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Starlux announces first flight date and routes

Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:50 pm

Starlux has announced the date of its maiden flight as Jan. 23, 2020.

Carrier will initially offer single daily roundtrip to Macao, Da Nang, Vietnam, and Penang, Malaysia.

First A321neo delivery is scheduled for November.

The airline simultaneously introduced its first cadre of 14 pilots

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https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3772908
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Re: Starlux announces first flight date and routes

Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:35 pm

Interesting choice of leisure routes, for what I understood from past threads on here about them, was going to be a business traveller target airline. MFM & DAD are already well served from ICN but they'll have the PEN route to themselves.
 
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Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:48 pm

TC957 wrote:
Interesting choice of leisure routes, for what I understood from past threads on here about them, was going to be a business traveller target airline. MFM & DAD are already well served from ICN but they'll have the PEN route to themselves.


Starlux is based in Taiwan not Korea. These routes will presumably operate from TPE.
 
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Re: Starlux announces first flight date and routes

Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:50 pm

As they are a Taiwanese venture am I correct to assume that they will fly these routes from TPE? It is not mentioned in the story or OP.
 
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Re: Starlux announces first flight date and routes

Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:56 pm

TC957 wrote:
Interesting choice of leisure routes, for what I understood from past threads on here about them, was going to be a business traveller target airline. MFM & DAD are already well served from ICN but they'll have the PEN route to themselves.


You might have confused with another thread about Air Premia base in Korea. Starlux is a Taiwanese airline that will fly from TPE.

Nonetheless those 3 destinations are interesting choice. MFM has huge competition from Air Macau/BR/tigerair Taiwan with each of them flying no less than 3 daily, while PEN currently has a daily CI flight and DAD is served by Far Eastern and Jetstar Vietnam, which means they will be competing with completely different airlines in different routes.
 
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Re: Starlux announces first flight date and routes

Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:23 pm

patrickw421 wrote:
TC957 wrote:
Interesting choice of leisure routes, for what I understood from past threads on here about them, was going to be a business traveller target airline. MFM & DAD are already well served from ICN but they'll have the PEN route to themselves.


You might have confused with another thread about Air Premia base in Korea. Starlux is a Taiwanese airline that will fly from TPE.

Nonetheless those 3 destinations are interesting choice. MFM has huge competition from Air Macau/BR/tigerair Taiwan with each of them flying no less than 3 daily, while PEN currently has a daily CI flight and DAD is served by Far Eastern and Jetstar Vietnam, which means they will be competing with completely different airlines in different routes.


For TPE-DAD:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-23jul19/
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -dec-2019/

So it'll be 5 carriers (including Starlux) soon.

steex wrote:
As they are a Taiwanese venture am I correct to assume that they will fly these routes from TPE? It is not mentioned in the story or OP.


According to some earlier news, yes, those routes would be out of TPE.

(Chinese only)
https://finance.technews.tw/2019/08/19/ ... as-formed/

The source also mention CXR, VDO (Halong Bay/Van Don), BKK (Should be next batch), CNX, HKT. Although traffic to/from Japan is large, SE Asia seems to be the primary target for now. Eventually for Japan they are planning to fly to OKA, KIX, FUK, SDJ, CTS, HKD, NGO, and NRT.

One last note? To stick it to BR, they're planning to collaborate with CI on maintenance

Also, according to this:
https://udn.com/news/story/7241/4035434 ... s-1-0-news

BKK and CEB should be next.
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Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:33 pm

Wish them the best of luck. However I was under the impression they were planning to be more of a premium airline. These don't seem that much like premium destinations
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Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:39 pm

Per thread from 2 months ago they had acquired following route rights so far at the time:

Okinawa (OKA)
Osaka (KIX)
Fukuoka (FUK)
Sendai (SDJ)
Sapporo (CTS)
Hakodate (HKD)
Nagoya (NGO)
Tokyo Narita (NRT)
Bangkok (BKK)
Chiang Mai (CNX)
Phuket (HKT)
Macau (MFM)
Da Nang (DAD)
Van Don (VDO)
Nha Trang (CXR)
Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)

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Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:47 pm

Is the Taiwanese market big enough for three large full service carriers, though? Considering TransAsia went bye-bye a few years ago (though that was more of their own fault than due to the market).
 
