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OAG Changes 9/22/2019:Big F9 Changes (?);HU Exits LAS-PEK

Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:26 pm

FAQ

AS OF JULY 2018 THERE ARE CHANGES TO THE FORMAT OF THIS REPORT...SEE BELOW

WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares departures for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...prior year departures are now shown in brackets e.g. [0].

THE SCHEDULES SHOWN HERE CHANGE AFTER YOU POST???
-To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often---Winston Churchill. This is data the carriers filed at the point in time it was captured. It's changed since then. You are just going to have to live with it.

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5[4] JAN 4>5[4]
XXX Departure IATA code, YYY Arrival IATA code, Month, Average Departures/Day over the month for sale as of last week, Average Departures/Day over the month for sale as of this week, in brackets is the number of Average Departures/Day over the month that were scheduled one year earlier. So, it means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. It also means that there were 4 roundtrips the prior year in each month. No other months were changed. I average two directions.

WHAT ABOUT CARRIERS THAT DON'T PUBLISH A SCHEDULE 9 MONTHS IN ADVANCE?
NEW CHANGE-Sometimes airlines do not load their schedules for the entire 330 day standard sales window. Southwest and many LCCs load their schedules for as little as 5 months into the future. When these flight are extended into a new sales month, it becomes a "schedule change". Previously, I have manually deleted these in many cases and replaced them with a Year-Over-Year compare. Effective immediately, this will now change. When a flight is loaded from 0 departures X departures, where X was the same the prior year, the record will not be shown. For example, if Delta loaded ATL-EGE MAR 0>1(1), it would not be shown because this additional flight does not represent a real year-over-year addition. Similarly, if B6 extended their schedule a record like this ATL-BOS JUL 0>4(4) would not be shown. It will be shown if the flight frequency changed from the prior year. So B6 ATL-BOS JUL 0>3(4) would be shown. If a partial month was loaded in a core schedule that became a full schedule month, those changes may be shown under this logic. For example, WN BNA-SEA 0.3>2(2). Because only a fraction of the month was previously loaded for sale, these changes will not be filtered out. I may, however, manually remove them to declutter.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month. The following criteria are used to show a change: 1) The change must be at least 6 roundtrips per month with no exceptions, 2) changes of at least 6/week are always shown, 3) routes that are added or dropped are shown subject to the change minimum, and 4) in all other cases routes must change by 20% to be shown. For example, if a route changed from 21/week to 18/week it would not be shown because the change is -14.3%. This is done to filter minor changes that occur in large numbers.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Flights that do not operate every day of the month create fractional service. If the route has more than 2 daily flights, departures are rounded, but in cases of less than 2 departures per day a fraction is shown. For example, if a flight operates 4 times in April it will show 4/30=0.133=0.1. Also , a flight that only operates once per week may vary between 0.1 and 0.2 because a weekday may repeat either 4 or 5 times depending on the month.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE SKYWEST
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
Seats are not shown. That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN ERROR?
The carriers file the schedules. They do make mistakes. Most of the mistakes I have seen are either related to code shares not being marked as "duplicates" or carriers filing flights with invalid data such as equipment codes that are not standard or overlapping schedule periods that see the same flight number in two places at once. These cause flights to not appear.

CHARTERS?
Lately charters have been showing up in the database. I have no idea if that will continue.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

********************NOTE: Files from the source were corrupt. This happens periodically. I waited to see if there would be a corrected file, but not yet, so here is what I was able to extract. There will probably be an update if a new file comes available. There's a ;ot of route changes for NK/F9 that appear. I am not sure if that was part of the corruption or those are real...I leave it to you readers to determine until I can do a new version.

AA BCN-ORD APR 0>0.8[0] MAY 0.8>1.0[0.9]
AA CLT-FPO DEC 0.5>0[0.6] JAN 0.3>0[0.2]
AA CLT-MHH DEC 0.3>0[0.1] JAN 0.2>0[0]
*AA DFW-DUB MAY 0>0.8[0]
AA DFW-SBP JAN 1.2>2.0[0] FEB 1.0>2[0] MAR 1.0>2[0] APR 1.0>2[0] MAY 1.0>2[0] JUN 1.0>2[0] JUL 1.0>2[0]
AA FCO-JFK APR 0>1.0[0] MAY 0.8>1.0[0.9]
AA FPO-MIA NOV 1.3>1.0[2] DEC 1.9>1.0[2] JAN 2>1.0[2] FEB 2>1.0[2] MAR 2>1.0[3] APR 2>1.0[2] MAY 2>1.0[2] JUN 2>1.0[2] JUL 2>1.0[2]
AA JFK-MAD FEB 0.0>0.4[1.0]
AA MIA-SDQ MAR 5>4[4]
AA ORD-PUJ FEB 0.6>0.2[0.5] MAR 0.8>0.1[0.9]
AA PHL-PUJ JAN 1.2>0.3[1.2] FEB 1.3>0.2[1.2] MAR 1.1>0.1[1.2] APR 1.1>0.1[1.1] MAY 2>1.0[1.9]
AA PHL-SXM APR 1.0>0.3[0] MAY 0.6>0.2[0] JUN 0.9>0.1[0] JUL 1.0>0.1[0]

AC DTW-YYZ MAY 5>4[4] JUN 5>4[4] JUL 5>4[4]
AC PHL-YYZ MAY 4>5[4]

AI BOM-JFK NOV 0.4>0[0] DEC 0.4>0[0.4] JAN 0.5>0[0] FEB 0.4>0[0] MAR 0.4>0.0[0]

AM JFK-MEX DEC 4>3[4]
AM LAX-MEX DEC 4>1.6[5]

AV GUA-LAX DEC 1.0>1.2[2]

B0 EWR-NCE MAY 0.5>0[0] JUN 0.5>0[0] JUL 0.6>0[0]
B0 EWR-ORY MAY 1.6>2[1.5] JUL 1.4>2[1.6]

B6 BQN-FLL NOV 0.5>0.9[0.5] DEC 0.5>1.0[0.5] JAN 0.3>0.6[0.4] FEB 0.4>0.8[0.3] MAR 0.3>0.7[0.5] APR 0.3>0.7[0.4]

Did these just change IATA codes?
*BA EWR-ORY DEC 0>0.6[0] JAN 0>0.5[0.7] FEB 0>0.5[0.7] MAR 0>0.5[0.8]
*BA LAS-ORY DEC 0>0.3[0] JAN 0>0.4[0] FEB 0>0.3[0] MAR 0>0.3[0]

Strange SWF is still loaded. I assume it is unbookable...
D8 DUB-PVD NOV 0.5>0[1.0] DEC 0.5>0[1.0] JAN 0.5>0[0.4] FEB 0.5>0[0.4] MAR 0.5>0[0.5]
D8 DUB-SWF NOV 1.2>0.9[2] DEC 1.1>0.9[1.9] JAN 1.2>0.9[0.9] FEB 1.4>1.0[0.9] MAR 1.1>0.8[0.9]

