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Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:44 pm

From their Facebook page an hour ago
This is a particularly moving moment for us, as it is also time to say goodbye to our last two Airbus aircrafts. ✈️ ✈️
The A 340-300 has been flying with us since the creation of #AirTahitiNui. An important chapter of our history is closing with the departures of the F-OJGF and F-OSEA as they will make their last flight from Papeete on September 24th.


Those planes are named Mangareva and Rangiroa. Flew on Rangiroa a few years ago from PPT to LAX.
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:47 pm

Sad to see them go, not many four-holers left, but times are changing. I recall spotting at LAX and seeing so many of their 340s coming and going that we joked LAX was one of their hubs.
 
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:12 pm

Do we know their eventual fates? Like do we know if they're going to another operator, or is it the scrapyard for them?
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:13 pm

Retirements are well overdue. Aircraft were quite problematic towards the end even having simultaneous AOG situations.
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:05 am

mercure1 wrote:
Retirements are well overdue. Aircraft were quite problematic towards the end even having simultaneous AOG situations.

Do you have hard data? Or is it just a generalization?
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:12 am

filipinoavgeek wrote:
Do we know their eventual fates? Like do we know if they're going to another operator, or is it the scrapyard for them?

I won't be surprised if some of them ended up in Iran through some obscure countries. They are in desperate need of fleet renewal, could use some lift from older frames.
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:15 am

WayexTDI wrote:
Do you have hard data? Or is it just a generalization?


Yes have first-hand knowledge. I am part-time resident in FP. Well known how unreliable TN has become with A340. Island ran out of hotel rooms not too long ago when 2 A340s broke simultaneously.
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:23 am

Awwww... Not an Airbus fan but the retirement of a 4-holer is too bad. The A340 does look good.
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:33 am

Even though the 787 is a stunner, I will miss the good old 4-holer at LAX.
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:57 am

Anyone know what time they depart tomorrow?
 
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:26 am

18 years isn’t that old, but these were some of the later build A340-300s.
 
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:19 am

Wow, time flies. I remember being in Papeete in September 2001 watching the brand-new A340s doing touch and go's just before they launched service.
 
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:09 am

The best thing about the A340 (vs the 777) was that it sold to smaller airlines like these - Air Tahiti Nui, SriLankan Airlines, Azerbaijan Airlines, Air Mauritius, etc.

In Air Tahiti Nui's case, it helped them launch operations to begin with.
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:14 am

Surprising they operated those gas guzzlers for so long. Also surprising that they are flying 787-9 and not A350-900.
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:46 am

jfk777 wrote:
Surprising they operated those gas guzzlers for so long. Also surprising that they are flying 787-9 and not A350-900.


They were bought and paid for which helped.

Rather than the A350-900, I'm surprised they didn't go for the A330-900NEO.
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:59 am

jfk777 wrote:
Surprising they operated those gas guzzlers for so long. Also surprising that they are flying 787-9 and not A350-900.

It was a bit of a surprise. I suspect Airbus was a bit too overconfident about their chances of getting the order since Air Tahiti Nui is owned by the government of a French overseas collective/country, and was a little too light on the discounting.
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:11 pm

The 2-4-2 on these planes fit the overwhelmingly honeymoon and anniversary crowd well. I imagine the 3-3-3 787 is resulting in many disappointed couples who can't sit next to each other.
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:49 pm

Saw one a few days ago in Auckland. By far the best looking aircraft around.

jfk777 wrote:
Surprising they operated those gas guzzlers for so long. Also surprising that they are flying 787-9 and not A350-900.


The A340-300 is not a gas guzzler.
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:35 pm

zkojq wrote:
Saw one a few days ago in Auckland. By far the best looking aircraft around.

jfk777 wrote:
Surprising they operated those gas guzzlers for so long. Also surprising that they are flying 787-9 and not A350-900.


The A340-300 is not a gas guzzler.

I agree. I think it was Zeke who posted some comparison data. AFAIK, A343 was burning about 5-6% more than A333 with the same weight.
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:47 pm

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Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:00 pm

drdisque wrote:
The 2-4-2 on these planes fit the overwhelmingly honeymoon and anniversary crowd well. I imagine the 3-3-3 787 is resulting in many disappointed couples who can't sit next to each other.



