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And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:51 pm

OK, till now, I have only seen one single source, no other news. Can someone please verify if one of both A220-300 of Air Tanzania has stopped flying since yesterday?

AIRBUS A223’S ENGINE FAILURE PROMPTS RETURN OF FLIGHT TC123 TO MWANZA

(Posted 27th September 2019)

Air Tanzania’s flight TC 123 from Mwanza to Dar es Salaam yesterday suffered an engine failure not long after taking off from the lakeside city.
The aircraft had reached an altitude of just over 7.500 feet when the engine failed and the pilots decided to immediately return to their airport of origin as the nearest point of landing.
The aircraft landed safely but will have to remain on the ground for an engine change.


https://atcnews.org/2019/09/27/air-tanzanias-airbus-a220-suffers-engine-failure/?fbclid=IwAR0J3_KCpZvUn9GQ87nIYoXfryRHel7iwNm0lISiD0_woNN_tRFdKTqLRvg
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:32 pm

If the engine failed it's probable.
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:54 pm

That's not good, PW had enough issues with the A32X type (core freezing in mid flight).
Hope it'll be solved like in the RR Trent 800 FOH exchanger fix, based on what's written.
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:32 pm

TC123 MWZ to DAR 9/25/19 Airbus A220-300, Reg. No. 5H-TCH, Delivered Dec. 2018, 2 X PW 1524G Engines

The original post links to a news article which notes an engine failure at 7,500’ and immediate return to MWZ. But there is no flight data (from FRadar24) which indicates any issues at 7,500’. Instead, the issue and turnback occurred in cruise at FL370.
F’Radar24 data for this flight:
14:42:42 Z FL370 457 Kn GS 123 Deg. Hdg. At CRZ
14:43:45 Z FL370 429 Kn GS 123 Deg. Hdg. At CRZ
14:44:47 Z FL370 395 Kn GS 123 Deg. Hdg. At CRZ
14:46:17Z FL357 391 Kn GS 173 Deg. Hdg., Heading Back to MWZ In Descent

Seems like could be a possible (another) PW 1524G engine forced shutdown or sudden failure (the linked news article specifically says “suffered an engine failure”), for whatever root cause. Don’t see anything on this incident in AvH though??
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:22 am

So the tally for the year is 1 for Korean, 2 for Swiss and 1 for Air Tanzania? That is 4 out of 83 planes in service. That is a rate of about 1 in 20,000 flights. That is likely worse than the ETOPS requirement of 1 in 100,000 engine hours.

I fail to see why the A220 was able to get ETOPS 180 approval with that type of In Flight Shutdown Rate.
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:37 am

Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
So the tally for the year is 1 for Korean, 2 for Swiss and 1 for Air Tanzania? That is 4 out of 83 planes in service. That is a rate of about 1 in 20,000 flights. That is likely worse than the ETOPS requirement of 1 in 100,000 engine hours.

I fail to see why the A220 was able to get ETOPS 180 approval with that type of In Flight Shutdown Rate.


It might end up getting yanked. As for how it got approved, same with any other aircraft- best decisions with the information at the time. Fortunately, these issues are only causing diversions and no loss of life.
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:17 am

Antarius wrote:
Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
So the tally for the year is 1 for Korean, 2 for Swiss and 1 for Air Tanzania? That is 4 out of 83 planes in service. That is a rate of about 1 in 20,000 flights. That is likely worse than the ETOPS requirement of 1 in 100,000 engine hours.

I fail to see why the A220 was able to get ETOPS 180 approval with that type of In Flight Shutdown Rate.


It might end up getting yanked. As for how it got approved, same with any other aircraft- best decisions with the information at the time. Fortunately, these issues are only causing diversions and no loss of life.


Still I have not seen any additional source, confirming a jet engine failure. It is confirmed, the A220 has returned to the airport. I am surprised, still not to see a second source.

If it was the next engine failure, than there will not only an issue with the ETOPS 180 min certification, additional there will be problems with the scheduled MTOW increase for the A220-300 version (less for the A220-100). As heavier the jet get, as more power is needed (or the same maximum power for prolonged time), as higher is the stress, as faster the engine will pop. I am not surprised, there is till now no inflight engine shut down for the A220-100 (or the E2 family, also only few are flying). Less weight, less power, smaller member of the engine subfamily, less stress.

And I have also my doubts, the PW1500G family has reached the maximum, for the putative A220-500, a new/bigger in size engine family will have to be chosen? Of course, with all disadvantages?

If it was the next engine failure; I am still waiting for a second independent confirmation.

