I've seen in SLC pics is the short fuselage MD-87s. I was aware AMX was one of a small handful of operators besides DL and IB that bought MD-88s. But it turns out AMX also had MD-82s and MD-83s although I suspect the 82s/83s were used but don't know for sure. Maybe a slight chance a longer fuselage AMX MD-80 visited SLC from time to time?

Wiki shows Alaska is a relatively recent operator at SLC; their MD-80s had exited the fleet by the time Alaska started SLC service.

An interesting side note is that Allegiant operated all versions of the MD-80 series (MD-81, MD-82, MD-83, MD-87 and MD-88) although I don't think G4 has ever had regular service into SLC. BTW, it's nice to have your decades of "ground truth" at SLC to verify/correct!
 
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Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:22 pm

Tnair1974 - Your absolutely correct about Allegiant. While they never did scheduled service out SLC. Outside of any charters they operated Allegiant ops were normally a fuel stop for casino charters coming out of Wendover, Nevada.

Great American Airways operated various MD aircraft to Wendover on gambling charters in the late 80s and early 90s.
 
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Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:29 am

rabader wrote:
Yesterday, we had a Delta 772 doing LAX-SLC substituting the usual 752. How often are Delta 772 seen in SLC? If I'm not mistaken DL only has regular widebody flights with A332 and 763, right?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 4#24038839


Very unusual. If they do it’s usually 772ER or non ER. I was informed the last time they needed 777 capacity was olympics in 2002. So it’s a last resort of peak season. The 18:00 bank was the first 777 we’ve had in years, from ATL in I want to say 2013 July, or 2014. Everyone took a field trip to see it. Coordination center doesn’t love it, wingtips block adjacent gates

So it makes me happy seeing enough wide bodies daily that require tow offs and 3 are typically parked out of the way on the field.

Funny thought. The first ATL in 2013/2014 was N863DA, ship 7004 which was the same bird from LAX in question.
 
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Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:51 pm

Is this the first time we receive the Delta A359 at SLC?
https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL8874/24409abe
 
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Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:58 pm

Ben Bearup from Airways Magazine reports several arrivals from Tokyo repatriating LDS missionaries. What a line up of Delta widebodies A333, A339, A359, 772 and 77L.

https://twitter.com/TheAviationBeat/status/1241859079955505152

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Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:06 am

Another unusual flight for SLC this evening, 3/24/20.. Probably bringing Mormon missionaries home. Ethiopian ETH 8705, B788 flew in from JNB with two enroute fuel stops. JNB-LFW flying time 5:29. LFW-IAD time 11:11, IAD-SLC time 4:23. Arrived SLC at 9:34pm local. With over 4 hours ground time at LFW and over 2 hours ground time at IAD. Talk about a long day on the same plane! Think this is probably the first time an Ethiopian flight has ever been to SLC.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ETH8705
 
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Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:42 am

tnair1974 wrote:
tnair1974 wrote:
KWB739 wrote:
As an avid planespotter who is based out of KSLC, I would love it if DL added routes to airports in the Caribbean, like MYNN, MWCR, and potentially even TJSJ. Heck, we could even do what DL does out of KMSP, operating those routes 1x weekly on Saturdays. They could absolutely operate more flights to airports in Florida, too, like KRSW and KJAX. I'm quite surprised Air France hasn't started serving SLC yet, with DL operating daily 767 flights to LFPG in the B763, but with only a few gates that even fit heavies this makes sense. I'd also appreciate if KLM operated daily, year round flights to EHAM, as we only have 3x weekly flights in the summer with KL. (DL is year round, 5x+ weekly.)

Did you or others get any pics/video of that DL MD-88 at SLC last November or so? That particular Mad Dog was operating a charter, although I don't recall if it was a sports or military flight. Besides SLC, it also went into DFW, RIV (March AFB in California), PDX and SEA if not elsewhere.

Even during the MD-88's peak years with DL, they were only occasionally used at DL's SLC hub as many aviation geeks in the area know. Now in its twilight, the 88s for sometime have been restricted by DL to mostly short/medium hops out of ATL. Thus having a DL MD-88 last autumn in SLC and other points out west was an extra nice treat.

One of the few pics I've seen of a DL MD-88 at SLC, from Sept 2006 in "Wavy Gravy" scheme:
https://www.planespotters.net/photo/037 ... glas-md-88
N999DN remains in service as of this posting.

Well, the DL MD-88 drawdown continues. N999DN is now retired. :cry2: It was ferried April 4 2020 ATL-BYH.

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