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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2019

Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:11 am

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I saw photo another TK 77F is getting ready at Boeing. What number is this?



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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2019

Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:30 am

Are the A350s getting the same J seats as on the 787s?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2019

Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:11 am

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Nice to see TK offer additional frequencies on its U.S. service. This should help build network connectivity options even further.
No reason why TK cant eventually offer multiple daily flights to many longhaul destinations like other European airlines.


I saw photo another TK 77F is getting ready at Boeing. What number is this?

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Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:26 am

Turkey could lose up to 700,000 tourists annually after Thomas Cook collapse: hotel federation

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The head of Turkey’s Hoteliers Federation said on Monday the collapse of British tourism agency Thomas Cook (TCG.L) means Turkey could see 600,000-700,000 fewer tourists annually.

In an interview, Osman Ayik told Reuters there are currently 45,000 tourists in Turkey that came from the United Kingdom and the rest of Europe via Thomas Cook.

The Federation’s chairman added the company owes 100,000-200,000 pounds to some small hotels, which could suffer as a result of the collapse.

www.reuters.com/article/us-thomas-cook- ... me=topNews
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:47 am

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Turkey could lose up to 700,000 tourists annually after Thomas Cook collapse: hotel federation

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The head of Turkey’s Hoteliers Federation said on Monday the collapse of British tourism agency Thomas Cook (TCG.L) means Turkey could see 600,000-700,000 fewer tourists annually.

In an interview, Osman Ayik told Reuters there are currently 45,000 tourists in Turkey that came from the United Kingdom and the rest of Europe via Thomas Cook.

The Federation’s chairman added the company owes 100,000-200,000 pounds to some small hotels, which could suffer as a result of the collapse.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-thoma ... me=topNews


That makes no sense, the void left by Thomas Cook will be filled by others. After all, the summer season just ended, there is still time to prepare everything for next year
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:58 am

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OA260 wrote:
Turkey could lose up to 700,000 tourists annually after Thomas Cook collapse: hotel federation

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The head of Turkey’s Hoteliers Federation said on Monday the collapse of British tourism agency Thomas Cook (TCG.L) means Turkey could see 600,000-700,000 fewer tourists annually.

In an interview, Osman Ayik told Reuters there are currently 45,000 tourists in Turkey that came from the United Kingdom and the rest of Europe via Thomas Cook.

The Federation’s chairman added the company owes 100,000-200,000 pounds to some small hotels, which could suffer as a result of the collapse.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-thoma ... me=topNews


That makes no sense, the void left by Thomas Cook will be filled by others. After all, the summer season just ended, there is still time to prepare everything for next year


Who do you think will fill the void then?
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:06 am

OA260 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
OA260 wrote:
Turkey could lose up to 700,000 tourists annually after Thomas Cook collapse: hotel federation

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The head of Turkey’s Hoteliers Federation said on Monday the collapse of British tourism agency Thomas Cook (TCG.L) means Turkey could see 600,000-700,000 fewer tourists annually.

In an interview, Osman Ayik told Reuters there are currently 45,000 tourists in Turkey that came from the United Kingdom and the rest of Europe via Thomas Cook.

The Federation’s chairman added the company owes 100,000-200,000 pounds to some small hotels, which could suffer as a result of the collapse.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-thoma ... me=topNews


That makes no sense, the void left by Thomas Cook will be filled by others. After all, the summer season just ended, there is still time to prepare everything for next year


Who do you think will fill the void then?


Other tourist agencies? It's a massive market with lots of demand and I am sure people on the Turkish end will quickly move to find new partners in the UK.

What interests me the most is who will take over the flights.
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:31 am

I don't think there will be a lot of gaps left uncovered...Turkish holiday airlines with european subsidiaries like Sun Express,Corendon as well as LCC Pegasus, Onur Air, Atlas Global and TK will move fast to meet demand if given the green light..Not to mention that TUI,Jet2, Easyjet,Ryanair Tuifly,Transavia,DAT,Jettime,Novair etc won't just stand-by idle
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:02 pm

many rescue flights already planned for today and tomorrow from ADB, AYT, BJV and DLM
https://thomascook.caa.co.uk/customers/ ... on/turkey/

as far as I can see, the biggest impact will be in the DLM region, followed by AYT. in fact, places like Kas, Kalkan, Marmaris during summer seem like little English towns.
the above list is only showing the repatriation flights organized by British government and CAA; however, TC Scandinavia is quite big in AYT and of course Condor all around the Aegean costline and Med.Sea.

