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Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:09 pm

Qantas is doing a special one way one-off 744 retirement flight QF99 for VH-OJU from SYD-LAX that would then ferry empty from LAX to VCV to its final resting place. The flight is open for booking at the (shockingly) low fare of $499 if anyone is interested. Schedule below:

QF099 SYD1700 – 1250LAX 744

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -oct-2019/
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:33 pm

sonicruiser wrote:
that would then ferry empty from LAX to VCV to its final resting place.


Luckily for OJU, unlike her recent sisters, VCV won't be her final resting place and she has another carrier, and a very interesting one at that, in her next chapter in life after she gets several modifications done.
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:36 pm

Seems to me to be a sensible way to make a bit of revenue for retiring VCV or MHV bound aircraft. They usually clear customs at LAX so why not take passengers for the one-off ride ? Appreciate though that some airlines may strip out interiors before sending the frames off.
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:46 pm

She's also the last non -ER 744 in the fleet. With this retirement, only the 6 744ERs remain.
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:56 pm

Who is her next carrier?
 
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Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:32 pm

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Who is her next carrier?

Coke

This is also the retirement of the Rolls Royce RB211 engine from Qantas' fleet. QF used to have a major engine shop for RR in SYD which is being closed.
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:47 pm

cruiseshipcrew wrote:
Luckily for OJU, unlike her recent sisters, VCV won't be her final resting place and she has another carrier, and a very interesting one at that, in her next chapter in life after she gets several modifications done.

Now I'm intrigued. I can only find references to "new undisclosed operator" in news reporting.
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:08 pm

tullamarine wrote:
Coke


As in Coca-Cola? What do they need a 747 for?
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:19 pm

sonicruiser wrote:
tullamarine wrote:
Coke


As in Coca-Cola? What do they need a 747 for?


..........to make cans.......
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:14 pm

cruiseshipcrew wrote:
sonicruiser wrote:
that would then ferry empty from LAX to VCV to its final resting place.


Luckily for OJU, unlike her recent sisters, VCV won't be her final resting place and she has another carrier, and a very interesting one at that, in her next chapter in life after she gets several modifications done.

Well this is getting interesting..... It'll be one of the few ex-QF RR-engined 744 that makes it out of the desert if this comes true.

Anyone has any clue on who's the next operator?

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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:51 pm

WestJet....kidding.
 
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Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:43 am

PhilMcCrackin wrote:
She's also the last non -ER 744 in the fleet. With this retirement, only the 6 744ERs remain.


Interesting! Considering the ERs are much newer - when would their next heavy check be? Is there any fuel savings of the GEs vs the RRs that could help keep the ERs in the fleet longer? Or was the only mod related to extending the range via ranks, not efficiency’s?
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:59 am

The later ER's have recently undergone heavy checks in HKG.
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:41 am

adamblang wrote:
cruiseshipcrew wrote:
Luckily for OJU, unlike her recent sisters, VCV won't be her final resting place and she has another carrier, and a very interesting one at that, in her next chapter in life after she gets several modifications done.

Now I'm intrigued. I can only find references to "new undisclosed operator" in news reporting.


Can we get a better explanation other than nuisance replies and vague “I know more than you do” type replies?
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:08 am

cpd wrote:
adamblang wrote:
cruiseshipcrew wrote:
Luckily for OJU, unlike her recent sisters, VCV won't be her final resting place and she has another carrier, and a very interesting one at that, in her next chapter in life after she gets several modifications done.

Now I'm intrigued. I can only find references to "new undisclosed operator" in news reporting.


Can we get a better explanation other than nuisance replies and vague “I know more than you do” type replies?


Obviously, cruiseshipcrew knows more than she/he is letting on, but, equally obviously, and for whatever reason, she/he is unable to disclose details in a public forum.

But there are tantalising clues in the original post, “gets several modifications done” suggests more extensive modifications than would normally be undertaken when a passenger aircraft is simply sold from one carrier to another. It could mean freighter conversion, but the conversation of an airliner to a freighter at the end of its passenger-carrying life is commonplace, so hardly warrants secrecy.

I was thinking perhaps she had been sold to NASA or something like that, but the use of the word “carrier” would seem to dismiss that idea.

We shall have to wait and see!
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:34 am

smi0006 wrote:
PhilMcCrackin wrote:
She's also the last non -ER 744 in the fleet. With this retirement, only the 6 744ERs remain.


Interesting! Considering the ERs are much newer - when would their next heavy check be? Is there any fuel savings of the GEs vs the RRs that could help keep the ERs in the fleet longer? Or was the only mod related to extending the range via ranks, not efficiency’s?


I don't think there was any increased efficiency. The 744ER has strengthened landing gear and some internal structures which allows it to carry extra fuel in an additional tank in the forward cargo hold as well as the stabilizer tanks. This was of importance to QF as they could finally fly fully loaded LAX-SYD/MEL, which the regular 744s weren't fully capable of.
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:35 am

PhilMcCrackin wrote:
smi0006 wrote:
PhilMcCrackin wrote:
She's also the last non -ER 744 in the fleet. With this retirement, only the 6 744ERs remain.


