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AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:19 pm

New non-stops to SAN & PDX, to compliment the existing SEA service that another member pointed out & I omitted originally.

https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2019-09- ... uis-Obispo

Alaska Airlines announced today it will launch daily nonstop service between San Luis Obispo County Regional Airport and San Diego International Airport on Jan. 7, 2020, and San Luis Obispo Regional Airport and Portland International Airport on June 18, 2020. The new destination offers travel enthusiasts from Southern California and the Pacific Northwest easier connectivity to California's fastest growing wine and recreation region. Tickets are on sale now.
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo

Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:23 pm

In addition to their existing service from Seattle.
 
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo

Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:25 pm

Wonder if AS is hoping the SCASD grant for PDX will be approved or if they are adding with the plan of being successful without the grant.
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo

Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:25 pm

ASFlyer wrote:
In addition to their existing service from Seattle.


Thank you, I meant to add "from PDX & SAN" in the title & rushed it out. My bad. I fixed it, thanks.
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo

Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:29 pm

So SAN losses what 7+ destinations but gains San Luis ? Meh.

I know myself and my 3 San Diego based co-workers have status matched with WN this last week once all the cuts were announced. AS needs to serve SAN frequent fliers and they have proven to not be a reliable partner destination wise.
 
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:36 pm

RWA380 wrote:
ASFlyer wrote:
In addition to their existing service from Seattle.


Thank you, I meant to add "from PDX & SAN" in the title & rushed it out. My bad. I fixed it, thanks.


No worries, I assumed you knew that - it was for anyone that may not have known already that AS flew there. I expect there will be a few more new route announcements on the horizon (no pun intended)
 
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:40 pm

Probably SkyWest.. they just opened a MX hanger there...

Edit SAN = OO
PDX = QX
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:43 pm

ASFlyer wrote:
RWA380 wrote:
ASFlyer wrote:
In addition to their existing service from Seattle.


Thank you, I meant to add "from PDX & SAN" in the title & rushed it out. My bad. I fixed it, thanks.


No worries, I assumed you knew that - it was for anyone that may not have known already that AS flew there. I expect there will be a few more new route announcements on the horizon (no pun intended)


Would love to see the resumption of COS.
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:43 pm

I wonder if these flights are marketed towards Cal Poly students doing internships at Intel or Qualcomm
 
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:52 pm

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I wonder if these flights are marketed towards Cal Poly students doing internships at Intel or Qualcomm


There are definitely a ton of Cal Poly students from both cities. However, both will likely be used connection points. It definitely isn't marketed toward a specific company.

It's really great to see the growth of SBP in the last 4 years since I came to SLO. In my 5 years, I will have seen the start of 6 new routes and the opening of a new terminal. Incredible!
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:58 pm

Putting that new SBP terminal to work. PDX is a good add, not sure how viable SAN is in the long run.

Wonder if we're going to see SEA/PDX-MRY next too.
 
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:01 pm

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AS needs to serve SAN frequent fliers and they have proven to not be a reliable partner destination wise.


If you want to see a glaring example of inequity in destinations, look at SEA-PHL and PDX-PHL:

SEA-PHL: 2 daily AA, 2 daily AS
PDX-PHL: 0
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:08 pm

jbpdx wrote:
phxa340 wrote:
AS needs to serve SAN frequent fliers and they have proven to not be a reliable partner destination wise.


If you want to see a glaring example of inequity in destinations, look at SEA-PHL and PDX-PHL:

SEA-PHL: 2 daily AA, 2 daily AS
PDX-PHL: 0


AS operates PDX-PHL summer seasonally.
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:09 pm

There's a growing wine scene on the Central Coast/Paso Robles that is less posh and expensive than Napa. Mostly California based tourism which may help the San Diego route.
 
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:10 pm

phxa340 wrote:
So SAN losses what 7+ destinations but gains San Luis ? Meh.