Challenging times for everyone involved and directly affected...
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:33 pm

I do not see any issue for next summer. The market will adjust itself. The problem is what will happen to pending payments to our hotels for this season?
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2019

Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:49 pm

First commercial A380 flight to Turkey will land tonight. A380 HiFly 9H-MIP will be used to repatriate stranded folks from DLM, yes, Dalaman.
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:27 pm

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First commercial A380 flight to Turkey will land tonight. A380 HiFly 9H-MIP will be used to repatriate stranded folks from DLM, yes, Dalaman.

it's a pity to see the 1st commercial 380 flight to Turkey under these circumstances
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:08 pm

While Thomas Cook was certainly large company and will have an impact on the industry, I don't see its loss as having long term implications. Unless people stop taking vacations, the business will be assumed by other companies.

Maybe a bigger point is that the broader tour package sector is shrinking as customers increasingly assemble their own vacations especially with the prevalence of LCCs across Europe and ever increased online purchasing by consumers. One no longer needs to visit the storefront travel operator to book your next family vacation.

Future of Turkish tourism is more affected by things like currency value, perceived safety, political news, etc than the loss of a holiday company.
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2019

Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:36 pm

Bit off the current TC discussion, but must say the new Istanbul Airport and the TK J lounge are great.

Arrived late last night and found that, whilst a long walk (travellators helped) from the gate to Passport Control, the airport was a doddle to navigate; everything is well signposted, so there's no chance of getting lost.

Nice touch was the person posted at the end of the airbridge to point transferring passengers in the right direction.

Got a proper chance to look around in Departures earlier. The airport itself is actually quite beautiful; having an interior that reminds you of an Ottoman mosque and which makes it see far more airy than it probably is, in reality.

Again, it's a doddle to find your way around, and there were none of the holdups at Passport Control or Security that plagued Ataturk at times; the TK Business Class check-in area is very posh.

Lots of duty free shops airside now, but I'll not be investigating them until I'm on the return flight.

Genuinely didn't think the old J Lounge could be improved on, but the new one seems to have managed it; pick your seat well and there are good views over the apron to be had.

I'm currently trying to prevent myself completely pigging out on all the food offerings before my onward flight tonight.

Not certain if it'll replace MUC as my favourite airport but it's certainly in the running; just need to experience a transfer without overnight stay in Istanbul, but a huge thumbs up, so far.
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:03 pm

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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2019

Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:33 pm

Never imagined we would see an A380 at the once very sleepy Dalaman. I remember when the airport opened and getting the occasional TK A310 during bayram was a big deal. Of course, things have changed greatly over the years as the region has become an international tourism market.

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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:11 am

LAXintl wrote:
Never imagined we would see an A380 at the once very sleepy Dalaman. I remember when the airport opened and getting the occasional TK A310 during bayram was a big deal. Of course, things have changed greatly over the years as the region has become an international tourism market.

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It certainly was an interesting experience for DLM staff thats for sure .
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:25 am

LAXintl wrote:
Never imagined we would see an A380 at the once very sleepy Dalaman. I remember when the airport opened and getting the occasional TK A310 during bayram was a big deal. Of course, things have changed greatly over the years as the region has become an international tourism market.

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Very cool thanks for sharing. Unfortunately for TK aviation fans, the fate of A380 and the opening of new IST couldn’t coincide as I think we would have seen regular 380 service at IST( we still can I think from EK)
380 is my favorite ac to fly on.

