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BA9154 diversion into OAK (Sept 8)

Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:04 am

Was just coming across the San Mateo bridge 20min ago when from a distance I see a irregular heavy on OAK approach. I was still at a distance at dusk but I made out the tail and quickly looked at Flightradar. Looks like it flew around the bay for a bit outta SFO.

Anyone got any info on the reasoning. Might be the 1st a380 at Oakland Airport. Tried to catch ATC chatter via my app but nothing...
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:09 am

I'm pretty sure it's not a diversion... 9154 is a scheduled charter flight, right?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 4#22071429
 
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:09 am

Bonafide wrote:
Was just coming across the San Mateo bridge 20min ago when from a distance I see a irregular heavy on OAK approach. I was still at a distance at dusk but I made out the tail and quickly looked at Flightradar. Looks like it flew around the bay for a bit outta SFO.

Anyone got any info on the reasoning. Might be the 1st a380 at Oakland Airport. Tried to catch ATC chatter via my app but nothing...


LH had to divert one there when OZ crashed. It's a bit of trouble, but OAK has also hosted the AN-225 so they can handle an A380.

Anyway, looking up the history for this flight number shows a lot of flights that do things like departing LHR and arrive at LHR or depart LHR and arrive at CWL or vice-versa, although there are some JFK-LHR legs and a JNB-LHR leg. So it seems as if this flight number is mostly used for maintenance or repositioning. But why would BA intentionally fly an A380 to OAK from SFO? The whole thing looks a little too smoothly planned-out to be a diversion. I can't imagine there's a maintenance situation that they can't handle at SFO but can at OAK. Is there some special event? Member of the royal family?
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:11 am

This was not a diversion. The aircraft was positioned from SFO to OAK.
 
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:12 am

Additionally, this is not the first time an A380 has been to OAK:

https://patch.com/california/alameda/lu ... nd-airport

Lufthansa has diverted there before.
 
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:12 am

Scarebus34 wrote:
This was not a diversion. The aircraft was positioned from SFO to OAK.


I'm guessing it'll be sat there until Wednesday now?
 
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:15 am

[twoid][/twoid]
pdp wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
This was not a diversion. The aircraft was positioned from SFO to OAK.


I'm guessing it'll be sat there until Wednesday now?

Was likely positioned due to the cancellations caused by BA pilot industrial action. Not enough room to leave it parked at SFO.
 
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:29 am

Scarebus34 wrote:
[twoid][/twoid]
pdp wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
This was not a diversion. The aircraft was positioned from SFO to OAK.


I'm guessing it'll be sat there until Wednesday now?

Was likely positioned due to the cancellations caused by BA pilot industrial action. Not enough room to leave it parked at SFO.


Who flies it if the pilots are on strike?
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:31 am

Copy...thx for the info. Wasn't aware of BA having internal issues. Not used to seeing anything larger than a MD11 or 777f on approach to OAK despite me living right under the glide path
 
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:18 am

DocLightning wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
[twoid][/twoid]
pdp wrote:

I'm guessing it'll be sat there until Wednesday now?

Was likely positioned due to the cancellations caused by BA pilot industrial action. Not enough room to leave it parked at SFO.


Who flies it if the pilots are on strike?


IIRC, If BA wanted to "ferry" an aircraft, especially for a few days of storage, the maintenance company would be able to ferry the aircraft on behalf of BA, as it's just a mere 7 minutes. I can remeber sitting on a long layover at SFO for the evening SFO-LHR on PA, yes now dating myself.

I watched a UA DC-8-71 take off from Oakland to the North, turned right 180 degrees & went down near the end of the bay & began approach to SFO landing to the North. I could have sworn it was under 5 minutes, but didn't time it. I watched UA push a 742 out of SFO that was being ferried to OAK for maintenance after we arrived from HNL.

I have a feeling in several airports that are pretty constrained, this BA aircraft shuffle is happening & if crews are stuck, I think BA is moving crews in less safe places a stay elsewhere. BA does need to watch out better for their crews, they go to the far corners of the globe & need a way to stay safe while in certain cities.
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:46 am

RWA380 wrote:
DocLightning wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
[twoid][/twoid]
Was likely positioned due to the cancellations caused by BA pilot industrial action. Not enough room to leave it parked at SFO.


Who flies it if the pilots are on strike?