What in the world are you talking about?
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:48 pm

zkojq wrote:
Saw one a few days ago in Auckland. By far the best looking aircraft around.

jfk777 wrote:
Surprising they operated those gas guzzlers for so long. Also surprising that they are flying 787-9 and not A350-900.


The A340-300 is not a gas guzzler.


No? What was it that caused death by 777 for the 340-200/300/500/600, then?
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:56 pm

BlatantEcho wrote:
drdisque wrote:
The 2-4-2 on these planes fit the overwhelmingly honeymoon and anniversary crowd well. I imagine the 3-3-3 787 is resulting in many disappointed couples who can't sit next to each other.



What in the world are you talking about?


I am assuming this was written because a couple could have the window and aisle, another couple get the aisle and middle, another couple get the middle and aisle, and a fourth couple get the other aisle and window. I am assuming (big assumption, I have never been there and never seen any data) most visitors to French Polynesia are couples.
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:12 pm

Keep calm and wash your hands.
 
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:24 pm

SeaDoo wrote:
BlatantEcho wrote:
drdisque wrote:
The 2-4-2 on these planes fit the overwhelmingly honeymoon and anniversary crowd well. I imagine the 3-3-3 787 is resulting in many disappointed couples who can't sit next to each other.



What in the world are you talking about?


I am assuming this was written because a couple could have the window and aisle, another couple get the aisle and middle, another couple get the middle and aisle, and a fourth couple get the other aisle and window. I am assuming (big assumption, I have never been there and never seen any data) most visitors to French Polynesia are couples.


Yes, 2-4-2 you can nice and evenly fit 4 couples across the aircraft
3-3-3 you fit 3 couples and have 3 random seats.
When I went there our flights LAX-PPT (mid-October trip) both ways seemed like 80-90% couples.
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:36 pm

zkojq wrote:
Saw one a few days ago in Auckland. By far the best looking aircraft around.

jfk777 wrote:
Surprising they operated those gas guzzlers for so long. Also surprising that they are flying 787-9 and not A350-900.


The A340-300 is not a gas guzzler.


Agreed a fine bird and several of my all time favorite flights were on this bird. Quiet, great sound on takeoff and terrific long haul flying. Will be missed.
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:40 pm

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Great video, thanks for sharing!
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:53 pm

BlatantEcho wrote:
drdisque wrote:
The 2-4-2 on these planes fit the overwhelmingly honeymoon and anniversary crowd well. I imagine the 3-3-3 787 is resulting in many disappointed couples who can't sit next to each other.

What in the world are you talking about?

Are you joking? Don’t you see the advantages of 2-4-2 seating for couples compared to 3-3-3 seating?

Personally I actively book away from aircraft with 3-3-3 economy class seating. Effectively this means travelling by A330, A340 or B767.

I am sure many people will be disappointed by the seating plan of the B787.
 
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:12 pm

MartijnNL wrote:
BlatantEcho wrote:
drdisque wrote:
The 2-4-2 on these planes fit the overwhelmingly honeymoon and anniversary crowd well. I imagine the 3-3-3 787 is resulting in many disappointed couples who can't sit next to each other.

What in the world are you talking about?

Are you joking? Don’t you see the advantages of 2-4-2 seating for couples compared to 3-3-3 seating?

Personally I actively book away from aircraft with 3-3-3 economy class seating. Effectively this means travelling by A330, A340 or B767.

I am sure many people will be disappointed by the seating plan of the B787.


drdisque wrote:
SeaDoo wrote:
BlatantEcho wrote:


What in the world are you talking about?


I am assuming this was written because a couple could have the window and aisle, another couple get the aisle and middle, another couple get the middle and aisle, and a fourth couple get the other aisle and window. I am assuming (big assumption, I have never been there and never seen any data) most visitors to French Polynesia are couples.


Yes, 2-4-2 you can nice and evenly fit 4 couples across the aircraft
3-3-3 you fit 3 couples and have 3 random seats.
When I went there our flights LAX-PPT (mid-October trip) both ways seemed like 80-90% couples.

What about couples with 1 kid? They'll feel perfectly at home in the 787.

Both seating configurations have pluses and minuses; you shouldn't make generalizations.
 
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:36 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
zkojq wrote:
Saw one a few days ago in Auckland. By far the best looking aircraft around.

jfk777 wrote:
Surprising they operated those gas guzzlers for so long. Also surprising that they are flying 787-9 and not A350-900.


The A340-300 is not a gas guzzler.


No? What was it that caused death by 777 for the 340-200/300/500/600, then?

The 342/343 were not killed by the 777. The 343 competed respectably with the 777. In fact, the 343 and 772 were both killed by the 333, which has outsold both of them. The difference in sales between the 345 and 77L is tiny. They both sold under 100 frames. The only 340 variant that was truly "killed" by the 777 is the 346 with respect to the 77W.
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:21 pm

drdisque wrote:
SeaDoo wrote:

Yes, 2-4-2 you can nice and evenly fit 4 couples across the aircraft
3-3-3 you fit 3 couples and have 3 random seats.
When I went there our flights LAX-PPT (mid-October trip) both ways seemed like 80-90% couples.



I can’t tell if you are just trolling everyone or trying to be serious with an absurdity like this.

If you could show a single data point in the entire world that reflected ANY single correlation whatsoever with any single customer booking a 2-4-2 plane as a couple over a 3-3-3 plane as a couple....

Well, you won’t find any data so I won’t wager anything with you.

This is an utter non-sequitor at best.
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:27 pm

zkojq wrote:
The A340-300 is not a gas guzzler.

MIflyer wrote:
No? What was it that caused death by 777 for the 340-200/300/500/600, then?

OA412 wrote:
The 342/343 were not killed by the 777. The 343 competed respectably with the 777. In fact, the 343 and 772 were both killed by the 333, which has outsold both of them. The difference in sales between the 345 and 77L is tiny. They both sold under 100 frames. The only 340 variant that was truly "killed" by the 777 is the 346 with respect to the 77W.

Thank you zkojq and OA412.

Indeed, the A340-300 is not a gas guzzler and it was not killed by the 777.
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:35 pm

I never claimed there would be book-away due to the seating arrangements on the 787. I just said that a lot of passengers would be unhappy.

When I was in French Polynesia, I saw 0 tourist kids.

I agree that's just my personal observation, but like I can't find any evidence to prove that the majority of tourists to French Polynesia are couples, you likewise have no evidence that that is not true. However, unlike you, I have actually been to French Polynesia so I have my own personal experience.
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:47 pm

MartijnNL wrote:
BlatantEcho wrote:
drdisque wrote:
The 2-4-2 on these planes fit the overwhelmingly honeymoon and anniversary crowd well. I imagine the 3-3-3 787 is resulting in many disappointed couples who can't sit next to each other.

What in the world are you talking about?



I am sure many people will be disappointed by the seating plan of the B787.


This is just so funny.... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Do people actually think people give a flying f*ck about this except for an extremely small percentage of people?
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:50 pm

BlatantEcho wrote:
If you could show a single data point in the entire world that reflected ANY single correlation whatsoever with any single customer booking a 2-4-2 plane as a couple over a 3-3-3 plane as a couple....

Maybe nobody collects this kind of data? But that doesn’t mean the correlation isn’t there. My father and I have travelled long haul together four times in recent years. We specifically booked all eight flights on aircraft with 2-3-2 or 2-4-2 seating so we could sit together without a third person in our row. We stayed away from 777’s and 787’s (the latter also because of the crew override option on the dimmable windows).

My brother and I did the same. We also did eight long haul flights together and they were all purposely booked on aircraft with 2-4-2 seating. Should I talk about the flights I took with my wife as a real couple? All on the A330. Because of the 2-4-2 seating. Does this count as any single correlation for you?

Data or no data, I am sure many couples will be disappointed by 3-3-3 seating.
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:10 pm

MartijnNL wrote:
Data or no data, I am sure many couples will be disappointed by 3-3-3 seating.


Well, then. They must be disappointed by the 3-3-3 on some of the A333's and 3-4-3 on the A350s. French Bee comes to mind. My only point here is that 3-3-3 is the norm on the A350, so it's not as though they'd be any happier on an A350, other than it being a tad wider. I'll admit though, that 3-3-3 is worse on a 787 than a 777, and 3-4-3 on an A350 is just plain wrong.

The one I really miss is the 767s with 2-3-2 and the 2-5-2 on the 777. One 1 in 9 got shafted with that arrangement.
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:11 pm

KPDX wrote:
MartijnNL wrote:
I am sure many people will be disappointed by the seating plan of the B787.

This is just so funny.... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Do people actually think people give a flying f*ck about this except for an extremely small percentage of people?

We are talking here about couples going on honeymoon. They for sure will prefer a row with two seats instead of three.

Personally I don’t like the seating plan of most 777’s and 787’s. Not when I am travelling alone, not when I am travelling together with a partner.
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:46 pm

MartijnNL wrote:
KPDX wrote:
MartijnNL wrote:
I am sure many people will be disappointed by the seating plan of the B787.

This is just so funny.... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Do people actually think people give a flying f*ck about this except for an extremely small percentage of people?

We are talking here about couples going on honeymoon. They for sure will prefer a row with two seats instead of three.

Personally I don’t like the seating plan of most 777’s and 787’s. Not when I am travelling alone, not when I am travelling together with a partner.

Sure, some may prefer 2 seats instead of 3.
However most outside of A.net don't have the slightest clue about aircraft configurations etc. They just know that they are flying from A to B, some times via C. What matters to people is the price of the ticket. And if they really want to sit together with just 2 seats, they can fly Moana Premium.
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+1 for 2-4-2, no one really wants 3-3-3. If it were up to me I'd bring back the 763, just for the 2-3-2 in Y -- OMG!
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:52 pm

SASViking wrote:
MartijnNL wrote:
KPDX wrote:
This is just so funny.... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Do people actually think people give a flying f*ck about this except for an extremely small percentage of people?

We are talking here about couples going on honeymoon. They for sure will prefer a row with two seats instead of three.

Personally I don’t like the seating plan of most 777’s and 787’s. Not when I am travelling alone, not when I am travelling together with a partner.

Sure, some may prefer 2 seats instead of 3.
However most outside of A.net don't have the slightest clue about aircraft configurations etc. They just know that they are flying from A to B, some times via C. What matters to people is the price of the ticket. And if they really want to sit together with just 2 seats, they can fly Moana Premium.

Out of curiosity, how many will have checked the seating plan before booking the vacation package? 2%? 3%?

It is all good for us aviation geeks to care, what matters is impact to revenue. I fly myself and 2 kids, probably not their typical customer.

If things were so bad, the 777 and 787 wouldn't be too selling widebodies. Air Tahiti made the best deal they could.

How many here complaining might buy a ticket to Tahiti? How many of those who vacation or fly to/from Tahiti will change their destination or airline due to this change. Last I looked, Air New Zealand and Hawaiian have 787s on order. There might be no choice but the 787 soon. If there is a choice, no complaining until the fare Delta paid is real.

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Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:53 pm

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WayexTDI wrote:
Do you have hard data? Or is it just a generalization?


Yes have first-hand knowledge. I am part-time resident in FP. Well known how unreliable TN has become with A340. Island ran out of hotel rooms not too long ago when 2 A340s broke simultaneously.



For tourists that could almost be an advantage 'Our older planes may experience problems when departing.. stranding you here, in Tahiti.'

Yeah, Boss, the plane broke down, looks like i'm stuck here for a couple more days... no really, it's on their website.
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:54 pm

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I never claimed there would be book-away due to the seating arrangements on the 787. I just said that a lot of passengers would be unhappy.

When I was in French Polynesia, I saw 0 tourist kids.

I agree that's just my personal observation, but like I can't find any evidence to prove that the majority of tourists to French Polynesia are couples, you likewise have no evidence that that is not true. However, unlike you, I have actually been to French Polynesia so I have my own personal experience.


You made an insane assertion, with no data to back it up, and now you’re backpedaling and saying ‘Well... I saw some people who were couples, and my dad’s brother’s sisters best friend once guessed a 747 wasn’t the same as a DC-10.

Come on man. You’re trying to diss the 787 since it is replacing the A340. And you’re doing a terrible job.

You can look at my Flickr below to figure out how much time I’ve spent in the South Pacific....