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Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:25 am

patrickw421 wrote:
TC957 wrote:
Interesting choice of leisure routes, for what I understood from past threads on here about them, was going to be a business traveller target airline. MFM & DAD are already well served from ICN but they'll have the PEN route to themselves.


You might have confused with another thread about Air Premia base in Korea. Starlux is a Taiwanese airline that will fly from TPE.

Nonetheless those 3 destinations are interesting choice. MFM has huge competition from Air Macau/BR/tigerair Taiwan with each of them flying no less than 3 daily, while PEN currently has a daily CI flight and DAD is served by Far Eastern and Jetstar Vietnam, which means they will be competing with completely different airlines in different routes.

It's said that they will offer 2-3 daily flight frequency on the Macau route.
OA940 wrote:
Wish them the best of luck. However I was under the impression they were planning to be more of a premium airline. These don't seem that much like premium destinations

They said that Singapore is too far out and won't be launch until they have A350, application for starting service to Japan is a bit more complex so they'll only be launch in the second wave, and then from what I recall Taiwan's bilateral right with HKG and mainland China have been almost fully utilized already so they cannot expand toward these directions. There aren't that many premium destinations they can fly to at the beginning with A321n other than those.
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Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:57 am

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Is the Taiwanese market big enough for three large full service carriers, though? Considering TransAsia went bye-bye a few years ago (though that was more of their own fault than due to the market).


With only about a 23 million population, Taiwan itself couldn't obviously couldn't support three major airlines. I'd imagine Starlux will be banking on being a trans pacific hub airline.

With the growth in South East Asian economies, there will be increased demand for trans pacific flights but it will depend of where they can establish a customer base in these first few years.
 
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Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:12 pm

seansasLCY wrote:
TC957 wrote:
Interesting choice of leisure routes, for what I understood from past threads on here about them, was going to be a business traveller target airline. MFM & DAD are already well served from ICN but they'll have the PEN route to themselves.


Starlux is based in Taiwan not Korea. These routes will presumably operate from TPE.

Oops ! my bad.....
 
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Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:58 pm

Pcoder wrote:
filipinoavgeek wrote:
Is the Taiwanese market big enough for three large full service carriers, though? Considering TransAsia went bye-bye a few years ago (though that was more of their own fault than due to the market).


With only about a 23 million population, Taiwan itself couldn't obviously couldn't support three major airlines. I'd imagine Starlux will be banking on being a trans pacific hub airline.

With the growth in South East Asian economies, there will be increased demand for trans pacific flights but it will depend of where they can establish a customer base in these first few years.


There’s only so much demand that will be created though for those routes, and more competition will be on the horizon if it does grow, so it won’t be easy.

They have a significant fleet on widebodies on order too so they will have to find something for them to do, but I do wonder just how many viable options there are.
 
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Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:14 pm

By the look of it, CI and StarLux are now working together to poach staff from BR since the latter has been operating A321 for long time. At the same time StarLux also poached a lot of pilot and cabin crew from BR before and during recent BR strike. They also benefitted from previous TransAsia staff. He also mentioned StarLux in long term will fly to every US destinations that BR currently serves. Lolx.....You got to give it to its founder Chang Kuo-Wei!

Their first A321neo is now fully painted. What a stunner!
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Re: Starlux announces first flight date and routes

Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:37 pm

IATA and ICAO assigned Starlux its code and callsign.

IATA = JX
ICAO = SJX
Callsign = Starwalker
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Re: Starlux announces first flight date and routes

Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:33 am

LAXintl wrote:
Starlux has announced the date of its maiden flight as Jan. 23, 2020.

Carrier will initially offer single daily roundtrip to Macao, Da Nang, Vietnam, and Penang, Malaysia.

First A321neo delivery is scheduled for November.

The airline simultaneously introduced its first cadre of 14 pilots

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https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3772908


Nice to see several women in the first group of 14.
 
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Re: Starlux announces first flight date and routes

Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:04 am

patrickw421 wrote:
TC957 wrote:
Interesting choice of leisure routes, for what I understood from past threads on here about them, was going to be a business traveller target airline. MFM & DAD are already well served from ICN but they'll have the PEN route to themselves.


You might have confused with another thread about Air Premia base in Korea. Starlux is a Taiwanese airline that will fly from TPE.

Nonetheless those 3 destinations are interesting choice. MFM has huge competition from Air Macau/BR/tigerair Taiwan with each of them flying no less than 3 daily, while PEN currently has a daily CI flight and DAD is served by Far Eastern and Jetstar Vietnam, which means they will be competing with completely different airlines in different routes.

TPE-DAD will also get additional scheduled service on BR by the end of the year (from Dec 21)
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Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:56 am

I somehow missed this thread entirely!

juliuswong wrote:
Their first A321neo is now fully painted. What a stunner!
http://aeronauticsonline.com/starlux-ai ... ns-launch/


Looks very much like a bizjet livery. Kinda classy and understated. Now I'm dying to see the interiors' palette.

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Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:29 pm

LAXintl wrote:
IATA and ICAO assigned Starlux its code and callsign.

IATA = JX
ICAO = SJX
Callsign = Starwalker


Why Starwalker and not just Starlux?
 
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Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:29 am

UPlog wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
IATA and ICAO assigned Starlux its code and callsign.

IATA = JX
ICAO = SJX
Callsign = Starwalker


Why Starwalker and not just Starlux?


Based on the interview to PR of Starlux by reporter, he said the reason of callsign is from the movie ''Star Wars".

He said this is because KW Chang (CEO) hopes his airline can explore the world like "Skywalker" in the movie to explore entire universe.

Source: https://www.cna.com.tw/news/firstnews/201909210035.aspx (Article in Chinese)
 
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Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:43 pm

Looks like a pretty expensive head office facility. Not a good precedent for a commodity business where the goal has to be to keep fully allocated costs considerably lower than the competition.

Show. me a photo of the C suite office facilities and I’ll tell you if they’ll make it beyond 18 months.

What ever happened to starting small, becoming profitable and then growing? Hasn’t Norwegian taught anybody anything?

I sure hope the new shiny iron is crewed by pilots with more than a years flight training......
 
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Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:36 pm

Sam Chui has some new information and first pictures of the cabin design/seats by BMW, uniforms e.g.
First A321Neo will be delivered end of this month. Start of operation 23-Jan-2019.
https://samchui.com/2019/10/05/starlux-airlines-to-launch-flights-in-early-2020/#.XZn6ivkzZnI
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Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:10 pm

The want A330 neos??? -800s or -900s??
"K.W. Chang, Founder and Chairman of STARLUX, also indicates that the airline has the intention to buy Airbus A330neo’s."
 
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Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:27 pm

T4thH wrote:
Sam Chui has some new information and first pictures of the cabin design/seats by BMW, uniforms e.g.
First A321Neo will be delivered end of this month. Start of operation 23-Jan-2019.
https://samchui.com/2019/10/05/starlux-airlines-to-launch-flights-in-early-2020/#.XZn6ivkzZnI
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As far as the uniforms, I really like the simple, stylish, modern design.

So glad to see the guys don’t have to wear a tie and their suit jacket does not have a pocket square!
 
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Re: Starlux announces first flight date and routes

Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:36 pm

filipinoavgeek wrote:
Is the Taiwanese market big enough for three large full service carriers, though? Considering TransAsia went bye-bye a few years ago (though that was more of their own fault than due to the market).


GE had been around for 65 years, and it was two ATR crashes that did them in. I do believe that Taiwan can support 3 carriers...as Starlux is going to be regional first.
 
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Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:54 pm

aemoreira1981 wrote:
filipinoavgeek wrote:
Is the Taiwanese market big enough for three large full service carriers, though? Considering TransAsia went bye-bye a few years ago (though that was more of their own fault than due to the market).


GE had been around for 65 years, and it was two ATR crashes that did them in. I do believe that Taiwan can support 3 carriers...as Starlux is going to be regional first.


If I recall correctly, while the ATR crashes helped kill TransAsia, it was the launch (and subsequent failure) of V Air that really did them in. If it weren't for V Air, there was a chance that TransAsia would have survived even with the crashes.
 
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Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:35 pm

filipinoavgeek wrote:
aemoreira1981 wrote:
filipinoavgeek wrote:
Is the Taiwanese market big enough for three large full service carriers, though? Considering TransAsia went bye-bye a few years ago (though that was more of their own fault than due to the market).


GE had been around for 65 years, and it was two ATR crashes that did them in. I do believe that Taiwan can support 3 carriers...as Starlux is going to be regional first.


If I recall correctly, while the ATR crashes helped kill TransAsia, it was the launch (and subsequent failure) of V Air that really did them in. If it weren't for V Air, there was a chance that TransAsia would have survived even with the crashes.

Not really. The overexpansion of TransAsia mainline service by inducting A333ceo operation and purchase of A338neo combined with the two crashes and V Air introduction killed TransAsia. Their finance was stretched thin due to new aircraft purchase and new lease and compensation to crash victim. The public perception of TransAsia collapsed overnight after first crash. The second helped speed up their ultimate death. The news about their incompetent pilot was made known later worsened their PR.

OK, sorry for straying off course, back to the topic.
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Re: Starlux announces first flight date and routes

Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:35 pm

aemoreira1981 wrote:
filipinoavgeek wrote:
Is the Taiwanese market big enough for three large full service carriers, though? Considering TransAsia went bye-bye a few years ago (though that was more of their own fault than due to the market).

GE had been around for 65 years, and it was two ATR crashes that did them in. I do believe that Taiwan can support 3 carriers...as Starlux is going to be regional first.

1) With 24 million, Taiwan are nearly three times the size of the UAE (9,4 million, of which only 12% are Emiratis, Indians nearly 25%, see link below). https://www.globalmediainsight.com/blog ... tatistics/
Save to say that Taiwan have some 20 times more local O/D than the UAE, which have 3 big airlines, 2 FSCs & 1 LCC.
So if the UAE can do it, Taiwan all the more reason.

In addition,
2) There are way more Taiwanese business men than Emirati buzzmen, to sustain a third FSC.
3) Taiwan have immediate premium PAX all over East Asia ( but not China, they said they are flying to the PRC due to the current tensions )
Starlux should do fine.

Now, while straightforward marketing-wise, the name "Starlux" is cheap : luxury brands never advertize themselves that openly.
Plus it is too reminescent of those umpteen cheap Jetstars LCCs & electronic companies like LG ( Lucky Goldstar ).
Could have called themselves Goldfish Deluxe airlines for all I care, but with the additional chinese touch ;).
 
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Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:55 pm

I just got back last night from another TPE trip on EVA / BR premium economy. I haven't had a chance to try the ME3, but so far I haven't found an airline to offer close to what EVA does. Yes, the cabins really are the world's cleanest.

It's a tall hill to climb for Starlux, and I agree that it's hard to see Taiwan able to support a third airline. I would say one-quarter to one-third of EVA flyers are connecting to other locations in Southeast Asia, so this could be Starlux's calling card also. In which case, it makes sense to build the short haul routes up quickly.

The focus on premium could work out well for them. Like many supercharged post-emerging economies, Taiwan has a significant gap between wealth and poor. There is plenty of O&D demand for premium, but they must bring premium economy to their long-haul fleet. I'll be they go with an even larger premium economy than BR and CI. That would be my play.

What happened to their early plan to make Taichung the hub? That is curious, but could turn out to be genius.

Great to see some competition that might bring down premium economy fares to TPE. Seems like BR finally has some pricing power, as I haven't seen low-ish fares in the last 1-2 years even during the slowest months. Plus I have yet to try an A350.
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:04 pm

T4thH wrote:
Sam Chui has some new information and first pictures of the cabin design/seats by BMW, uniforms e.g.
First A321Neo will be delivered end of this month. Start of operation 23-Jan-2019.
https://samchui.com/2019/10/05/starlux-airlines-to-launch-flights-in-early-2020/#.XZn6ivkzZnI
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I really like the colours - hi-tech and elegant . Thumbs up for the uniforms as well!