Interesting! Considering the ERs are much newer - when would their next heavy check be? Is there any fuel savings of the GEs vs the RRs that could help keep the ERs in the fleet longer? Or was the only mod related to extending the range via ranks, not efficiency’s?


I don't think there was any increased efficiency. The 744ER has strengthened landing gear and some internal structures which allows it to carry extra fuel in an additional tank in the forward cargo hold as well as the stabilizer tanks. This was of importance to QF as they could finally fly fully loaded LAX-SYD/MEL, which the regular 744s weren't fully capable of.


I didn’t know about the fuel tank in the forward hold - great insight thank you. I do recall the importance for MEL-LAX especially in competing with UA at the time, the only competitor on the Pacific at the time.

Hopefully we see them stay a while longer for JNB and also see a bit more domestic use as they live out their lives - they are great recovery in storm situations between SYD-MEL.
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:33 pm

Flew on "Sydney" from Sydney to Haneda on August 16th, nothing like arriving at Haneda at 5 am. Sad that was probably my last Qantas 744 ride, the 744ER they have some unique features like 777 vents and overhead bins. Sad Qantas doesn't fly then until they are 20 years old, why not keep fly almost fully paid for planes. They are great for Santiago and Johannesburg. Those 6 744ER will probably have futures a cargo Jumbos.
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:17 pm

eagles94 wrote:
sonicruiser wrote:
tullamarine wrote:
Coke


As in Coca-Cola? What do they need a 747 for?


..........to make cans.......


:spit: This made my morning
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:40 pm

vhtje wrote:
cpd wrote:
adamblang wrote:
Now I'm intrigued. I can only find references to "new undisclosed operator" in news reporting.


Can we get a better explanation other than nuisance replies and vague “I know more than you do” type replies?


Obviously, cruiseshipcrew knows more than she/he is letting on, but, equally obviously, and for whatever reason, she/he is unable to disclose details in a public forum.

But there are tantalising clues in the original post, “gets several modifications done” suggests more extensive modifications than would normally be undertaken when a passenger aircraft is simply sold from one carrier to another. It could mean freighter conversion, but the conversation of an airliner to a freighter at the end of its passenger-carrying life is commonplace, so hardly warrants secrecy.

I was thinking perhaps she had been sold to NASA or something like that, but the use of the word “carrier” would seem to dismiss that idea.

We shall have to wait and see!


Conversion to a super tanker for forest fires perhaps?
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:42 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Flew on "Sydney" from Sydney to Haneda on August 16th, nothing like arriving at Haneda at 5 am. Sad that was probably my last Qantas 744 ride, the 744ER they have some unique features like 777 vents and overhead bins. Sad Qantas doesn't fly then until they are 20 years old, why not keep fly almost fully paid for planes. They are great for Santiago and Johannesburg. Those 6 744ER will probably have futures a cargo Jumbos.


QF does keep their planes 20 years, or more. The 747-400ER was delivered in 2002, so we are at about 17 years, currently.

And yes, they are already paid for at this point.
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:42 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Flew on "Sydney" from Sydney to Haneda on August 16th, nothing like arriving at Haneda at 5 am. Sad that was probably my last Qantas 744 ride, the 744ER they have some unique features like 777 vents and overhead bins. Sad Qantas doesn't fly then until they are 20 years old, why not keep fly almost fully paid for planes. They are great for Santiago and Johannesburg. Those 6 744ER will probably have futures a cargo Jumbos.


QF does keep their planes 20 years, or more. The 747-400ER was delivered in 2002, so we are at about 17 years, currently.

And yes, they are already paid for at this point.
Whatever
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:59 am

Is any of the galley equipment going to be removed at LAX?
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:00 am

Is any of the galley equipment going to be removed at LAX?
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:36 am

That $499 one way fare isn't that shocking when you consider that LAX roundtrip fares can now often be had for sub $900.
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:45 pm

Whatever this airplane's next life is, I trust that cruiseshipcrew knows more about it than anyone else on this board. He regularly goes through the VCV aircraft boneyard for his side hustle. James' Instagram posts from there are fascinating to see.
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:27 am

VH-OJU is now en-route to LAX.
 
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Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:54 am

OJU’s next stop after LAX will be MWH


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Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:45 pm

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OJU’s next stop after LAX will be MWH


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Doesn’t make sense MHV... The OP mentioned VCV which is where the rest of the fleet is at.. May I ask how you know it’s MHV?

I know it’s early but does anyone know if it will be arriving on the South or North side? Water salute?
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:29 pm

Anyone know when it'll be leaving LAX?
 
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Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:33 pm

crownvic wrote:
EK413 wrote:
OJU’s next stop after LAX will be MWH


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Doesn’t make sense MHV... The OP mentioned VCV which is where the rest of the fleet is at.. May I ask how you know it’s MHV?

I know it’s early but does anyone know if it will be arriving on the South or North side? Water salute?


Landed on the south side, went to a remote gate.
 