Oh, and I don’t fly long haul in Y, so I kinda don’t care. And in June I’m going to PPT solo. Unless that is illegal, or not allowed?

People making baseless claims is a pet peeve of mine here.
Why say something like that to try to subtly get a dig at an inanimate object?
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:58 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Surprising they operated those gas guzzlers for so long.

Swiss have recently invested 90 million EUR to keep their five remaining A340’s in the air for years to come.
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:15 pm

KPDX wrote:
MartijnNL wrote:
BlatantEcho wrote:
What in the world are you talking about?



I am sure many people will be disappointed by the seating plan of the B787.


This is just so funny.... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Do people actually think people give a flying f*ck about this except for an extremely small percentage of people?



Yes I give a flying.....My wife and I travel the world and prefer a two seat row on a wide body When we fly in 748, 772 or 773 and not flying biz or first we book within the last few rows that have two seats setups.
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:17 pm

drdisque wrote:
When I was in French Polynesia, I saw 0 tourist kids.

When I was in French Polynesia 20 years ago, I was a tourist kid.

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Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:33 pm

BlatantEcho wrote:
drdisque wrote:
I never claimed there would be book-away due to the seating arrangements on the 787. I just said that a lot of passengers would be unhappy.

You made an insane assertion, with no data to back it up, and now you’re backpedaling (...)

He said a lot of passengers would be unhappy going from two seats in a row to three. Why is that an insane assertion? To me that sounds perfect legitimate.

What data would you like to see? Flight reviews of thousands of passengers asked if they prefer 2-4-2 seating over 3-3-3? Maybe Air Tahiti should question their passengers? People select flights primarily based on destination, price and schedule (at least that is what I believe; I don’t have any data to back this up). But I am sure most of them would prefer a row of two instead of three.

BlatantEcho wrote:
Come on man. You’re trying to diss the 787 since it is replacing the A340. And you’re doing a terrible job.

Again, he is only saying a lot of passengers prefer 2-4-2 seating over 3-3-3. I don’t blame him for making that claim.
 
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:49 pm

lightsaber wrote:
Out of curiosity, how many will have checked the seating plan before booking the vacation package? 2%? 3%?

It is all good for us aviation geeks to care, what matters is impact to revenue.

Impact to revenue matters for airlines, not for passengers. They will fly whatever aircraft airlines operate. But they will find some aircraft cabins more pleasant than others. I am sure even non aviation geeks travelling together will prefer 2-4-2 seating over 3-3-3.

lightsaber wrote:
If things were so bad, the 777 and 787 wouldn't be too selling widebodies. Air Tahiti made the best deal they could.

The 777 and 787 selling well has nothing to do with seating configurations. Air Tahiti might have made the best deal they could, a lot of their passengers will lose out on seating comfort.
 
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:17 pm

Tragic to see those sleek 4 holers leave. The Airbus 340 is the most stunning aircraft. Sad that Air Tahiti Nui choose the Boeing 787 instead of the Airbus 350.
 
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:21 pm

BlatantEcho wrote:
drdisque wrote:
SeaDoo wrote:

Yes, 2-4-2 you can nice and evenly fit 4 couples across the aircraft
3-3-3 you fit 3 couples and have 3 random seats.
When I went there our flights LAX-PPT (mid-October trip) both ways seemed like 80-90% couples.



I can’t tell if you are just trolling everyone or trying to be serious with an absurdity like this.

If you could show a single data point in the entire world that reflected ANY single correlation whatsoever with any single customer booking a 2-4-2 plane as a couple over a 3-3-3 plane as a couple....

Well, you won’t find any data so I won’t wager anything with you.

This is an utter non-sequitor at best.

I went out of my way for years to fly on UA 767s when possible with the 2-4-2 seating. I know many, many people who did similar like choosing ANA 787s from SJC over 77Ws from SFO when they used to have 2 seats by the window. I think the fact that you assume most couples and traveling partners need a 3rd seat is much more of a stretch than saying 2 seats for 2 people is a plus.
 
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Re: Goodbye Tahiti- 343's leave 24 Sept

Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:36 pm

I swear this is the only place in the world you hear people cry about 0.5-1“ of space. I’ve flown in all these configurations and look, Economy is Economy if you wanted a true change in comfort, pay up.

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