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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Fri May 29, 2020 11:56 pm

n515cr wrote:
9217 and 9218 off to BYH today. 2 remain in service - 9225 and 9226.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n917dn
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n918dh


It is interesting that MD90's N909DA & N963DN were stuck in QRO awaiting heavy maintenance when the COVID-19 crisis struck. Will these simply remain at QRO for scrapping, or are they airworthy enough to make one last trip to BYH?

Another oddball is MD90 N910DN which apparently isn't at BYH, but is listed as "stored". Is it still sitting in ATL?

As for the MD88's, is Delta planning to have a big "squadron flight" of the final 24 to BYH on Tuesday?
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sat May 30, 2020 12:07 am

FLALEFTY wrote:
n515cr wrote:
9217 and 9218 off to BYH today. 2 remain in service - 9225 and 9226.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n917dn
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n918dh


It is interesting that MD90's N909DA & N963DN were stuck in QRO awaiting heavy maintenance when the COVID-19 crisis struck. Will these simply remain at QRO for scrapping, or are they airworthy enough to make one last trip to BYH?

Another oddball is MD90 N910DN which apparently isn't at BYH, but is listed as "stored". Is it still sitting in ATL?

As for the MD88's, is Delta planning to have a big "squadron flight" of the final 24 to BYH on Tuesday?


9210 went on to MZJ, according to FR24: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n910dn

Not sure about the two in QRO
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sat May 30, 2020 12:42 am

The end of Delta jets ordered directly from Douglas/McDonnell Douglas after 80 years!
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sat May 30, 2020 1:42 am

Gyrfalcon wrote:
miguel0881 wrote:

Edited to add: As someone noted on another site, this appears to be the last regularly scheduled passenger flight of any McDonnell Douglas aircraft in the United States. So really a pretty big deal.


No love for the MD-95s then...


Yeah, not the same. Made in Dallas, not Long Beach.

Now that's settled, will we see you on Tuesday?
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sat May 30, 2020 1:49 am

I was on one yesterday SRQ-ATL. Nice steep climb (about 2800 fpm) and we touched FL360 for a minute (we had filed for 370) before heading back down to 340. I can't recall ever going above 350 on an 88 so that was a first.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sat May 30, 2020 2:06 am

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Still showing seats for sale on DL88 as of this morning. Surprised there is not more interest in this. AA80 sold out well in advance.


DL must have opened up seats they were holding back for VIPs/employees or something. I posted this further upthread, but I tried buying a seat when the flight was first announced but on Delta.com seats in all fare categories were shown as sold out.
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sat May 30, 2020 2:06 am

deltairlines wrote:
I was on one yesterday SRQ-ATL.


...and I watched the takeoff roll !
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sat May 30, 2020 2:08 am

miguel0881 wrote:
Gyrfalcon wrote:
miguel0881 wrote:


No love for the MD-95s then...


Yeah, not the same. Made in Dallas, not Long Beach.



Every MD-95/Boeing 717 was manufactured in Long Beach. Not understanding your comment.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sat May 30, 2020 2:27 am

727LOVER wrote:
The end of Delta jets ordered directly from Douglas/McDonnell Douglas after 80 years!
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Douglas Aircraft I hope you mean... Delta Jets in 1940 would be complicated to explain...

And yes Delta has flown every model Douglas jet and most of the props... Sad end to such a long history.

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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sat May 30, 2020 2:55 am

mga707 wrote:
miguel0881 wrote:
Gyrfalcon wrote:

Yeah, not the same. Made in Dallas, not Long Beach.



Every MD-95/Boeing 717 was manufactured in Long Beach. Not understanding your comment.


You're right, my mistake. For some reason, I thought the production facility moved. Still a Boeing aircraft though.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sat May 30, 2020 6:49 am

You're on to something, actually:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm ... story.html

I didn't know that myself.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sat May 30, 2020 1:33 pm

miguel0881 wrote:
Gyrfalcon wrote:
miguel0881 wrote:

Edited to add: As someone noted on another site, this appears to be the last regularly scheduled passenger flight of any McDonnell Douglas aircraft in the United States. So really a pretty big deal.


No love for the MD-95s then...


Yeah, not the same. Made in Dallas, not Long Beach.