IIRC, If BA wanted to "ferry" an aircraft, especially for a few days of storage, the maintenance company would be able to ferry the aircraft on behalf of BA, as it's just a mere 7 minutes. I can remeber sitting on a long layover at SFO for the evening SFO-LHR on PA, yes now dating myself.

I watched a UA DC-8-71 take off from Oakland to the North, turned right 180 degrees & went down near the end of the bay & began approach to SFO landing to the North. I could have sworn it was under 5 minutes, but didn't time it. I watched UA push a 742 out of SFO that was being ferried to OAK for maintenance after we arrived from HNL.

I have a feeling in several airports that are pretty constrained, this BA aircraft shuffle is happening & if crews are stuck, I think BA is moving crews in less safe places a stay elsewhere. BA does need to watch out better for their crews, they go to the far corners of the globe & need a way to stay safe while in certain cities.

Are you serious? A mechanic cannot ferry and aircraft
 
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:49 am

RWA380 wrote:
DocLightning wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
[twoid][/twoid]
Was likely positioned due to the cancellations caused by BA pilot industrial action. Not enough room to leave it parked at SFO.


Who flies it if the pilots are on strike?


IIRC, If BA wanted to "ferry" an aircraft, especially for a few days of storage, the maintenance company would be able to ferry the aircraft on behalf of BA, as it's just a mere 7 minutes. I can remeber sitting on a long layover at SFO for the evening SFO-LHR on PA, yes now dating myself.

I watched a UA DC-8-71 take off from Oakland to the North, turned right 180 degrees & went down near the end of the bay & began approach to SFO landing to the North. I could have sworn it was under 5 minutes, but didn't time it. I watched UA push a 742 out of SFO that was being ferried to OAK for maintenance after we arrived from HNL.

I have a feeling in several airports that are pretty constrained, this BA aircraft shuffle is happening & if crews are stuck, I think BA is moving crews in less safe places a stay elsewhere. BA does need to watch out better for their crews, they go to the far corners of the globe & need a way to stay safe while in certain cities.


I've never heard of a maintenance company ferrying active aircraft like that, I'm pretty sure that it's impossible from an operational and insurance standpoint.
MRO's also don't have A380 pilots on call.
The only ferrying that maintenance companies do is in case of a repo on behalf of a lessor or when taxiing within the airport.
 
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:15 am

There were three of these flights positioning aircraft for short term storage:
BA9154 A380 G-XLEG SFO-OAK
BA9152 A380 G-XLED BOS-IAD
BA9150 B77E G-VIIE EWR-IAD

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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:55 am

Flight took 21 mins according to FR24 : https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... g#22071429
 
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:41 am

Heard it fly over my place in SF. Was odd enough to hear a heavy fly over in good weather, so looked it up and followed it on FR24. Funny to come here and find this thread!
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:20 pm

As I just posted in the NOLA thread, I happened to stop by SJC yesterday evening, and noticed the BA 787 being towed from the gate to a remote parking spot. I thought the flight was scheduled daily l so I was stumped as to why. Are *all* BA flights canceled, or just some?
 
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:42 pm

AirFiero wrote:
As I just posted in the NOLA thread, I happened to stop by SJC yesterday evening, and noticed the BA 787 being towed from the gate to a remote parking spot. I thought the flight was scheduled daily l so I was stumped as to why. Are *all* BA flights canceled, or just some?

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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:02 pm

The morning Boston-Heathrow flight (238) went today (777 G-YMMP), probably one of the only ones in the air. I wonder is the pilots are going to be seen as 'scabs' upon touchdown this evening.
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:39 pm

DocLightning wrote:
Who flies it if the pilots are on strike?


From BA's website, the strike is September 9 and 10, so there should have been no issue with moving the aircraft yesterday (the 8th).
 
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:41 pm

ChrisNH38 wrote:
The morning Boston-Heathrow flight (238) went today (777 G-YMMP), probably one of the only ones in the air. I wonder is the pilots are going to be seen as 'scabs' upon touchdown this evening.

With a pilot strike, usually only crews leaving main base are on strike. But BA cannot allow aircraft arrivals without departures at LHR, there isn't any room to park them. So BA cancelled most of the inbounds and left the aircraft (and the crews) where they were. Perhaps this aircraft was required for maintenance, or maybe it had a management crew to fly it.
 
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Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:38 pm

Was wondering why there are two BA heavies (744 and 777) on the cargo ramp at SEA today.

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