I know myself and my 3 San Diego based co-workers have status matched with WN this last week once all the cuts were announced. AS needs to serve SAN frequent fliers and they have proven to not be a reliable partner destination wise.


Guess you and your co-workers didn't fly those routes enough.
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:17 pm

SAN-SBP is already well served by Amtrak. Not sure who’ll fly this route who isn’t connecting. Those who would choose not to drive would be better off taking the train.
 
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:20 pm

continental004 wrote:
SAN-SBP is already well served by Amtrak. Not sure who’ll fly this route who isn’t connecting. Those who would choose not to drive would be better off taking the train.


Guessing you're not familiar with West Coast train travel.

San Diego - Santa Fe Depot to San Luis Obispo: 8 hours, 31 minutes
 
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:23 pm

LAXBUR wrote:
continental004 wrote:
SAN-SBP is already well served by Amtrak. Not sure who’ll fly this route who isn’t connecting. Those who would choose not to drive would be better off taking the train.


Guessing you're not familiar with West Coast train travel.

San Diego - Santa Fe Depot to San Luis Obispo: 8 hours, 31 minutes


And like maybe a transfer... but on some parts really nice view.
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:31 pm

LAXBUR wrote:
continental004 wrote:
SAN-SBP is already well served by Amtrak. Not sure who’ll fly this route who isn’t connecting. Those who would choose not to drive would be better off taking the train.


Guessing you're not familiar with West Coast train travel.

San Diego - Santa Fe Depot to San Luis Obispo: 8 hours, 31 minutes


I live in SoCal and I very much am familiar.
 
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:31 pm

I have a work trip from PDX to SLO in October. Had to fly into FAT and out of SBA to make it work.
This is way better!!
 
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:31 pm

continental004 wrote:
LAXBUR wrote:
continental004 wrote:
SAN-SBP is already well served by Amtrak. Not sure who’ll fly this route who isn’t connecting. Those who would choose not to drive would be better off taking the train.


Guessing you're not familiar with West Coast train travel.

San Diego - Santa Fe Depot to San Luis Obispo: 8 hours, 31 minutes


I live in SoCal and I very much am familiar.


Then you should know that an hour and change flight even with security is not the same as a 8 plus hours. Those are not competitive.
 
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:58 pm

jbpdx wrote:
phxa340 wrote:
AS needs to serve SAN frequent fliers and they have proven to not be a reliable partner destination wise.


If you want to see a glaring example of inequity in destinations, look at SEA-PHL and PDX-PHL:

SEA-PHL: 2 daily AA, 2 daily AS
PDX-PHL: 0


Look at the difference in total airport O&D SEA vs. PDX. Look at the better connecting opportunities (both frequency and destination count). This is like complaining that Kansas City doesn't have the theater offerings of Broadway.
 
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:05 am

LAXBUR wrote:
continental004 wrote:
SAN-SBP is already well served by Amtrak. Not sure who’ll fly this route who isn’t connecting. Those who would choose not to drive would be better off taking the train.


Guessing you're not familiar with West Coast train travel.

San Diego - Santa Fe Depot to San Luis Obispo: 8 hours, 31 minutes

I know of a few people who take the train to the Greater LA area, but none who go all the way to SD.

That's 8:31 without the inevitable delays as well.
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:36 am

What kind of equipment are we talking about?
 
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:37 am

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What kind of equipment are we talking about?


E175 for both, QX operated from PDX and OO operated from SAN.
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:39 am

I'm happy to see Alaska adding new service to PDX!!
 
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:44 am

LAXBUR wrote:
continental004 wrote:
LAXBUR wrote:

Guessing you're not familiar with West Coast train travel.

San Diego - Santa Fe Depot to San Luis Obispo: 8 hours, 31 minutes


I live in SoCal and I very much am familiar.


Then you should know that an hour and change flight even with security is not the same as a 8 plus hours. Those are not competitive.


Taking the train is a much smoother experience and is much more environmentally friendly. I like planes as much as you do but we’ve gotta be realistic here.
 