Now that's settled, will we see you on Tuesday?


Dallas?
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sat May 30, 2020 5:51 pm

ryanov wrote:
You're on to something, actually:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm ... story.html

I didn't know that myself.


Yes, that must have been what I remembered!
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sat May 30, 2020 9:03 pm

miguel0881 wrote:
Gyrfalcon wrote:
miguel0881 wrote:

Edited to add: As someone noted on another site, this appears to be the last regularly scheduled passenger flight of any McDonnell Douglas aircraft in the United States. So really a pretty big deal.


No love for the MD-95s then...


Yeah, not the same. Made in Dallas, not Long Beach.

Now that's settled, will we see you on Tuesday?


My day job involves flying DC-10s so I'll say that combined with sufficient passenger time on AA and DL MD-80s as "good enough". I feel like the Long Beach employees might be sad to hear your thoughts on the MD-95 however.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sun May 31, 2020 7:03 am

I know these things can change, but it appears as if the final MD-88 flight will be operated by N900DE. Is there any reason that aircraft is special, or are they just operating with whatever?
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sun May 31, 2020 1:36 pm

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I know these things can change, but it appears as if the final MD-88 flight will be operated by N900DE. Is there any reason that aircraft is special, or are they just operating with whatever?


As far as I know it was the 100th MD-88 delivered to DL, but I don't think that this is the reason why it will fly the last flight. Just some scheduling reasons
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sun May 31, 2020 2:42 pm

The ferry flights to BYH are now starting to show up. Note that some of the final ferry flights are from outstations and not all from ATL.

https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KBYH/enroute

Monday had 8; 7 MD88 and 1 MD90
Tuesday had 7 loaded so far.

I believe the final ferry flights out of ATL will be on Wednesday.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sun May 31, 2020 6:39 pm

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
The ferry flights to BYH are now starting to show up. Note that some of the final ferry flights are from outstations and not all from ATL.

https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KBYH/enroute

Monday had 8; 7 MD88 and 1 MD90
Tuesday had 7 loaded so far.

I believe the final ferry flights out of ATL will be on Wednesday.

Yep Delta is keeping one overnight. Wonder what they’ll do.
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sun May 31, 2020 6:50 pm

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
The ferry flights to BYH are now starting to show up. Note that some of the final ferry flights are from outstations and not all from ATL.

https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KBYH/enroute

Monday had 8; 7 MD88 and 1 MD90
Tuesday had 7 loaded so far.

I believe the final ferry flights out of ATL will be on Wednesday.


As 9226 will be ferried, will 9225 perform the last MD-90 flight then?
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sun May 31, 2020 6:52 pm

Delta350 wrote:
PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
The ferry flights to BYH are now starting to show up. Note that some of the final ferry flights are from outstations and not all from ATL.

https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KBYH/enroute

Monday had 8; 7 MD88 and 1 MD90
Tuesday had 7 loaded so far.

I believe the final ferry flights out of ATL will be on Wednesday.

Yep Delta is keeping one overnight. Wonder what they’ll do.


Any chance one goes to the Museum?
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sun May 31, 2020 9:36 pm

What's with flights 3297 and 3298? Not in the 99XX series?
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Sun May 31, 2020 11:10 pm

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
The ferry flights to BYH are now starting to show up. Note that some of the final ferry flights are from outstations and not all from ATL.

https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KBYH/enroute

Monday had 8; 7 MD88 and 1 MD90
Tuesday had 7 loaded so far.

I believe the final ferry flights out of ATL will be on Wednesday.


And on Tuesday there's a CR2 going to pick up the crews, from what I've heard.
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:41 am

There is one scheduled already for Monday afternoon.

That's kind of a sad way to wrap up.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:55 am

There is currently 1 final ferry out of ATL planned for Wed. Otherwise the M88's flying into ATL Tue AM on their final revenue flights will then turn and depart for Blytheville - except one.

DiamondFlyer wrote:
PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
The ferry flights to BYH are now starting to show up. Note that some of the final ferry flights are from outstations and not all from ATL.

https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KBYH/enroute

Monday had 8; 7 MD88 and 1 MD90
Tuesday had 7 loaded so far.

I believe the final ferry flights out of ATL will be on Wednesday.