As for the TC drama Turkey is lucky as this didn’t unfold during peak summer season, and I believe it wont cause a huge trouble in the industry as someone or so others will fill their void rather quick. For Turkish tourism the key is safe and uneventful climate in Turkey and the fx remains this way nothing can stop it. If Turkey remains stable people will come as the value is unparalleled especially with the fx the way it is.
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:35 am

Nice view boarding in DLM


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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2019

Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:47 am

DLM is my 3rd home airport after JFK and IST. I would have loved to see this.
It is incredible like LAXintl said, in my short adult life time I have seen 3 new airport buildings in the same spot:
-There were two tiny buildings in the past, one for departures and one for arrivals
-Then, they built a new terminal only for INT travel, old... concrete... 70's looking ugly thing with pink seats.
-Finally they built the a brand new modern INT terminal closer to the beach side and the concrete building became the domestic Terminal.
-Few years back, they demolished the concrete one and built an even larger terminal which houses both the INT and the DOM travel nowadays. Previous modern terminal sits empty, I don't know why. Maybe when pax numbers at DLM increases dramatically, it will be open once again and two new terminals might work tandem.
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:52 pm

Found interesting article about TK LAX service and the planned increase in service in 2020.
TK has carried 1.7mil passengers on the route with the majority being transit customers. Top destinations are Iran, Israel, Lebanon, India, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. In 2018 route had 89.7% load factor. Quite clear they need the additional seats.

https://www.dailysabah.com/business/201 ... passengers
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:32 pm

mercure1 wrote:
Found interesting article about TK LAX service and the planned increase in service in 2020.
TK has carried 1.7mil passengers on the route with the majority being transit customers. Top destinations are Iran, Israel, Lebanon, India, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. In 2018 route had 89.7% load factor. Quite clear they need the additional seats.

https://www.dailysabah.com/business/201 ... passengers


A colleague of mine recently joked that with all the LAX-IST ticket sales, the route should be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize because no other place puts so many Israelis with GCC citizens together.
 
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:38 am

A colleague of mine recently joked that with all the LAX-IST ticket sales, the route should be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize because no other place puts so many Israelis with GCC citizens together.[/quote]


GCC citizens, meaning ?
 
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:34 am

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A colleague of mine recently joked that with all the LAX-IST ticket sales, the route should be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize because no other place puts so many Israelis with GCC citizens together.



GCC citizens, meaning ?[/quote]

Gulf Cooperation Council.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2019

Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:57 am

Do we have any data related to lf of all amercian continent flights by destinations?
From above article, i understood LAX is around 90%,
I remember news at hurriyet whch were mentionng sfo as a low load destination, 200-250 passnagers at some days, so if it is the case it is normal to switch to 789/359
 
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:59 am

Do we know where TK had to use 77W due to range but could not fill it? I expect a gadual swith to 789/359 in future
Next question is which cities will be fovus cities of 77w after arrival of new birds
 
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:44 am

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Do we know where TK had to use 77W due to range but could not fill it? I expect a gadual swith to 789/359 in future
Next question is which cities will be fovus cities of 77w after arrival of new birds

MEX/CUN comes to mind, not sure but ATL would be my candidate. Look at LH USA network where couldn't TK fly that LH flies in the USA? Would be very few IMO, say like a DEN that gets support from UA.
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:39 am

Hi All, greetings to everyone. I have been following the forum for over 10 years but decided to join now and comment on the TC issue. It is much more complicated than it looks and those comments about Turkey will not be affected are unfortunately wishful thinking.

demand is often irrelevant when it comes to package(mass) tourism and supply is all that matters. and the gap can not be completely filled by others, because the plannings for next year are already done. Yes of course all the competition will increase their capacity to a certain extend. But margins being very low and risks in package tourism is very high, no one will go an allocate great amount of flights. And also keep in mind that there is a greater capacity gap in destinations like spain, greece and cyprus, because they are primary TC destinations. The lost capacity with Thomas Cook going down is so massive that no one alone can fill it up. Trust me, I am one of the top 3 competitors of TC, and as much as I am deeply saddened by the bankruptcy, we will for sure seek areas to expand, this will take longer time than you think. when we plan a volume to a destination, we first plan & calculate seats we want to risk. and plan everything on top of it. without flights, no package tourism, very simple equation. And it will be naive to think that all the charter flights from TC can all be replaced by jet2 or tui or easyjet or whomever. Winter business will already be killed, especially the golf charters by TC, lets see how much of the business can be covered for next year. All I can say clearly is that the package prices will increase quite a bit.
 
