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Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:09 pm

Typhoon Faixai has rapidly intensified from 55 to 105 knots in the last 24 hours and JMA and the USN both have a track that places it in the greater Tokyo region by nightfall Sunday Tokyo time. Other tracks have it going slightly east but the USN states they have ‘high confidence’ in forecast model agreement.

Sea surface temps are running 29C and the environment is good overall at upper levels so not much weakening is expected before landfall.

Could be a rough one for cancellations and delays at HND/NRT through midday Monday.

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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:46 pm

The good news is that it's moving relatively quickly so the impact will probably be limited.
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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:44 pm

Only Cat 2 - wont have too much impact, Japan endures tens of Typhoons every year.

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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:07 am

Narita and ANA handle the weather quite well... looking back into the same period last year, only 4% of Domestic flights were cancelled due to weather by ANA, while only .4% of international flights were cancelled.
 
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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:15 am

Japanese ability to handle a typhoon is unparalleled, I was in KIX to experience Typhoon Hebei last year which I believe was the strongest to hit Japan in a good clip. I was flying to ICN a week later and was worried when the bridge was taken out and the runway flooded. Within the week the bridge was fixed and operations returned to normal.

Recently Japanese airports released their disaster readiness plans, I'm sure they're well prepared.

I have a question for the amateur meteorologists on this thread, why do these storms that impact Japan pass so quickly in comparison to Atlantic hurricanes?
 
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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:24 am

Flying from GMP to HND tomorrow morning, a cancellation would be a bummer
 
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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:43 am

Scarebus34 wrote:
Narita and ANA handle the weather quite well... looking back into the same period last year, only 4% of Domestic flights were cancelled due to weather by ANA, while only .4% of international flights were cancelled.

Japanese usually never cancel flights they just push them back and back.
 
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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:50 am

eamondzhang wrote:
Only Cat 2 - wont have too much impact, Japan endures tens of Typhoons every year.

Michael

It is still a bit rare for a typhoon of such intensity to hit Tokyo directly. I saw a news saying that they are expecting record level of wind at area including Tokyo itself.
When no other countries around the world is going to militarily stop China and its subordinate fom abusing its citizens within its national boundary, it is unreasonable to expect those abuse can be countered with purely peaceful means.
 
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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:51 am

brabb12 wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
Narita and ANA handle the weather quite well... looking back into the same period last year, only 4% of Domestic flights were cancelled due to weather by ANA, while only .4% of international flights were cancelled.

Japanese usually never cancel flights they just push them back and back.

This is absolutely false by all accounts. In events like this they don't hesitate to cancel flights, domestic or international, and they frequently cancel too much (usually cancels the whole day's flight when the effect was really for half of the day). I was in Japan when Typhoon Krosa hit Chuko/Kansai area and the domestic flights in the area, both JAL/ANA (as well as smaller carriers), were cancelled for most of the day on 15 August.

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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:06 pm

eal wrote:
I have a question for the amateur meteorologists on this thread, why do these storms that impact Japan pass so quickly in comparison to Atlantic hurricanes?


The main islands of Japan are a similar latitude to New York City; it's pretty far north. At that latitude, the storms speed up in movement and transform their structure to become mid-latitude depressions (extratropical storm).

Most tropical cyclones that approach Japan weaken in peak wind strength, down to Cat 1 or Severe TS strength due to cooler sea surface temperatures and increasing vertical wind shear that rip apart the structure of the storm.

Faxai is unusual in that sea surface temperature around Japan is unusually high at 29c and is projected to be Cat 3 on landfall.
 
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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:02 pm

Pacific wrote:
eal wrote:
I have a question for the amateur meteorologists on this thread, why do these storms that impact Japan pass so quickly in comparison to Atlantic hurricanes?


The main islands of Japan are a similar latitude to New York City; it's pretty far north. At that latitude, the storms speed up in movement and transform their structure to become mid-latitude depressions (extratropical storm).

Most tropical cyclones that approach Japan weaken in peak wind strength, down to Cat 1 or Severe TS strength due to cooler sea surface temperatures and increasing vertical wind shear that rip apart the structure of the storm.

Faxai is unusual in that sea surface temperature around Japan is unusually high at 29c and is projected to be Cat 3 on landfall.


Thank you! Wow a Cat 3 isn't nothing to play with, hopefully it moves through quickly.
 
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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:22 pm

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... awire-soci

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So far >100 flights, mostly before noon, had been cancelled out of HND.
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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:40 pm

https://www.tokyo-airport-bldg.co.jp/flight/?all=1

Seems like cancellation are only up to ~9am Japan Time (Which is about 1.5hrs away from now).

Otherwise, AFAIK it's mostly just power outages being the impact of the Typhoon.
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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:00 am

Narita is dead... just about every flight cancelled as roads, rail access are cut. Both JR and Keisei trains to NRT are not running.

Only some local Keisei trains restored by 6pm local time but it takes >2 hrs to get to from central tokyo. CNN reports 7K stranded and its likely to get worse.
 
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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:24 am

Typhoon has left Tokyo. The winds and rain were just blasting all through the night here.
Lots of pro-active measures were taken in terms of cancellations though at both airports.
Even the Shinkansen out of Tokyo was cancelled after 9pm here
 
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Re: Cat 2 Typhoon Faixai Heading for Tokyo

Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:00 pm

downdata wrote:
Narita is dead... just about every flight cancelled as roads, rail access are cut. Both JR and Keisei trains to NRT are not running.

Only some local Keisei trains restored by 6pm local time but it takes >2 hrs to get to from central tokyo. CNN reports 7K stranded and its likely to get worse.

Keisei Sky Access service was reportedly resumed after 17:45 local time. There was 10k people stranded at the airport at 17:00. JR service to Narita will remain suspended for the whole day. On the other hand some bus service have been partially resumed according to report.
When no other countries around the world is going to militarily stop China and its subordinate fom abusing its citizens within its national boundary, it is unreasonable to expect those abuse can be countered with purely peaceful means.

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