And on Tuesday there's a CR2 going to pick up the crews, from what I've heard.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:06 am

Flew on 912DL, 910DE, 908DE, and 717JL today. 912 is a 32 year old -88 and she is definitely ready to be put to bed. One of the spoiler panels on the right wing doesn't deploy, the rear door squeals during climb out and descent, and some window panels are held in with tape. But it was such a thrill to fly on such an old girl. She had that fumey MD-80 smell that permeates the cabin during taxi and she took off like a rocket. I can't imagine how many people she has flown throughout the years. I'm going to miss these old smokey birds.

Every MD-80 flight I was on was the crew's last flight on an MD-80. Some would fly to the outstation only to ride as a passenger on the return trip. It is definitely the end of an era.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:50 pm

Goodbye Delta MD-88 !!!!! :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:























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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:13 pm

I was a ramp agent at PWM 20 years ago when the -88 was the only plane DL flew to our station. I think I've probably loaded and serviced every one of the MD-88 at one point, and flown on many, too. Tomorrow will be a sad day. There will no longer be any of the classic jets I grew up with. Just 737, A320s, and Rjs for the most part. I don't even enjoying spotting anymore.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:22 pm

how many are scrapped already ?
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:30 pm

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how many are scrapped already ?


Surprisingly, not that many: 29 scrapped, 4 written off, to date.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:37 pm

Its going to be strange being at ATL without the sound of whining JT8Ds taxiing around the ramp.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:45 pm

Gonna miss the mad-dog, very quite rides upfront.

The economics of keeping the line is simply not there for DL.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:16 pm

Goodbye Delta MD-90 ! :wave:



























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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:20 pm

Any vintage interior photos out there of the MD88 and MD90s over time?
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:31 pm

 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:37 pm

Thank you 727lover for all the great photos. This is about the worst time in my life. COVID-19 has taken my favorite aircraft and my job. At least I have photos to look at for the aircraft part.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:36 pm

Nearly or every frame is at Concourse A right now. Was looking for 9006, my first ride. Went to BYH this afternoon.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:17 am

Flight DL1995 operated by M90 / Registration N925DN will be making her final landing tonight at IAH around 832pm central time. IAH will probably never see another M90 land here. Ship 9225 will head back to ATL tomorrow morning as flight DL90 and sadly that will be her final revenue flight. The only M90 I flew on was N919DN on 15 December 2019 from ATL to IAH. I was fortunate enough to be seated in first class, but I can remember the passengers filing past me and I was thinking to myself “where are all of these people going to sit on this plane?” The only thing I didn’t like was no PTV. Godspeed to the Delta M90. You’ve served your passengers and crews well.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:51 am

I'll miss the air stairs under the tail. That was one thing I loved about the 727 as well.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:53 am

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I'll miss the air stairs under the tail. That was one thing I loved about the 727 as well.


Does 717 have this?
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:54 am

No. I was on the first 717 AirTran got and immediately walked to the back (I was at ASA on C Concourse and she was sitting on the end of C). That new plane smell was wonderful.
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:57 am

So what is your airport's final RON tonight....and is it sold out tomorrow morning?

SRQ has N917DL...and YES, it's sold out tomorrow.
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:02 am

lx2iah wrote:
IAH will probably never see another M90 land here.


Yeah, because there's no more MD-90 operators after Delta?
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:18 am

Well, end of an era and unfortunately due to the state of the industry/world unable to get the send-off they deserve.
I know many of us planned to get in some more MD88 flight in 2020 and MD90s as well that still up until about 80 days ago were likely to be around a few more years.

123 DL MD-88 flights over the years for me. Being in DTW, I only flew DL occasionally up until the merger, so my first DL MD-88 flight was in 2006. At the time MD80 series flights were a dime-a-dozen with so much MD-80 flying between AA and DL it wasn't anything interesting at the time. Once the merger with NW, the MD-88s started showing up in DTW and my flying on the type increased significantly. Routes from DTW including BDL, BWI, DCA, PHL, BOS, STL, of course ATL. Then last year I was flying near weekly through ATL and 1-2 MD88 flights weekly. I was on 53 MD-88 flights in 2019 alone, and I didn't realize it but my last MD-88 flight was almost a year ago to the day on ICT-ATL.