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:04 pm

gokmengs wrote:
ist2014 wrote:
Do we know where TK had to use 77W due to range but could not fill it? I expect a gadual swith to 789/359 in future
Next question is which cities will be fovus cities of 77w after arrival of new birds

MEX/CUN comes to mind, not sure but ATL would be my candidate. Look at LH USA network where couldn't TK fly that LH flies in the USA? Would be very few IMO, say like a DEN that gets support from UA.


ATL use to be a 777 when it first started but got downgraded to a A330 and then switched to a 787 as of now.
 
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:22 pm

ist2014 wrote:
Do we have any data related to lf of all amercian continent flights by destinations?


2018 load factors for U.S. markets

ATL - 78.4%
BOS - 84.5%
IAD - 90.3%
IAH - 87.1%
JFK - 86.1%
LAX - 89.5%
MIA - 85.7%
ORD - 90.4%
SFO - 86.0%
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:41 pm

aytdxb wrote:
Hi All, greetings to everyone. I have been following the forum for over 10 years but decided to join now and comment on the TC issue. It is much more complicated than it looks and those comments about Turkey will not be affected are unfortunately wishful thinking.

demand is often irrelevant when it comes to package(mass) tourism and supply is all that matters. and the gap can not be completely filled by others, because the plannings for next year are already done. Yes of course all the competition will increase their capacity to a certain extend. But margins being very low and risks in package tourism is very high, no one will go an allocate great amount of flights. And also keep in mind that there is a greater capacity gap in destinations like spain, greece and cyprus, because they are primary TC destinations. The lost capacity with Thomas Cook going down is so massive that no one alone can fill it up. Trust me, I am one of the top 3 competitors of TC, and as much as I am deeply saddened by the bankruptcy, we will for sure seek areas to expand, this will take longer time than you think. when we plan a volume to a destination, we first plan & calculate seats we want to risk. and plan everything on top of it. without flights, no package tourism, very simple equation. And it will be naive to think that all the charter flights from TC can all be replaced by jet2 or tui or easyjet or whomever. Winter business will already be killed, especially the golf charters by TC, lets see how much of the business can be covered for next year. All I can say clearly is that the package prices will increase quite a bit.


Hi welcome to the thread and its great to have some detailed and personal views from someone who actually works in the sector . As I suggested it is exactly as you point out and what a few hoteliers in the business I know are also saying . Looking forward to more posts from you .
 
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:47 pm

Dear laxint
Thank u very much, very valuable data
Actually the only relatively low lg is Atl, swap to 789 will lead to a lower load factor since a332s are 250 seates
In my opinon, they can swithch sto and mia to 789/359 and have a load factor of 90-100%
For the rest seems that 77w is filled
Seems that ord is next candidate for additional frequency
 
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Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:31 am

Dear LAXintl.

Again, many thanks for the 2018 USA load factors of TK...

Do you have access to LFs for Canada and the several destinations in Latin America?

Furthermore, do you also have access to LFs for IST to Telaviv, Tehran, Mumbai, Delhi, Karachi, Islamabad & Dacca which should be the major destinations from USA/Canada via IST/ISL.

Thank you. :thumbsup:
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Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:47 am

I am not surprised by the high LF to ORD. They are aggressively dumping prices from the Balkans to Chicago via Istanbul. Very often you can find tickets for as little as €550.
 
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Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:04 pm

Here are some more LF for 2018.

ADD - 80%
AMM - 71%
BEY - 81%
BKK - 80%
BOM - 80%
CAI - 71%
CAN - 79%
CGK - 79%
DAC - 78%
DEL - 85%
DXB - 82%
GRU - 86%
HKG - 83%
ICN - 76%
IKA - 82%
ISB - 82%
JED - 76%
JNB - 81%
KHI - 87%
NBO - 78%
NRT - 81%
PEK - 80%
PVG - 87%
SGN/HAN - 80%
SIN - 89%
SYZ - 76%
TBZ - 81%
TLV - 75%
YYZ - 88%
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Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:06 pm

I'm quite surprised to see Cairo with a LF of only 71% considering that they have thrice daily A321 service! Since I'm from the region, I'm wondering how the British Isles flights are doing LF-wise? (DUB, LHR, LGW, MAN, BHX, EDI)
 
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Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:39 pm

I'm surprised DEL is not higher since they are constantly asking for more flights to India and they made a deal with IndiGo. Let's see what effect IndiGo has on them in 2019.
 
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Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:51 pm

Dear laxint,
Thank unagain
What i understood is that, 77w is too big for some of asian destinations such as pek, pvg,icn,cgk, nrt, even singapur as well
Loads are between 79-87% whih means 280-309 passangers. In my humble opinin some routes should switch to 789/359 even 788 could be a good fit but not orders
India is an other stoty, they have a subfleet of 77w with 400 pax capacity dedicated tto bom,del and dxb/lhr so 80 means 320 pax
 
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Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:37 pm

Load factor is one thing, cargo volume is another. Some routes might be doing well carrying cargo with low LF.
 
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Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:57 pm

ist2014 wrote:
Dear laxint,
Thank unagain
What i understood is that, 77w is too big for some of asian destinations such as pek, pvg,icn,cgk, nrt, even singapur as well
Loads are between 79-87% whih means 280-309 passangers. In my humble opinin some routes should switch to 789/359 even 788 could be a good fit but not orders
India is an other stoty, they have a subfleet of 77w with 400 pax capacity dedicated tto bom,del and dxb/lhr so 80 means 320 pax


Airlines do not aim for 100% LF. As an airline once you start seeing load factors above 80-85 percent, that means you start turning customers away as many days you will not have the seats, fare or cabin class inventory to sell.

TK787 wrote:
Load factor is one thing, cargo volume is another. Some routes might be doing well carrying cargo with low LF.


:checkmark:

Yes indeed. Cargo is big from many markets esp Far East and many North America gateways.
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Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:07 pm

@ LAXIntl :

Airlines do not aim for 100% LF. As an airline once you start seeing load factors above 80-85 percent, that means you start turning customers away as many days you will not have the seats, fare or cabin class inventory to sell.


Doesn't this contradict with the fact that even the legacy carriers, practice over-booking (at least, from time to time...)?
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:15 am

LAXintl wrote:
ist2014 wrote:
Do we have any data related to lf of all amercian continent flights by destinations?


2018 load factors for U.S. markets

ATL - 78.4%
BOS - 84.5%
IAD - 90.3%
IAH - 87.1%
JFK - 86.1%
LAX - 89.5%
MIA - 85.7%
ORD - 90.4%
SFO - 86.0%


Thanks @LAXintl as always for the great info, The LF's look great and we can clearly see which stations could see additional frequency IMO all other than JFK, ATL, MIA could see additional frequency. Lets see what will happen.
I would love to know what will be the widebody fleet come end of 2020 when we hopefully have the 3rd runway operational.

I would love to see the new North American routes announced soon.
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:59 am

As per TK presentation wb fleet will be as bellow at the end of 2020:

15 b789
5 a359
33 b77w (3 of them are hd used for india and dubai no er mission)
13 a333 (only 5 er)
40 a 333 (only 29 er)
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:06 am

LAXintl wrote:
ist2014 wrote:
Do we have any data related to lf of all amercian continent flights by destinations?


2018 load factors for U.S. markets

ATL - 78.4%
BOS - 84.5%
IAD - 90.3%
IAH - 87.1%
JFK - 86.1%
LAX - 89.5%
MIA - 85.7%
ORD - 90.4%
SFO - 86.0%


Isn’t JFK multiple flights a day already?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:11 am

Delta28L wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
ist2014 wrote:
Do we have any data related to lf of all amercian continent flights by destinations?


2018 load factors for U.S. markets

ATL - 78.4%
BOS - 84.5%
IAD - 90.3%
IAH - 87.1%
JFK - 86.1%
LAX - 89.5%
MIA - 85.7%
ORD - 90.4%
SFO - 86.0%


Isn’t JFK multiple flights a day already?

It is actually 3 flights per day.
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:00 pm

going down to 2 x D for winter :(
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2019

Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:05 pm

Please continue here: Turkish Aviation October 2019
Moderators, please archive this thread since I've started a new thread. Thank you.

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