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Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:52 pm

T4thH wrote:
Sam Chui has some new information and first pictures of the cabin design/seats by BMW, uniforms e.g.
First A321Neo will be delivered end of this month. Start of operation 23-Jan-2019.
https://samchui.com/2019/10/05/starlux-airlines-to-launch-flights-in-early-2020/#.XZn6ivkzZnI
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Isn't it 2020
And if that's the case, it would be right before the Oriental lunar new year...
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Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:23 pm

MRYApproach: but they must bring premium economy to their long-haul fleet. I'll be they go with an even larger premium economy than BR and CI. That would be my play.


MRYApproach, interestingly, EVA was the first airline to introduce premium economy. Then, it was called Evergreen Deluxe and there were more premium economy seats on their 747s than in economy. Surprisingly, just a small economy section in the rear of the aircraft. But there's been a shift and EVA now operates with fewer premium economy seats.
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:54 pm

c933103 wrote:
T4thH wrote:
Sam Chui has some new information and first pictures of the cabin design/seats by BMW, uniforms e.g.
First A321Neo will be delivered end of this month. Start of operation 23-Jan-2019.
https://samchui.com/2019/10/05/starlux-airlines-to-launch-flights-in-early-2020/#.XZn6ivkzZnI
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Isn't it 2020
And if that's the case, it would be right before the Oriental lunar new year...


Sorry, of course you are right Jan-2020.

The first A321Neo is now on the way home for the official party on 28-Oct-2019
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/picture-first-starlux-a321neo-departs-for-taiwan-461813/
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:42 am

Starlux released its first safety video

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Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:47 pm

I think it's ok but a bit cheap and not up to the classy brand just my immediate reaction - would have thought they would have gone someting less comic and more aesthetic but it ain't awful either and they will be looking to offer something distinctly different from EVA. Looks like this will be their ongoing style on safety.
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Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:18 am

Hi all,

So it seems EVA Air and China Airlines will get a new competition from Starlux Airlines starting January 2020. Based on the airline data, Starlux ordered 8 A321 and 17 A350. For a small country like taiwan and already served by 2 major airlines (EVA and China), I wonder if Starlux can really challange them, this will be interesting. What are you thoughts?
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Hi all,

So it seems EVA Air and China Airlines will get a new competition from Starlux Airlines starting January 2020. Based on the airline data, Starlux ordered 8 A321 and 17 A350. For a small country like taiwan and already served by 2 major airlines (EVA and China), I wonder if Starlux can really challange them, this will be interesting. What are you thoughts?

Starlux will be the 3rd full service airline in Taiwan (After EVA and China). Starlux will first operate the key routes from Taipei and will increased to 50 planes within few years time.
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Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:12 pm

Im skeptical that Taiwan can maintain 3 full-service airlines, what is their USP?
 
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Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:17 pm

Is the new terminal 3 enough to serve 3 full service airlines?

Do they have to build low cost t4 as previously planned but abandoned

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Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:39 pm

It looks like opening airlines is trending in the East Coast of Asia region now.
In Vietnam, ambitious newbie Bamboo is waiting for their first 2 B787-9s via GECAS with the plan of the 100-plane fleet in 2023.
In South Korea, newbie Air Premia is ordering B787-9 and the first flight will be launched next year.
And finally, as the title of this topic, Starlux with a handful number of A321n and A350 on orders.
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Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:29 pm

Starlux passes 50-hours of flight test in order to gain its AOC.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3826432
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Re: Starlux announces first flight date and routes

Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:59 am

https://money.udn.com/money/story/5612/4198103 (Chinede link)
Starlux said they might make an A330 order in mid-2020 for flying into other Asian countries' capital airport
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Re: Starlux announces first flight date and routes

Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:34 pm

Starlux application for the AOC has been approved by the Taiwan's Ministry of Transportation & Communication. The CAA will issue the certificate in due course.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/a ... 2003727348

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