PW has to get to fix the jet engines failures fast/ASAP. The increasing numbers of confirmed failures (and this new one) is not any more funny.
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:24 am

Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
So the tally for the year is 1 for Korean, 2 for Swiss and 1 for Air Tanzania? That is 4 out of 83 planes in service. That is a rate of about 1 in 20,000 flights. That is likely worse than the ETOPS requirement of 1 in 100,000 engine hours.

I fail to see why the A220 was able to get ETOPS 180 approval with that type of In Flight Shutdown Rate.


But doesn't it depend on the causes of the failures? Do for example foreign object damage and maintenance errors count?
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:14 pm

planewasted wrote:
Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
So the tally for the year is 1 for Korean, 2 for Swiss and 1 for Air Tanzania? That is 4 out of 83 planes in service. That is a rate of about 1 in 20,000 flights. That is likely worse than the ETOPS requirement of 1 in 100,000 engine hours.

I fail to see why the A220 was able to get ETOPS 180 approval with that type of In Flight Shutdown Rate.


But doesn't it depend on the causes of the failures? Do for example foreign object damage and maintenance errors count?


The regulations require all unplanned shutdowns get reported.

Here is the regulation:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/21.4

I suspect that there is a high probability that ETOPS 180 approval will get rescinded based on the number of in flight shutdowns.
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:18 pm

Here is the ETOPS requirement

World fleet IFSD rate for two-engine airplanes. The holder of a type certificate for an airplane approved for ETOPS and the holder of a type certificate for an engine installed on an airplane approved for ETOPS must issue service information to the operators of those airplanes and engines, as appropriate, to maintain the world fleet 12-month rolling average IFSD rate at or below the following levels:

(i) A rate of 0.05 per 1,000 world-fleet engine-hours for an airplane-engine combination approved for up to and including 120-minute ETOPS. When all ETOPS operators have complied with the corrective actions required in the configuration, maintenance and procedures (CMP) document as a condition for ETOPS approval, the rate to be maintained is at or below 0.02 per 1,000 world-fleet engine-hours.

(ii) A rate of 0.02 per 1,000 world-fleet engine-hours for an airplane-engine combination approved for up to and including 180-minute ETOPS, including airplane-engine combinations approved for 207-minute ETOPS in the North Pacific operating area under appendix P, section I, paragraph (h), of part 121 of this chapter.


https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/21.4

I don’t know how many engine hours have been flown in the last 12 months. 83 airplanes (with a third delivered in the last year) likely won’t achieve enough hours to be under the limit with 4 in flight shutdowns.
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:50 pm

Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
[quote="planewasted"
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The regulations require all unplanned shutdowns get reported.
...[/quote][/quote]


"unplanned" shutdown?

Is there a planned in-flight shutdown?
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:36 pm

Although the airframe/engine combination has achieved ETOPS certification, has any airline been approved to operate this combination in service?

Rest assured, tbe IFSD rates are watched very closely, as are the shop reports from the teardown inspections on individual engines. It is a shame that PW isn't more forthcoming with statistics....number of flights flown, flight hours, time between shop visits, and IFSD's. Its gonna be hard for them to match CFM56 reliability.
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:42 pm

VV wrote:
Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
[quote="planewasted"
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The regulations require all unplanned shutdowns get reported.
...[/quote][/quote][/quote]

"unplanned" shutdown?

Is there a planned in-flight shutdown?[/quote]


Sometimes for engine out training or for test flights. Never on a regularly scheduled flight.
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:31 am

Is there any further information on Air Tanzania's engine failure?

The article mentioned in the initial post says,
QUOTE
  • Air Tanzania’s flight TC 123 from Mwanza to Dar es Salaam yesterday suffered an engine failure not long after taking off from the lakeside city.
    The aircraft had reached an altitude of just over 7.500 feet when the engine failed and the pilots decided to immediately return to their airport of origin as the nearest point of landing.
UNQUOTE

It says "engine failure", but we do not know how it failed exactly.
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:46 am

The Swiss IFSD has resulted in an AD from the FAA for inspection. Will be interesting to see what happens out of this one.
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:20 pm

VV wrote:
Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
[quote="planewasted"
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The regulations require all unplanned shutdowns get reported.
...[/quote][/quote]

"unplanned" shutdown?

Is there a planned in-flight shutdown?[/quote]
I think the 727 used to shut down the middle engine to save fuel.
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:29 pm

Since 29-Sep-2019, the jet is back in the air.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/5h-tci

But still there is no second independent source. Today, Simpleflying has few h ago published the story; and again, only the same story, the same source. ACT News.
https://simpleflying.com/air-tanzania-a220-engine-shutdown/
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:00 pm

Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
So the tally for the year is 1 for Korean, 2 for Swiss and 1 for Air Tanzania? That is 4 out of 83 planes in service. That is a rate of about 1 in 20,000 flights. That is likely worse than the ETOPS requirement of 1 in 100,000 engine hours.

I fail to see why the A220 was able to get ETOPS 180 approval with that type of In Flight Shutdown Rate.

1 IFSD in 20,000 flights; to achieve less than 1 in 100,000 engine hours, the average flight would have to be at least 2.5 hours (2.5 airplane hours * 2 engines * 20,000 flights = 100,000 engine hours).
What's the average flight length for the A220?
 
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Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:32 am

WayexTDI wrote:
Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
So the tally for the year is 1 for Korean, 2 for Swiss and 1 for Air Tanzania? That is 4 out of 83 planes in service. That is a rate of about 1 in 20,000 flights. That is likely worse than the ETOPS requirement of 1 in 100,000 engine hours.

I fail to see why the A220 was able to get ETOPS 180 approval with that type of In Flight Shutdown Rate.

1 IFSD in 20,000 flights; to achieve less than 1 in 100,000 engine hours, the average flight would have to be at least 2.5 hours (2.5 airplane hours * 2 engines * 20,000 flights = 100,000 engine hours).
What's the average flight length for the A220?



I have seen the up to date numbers yesterday; by bad luck, the source is not in English, so use the google translator or something else.
https://aviaciondigital.com/el-airbus-a220-ya-cuenta-con-mas-de-310-000-ciclos/
So from the translator:
So far in 2019, the A220 has proven to be the most profitable aircraft in its class with more than 155,000 flights, covering more than 250 routes and reaching more than 150 destinations. So far, Airbus has registered more than 500 orders for this model by 20 airlines worldwide, and more than 80 aircraft have been delivered to date.


So the engines have already performed 310000 cycles. I do not know the average flight duration, pretty sure, it is more than one hour, even more than 2 h.

There are three confirmed engine failures, 1x Korean Air and 2x Swiss. I am still not willed, to state the Air Tanzania case as confirmed, as there is only one single source and case has been not independent confirmed by a second source.
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:21 am

VV wrote:
"unplanned" shutdown?

Is there a planned in-flight shutdown?

Multi-engine props sometimes shut down two engines on long endurance flights, e. g. the P-3C for naval reconaissance. Not practical for jets, though, as you can't feather the fan.
Also, the Trident had a small "booster" engine that would be shut down when not needed. I don't know of any other jet with this arrangement.
 
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Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:49 am

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I think the 727 used to shut down the middle engine to save fuel.


I’m guessing that was during very empty ferry flights. I seriously doubt any country’s regulations would permit that during passenger-carrying ops.

I do recall hearing stories of the DC-10s center engine being throttled down during cruise for that purpose, which caused a slight nose-up attitude that wreaked havoc on FAs with the carts rolling backwards constantly during meal service.
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:06 pm

How are the wings doing?
 
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Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:16 pm

RickNRoll wrote:
VV wrote:
Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
[quote="planewasted"
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The regulations require all unplanned shutdowns get reported.
...[/quote][/quote]

"unplanned" shutdown?

Is there a planned in-flight shutdown?[/quote][/quote][/quote] I think the 727 used to shut down the middle engine to save fuel.[/quote]



Its off topic here, but at least one airline did that. I was at Braniff in the late 1970's, and we traded our 707-227's to them for some 727-100's and the middle engines had substantially less time on them because they apparently did just that on some flights.
 
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Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:20 pm

T4thH wrote:
WayexTDI wrote:
Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
So the tally for the year is 1 for Korean, 2 for Swiss and 1 for Air Tanzania? That is 4 out of 83 planes in service. That is a rate of about 1 in 20,000 flights. That is likely worse than the ETOPS requirement of 1 in 100,000 engine hours.

I fail to see why the A220 was able to get ETOPS 180 approval with that type of In Flight Shutdown Rate.

1 IFSD in 20,000 flights; to achieve less than 1 in 100,000 engine hours, the average flight would have to be at least 2.5 hours (2.5 airplane hours * 2 engines * 20,000 flights = 100,000 engine hours).
What's the average flight length for the A220?



I have seen the up to date numbers yesterday; by bad luck, the source is not in English, so use the google translator or something else.
https://aviaciondigital.com/el-airbus-a220-ya-cuenta-con-mas-de-310-000-ciclos/
So from the translator:
So far in 2019, the A220 has proven to be the most profitable aircraft in its class with more than 155,000 flights, covering more than 250 routes and reaching more than 150 destinations. So far, Airbus has registered more than 500 orders for this model by 20 airlines worldwide, and more than 80 aircraft have been delivered to date.


So the engines have already performed 310000 cycles. I do not know the average flight duration, pretty sure, it is more than one hour, even more than 2 h.

There are three confirmed engine failures, 1x Korean Air and 2x Swiss. I am still not willed, to state the Air Tanzania case as confirmed, as there is only one single source and case has been not independent confirmed by a second source.


For ETOPS requirements, in flight shutdowns is what gets measured, not failures.
 
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Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:27 pm

superjeff wrote:


Its off topic here, but at least one airline did that. I was at Braniff in the late 1970's, and we traded our 707-227's to them for some 727-100's and the middle engines had substantially less time on them because they apparently did just that on some flights.


Be a lot more plausible that the middle engine was shutdown during taxi.
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Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:46 pm

Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
T4thH wrote:
WayexTDI wrote:
1 IFSD in 20,000 flights; to achieve less than 1 in 100,000 engine hours, the average flight would have to be at least 2.5 hours (2.5 airplane hours * 2 engines * 20,000 flights = 100,000 engine hours).
What's the average flight length for the A220?



I have seen the up to date numbers yesterday; by bad luck, the source is not in English, so use the google translator or something else.
https://aviaciondigital.com/el-airbus-a220-ya-cuenta-con-mas-de-310-000-ciclos/
So from the translator:
So far in 2019, the A220 has proven to be the most profitable aircraft in its class with more than 155,000 flights, covering more than 250 routes and reaching more than 150 destinations. So far, Airbus has registered more than 500 orders for this model by 20 airlines worldwide, and more than 80 aircraft have been delivered to date.


So the engines have already performed 310000 cycles. I do not know the average flight duration, pretty sure, it is more than one hour, even more than 2 h.

There are three confirmed engine failures, 1x Korean Air and 2x Swiss. I am still not willed, to state the Air Tanzania case as confirmed, as there is only one single source and case has been not independent confirmed by a second source.


For ETOPS requirements, in flight shutdowns is what gets measured, not failures.

In the A220 case, both numbers are identical. There were 3 engine failures/shutdowns and the not confirmed case with Air Tanzania.

As the A220 has now 155.000 cycles, so 310.000 engine cycles, average flight duration was not mentioned, but I expect around 2 h and more? ETOPS 180 minrules are still fulfilled of one shutdown a 20.000 engine cycles or 100.000 engine h, even if we count with four failures/shutdowns.,
 
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Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:51 pm

Why do you consider the A220 inflight shutdown for AirTanzania unconfirmed?

https://simpleflying.com/air-tanzania-a ... -shutdown/

The FAA has already issued an Airworthiness Directive for the A220 engine inspections. What we don’t know is if the Air Tanzania event is related to that issue or if it is a new issue
 
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Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:42 pm

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Why do you consider the A220 inflight shutdown for AirTanzania unconfirmed?

https://simpleflying.com/air-tanzania-a ... -shutdown/

The FAA has already issued an Airworthiness Directive for the A220 engine inspections. What we don’t know is if the Air Tanzania event is related to that issue or if it is a new issue


Please note, simpleflying is just using the original ACT-News story as only source. They have no new or independent information. ACT News is just one single guy. I am still waiting for a independent second source, best an statement by Air Tanzania, PW or Airbus or any other News-service, who has independent collected and verified some information.

If you verify the original ACT News in #1, you will recognize, that no sources are stated, from where he has the information, that it was an engine failure, that has forced the jet to return. No statements by passengers, crew, airport authorities or airline, he is just saying (or does he just believe that) it was an engine failure. Also possible in my opinion: the author has just seen on flightradar24, the jet has returned to the start airport, he does not know the reason and as "engine failures are just now common for A220", even FAA warning is announced days before, "it must have been the next engine failure", what else????.", Who knows, it can be also be an issue with instruments, avionic, hydraulic e.g., perhaps the pilot was so stupid to pull a can full of coke over the cockpit instruments, or a passenger got a heart attack. The jet was parked for three days and than back in the air, so three days for repair? This also can be for spend time for additional checks regarding a landing above maximum landing weight e.g.

This is the reason, why I am still asking for an independent second source, regular/daily verifying, if I am able to find an additional one e.g. (and I have started this thread).
In my opinion, this inflight engine failure/shut down is still to be stated as unconfirmed,
 
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Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:59 pm

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RickNRoll wrote:
I think the 727 used to shut down the middle engine to save fuel.

I do recall hearing stories of the DC-10s center engine being throttled down during cruise for that purpose, which caused a slight nose-up attitude that wreaked havoc on FAs with the carts rolling backwards constantly during meal service.


I'm calling BS on that one.
Nose up flight will generate more lift and can only be sustained with continuous climb or (much) lower air speed. Which does not seem practical or even possible at cruise levels.
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PW100 wrote:
DarthLobster wrote:
RickNRoll wrote:
I think the 727 used to shut down the middle engine to save fuel.

I do recall hearing stories of the DC-10s center engine being throttled down during cruise for that purpose, which caused a slight nose-up attitude that wreaked havoc on FAs with the carts rolling backwards constantly during meal service.


I'm calling BS on that one.
Nose up flight will generate more lift and can only be sustained with continuous climb or (much) lower air speed. Which does not seem practical or even possible at cruise levels.

1 engine throttle back = less thrust = less speed = higher (even if very small) AOA to compensate.
 
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Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:32 pm

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... i#225ddb98 As of approximately 30 minutes ago, sister ship 5T-TCI had completed 8 flights for the day. Any word on how -TCH is doing?
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Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:56 pm

PW100 wrote:
DarthLobster wrote:
RickNRoll wrote:
I think the 727 used to shut down the middle engine to save fuel.

I do recall hearing stories of the DC-10s center engine being throttled down during cruise for that purpose, which caused a slight nose-up attitude that wreaked havoc on FAs with the carts rolling backwards constantly during meal service.


I'm calling BS on that one.
Nose up flight will generate more lift and can only be sustained with continuous climb or (much) lower air speed. Which does not seem practical or even possible at cruise levels.


My friend’s mom used to work the DC-10 as a flight attendant for UA and said it generally always flew with a nose up pitch. They hated pushing the carts up the isle.
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I am still waiting for a independent second source, best an statement by Air Tanzania, PW or Airbus or any other News-service...


The last thing the manufacturers and airlines want to do is shout to whoever will listen about their "sub-standard" performing engine. It's ever about spin, literally and metaphorically.
 
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Since 29-Sep-2019, the jet is back in the air.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/5h-tci

But still there is no second independent source. Today, Simpleflying has few h ago published the story; and again, only the same story, the same source. ACT News.
https://simpleflying.com/air-tanzania-a220-engine-shutdown/


Avherald indicated it was 5H-TCH and was on the ground 90 hours after the flight.

It would appear that aircraft averaged 3 flights a day last month.
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:18 pm

zeke wrote:
T4thH wrote:
Since 29-Sep-2019, the jet is back in the air.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/5h-tci

But still there is no second independent source. Today, Simpleflying has few h ago published the story; and again, only the same story, the same source. ACT News.
https://simpleflying.com/air-tanzania-a220-engine-shutdown/


Avherald indicated it was 5H-TCH and was on the ground 90 hours after the flight.

It would appear that aircraft averaged 3 flights a day last month.


Thanks Zeke. That is a pretty good sign
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:57 pm

http://avherald.com/h?article=4cd75b18&opt=768
Incident: Tanzania BCS3 near Mwanza on Sep 25th 2019, engine shut down in flight

By Simon Hradecky, created Monday, Sep 30th 2019 22:35Z, last updated Monday, Sep 30th 2019 22:35Z

An Air Tanzania Bombardier C-Series CS-300, registration 5H-TCH performing flight TC-123 from Mwanza to Dar es Salaam (Tanzania), was enroute at FL370 about 160nm southeast of Mwanza when the crew needed to shut an engine (PW1524G) down. The aircraft drifted down and returned to Mwanza for a safe landing about 70 minutes after departure.

A passenger reported there had been a sudden engine failure on their flight TC-123 of Sep 25th 2019 (local media claimed the engine failure happened on Sep 26th 2019 while climbing through 7500 feet resulting in an immediate return to Mwanza but showing a radar plot of the occurrence flight with the aircraft southeast of Maswa Game Reserve about 140nm southeast of Mwanza). The pilot saved their lives.

The aircraft remained on the ground in Mwanza for about 90 hours, then returned to service.


A passenger reported
So the incident is confirmed by a second independent source, even it is only a passenger on this flight.
 
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Re: And the next: Air Tanzania A220-300 engine failure_26-Sep-2019

Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:13 pm

Was it a possible bird-strike?

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