DL AGS-ATL APR 8>9[8] MAY 8>9[7]
DL ASE-SLC APR 1.0>1.2[2]
DL ATL-MHH NOV 0.6>0[0.4]
DL ATL-PNS APR 8>9[8] MAY 8>9[7] JUN 8>9[8] JUL 8>9[8]
DL CHA-DTW MAR 2>1.7[1.5]
DL CMH-DTW FEB 6>7[6]
DL CMH-RDU FEB 0.6>0.8[0.8]
DL CUN-MCO APR 0.1>0.4[0.3]
DL DTW-PVR APR 0>0.2[0.1]
DL DTW-SJD APR 0.1>0.3[0.2]
DL DTW-SJU JAN 0.5>1.0[0] FEB 0.5>1.0[0] MAR 0.5>1.0[0] APR 0.5>1.0[0]
DL JFK-RSW APR 0>0.2[0.3]
DL LGA-ORD MAY 13>12[12]
DL LIR-MSP MAR 0.7>0.9[0.5] APR 0.1>0.3[0]
DL MBJ-MSP APR 0.1>0.4[0.0]
DL MSP-PUJ JAN 1.0>0.7[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.8[1.2] MAR 1.7>1.3[1.4] APR 0.1>0.5[1.0]
DL MSP-SJD APR 0.1>0.3[0.2]
DL PSC-SEA JAN 3>4[3] FEB 3>4[3]
DL SEA-TUS APR 1.0>1.2[0.1]

Plz read the note at the top and take these with a grain of salt
F9 ATL-PHL NOV 0.7>0.5[0] DEC 1.0>0.5[0] JAN 0.9>0.6[0]
F9 BDL-MIA NOV 0.2>0.6[0]
*F9 BHM-DEN NOV 0.4>0.2[0.4] DEC 0.3>0[0.3] JAN 0.3>0[0] FEB 0.3>0[0]
*F9 BNA-RSW NOV 0.2>0[0.3] DEC 0.5>0[0.6] JAN 0.4>0[0.6] FEB 0.4>0[0.6]
F9 BOS-MIA NOV 0.3>0.6[0]
F9 BUF-DEN NOV 0.3>0.5[0.4] DEC 0>0.5[0.3]
F9 CLT-DEN DEC 1.0>0.5[0.6]
F9 DEN-DFW DEC 0.8>1.4[1.0] JAN 0.7>1.4[1.3] FEB 0.8>1.5[1.2]
F9 DEN-FAR NOV 0.2>0.4[0.4] DEC 0>0.5[0.4]
*F9 DEN-JAX NOV 0.5>0.2[0.4] DEC 0.4>0[0.3] JAN 0.3>0[0] FEB 0.3>0[0.3]
*F9 DEN-SDF NOV 0.5>0.2[0.4] DEC 0.5>0[0.3] JAN 0.4>0[0] FEB 0.4>0[0]
F9 DEN-SLC DEC 3>2[1.7] JAN 3>2[3] FEB 3>2[3]
F9 GRR-MCO NOV 0.8>0.6[0.8] DEC 1.0>0.5[0.9] JAN 1.0>0.6[0.9] FEB 1.0>0.6[1.0]
F9 GRR-RSW DEC 0.2>0.5[0.6]
*F9 IAD-LAS NOV 0.7>0.2[0.4] DEC 1.0>0[0.4] JAN 1.0>0[1.0] FEB 1.0>0[1.0]
*F9 IAD-MCO NOV 0.8>0.2[0.7] DEC 1.0>0[0.8] JAN 1.0>0[1.0] FEB 1.0>0[1.0]
*F9 ISP-RDU NOV 0.4>0.2[0] DEC 0.5>0[0]
F9 LAS-LAX JAN 0.8>1.3[0] FEB 0.8>1.0[0]
F9 LAS-PHX JAN 1.8>2[0]
F9 LAS-SAT DEC 0.7>0.4[0.4] JAN 0.8>0.5[0.6]
F9 LAS-SJC JAN 0.7>1.1[0.6] FEB 0.6>0.9[0.6]
F9 LAS-SMF JAN 0.8>1.3[0] FEB 0.8>1.0[0]
F9 LAS-SNA JAN 0.8>1.0[0] FEB 0.8>1.0[0]
F9 MCO-ONT JAN 0.7>1.0[0] FEB 0.6>1.0[0]
*F9 MCO-PUJ NOV 0.5>0.1[0] DEC 0.5>0[0] JAN 0.6>0[0] FEB 0.6>0[0]
F9 MCO-PWM NOV 0.7>0.4[0.7] DEC 1.0>0.5[0.6] JAN 1.0>0.5[0] FEB 1.0>0.6[0]
F9 MIA-PHL JAN 1.5>1.0[1.0]
F9 MKE-PHX NOV 0>0.3[0.2] DEC 0.2>0.5[0.3]
F9 MSP-RSW DEC 0.2>0.5[0.4]
F9 MSY-PHL DEC 1.0>0.7[1.0] JAN 0.9>0.4[0.6] FEB 0.9>0.4[0.6]
F9 OMA-RSW NOV 0>0.2[0.1] DEC 0.2>0.5[0.3]
F9 ORD-RSW NOV 0>0.6[0.4] DEC 0.2>1.0[0.7] JAN 0.5>1.0[0.4] FEB 0.5>1.0[0.4]
F9 ORD-TPA JAN 0.8>1.0[1.0] FEB 0.8>1.0[1.0]
F9 PBI-PHL JAN 0.9>0.6[0.4]
F9 PHL-TPA NOV 1.2>1.5[0.8] DEC 1.5>2.0[1.2] JAN 1.4>2.0[1.0] FEB 1.5>2[1.0]

HU CKG-LAX MAR 0.3>0.5[0.3] APR 0.3>0.6[0.3] MAY 0.3>0.6[0.3] JUN 0.3>0.6[0.3] JUL 0.3>0.5[0.3]
HU CTU-LAX MAR 0.3>0.5[0.3] APR 0.4>0.7[0.3] MAY 0.4>0.7[0.4] JUN 0.4>0.7[0.4] JUL 0.4>0.7[0.4]
**HU LAS-PEK NOV 0.3>0[0.3] JAN 0.3>0.1[0.5] FEB 0.3>0[0.4] MAR 0.3>0.1[0.4]
HU LAX-XIY MAR 0.3>0.5[0] APR 0.3>0.6[0] MAY 0.3>0.5[0] JUN 0.3>0.6[0] JUL 0.3>0.6[0]