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:07 pm

vhtje wrote:
cpd wrote:
adamblang wrote:
Now I'm intrigued. I can only find references to "new undisclosed operator" in news reporting.


Can we get a better explanation other than nuisance replies and vague “I know more than you do” type replies?


Obviously, cruiseshipcrew knows more than she/he is letting on, but, equally obviously, and for whatever reason, she/he is unable to disclose details in a public forum.

But there are tantalising clues in the original post, “gets several modifications done” suggests more extensive modifications than would normally be undertaken when a passenger aircraft is simply sold from one carrier to another. It could mean freighter conversion, but the conversation of an airliner to a freighter at the end of its passenger-carrying life is commonplace, so hardly warrants secrecy.

I was thinking perhaps she had been sold to NASA or something like that, but the use of the word “carrier” would seem to dismiss that idea.

We shall have to wait and see!


Probably another firefighting jet. The current one has been put to good use so far.
 
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Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:08 pm

I thought i read somewhere that it was going to Atlas. I wonder what truth there is in that.
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:17 pm

I read on a Facebook group that it's going to Rolls Royce to be their new testbed! Would be a logical replacement for their 742. If so, that would be just about the best possible outcome for OJU
 
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Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:20 pm

She's young as far as 744s go. I'd hope she'd be able to find a second life somewhere.
 
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Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:32 pm

crownvic wrote:
EK413 wrote:
OJU’s next stop after LAX will be MWH


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Doesn’t make sense MHV... The OP mentioned VCV which is where the rest of the fleet is at.. May I ask how you know it’s MHV?

I know it’s early but does anyone know if it will be arriving on the South or North side? Water salute?


Who said anything about MHV? I said MWH.


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Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:29 pm

EK413 wrote:
crownvic wrote:
EK413 wrote:
OJU’s next stop after LAX will be MWH


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Doesn’t make sense MHV... The OP mentioned VCV which is where the rest of the fleet is at.. May I ask how you know it’s MHV?

I know it’s early but does anyone know if it will be arriving on the South or North side? Water salute?


Who said anything about MHV? I said MWH.


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ooops....my bad...apologies read it too fast.
 
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Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:23 am

A333MSPtoAMS wrote:
I thought i read somewhere that it was going to Atlas. I wonder what truth there is in that.

I think you are maybe thinking of a 748 recently delivered which is operating for Qantas but is Atlas?

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... ght-fleet/
 
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Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:05 am

Newark727 wrote:
Anyone know when it'll be leaving LAX?


Heard -OJU is scheduled to depart LAX 15/10 10:00 local with ETA 12:40 MWH.


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Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:47 pm

EK413 wrote:
Heard -OJU is scheduled to depart LAX 15/10 10:00 local with ETA 12:40 MWH.


Thanks! Too bad it doesn't really fit my schedule to go see it.
 
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Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:40 pm

cruiseshipcrew wrote:
sonicruiser wrote:
that would then ferry empty from LAX to VCV to its final resting place.


Luckily for OJU, unlike her recent sisters, VCV won't be her final resting place and she has another carrier, and a very interesting one at that, in her next chapter in life after she gets several modifications done.


I'm going to go with cruise ship charter flights or shes being heavily modified to be part of the cruiseship... :biggrin:
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Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:31 pm

GlobalAirways wrote:
cruiseshipcrew wrote:
sonicruiser wrote:
that would then ferry empty from LAX to VCV to its final resting place.


Luckily for OJU, unlike her recent sisters, VCV won't be her final resting place and she has another carrier, and a very interesting one at that, in her next chapter in life after she gets several modifications done.


I'm going to go with cruise ship charter flights or shes being heavily modified to be part of the cruiseship... :biggrin:



-OJU is currently undergoing the exit process before beginning a new life as a Rolls-Royce engine testbed aircraft.


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Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:41 pm

EK413 wrote:
OJU’s next stop after LAX will be MWH


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Indeed MWH

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... u#227c737a
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:10 pm

eagles94 wrote:
sonicruiser wrote:
tullamarine wrote:
Coke


As in Coca-Cola? What do they need a 747 for?


..........to make cans.......


This is amazing.
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Re: Qantas one way one-off 744 SYD-LAX 13OCT19

Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:11 pm

cruiseshipcrew wrote:
sonicruiser wrote:
that would then ferry empty from LAX to VCV to its final resting place.


Luckily for OJU, unlike her recent sisters, VCV won't be her final resting place and she has another carrier, and a very interesting one at that, in her next chapter in life after she gets several modifications done.



So getting converted to a freighter? Or is there something else going on with this?

Just found the answer. See the post below..
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:19 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
cruiseshipcrew wrote:
sonicruiser wrote:
that would then ferry empty from LAX to VCV to its final resting place.


Luckily for OJU, unlike her recent sisters, VCV won't be her final resting place and she has another carrier, and a very interesting one at that, in her next chapter in life after she gets several modifications done.


It will be the next engine testbed for RR :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup: ...

https://simpleflying.com/qantas-delivers-vh-oju-rolls-royce/

Enjoy the nice read..

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