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:57 am

I think the best part of the train to San Luis Obispo is passing through the launch pads at Vandenberg AFB. Everyone on a.net should do that at least once.
 
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:01 am

continental004 wrote:
LAXBUR wrote:
continental004 wrote:

I live in SoCal and I very much am familiar.


Then you should know that an hour and change flight even with security is not the same as a 8 plus hours. Those are not competitive.


Taking the train is a much smoother experience and is much more environmentally friendly. I like planes as much as you do but we’ve gotta be realistic here.


You aren't being realistic, you're being idealistic. By your logic everyone would also take the train to San Francisco from LA. Instead there are hundreds of flights a day from the LA Basin to the Bay Area. Why? Because no business person and most leisure travelers don't want to take a whole day to get to the next largest Metro in California.

Back t SBP, Amtrak is not at all competitive between these city pairs when head to head with an airplane. Especially with San Diego Airport being literally Downtown. It also really isn't that cheap with tickets starting at over $60 advanced...for 8.5 hours. The real question is how many people are traveling between these two cities in the first place and the cost benefit of flying over driving. Amtrak really doesn't factor here as it isn't exactly a good value being a whole 2+ hours longer than driving and leaving you without a car when you arrive. Amtrak in the West is still mostly a niche player.
 
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:11 am

MIflyer12 wrote:
jbpdx wrote:
phxa340 wrote:
AS needs to serve SAN frequent fliers and they have proven to not be a reliable partner destination wise.


If you want to see a glaring example of inequity in destinations, look at SEA-PHL and PDX-PHL:

SEA-PHL: 2 daily AA, 2 daily AS
PDX-PHL: 0


Look at the difference in total airport O&D SEA vs. PDX. Look at the better connecting opportunities (both frequency and destination count). This is like complaining that Kansas City doesn't have the theater offerings of Broadway.


I don't think Portlanders realize how lucky they are that Seattle has a heavily congested undersized airport, going through two major construction projects, that have taken down several gates for the next 2 years.

This can only be to Portland's benefit which has an excellent airport with plenty of room to grow. Alaska has to be more selective with its growth in SEA which means growing market share in some markets will be done at PDX.

Using PDX-SBP as an example, if SEA had plenty of room to grow, it is possible that AS, may have elected to boost frequency on SEA-SBP instead of launching PDX-SBP at this time.
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo

Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:46 am

LAXBUR wrote:
phxa340 wrote:
So SAN losses what 7+ destinations but gains San Luis ? Meh.

I know myself and my 3 San Diego based co-workers have status matched with WN this last week once all the cuts were announced. AS needs to serve SAN frequent fliers and they have proven to not be a reliable partner destination wise.


Guess you and your co-workers didn't fly those routes enough.

The loads on some of these flights were extremely good and they were not cheap
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:18 am

LAXBUR wrote:
continental004 wrote:
LAXBUR wrote:

Then you should know that an hour and change flight even with security is not the same as a 8 plus hours. Those are not competitive.


Taking the train is a much smoother experience and is much more environmentally friendly. I like planes as much as you do but we’ve gotta be realistic here.


You aren't being realistic, you're being idealistic. By your logic everyone would also take the train to San Francisco from LA. Instead there are hundreds of flights a day from the LA Basin to the Bay Area. Why? Because no business person and most leisure travelers don't want to take a whole day to get to the next largest Metro in California.

Back t SBP, Amtrak is not at all competitive between these city pairs when head to head with an airplane. Especially with San Diego Airport being literally Downtown. It also really isn't that cheap with tickets starting at over $60 advanced...for 8.5 hours. The real question is how many people are traveling between these two cities in the first place and the cost benefit of flying over driving. Amtrak really doesn't factor here as it isn't exactly a good value being a whole 2+ hours longer than driving and leaving you without a car when you arrive. Amtrak in the West is still mostly a niche player.


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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:17 am

Sigh...once again a smaller city gains more service while nearby BFL languishes. As I understand, BFL's management has been trying to woo AS to PDX or SEA for years, but thus far, nothing. What a difference a business climate can make...

On the other hand, congratulations to SLO!
 
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:26 am

PSAatSAN4Ever wrote:
Sigh...once again a smaller city gains more service while nearby BFL languishes. As I understand, BFL's management has been trying to woo AS to PDX or SEA for years, but thus far, nothing. What a difference a business climate can make...


I was on a Fresno-Portland flight a couple of months ago. A couple of the other passengers were from Bakersfield.

Instead of driving from Bakersfield to BUR or LAX or taking a BFL flight with a connection, they drove to FAT for the PDX nonstop flight. Bakersfield to FAT is the same number of freeway miles as Bakersfield to BUR. But they preferred the easier drive compared to fighting traffic to a larger airport.
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:35 am

I flew out of BFL a couple years ago to IAH...oil flight. BFL is a great little airport.

(I did it to visit Houston and go somewhere new with a low dollar flight credit to use before expiring)

I don't think the IAH flight has survived?
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:26 am

continental004 wrote:
SAN-SBP is already well served by Amtrak. Not sure who’ll fly this route who isn’t connecting. Those who would choose not to drive would be better off taking the train.


That train service is garbage. Don't forget the ghetto stop at LA Union station.

It's one thing to do San Diego - LA but all the way to SLO? No way.
 
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:31 am

Wow! That extended runway and new terminal at SBP really seem to be getting put to good use. I'm sure all the new nonstop flights are a great alternative to risky connections via LAX/SFO...
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:32 am

WN732 wrote:
continental004 wrote:
SAN-SBP is already well served by Amtrak. Not sure who’ll fly this route who isn’t connecting. Those who would choose not to drive would be better off taking the train.


That train service is garbage. Don't forget the ghetto stop at LA Union station.

It's one thing to do San Diego - LA but all the way to SLO? No way.


Sounds like you've never taken it and taken advantage of the beautiful coastal views. And did you get off at Union Station to call it ghetto?
 
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:42 am

Think that “Alaska’ airlines should change it’s name to California Airlines
 
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:21 am

I figured we'd see this route sooner or later; the chances of it happening now, during the AS strategy change, seemed heightened. I think the nonstop connection between SAN and SBP will do well, just as FAT, MRY and STS have -- all unserved markets that had unrealized traffic and are doing fine.

I expect SAN-SBA will happen at some point as well.

Another '+' in the SAN column, eating quickly away at the '-'s we've recently seen! (Second new nonstop route announced in a week -- I'll take 'em.)

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Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:34 pm

After looking carefully at the schedules AS currently has in place at SBP on Jan 7, 2020, I don't think they are finished with new SBP routes.

The SEA-SBP flight currently shows a 12:14pm arrival in SBP but the departure back up to SEA is moved to 5:55pm. That gap does not get filled by the new SAN-flight, nor PDX as that route doesn't begin until June 18 next year.

The only thing I can think of is that AS plans on adding a new r/t to the Bay Area to fill that gap - SJC or SFO? (Or possibly to the LA area?) It would depart SBP ~1pm and return ~5pm.

It is of course possible that there will simply be a schedule revision to SEA-SBP-SEA between now and January that will 'fix' that gap but I think the chances of that are poor. It will be interesting to see how this resolves...

Oh, and I also noticed that AS is using the same flight number (3308) for the SAN-SBP flight as well as for SBP-SAN: the EMJ does a simple turn in SBP but this is very unusual for AS as far as I know. (Although it's very common for the legacies now but AAG is not that low on available flight numbers.) Interesting to see if that remains unchanged when the service begins.

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Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:41 pm

continental004 wrote:
WN732 wrote:
continental004 wrote:
SAN-SBP is already well served by Amtrak. Not sure who’ll fly this route who isn’t connecting. Those who would choose not to drive would be better off taking the train.


That train service is garbage. Don't forget the ghetto stop at LA Union station.