27 MD-90 flights in the books for me. First one was in 2011 after DL grew the fleet and started putting them into DTW. My flights on them were almost entirely limited to DTW-DEN, MSP, & ATL, with a few BWI, PHL, and IND in the mix. I never really had strong feelings for this type other than the exotic factor. From a passenger comfort perspective it was very meh. Plus I think it was the slowest aircraft to board, and was awful for bin space on business heavy flights. My final flight on this type was Feb 2019 on ATL-DTW.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:28 am

Just wanting to clarify - there's only 1 active MD-90 left, right? N925DN?

N926DH was the second to last?
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:32 am

I'm on DL88 in the morning. Amazingly, there are still seats for sale. A sign of the times I guess. Now that we're down to the wire, anyone know if IAD, ATL, and/or DL have anything special in store?
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:51 am

...717 (MD95) does not have the aft stairs.
 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:52 am

lx2iah wrote:
Flight DL1995 operated by M90 / Registration N925DN will be making her final landing tonight at IAH around 832pm central time. IAH will probably never see another M90 land here. Ship 9225 will head back to ATL tomorrow morning as flight DL90 and sadly that will be her final revenue flight. The only M90 I flew on was N919DN on 15 December 2019 from ATL to IAH. I was fortunate enough to be seated in first class, but I can remember the passengers filing past me and I was thinking to myself “where are all of these people going to sit on this plane?” The only thing I didn’t like was no PTV. Godspeed to the Delta M90. You’ve served your passengers and crews well.


A pity the MD-90 (and the 717s) never got the PTVs.

Another fleet type from my childhood gone. A staple DL fleet type into TPA in the 90's to a few years ago prior to the arrival of the 739s and 321s. The MD-90's didn't show up in TPA until the early 2000s serving DFW towards the end of its hub life. With DL's post-merger fleet expansion, it then became a staple type in the 2010's, seeing frequent off-season usage to ATL, MSP, and DTW, with usage displaced by the 739s and 321s.

 
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:56 am

I'm finding myself wishing I had tried to book one of the last flights even though I had approximately 630 Mad Dog flights over the years. I have certainly experienced them pretty thoroughly, but being a part of this last send-off, muted as it is, would have been cool.

My first ride was either a Delta Widget or a Continental Saul Bass - wish I'd kept better records back then. I ended up flying on quite a few other Delta and Continental birds in all their liveries, but the bulk of that 630 was on American's silver fleet in and out of Dallas. I managed to fly almost 70% of all the ones AA ever had. Top Dogs with 6 flights each - N564AA and N972TW. I got 2 MD-87 flights on Aeromexico. My last MD-88 flight was on N975DL in 2018, and my last ever Mad Dog now looks like it was MD-90 N936DN about a year ago. Although I suppose it's likely I'll still manage some 717 rides in the not-too-distant future, the full MD experience is now behind me.

I'm gonna miss the comfort of the 2-seat side (A220 here I come), the quiet ride up front (even as I savored the JT8D whine), and the sturdy feel of a Douglas. Missing seatback PTV's never bothered me - if I had to say anything negative it would be the lack of modern power outlets.

Anyway, I think the skies will be a less interesting place from now on. Rest in peace, old friends.
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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:00 am

Wow. The end of an era. I’ve been on many MD-88 flights over the years but only 2 MD-90s... thankful now that I got on them!

My first DL M88 flight was DL585, MCO-MSY in June 1994. Outbound to MCO was a 72S. I remember the pilot making a very long announcement about how new and efficient the airplane was. Dad videoed the departure and landing. The interior had alternating blue and red seats in Y. Funny thing, I remember I was bummed we didn’t take the earlier flight around 1130 since it was a 757 but when you’re 15 and are just going along for the ride, you don’t get a lot of say.

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Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:04 am

25E was always my go-to seat on the MD-88. Loved the exit row window seat with tons of leg room, and far back enough to hear the noise of the engines, but not too much like being in the last few rows. I would rather be there than in C+, but of course didn't mind when the upgrade cleared to F. Granted, on peak business travel time flights that was rare even as a Platinum, but I did enjoy my share my rides up front on the MD88.

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Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos