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kearnet
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What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:02 am

I’m at PHX picking up my roommates coming in on DE 2026, came up to the parking garage to watch them land and noticed several flight break off their approach. As weather is decent except for a small cell to the southwest of the field, visibility is fine winds don’t seem to be a factor.

I pulled up flight aware and saw there are quite a few flights in holding patterns including my room mates and the flights who broke off their approaches.

No ones landed in about 30 + mins.
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Re: What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:10 am

General Departure Delays: Due to WX:Wind, traffic is experiencing Gate Hold and Taxi delays between 31 minutes and 45 minutes in length and increasing.
General Arrival Delays: Arrival traffic is experiencing airborne delays of 15 minutes or less.


https://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/usmap.jsp
 
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Re: What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:11 am

Beat me to it.
 
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Re: What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:12 am

KPHX 170151Z 17018G32KT 8SM SCT075 SCT150 BKN210 BKN250 29/16 A2981 RMK AO2 PK WND 20036/0135 LTG DSNT SW SLP075 CB DSNT S-SW AND W SHRA DSNT SW T02940156

Gusty crosswind. Probably a windshear issue.
 
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Re: What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:12 am

Active weather is showing 32KT gusts and distant lightning. If there was a change in wind direction, that would change runways and cause everyone to reposition. I'm sure we'll hear from others momentarily.
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Re: What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:14 am

Based on the current FlightAware track and altitude it looks like DE2026 is diverting to KLAS after holding.
 
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Re: What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:17 am

jetskipper wrote:
Based on the current FlightAware track and altitude it looks like DE2026 is diverting to KLAS after holding.


After holding and the divert that is going to over 12.5 hours in the air on a 767-300.
 
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Re: What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:18 am

Yeah, there's weather coming through here tonight. I'm sure it's related to winds.
 
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Re: What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:20 am

jetskipper wrote:
jetskipper wrote:
Based on the current FlightAware track and altitude it looks like DE2026 is diverting to KLAS after holding.


After holding and the divert that is going to over 12.5 hours in the air on a 767-300.


Ya I just saw that. My roommates are cranky fliers on domestic flights, I’m not gonna have good time when they get here after what I’m estimating to be 15 hours of flying in one day. Of course the crew is probably gonna time out too..... oooooh boy.
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Re: What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:20 am

jetskipper wrote:
jetskipper wrote:
Based on the current FlightAware track and altitude it looks like DE2026 is diverting to KLAS after holding.


After holding and the divert that is going to over 12.5 hours in the air on a 767-300.


I flew STL-PHX a few months ago. PHX was getting hit by a dust storm so we held at the AZ/NM state line for a couple rounds. We ended up diverting to ONT to refuel and get a new crew. A three hour flight turned into a six hour flight.
 
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Re: What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:47 am

Hey, maybe they can spend the night in Vegas, 'cause there ain't gonna be no Condor crew around to sub in. Tell them not to spend all their money on gambling and dancing girls.
 
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Re: What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:56 am

wjcandee wrote:
Hey, maybe they can spend the night in Vegas, 'cause there ain't gonna be no Condor crew around to sub in. Tell them not to spend all their money on gambling and dancing girls.


They could Deadhead the crew that is scheduled to fly the return PHX-FRA on AA or WN to LAS to operate the return to flight to PHX, probably cheaper than buying hotel rooms for the entire aircraft. Either way tonight’s PHX-FRA will be significantly delayed, most likely into tomorrow.
 
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Re: What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:52 am

Jetskipper, well of course you're right. I was just thinking a night in Vegas might be a nice diversion.

[Just heard it.]
 
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Re: What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:09 am

jetskipper wrote:
wjcandee wrote:
Hey, maybe they can spend the night in Vegas, 'cause there ain't gonna be no Condor crew around to sub in. Tell them not to spend all their money on gambling and dancing girls.


They could Deadhead the crew that is scheduled to fly the return PHX-FRA on AA or WN to LAS to operate the return to flight to PHX, probably cheaper than buying hotel rooms for the entire aircraft. Either way tonight’s PHX-FRA will be significantly delayed, most likely into tomorrow.


I think that’s what they did as they just fuel up and are on their way now and the outbound flight is still on just with a delay.
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Re: What on earth is going on at PHX tonight 9/16/19???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:12 am

Looks like Condor is now scheduled for a 9:30pm arrival into Phoenix.
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