It's one thing to do San Diego - LA but all the way to SLO? No way.


Sounds like you've never taken it and taken advantage of the beautiful coastal views. And did you get off at Union Station to call it ghetto?


I have actually. I've been on the entire Amtrak CA system. My point is that it is inefficient for such a short distance. And yes Union Station is super ghetto, especially at night. The trains havent been updated since 2000 and its not like they have anything special going on. You could drive it even with LA traffic faster than that train will get you there.
 
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:50 pm

alasizon wrote:
Wonder if AS is hoping the SCASD grant for PDX will be approved or if they are adding with the plan of being successful without the grant.


I read the SBP SCASD application. Seems like AS just ruined their chances of winning it to me. The SBP SCASD application was for funds to provide a minimum revenue guarantee to AS to convince them to start service. AS just told the Feds they don't need an MRG. Seems like sloppy network planning on AS's part. If they just could have waited to announce they probably could have had guaranteed revenue - given how successful the SCASD grant was for SBP-SEA on AS, I'd think the Feds would have looked positively on this application. But maybe AS doesn't think they need it.
 
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:33 pm

SANFan wrote:
I figured we'd see this route sooner or later; the chances of it happening now, during the AS strategy change, seemed heightened. I think the nonstop connection between SAN and SBP will do well, just as FAT, MRY and STS have -- all unserved markets that had unrealized traffic and are doing fine.

I expect SAN-SBA will happen at some point as well.

Another '+' in the SAN column, eating quickly away at the '-'s we've recently seen! (Second new nonstop route announced in a week -- I'll take 'em.)

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Like I recently said, AS is moving more to point to point, and is obviously shifting its focus to the west. It will be interesting to see what transpires.
 
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:50 pm

SANFan wrote:
The SEA-SBP flight currently shows a 12:14pm arrival in SBP but the departure back up to SEA is moved to 5:55pm. That gap does not get filled by the new SAN-flight, nor PDX as that route doesn't begin until June 18 next year.


SEA-SBP is also shown as QX, while SBP-SEA is shown as OO. Something could be in the works in terms of an additional new route, but it seems like it would need to NOT be a turn unless the SEA schedule is going to be updated in some way.
 
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:17 pm

TW787 wrote:
Seems like sloppy network planning on AS's part.


Given how they pull out of routes so quickly these days, their network planning really seems like a rudderless ship. Or maybe people at Angle Lake are throwing darts at a map.
 
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:18 pm

steex wrote:
SANFan wrote:
The SEA-SBP flight currently shows a 12:14pm arrival in SBP but the departure back up to SEA is moved to 5:55pm. That gap does not get filled by the new SAN-flight, nor PDX as that route doesn't begin until June 18 next year.

SEA-SBP is also shown as QX, while SBP-SEA is shown as OO. Something could be in the works in terms of an additional new route, but it seems like it would need to NOT be a turn unless the SEA schedule is going to be updated in some way.

Yes! I noticed that equipment discrepancy as well but forgot to mention it in my post. (And yes, it does eliminate the possibility of a simple turn in the destination station.) This far out, I wouldn't normally even think about these things but the Jan 7 sked seems to be fairly complete; heck, so do the March 19 and even the May 21 ones.

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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:28 pm

amcnd wrote:
Probably SkyWest.. they just opened a MX hanger there...

Edit SAN = OO
PDX = QX


San Luis for the maintenance?
 
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:40 pm

chrisair wrote:

Given how they pull out of routes so quickly these days, their network planning really seems like a rudderless ship. Or maybe people at Angle Lake are throwing darts at a map.


Agreed. They drove away all their Network Planning talent and put someone in charge of Network Planning who has no Network Planning experience. So I don't know how you could expect any different.

With that move, I think it is a clear indication that there need to be some Senior Management changes at AS.
 
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Re: AS announces San Luis Obispo from PDX & SAN

Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:54 pm

I checked the July 1 schedules and all the turns are simple

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