Plz read the note at the top and take these with a grain of salt
NK ACY-MYR JAN 1.0>0.8[1.0]
NK AVL-MCO JAN 1.0>0.7[0] FEB 1.0>0.8[0]
NK BOS-BWI JAN 2>0.4[2] FEB 2>0[2]
NK BOS-RDU JAN 1.0>0.7[0]
NK BWI-ORD JAN 1.0>0.2[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.6[1.0]
NK BWI-RDU JAN 1.0>0.2[0] FEB 1.0>0.6[0]
NK DEN-LAS FEB 1.0>1.6[2]
NK DEN-LAX FEB 0.6>0[1.0]
NK DTW-FLL DEC 3>4[2]
NK DTW-JAX JAN 1.0>0.3[0] FEB 1.0>0.5[0]
NK DTW-MCI JAN 0.7>0.2[1.0] FEB 0.9>0.6[1.0]
*NK DTW-RDU JAN 0.7>0.2[0] FEB 0.9>0[0]
NK IAH-TPA JAN 1.0>0.7[1.0]
NK JAX-ORD JAN 0.7>0.3[0] FEB 0.9>0.5[0]
NK LAS-LAX JAN 3>1.9[2]
NK LAS-SEA JAN 3>1.9[2] FEB 3>1.9[2]
NK LAX-OAK JAN 2>1.2[3] FEB 2>1.0[3]
NK ORD-RDU JAN 1.0>0.2[0] FEB 1.0>0[0]

UA BDL-ORD FEB 2>3[3]
UA BQN-EWR NOV 0.5>1.0[0.5] DEC 0.5>1.0[0.5] JAN 0.5>1.0[0.1] FEB 0.5>1.0[0.1] MAR 0.5>1.0[0.4] APR 0.5>1.0[0.5] MAY 0.5>1.0[0.5] JUN 0.5>1.0[0.5] JUL 0.5>1.0[0.5]
UA CGI-ORD DEC 0.9>1.6[0.8] FEB 1.3>1.8[0.9] MAR 0.9>1.7[0.8] APR 0.9>1.7[0.9] MAY 0.8>1.7[0.9] JUN 0.9>1.7[0.8] JUL 0.9>1.7[0.9]
UA CGI-PAH NOV 1.8>1.3[0] DEC 1.9>0.1[0] JAN 0.3>0[0] FEB 1.1>0[0] MAR 1.9>0[0] APR 1.9>0[0] MAY 1.8>0[0] JUN 1.9>0[0] JUL 1.9>0[0]
UA CMH-IAH NOV 4>3[4]
UA DVL-JMS NOV 1.4>0.9[1.4] DEC 1.4>0.9[1.4] JAN 1.4>0.9[1.3] FEB 1.4>0.9[1.4] MAR 1.4>0.9[1.4] APR 1.4>0.9[1.4] MAY 1.4>0.9[1.3] JUN 1.4>0.9[1.4] JUL 1.4>0.9[1.3]
UA EAR-ORD DEC 0>0.9[0] JAN 0>1.0[0] FEB 0>1.0[0] MAR 0>1.0[0] APR 0>1.0[0] MAY 0>1.0[0] JUN 0>1.0[0] JUL 0>1.0[0]
UA HYS-SLN NOV 1.7>1.3[1.8] DEC 1.7>1.3[1.6] JAN 1.7>1.3[0] FEB 1.7>1.3[0] MAR 1.7>1.3[0] APR 1.7>1.3[1.3] MAY 1.7>1.3[1.7] JUN 1.7>1.3[1.7] JUL 1.7>1.3[1.7]
UA IAD-LWB FEB 0.5>0[0] MAR 0.7>0.5[0]
UA IAD-OGS DEC 0.7>1.0[0] JAN 0.7>1.0[0] MAR 0.7>0.9[0]
UA IAD-SHD DEC 1.0>1.9[1.0] FEB 1.4>2[0] MAR 0.8>2[0] APR 0.9>2[1.6] MAY 0.8>2[1.8] JUN 0.9>2[1.8] JUL 0.9>2[1.7]
UA IAH-ICT NOV 5>4[4]
UA IAH-MOT NOV 0.2>0[0.2] JAN 0.3>0[0.2]
UA IAH-PHL NOV 4>3[4]
UA IAH-PNS NOV 6>5[4]
UA IAH-SLC NOV 4>3[4]
UA MCI-SFO DEC 1.8>1.4[3]
UA OGS-ORD DEC 1.0>0.7[0] JAN 1.0>0.7[0] FEB 1.0>0.8[0] MAR 1.0>0.7[0] APR 1.0>0.7[0] MAY 1.0>0.7[0] JUN 1.0>0.7[0] JUL 1.0>0.7[0]
UA ORD-PVD FEB 1.0>1.6[1.0]
UA OTH-SFO JAN 1.0>0.8[0.6]
 
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Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:30 pm

Thanks as always!

Looks like DFW-DUB, BCN-ORD, and JFK-FCO will start a month earlier, and PHL-SXM goes year round?

CLT-FPO/MHH cut, MIA-FPO reduced, due to the hurricane?
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Re: OAG Changes 9/22/2019:Big F9 Changes (?);HU Exits LAS-PEK

Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:36 pm

Not much going on with this one but we ALL appreciate your work on this every week.
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Re: OAG Changes 9/22/2019:Big F9 Changes (?);HU Exits LAS-PEK

Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:44 pm

enilria wrote:
Did these just change IATA codes?
*BA EWR-ORY DEC 0>0.6[0] JAN 0>0.5[0.7] FEB 0>0.5[0.7] MAR 0>0.5[0.8]
*BA LAS-ORY DEC 0>0.3[0] JAN 0>0.4[0] FEB 0>0.3[0] MAR 0>0.3[0]


Must be a mistake/codeshare, not sure.
I looked them up in Amadeus and they are operated by Level France (Openskies / IATA code LV), unless that hasn't updated yet.
It noted operational legs are LV8012 LAS-ORY and LV8010 EWR-ORY.

Thanks again, always look forward to Sundays!
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/22/2019:Big F9 Changes (?);HU Exits LAS-PEK

Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:50 pm

Wasn't ISP-RDU seasonal anyway?
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/22/2019:Big F9 Changes (?);HU Exits LAS-PEK

Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:01 pm

enilria wrote:
**HU LAS-PEK NOV 0.3>0[0.3] JAN 0.3>0.1[0.5] FEB 0.3>0[0.4] MAR 0.3>0.1[0.4]

This then frees up a Tier1 allotment, does it not?

If so, might be the last time that such a think is of value, with the new BJS gateway coming on line.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/22/2019:Big F9 Changes (?);HU Exits LAS-PEK

Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:04 pm

Is this a tag on a flight from DEN or ORD?
UA HYS-SLN NOV 1.7>1.3[1.8] DEC 1.7>1.3[1.6] JAN 1.7>1.3[0] FEB 1.7>1.3[0] MAR 1.7>1.3[0] APR 1.7>1.3[1.3] MAY 1.7>1.3[1.7] JUN 1.7>1.3[1.7] JUL 1.7>1.3[1.7]
Is it a 78K? :-)
 
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Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:06 pm

I didn't believe it was Sunday until The Thread showed up! Phew!

Thanks for this Enilria! It is so much appreciated by so many of us anonymous folks out here!

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Re: OAG Changes 9/22/2019:Big F9 Changes (?);HU Exits LAS-PEK

Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:07 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
enilria wrote:
**HU LAS-PEK NOV 0.3>0[0.3] JAN 0.3>0.1[0.5] FEB 0.3>0[0.4] MAR 0.3>0.1[0.4]

This then frees up a Tier1 allotment, does it not?

If so, might be the last time that such a think is of value, with the new BJS gateway coming on line.


The opening of PKX doesn’t change the number of Tier 1 slots available. Those are dictated by treaty, which the US has shown no inclination to expand.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/22/2019:Big F9 Changes (?);HU Exits LAS-PEK

Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:24 pm

jrkmsp wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
enilria wrote:
**HU LAS-PEK NOV 0.3>0[0.3] JAN 0.3>0.1[0.5] FEB 0.3>0[0.4] MAR 0.3>0.1[0.4]

This then frees up a Tier1 allotment, does it not?

If so, might be the last time that such a think is of value, with the new BJS gateway coming on line.


The opening of PKX doesn’t change the number of Tier 1 slots available. Those are dictated by treaty, which the US has shown no inclination to expand.

That's conflating allotments with slots/frequencies though, which IINM, isn't the case.

Assuming that the are going to be treated as co-terminals (which I admittedly don't know for fact), then it's only one allotment, but would allow for significant increases in capacity/frequency, depending on where it's repositioned to.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/22/2019:Big F9 Changes (?);HU Exits LAS-PEK

Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:33 pm

The F9 changes on DEN-SDF seem legitimate. Checked the f9 site and the flights are gone :(
 
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Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:44 pm

What's with JFK-MAD on AA?
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:13 am

LAX772LR wrote:
enilria wrote:
**HU LAS-PEK NOV 0.3>0[0.3] JAN 0.3>0.1[0.5] FEB 0.3>0[0.4] MAR 0.3>0.1[0.4]

This then frees up a Tier1 allotment, does it not?

If so, might be the last time that such a think is of value, with the new BJS gateway coming on line.

I thought both CZ and CA have reduced some Tier 1 to America flights already? Or are they just temporary reduction?
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:16 am

Ishrion wrote:
Thanks as always!

Looks like DFW-DUB, BCN-ORD, and JFK-FCO will start a month earlier, and PHL-SXM goes year round?

CLT-FPO/MHH cut, MIA-FPO reduced, due to the hurricane?

Wasn’t PHL-SXM usually year round but then cut back post-Irma? Isn’t this a sign of continued weakness in SXM?
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:18 am

and whatnot.
BN727227Ultra wrote:
Is this a tag on a flight from DEN or ORD?
UA HYS-SLN NOV 1.7>1.3[1.8] DEC 1.7>1.3[1.6] JAN 1.7>1.3[0] FEB 1.7>1.3[0] MAR 1.7>1.3[0] APR 1.7>1.3[1.3] MAY 1.7>1.3[1.7] JUN 1.7>1.3[1.7] JUL 1.7>1.3[1.7]
Is it a 78K? :-)


Yes, on a DEN-HYS-SLN-ORD routing and whatnot.
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:36 am

Thanks enilria
enilria wrote:
AA FCO-JFK APR 0>1.0[0] MAY 0.8>1.0[0.9]
AA JFK-MAD FEB 0.0>0.4[1.0]

first is somewhat surprising. The second one I believe reading from JonNYC tweet that the original filing was going to get amended. MAD is going to subdaily in winter rather than seasonal

B0 EWR-NCE MAY 0.5>0[0] JUN 0.5>0[0] JUL 0.6>0[0]
B0 EWR-ORY MAY 1.6>2[1.5] JUL 1.4>2[1.6]

this makes me really sad. La Compagnie service is a huge plus for us in NY and losing one destination hurts. I wish they could expand, but after failing at LTN and NCE, not sure where else they could add.

B6 BQN-FLL NOV 0.5>0.9[0.5] DEC 0.5>1.0[0.5] JAN 0.3>0.6[0.4] FEB 0.4>0.8[0.3] MAR 0.3>0.7[0.5] APR 0.3>0.7[0.4]

not sure what they are doing given the recent weakness there. I think they should be cutting at PR.
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:10 am

Ishrion wrote:

CLT-FPO/MHH cut, MIA-FPO reduced, due to the hurricane?


Yes, pretty much.
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:45 am

sprxUSA wrote:
and whatnot.
BN727227Ultra wrote:
Is this a tag on a flight from DEN or ORD?
UA HYS-SLN NOV 1.7>1.3[1.8] DEC 1.7>1.3[1.6] JAN 1.7>1.3[0] FEB 1.7>1.3[0] MAR 1.7>1.3[0] APR 1.7>1.3[1.3] MAY 1.7>1.3[1.7] JUN 1.7>1.3[1.7] JUL 1.7>1.3[1.7]
Is it a 78K? :-)


Yes, on a DEN-HYS-SLN-ORD routing and whatnot.


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Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:10 am

I think HU is just suspending PEK-LAS/YYC for the winter? Not sure if they've completely cut them yet.
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:12 am

More puj cuts....
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:26 am

**HU LAS-PEK NOV 0.3>0[0.3] JAN 0.3>0.1[0.5] FEB 0.3>0[0.4] MAR 0.3>0.1[0.4]



Still shows .1 for Jan and March and I found bookable nonstops in March. Does it really disappear completely?
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:35 am

enilria wrote:
NK BOS-RDU JAN 1.0>0.7[0]
NK BWI-RDU JAN 1.0>0.2[0] FEB 1.0>0.6[0]
*NK DTW-RDU JAN 0.7>0.2[0] FEB 0.9>0[0]
NK ORD-RDU JAN 1.0>0.2[0] FEB 1.0>0[0]


I was surprised that they were planning to run these in the winter in the first place..... RDU-BWI was 34% LF in May
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:52 am

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The F9 changes on DEN-SDF seem legitimate. Checked the f9 site and the flights are gone :(

Odd...it seems like that flight has been doing well. UA is able to have 2x daily flights on that route (albeit on an E145)
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:01 pm

FLL-BQN is a pretty safe flight to fly. Even with increase, it still isnt daily.

Sadly, the population of PR makes the reduced schedules a permanent fixture.

Air India JFK...are they leaving?

I know DL is starting the route. Would help them
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:11 pm

The F9 changes seem sensical to me. Cut contested routes from other airlines' hubs and/or that would never in a million years be able to fill an all-Y airbus (cough....DEN-BHM....cough) that they were flying less than daily to make successful uncontested routes daily.

Also expanding ORD-Florida flying during peak. UA has shown zero interest in protecting their turf on CHI-FL. AA only cares about MIA. NK is basically out of gate space. WN can't grow capacity to fight due to being out of gates at MDW and out of fleet.
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:27 pm

yes I know - it's odd. Load factors have been very high. High load factors dont always mean the fares/ profitability is good, but I am still surprised.

And Enrilia, in his post, indicates there were no nonstops DEN-SDF in January/February 2019. That is inaccurate - Frontier did fly DENSDF in both January and February this year.


kwp302 wrote:
jasoncrh wrote:
The F9 changes on DEN-SDF seem legitimate. Checked the f9 site and the flights are gone :(

Odd...it seems like that flight has been doing well. UA is able to have 2x daily flights on that route (albeit on an E145)
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:07 pm

Looks like daddy wants all the pie...

AM JFK-MEX DEC 4>3[4]
AM LAX-MEX DEC 4>1.6[5]
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:18 pm

Interesting that DTW-SJU is going from weekly to daily so quickly

DL DTW-SJU JAN 0.5>1.0[0] FEB 0.5>1.0[0] MAR 0.5>1.0[0] APR 0.5>1.0[0]
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:04 pm

Thanks, Enilria!
hiflyeras wrote:
Looks like daddy wants all the pie...

AM JFK-MEX DEC 4>3[4]
AM LAX-MEX DEC 4>1.6[5]

Or, more likely, that the effects of the MAX grounding will continue into December ...
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:25 pm

Looks like F9 is shifting SDF-DEN to SDF-MCO for the winter. Let's hope it comes back in the S20 skd.
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:36 pm

it's sad - they did both last winter.

Italianflyer wrote:
Looks like F9 is shifting SDF-DEN to SDF-MCO for the winter. Let's hope it comes back in the S20 skd.
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:00 pm

Sightseer wrote:
Thanks, Enilria!
hiflyeras wrote:
Looks like daddy wants all the pie...

AM JFK-MEX DEC 4>3[4]
AM LAX-MEX DEC 4>1.6[5]

Or, more likely, that the effects of the MAX grounding will continue into December ...


They apparently only have six...not a huge hit to be dealing with.
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:45 am

Finally got a new source file. Pretty much the same except FI suspends SFO assuming for Winter.

FAQ

AS OF JULY 2018 THERE ARE CHANGES TO THE FORMAT OF THIS REPORT...SEE BELOW

WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares departures for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...prior year departures are now shown in brackets e.g. [0].

THE SCHEDULES SHOWN HERE CHANGE AFTER YOU POST???
-To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often---Winston Churchill. This is data the carriers filed at the point in time it was captured. It's changed since then. You are just going to have to live with it.

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5[4] JAN 4>5[4]
XXX Departure IATA code, YYY Arrival IATA code, Month, Average Departures/Day over the month for sale as of last week, Average Departures/Day over the month for sale as of this week, in brackets is the number of Average Departures/Day over the month that were scheduled one year earlier. So, it means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. It also means that there were 4 roundtrips the prior year in each month. No other months were changed. I average two directions.

WHAT ABOUT CARRIERS THAT DON'T PUBLISH A SCHEDULE 9 MONTHS IN ADVANCE?
NEW CHANGE-Sometimes airlines do not load their schedules for the entire 330 day standard sales window. Southwest and many LCCs load their schedules for as little as 5 months into the future. When these flight are extended into a new sales month, it becomes a "schedule change". Previously, I have manually deleted these in many cases and replaced them with a Year-Over-Year compare. Effective immediately, this will now change. When a flight is loaded from 0 departures X departures, where X was the same the prior year, the record will not be shown. For example, if Delta loaded ATL-EGE MAR 0>1(1), it would not be shown because this additional flight does not represent a real year-over-year addition. Similarly, if B6 extended their schedule a record like this ATL-BOS JUL 0>4(4) would not be shown. It will be shown if the flight frequency changed from the prior year. So B6 ATL-BOS JUL 0>3(4) would be shown. If a partial month was loaded in a core schedule that became a full schedule month, those changes may be shown under this logic. For example, WN BNA-SEA 0.3>2(2). Because only a fraction of the month was previously loaded for sale, these changes will not be filtered out. I may, however, manually remove them to declutter.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month. The following criteria are used to show a change: 1) The change must be at least 6 roundtrips per month with no exceptions, 2) changes of at least 6/week are always shown, 3) routes that are added or dropped are shown subject to the change minimum, and 4) in all other cases routes must change by 20% to be shown. For example, if a route changed from 21/week to 18/week it would not be shown because the change is -14.3%. This is done to filter minor changes that occur in large numbers.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Flights that do not operate every day of the month create fractional service. If the route has more than 2 daily flights, departures are rounded, but in cases of less than 2 departures per day a fraction is shown. For example, if a flight operates 4 times in April it will show 4/30=0.133=0.1. Also , a flight that only operates once per week may vary between 0.1 and 0.2 because a weekday may repeat either 4 or 5 times depending on the month.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE SKYWEST
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
Seats are not shown. That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN ERROR?
The carriers file the schedules. They do make mistakes. Most of the mistakes I have seen are either related to code shares not being marked as "duplicates" or carriers filing flights with invalid data such as equipment codes that are not standard or overlapping schedule periods that see the same flight number in two places at once. These cause flights to not appear.

CHARTERS?
Lately charters have been showing up in the database. I have no idea if that will continue.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

7Q EWR-VRB JAN 0.1>0.3[0.3] APR 0>0.3[0.6] MAY 0>0.3[0.6]

AA BCN-ORD APR 0>0.8[0] MAY 0.8>1.0[0.9]
AA CLT-FPO DEC 0.5>0[0.6] JAN 0.3>0[0.3]
AA CLT-MHH DEC 0.3>0[0.1] JAN 0.2>0[0.1]
AA DFW-DUB MAY 0>0.8[0]
AA DFW-SBP JAN 1.2>2.0[0] FEB 1.0>2[0] MAR 1.0>2[0] APR 1.0>2[1.0] MAY 1.0>2[1.0] JUN 1.0>2[1.0]
AA FCO-JFK APR 0>1.0[0] MAY 0.8>1.0[0.9]
AA FPO-MIA OCT 1.0>0[2] NOV 1.3>1.0[2] DEC 1.9>1.0[2] JAN 2>1.0[2] FEB 2>1.0[2] MAR 2>1.0[2] APR 2>1.0[2] MAY 2>1.0[2] JUN 2>1.0[2]
AA JFK-MAD FEB 0.0>0.4[1.0]
AA MIA-SDQ MAR 5>4[5]
AA ORD-PUJ FEB 0.6>0.2[0.5] MAR 0.8>0.1[0.9]
AA PHL-PUJ JAN 1.2>0.3[1.3] FEB 1.2>0.2[1.2] MAR 1.1>0.1[1.2] APR 1.1>0.1[1.1] MAY 2>1.0[1.9]
AA PHL-STT JUN 0.4>0.1[0.1]
AA PHL-SXM APR 1.0>0.3[1.0] MAY 0.6>0.2[0.7] JUN 0.9>0.1[0.9]

AC DTW-YYZ MAY 5>4[5] JUN 5>4[5]
AC PHL-YYZ MAY 4>5[4]

AM JFK-MEX DEC 4>3[4]
AM LAX-MEX DEC 4>1.6[5]

B6 FLL-SDQ NOV 2.0>1.1[1.0]

BF EWR-ORY JUN 0>0.7[0]

D8 DUB-PVD OCT 0.5>0[0.7] NOV 0.5>0[1.0] DEC 0.5>0[1.0] JAN 0.5>0[0.8] FEB 0.5>0[0.8] MAR 0.5>0[0.9]
D8 DUB-SWF OCT 1.3>0[2] NOV 1.2>0[2] DEC 1.1>0[1.9] JAN 1.2>0[1.4] FEB 1.3>0[1.0] MAR 1.1>0[1.0]

DL AGS-ATL APR 8>9[8] MAY 8>9[8]
DL ASE-SLC APR 1.0>1.2[2]
DL ATL-MHH OCT 0.4>0[0.3] NOV 0.6>0[0.4]
DL ATL-PNS APR 8>9[8] MAY 8>9[8] JUN 8>9[9]
DL CHA-DTW MAR 2>1.7[1.5]
DL CMH-DTW FEB 5>6[6]
DL CUN-MCO APR 0.1>0.4[0.2]
DL DTW-PVR APR 0>0.2[0.0]
DL DTW-SJD APR 0.1>0.3[0.2]
DL JFK-RSW APR 0>0.2[0]
DL LGA-ORD MAY 13>12[13]
DL LIR-MSP MAR 0.7>0.9[0.7] APR 0.1>0.3[0]
DL MBJ-MSP APR 0.1>0.4[0]
DL MSP-PUJ JAN 1.0>0.7[1.1] FEB 1.0>0.8[1.6] MAR 1.7>1.3[2] APR 0.1>0.5[0.2]
DL MSP-SJD APR 0.1>0.3[0.1]
DL PSC-SEA JAN 3>4[3] FEB 3>4[3]
DL SEA-TUS APR 1.0>1.2[0]

DY AMS-JFK JAN 1.0>0.7[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.8[1.0]

F9 ATL-MCO MAR 0.5>0.7[1.0]
F9 ATL-PHL NOV 0.7>0.5[0] DEC 1.0>0.5[0] JAN 0.9>0.6[0]
F9 AUS-LAS NOV 0.8>1.0[1.0] DEC 0.7>1.0[0.9]
F9 BDL-MIA NOV 0.2>0.6[0]
F9 BHM-DEN NOV 0.4>0.2[0.4] DEC 0.3>0[0.3] JAN 0.3>0[0.3] FEB 0.3>0[0.3]
F9 BNA-RSW NOV 0.2>0[0.3] DEC 0.5>0[0.6] JAN 0.4>0[0.5] FEB 0.4>0[0.6]
F9 BOS-MIA NOV 0.3>0.6[0]
F9 BUF-DEN NOV 0.3>0.5[0.4] DEC 0>0.5[0.3]
F9 CLT-DEN DEC 1.0>0.5[0.6]
F9 DEN-DFW DEC 0.8>1.4[1.0] JAN 0.7>1.4[1.0] FEB 0.8>1.4[1.0] MAR 0.2>0.5[1.0]
F9 DEN-FAR NOV 0.2>0.4[0.4] DEC 0>0.5[0.4]
F9 DEN-JAX NOV 0.5>0.2[0.4] DEC 0.4>0[0.3] JAN 0.3>0[0.3] FEB 0.3>0[0.3]
F9 DEN-LAX JAN 2>3[1.4]
F9 DEN-ONT JAN 0.7>1.0[0.5] FEB 0.6>1.0[0.4]
F9 DEN-ORD NOV 2.0>1.4[1.4] DEC 1.4>1.0[1.3]
F9 DEN-PDX JAN 0.8>1.0[1.3] FEB 0.8>1.0[1.1]
F9 DEN-PHX JAN 3>4[2]
F9 DEN-SDF NOV 0.5>0.2[0.4] DEC 0.5>0[0.3] JAN 0.4>0[0.3] FEB 0.4>0[0.3]
F9 DEN-SLC DEC 3>2[1.7] JAN 3>2[2.0] FEB 3>2[1.9] MAR 0.9>0.7[2]
F9 DEN-SMF JAN 0.4>1.4[0.3]
F9 GRR-MCO NOV 0.8>0.6[0.8] DEC 1.0>0.5[0.9] JAN 1.0>0.6[0.8] FEB 1.0>0.6[0.8]
F9 GRR-RSW DEC 0.2>0.5[0.6]
F9 IAD-LAS NOV 0.7>0.2[0.4] DEC 1.0>0[0.4] JAN 1.0>0[0.5] FEB 1.0>0[0.4] MAR 0.4>0[0.4]
F9 IAD-MCO NOV 0.8>0.2[0.7] DEC 1.0>0[0.8] JAN 1.0>0[0.9] FEB 1.0>0[0.9] MAR 0.4>0[0.7]
F9 ISP-RDU NOV 0.4>0.2[0] DEC 0.5>0[0] JAN 0.4>0[0] FEB 0.4>0[0]
F9 LAS-LAX JAN 0.8>1.3[0] FEB 0.8>1.0[0]
F9 LAS-PHX JAN 1.8>2[0]
F9 LAS-SAT DEC 0.7>0.4[0.4] JAN 0.8>0.5[0.5]
F9 LAS-SJC JAN 0.7>1.1[0.3] FEB 0.6>0.9[0.4]
F9 LAS-SMF JAN 0.8>1.3[0.3] FEB 0.8>1.0[0.4]
F9 LAS-SNA JAN 0.8>1.0[0] FEB 0.8>1.0[0]
F9 MCO-ONT JAN 0.7>1.0[1.0] FEB 0.6>1.0[1.0]
F9 MCO-PHL DEC 4>3[3] JAN 4>3[3] FEB 4>3[3]
F9 MCO-PUJ NOV 0.5>0.1[0] DEC 0.5>0[0] JAN 0.6>0[0] FEB 0.6>0[0] MAR 0.2>0[0]
F9 MCO-PWM NOV 0.7>0.4[0.7] DEC 1.0>0.5[0.6] JAN 1.0>0.5[0.5] FEB 1.0>0.6[0.6]
F9 MIA-PHL JAN 1.5>1.0[0.7]
F9 MKE-PHX NOV 0>0.3[0.2] DEC 0.2>0.5[0.3]
F9 MSP-RSW DEC 0.2>0.5[0.4]
F9 MSY-PHL DEC 1.0>0.7[1.0] JAN 0.9>0.4[1.0] FEB 0.9>0.4[0.8] MAR 0.4>0.2[0.7]
F9 OMA-RSW NOV 0>0.2[0.1] DEC 0.2>0.5[0.3]
F9 ORD-RSW NOV 0>0.6[0.4] DEC 0.2>1.0[0.7] JAN 0.5>1.0[0.7] FEB 0.4>1.0[0.7] MAR 0.1>0.4[0.7]
F9 ORD-TPA JAN 0.8>1.0[1.0] FEB 0.8>1.0[1.0]
F9 PBI-PHL JAN 0.9>0.6[0.5]
F9 PHL-TPA NOV 1.2>1.5[0.8] DEC 1.5>2.0[1.2] JAN 1.4>2.0[1.1] FEB 1.4>2[1.1] MAR 0.5>0.7[1.2]
F9 PHX-SAN JAN 0.7>1.0[0] FEB 0.8>1.0[0]
F9 PHX-SLC JAN 0.8>1.0[0] FEB 0.8>1.0[0]

**FI KEF-SFO JAN 0.4>0.1[0.5] FEB 0.4>0[0.4] MAR 0.4>0[0.5] APR 0.6>0[0.6]

HA LAX-OGG JAN 1.1>0.7[1.0]

HU LAS-PEK NOV 0.3>0[0.3] JAN 0.3>0.1[0.3] FEB 0.3>0[0.3] MAR 0.3>0.1[0.3]

K3 CGA-KLW OCT 1.7>0.8[0.8] NOV 1.6>0.8[0.8] DEC 1.5>0.8[0.8] JAN 1.5>0.8[0.8] FEB 1.5>0.8[0.8] MAR 1.5>0.8[1.7] APR 1.6>0.9[1.3] MAY 1.5>0.8[1.7] JUN 1.6>0.9[1.7]
K3 CGA-KTB OCT 0.8>0.0[0.4] NOV 0.8>0[0.4] DEC 0.8>0[0.4] JAN 0.8>0[0.4] FEB 0.8>0[0.4] MAR 0.8>0[0.8] APR 0.9>0[0.4] MAY 0.8>0[0.9] JUN 0.9>0[0.8]
K3 CGA-KTN OCT 0.4>0[0.4] NOV 0.4>0[0.4] DEC 0.3>0[0.4] JAN 0.3>0[0.4] FEB 0.3>0[0.4] MAR 0.4>0[0.4] APR 0.4>0[0.4] MAY 0.3>0[0.4] JUN 0.4>0[0.4]
K3 HYG-KTN OCT 0.4>0[0.4] NOV 0.4>0[0.4] DEC 0.4>0[0.4] JAN 0.4>0[0.4] FEB 0.4>0[0.4] MAR 0.4>0[0.4] APR 0.4>0[0.4] MAY 0.4>0[0.5] JUN 0.4>0[0.4]
K3 KCC-KTN OCT 0.2>0[0.2] NOV 0.2>0[0.2] DEC 0.2>0[0.2] JAN 0.2>0[0.2] FEB 0.2>0[0.2] MAR 0.2>0[0.2] APR 0.2>0[0.2] MAY 0.2>0[0.2] JUN 0.2>0[0.2]
K3 KCC-WWP OCT 0.3>0[0.1] NOV 0.3>0[0.1] DEC 0.3>0[0.1] JAN 0.3>0[0.1] FEB 0.3>0[0.1] MAR 0.3>0[0.3] APR 0.3>0[0.3] MAY 0.3>0[0.3] JUN 0.3>0[0.3]
K3 KPB-PPV OCT 0.3>0[0.2] NOV 0.3>0[0.2] DEC 0.3>0[0.2] JAN 0.3>0[0.2] FEB 0.3>0[0.2] MAR 0.3>0[0.4] APR 0.3>0[0.4] MAY 0.3>0[0.4] JUN 0.3>0[0.4]
K3 KTB-KTN OCT 1.3>0.8[1.3] NOV 1.2>0.8[1.2] DEC 1.2>0.8[1.2] JAN 1.2>0.8[1.2] FEB 1.2>0.8[1.2] MAR 1.3>0.8[1.3] APR 1.3>0.9[1.3] MAY 1.2>0.8[1.3] JUN 1.3>0.9[1.3]
K3 KTN-MTM OCT 1.7>0.0[1.7] NOV 1.6>0[1.5] DEC 1.6>0[1.3] JAN 1.6>0[1.6] FEB 1.7>0[1.6] MAR 1.7>0[1.7] APR 1.7>0[1.7] MAY 1.6>0[1.7] JUN 1.7>0[1.7]

KE HNL-ICN DEC 1.0>1.4[1.0] JAN 1.0>1.6[1.0] FEB 1.0>1.6[1.1] MAR 1.0>1.5[1.0]

LO KRK-ORD JUN 0.4>0.7[0.4]

It would appear the cuts are real
NK ACY-MCO MAR 2>3[2] APR 1.4>1.8[2]
NK ACY-MYR JAN 1.0>0.8[1.0]
NK AVL-MCO JAN 1.0>0.7[0.5] FEB 1.0>0.7[0.5] MAR 1.0>0.7[0.6] APR 0.7>0.5[0.6]
NK BOS-BWI JAN 2>0.4[2] FEB 2>0[2] MAR 2>0[2] APR 1.4>0[2]
NK BOS-RDU JAN 1.0>0.7[0]
NK BWI-MYR FEB 0.6>0.3[0.6]
NK BWI-ORD JAN 1.0>0.2[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.6[1.0]
NK BWI-RDU JAN 1.0>0.2[0] FEB 1.0>0.6[0]
NK DEN-LAS FEB 1.0>1.6[1.0] MAR 1.0>2[1.0] APR 0.7>1.4[1.0]
NK DEN-LAX FEB 0.6>0[0] MAR 1.0>0[0] APR 0.7>0[0]
NK DTW-FLL DEC 3>4[2]
NK DTW-JAX JAN 1.0>0.3[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.5[1.0] MAR 1.0>0.7[1.0] APR 0.7>0.5[1.0]
NK DTW-MCI JAN 0.7>0.2[1.0] FEB 0.9>0.6[1.0]
NK DTW-RDU JAN 0.7>0.2[0] FEB 0.9>0[0] MAR 1.0>0[0] APR 0.7>0[0]
NK IAH-TPA JAN 1.0>0.7[1.0]
NK JAX-ORD JAN 0.7>0.3[1.0] FEB 0.9>0.5[1.0] MAR 1.0>0.7[1.0] APR 0.7>0.5[1.0]
NK LAS-LAX JAN 3>1.9[3]
NK LAS-SEA JAN 3>1.9[3] FEB 3>1.9[3] MAR 3>2[3] APR 2>1.4[3]
NK LAX-OAK JAN 2>1.2[2] FEB 2>1.0[2] MAR 2>1.0[2] APR 1.4>0.7[2]
NK ORD-RDU JAN 1.0>0.2[0] FEB 1.0>0[0] MAR 1.0>0[0] APR 0.7>0[0]

PD BOS-YTZ FEB 4>3[4] MAR 5>4[5]
PD EWR-YTZ JAN 9>8[9] FEB 9>8[9] MAR 10>9[11] APR 11>9[11]
PD IAD-YTZ JAN 1.8>1.1[1.9] FEB 1.6>0.8[1.6] MAR 1.9>1.3[2]
PD MDW-YTZ JAN 3>2[3] FEB 3>2[3] MAR 4>3[4]

*SS EWR-ORY JUN 0>0.6[0]

SY MSP-MSY FEB 0.6>0.3[0.3] MAR 0.6>0.3[0.3]

TK IST-LAX JUN 1.0>1.3[1.0]

UA BDL-ORD FEB 2>3[3]
UA BUF-ORD FEB 2>3[3]
UA CGI-ORD DEC 0.9>1.6[0.8] FEB 1.3>1.7[0.9] MAR 0.9>1.7[0.8] APR 0.9>1.7[0.9] MAY 0.8>1.7[0.9] JUN 0.9>1.7[0.8]
UA CGI-PAH DEC 1.9>0.2[0] JAN 0.3>0[1.5] FEB 1.1>0[1.9] MAR 1.9>0[1.8] APR 1.9>0[1.9] MAY 1.8>0[1.9] JUN 1.9>0[1.8]
UA CMH-IAH NOV 4>3[4]
UA EAR-ORD DEC 0>0.9[0] JAN 0>1.0[0] FEB 0>1.0[0] MAR 0>1.0[0] APR 0>1.0[0] MAY 0>1.0[0] JUN 0>1.0[0]
UA IAD-LWB FEB 0.4>0[0.7] MAR 0.7>0.5[0.7]
UA IAD-OGS DEC 0.7>1.0[0] JAN 0.7>1.0[0] MAR 0.7>0.9[0]
UA IAD-SHD DEC 1.0>1.9[1.0] FEB 1.3>2[1.0] MAR 0.8>2[1.0] APR 0.9>2[1.0] MAY 0.8>2[1.0] JUN 0.9>2[1.0]
UA IAH-ICT NOV 5>4[4]
UA IAH-PHL NOV 4>3[4]
UA IAH-PNS NOV 6>5[4]
UA IAH-SLC NOV 4>3[4]
UA MCI-SFO DEC 1.8>1.4[3]
UA OGS-ORD DEC 1.0>0.7[0] JAN 1.0>0.7[0] FEB 1.0>0.7[0] MAR 1.0>0.7[0] APR 1.0>0.7[0] MAY 1.0>0.7[0.7] JUN 1.0>0.7[0.7]
UA ORD-PVD FEB 1.0>1.6[1.5]
UA OTH-SFO JAN 1.0>0.8[1.0]

X4 CGA-KLW OCT 0>0.4[0] NOV 0>0.4[0] DEC 0>0.4[0] JAN 0>0.4[0] FEB 0>0.4[0] MAR 0>0.4[0] APR 0>0.4[0] MAY 0>0.4[0] JUN 0>0.4[0]
X4 CGA-KTB OCT 0>0.4[0] NOV 0>0.4[0] DEC 0>0.4[0] JAN 0>0.4[0] FEB 0>0.4[0] MAR 0>0.4[0] APR 0>0.4[0] MAY 0>0.4[0] JUN 0>0.4[0]
X4 CGA-KTN OCT 0>0.4[0] NOV 0>0.4[0] DEC 0>0.4[0] JAN 0>0.4[0] FEB 0>0.4[0] MAR 0>0.4[0] APR 0>0.4[0] MAY 0>0.4[0] JUN 0>0.4[0]
X4 HYG-KTN OCT 0>0.4[0] NOV 0>0.4[0] DEC 0>0.4[0] JAN 0>0.5[0] FEB 0>0.4[0] MAR 0>0.4[0] APR 0>0.4[0] MAY 0>0.4[0] JUN 0>0.4[0]
X4 KCC-KTN OCT 0>0.2[0] NOV 0>0.2[0] DEC 0>0.2[0] JAN 0>0.2[0] FEB 0>0.2[0] MAR 0>0.2[0] APR 0>0.2[0] MAY 0>0.2[0] JUN 0>0.2[0]
X4 KTB-KTN OCT 0>0.4[0] NOV 0>0.4[0] DEC 0>0.4[0] JAN 0>0.4[0] FEB 0>0.4[0] MAR 0>0.4[0] APR 0>0.4[0] MAY 0>0.4[0] JUN 0>0.4[0]
X4 KTN-MTM OCT 0>1.7[0] NOV 0>1.7[0] DEC 0>1.7[0] JAN 0>1.7[0] FEB 0>1.7[0] MAR 0>1.7[0] APR 0>1.7[0] MAY 0>1.7[0] JUN 0>1.7[0]
 
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Re: OAG Changes 9/22/2019:Big F9 Changes (?);HU Exits LAS-PEK

Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:59 pm

enilria wrote:

UA CGI-ORD DEC 0.9>1.6[0.8] FEB 1.3>1.7[0.9] MAR 0.9>1.7[0.8] APR 0.9>1.7[0.9] MAY 0.8>1.7[0.9] JUN 0.9>1.7[0.8]
UA CGI-PAH DEC 1.9>0.2[0] JAN 0.3>0[1.5] FEB 1.1>0[1.9] MAR 1.9>0[1.8] APR 1.9>0[1.9] MAY 1.8>0[1.9] JUN 1.9>0[1.8]


This is an update now to the schedule...

Effective December 4th, CGI-PAH will cease to exist, and CGI-ORD will increase to 2 daily non stop. No more CGI-PAH through flights.

PAH-ORD will remain the same at 2 daily, just lose the 3rd flight which was a flight to CGI anyway.

Alex
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Re: OAG Changes 9/22/2019:Big F9 Changes (?);HU Exits LAS-PEK

Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:57 am

Wow, SBP going up to twice daily to Dallas using ERJ 175s. Never thought I'd see the day.

Wonder when (not if so much anymore) United starts flying SBP to ORD. It would be a very popular route for locals connecting, and a great escape for those from the Midwest visiting the Central Coast.

I really think SBP-ORD could be a popular and profitable route for United. If SBP DFW can go 2x daily, certainly 1x daily to ORD would be viable.

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