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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:11 pm

Not sure if this has been mentioned before but QF will use T3 at ORD once it starts BNE-ORD

https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1185 ... 23808?s=20
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:58 am

Review of what it was like on the JFY-SYD Project Sunrise 'research flight': https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... 787-flight
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:27 am

qf789 wrote:
Not sure if this has been mentioned before but QF will use T3 at ORD once it starts BNE-ORD

https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1185 ... 23808?s=20

That'll be for departure only since they'll be arriving into T5.

Not surprising given QF/AA JV but apparently will be a pain trying to go from T5 to T3 for arrival transfers

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:12 am

eamondzhang wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Not sure if this has been mentioned before but QF will use T3 at ORD once it starts BNE-ORD

https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1185 ... 23808?s=20

That'll be for departure only since they'll be arriving into T5.

Not surprising given QF/AA JV but apparently will be a pain trying to go from T5 to T3 for arrival transfers

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Not as bad you think. You can re-check in your bag at T5 before changing terminals.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:52 pm

How is NH doing at PER nearly two months in? Feels like they just started yesterday, can’t believe it’s been over 6 weeks.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:56 pm

Qantas 789 VH-ZNJ on the flightline at PAE

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:10 am

The IASC has issued its draft determination regarding the allocation of frequencies to HND.

The draft determination issues one frequency each to VA and QF.

https://www.iasc.gov.au/determinations_ ... cation.pdf
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:15 am

QF742 wrote:
The IASC has issued its draft determination regarding the allocation of frequencies to HND.

The draft determination issues one frequency each to VA and QF.

https://www.iasc.gov.au/determinations_ ... cation.pdf


Not a surprise.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:34 am

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How is NH doing at PER nearly two months in? Feels like they just started yesterday, can’t believe it’s been over 6 weeks.


While I haven't seen all the loads the ones I have seen have been rather good. School holidays they were pretty much full with only a few spare seats, outside of that most loads are roughly around 70-80% which I think is rather good for a service only 6 weeks ago. Loads have fallen a bit this week, but pretty much every carrier is the same with maybe the exception of SQ

There have only been a couple of cancellations due to Typhoon's and there was one night the outbound flight was cancelled due to an engine problem which saw the aircraft grounded for 3 days and NH did send in a 789 the following day it went tech. Other than that things look like they have gone pretty smoothly, however, this is a personal opinion only, it is boring seeing them send the same aircraft day in day out, earlier this month the same aircraft operated 12 flights to PER over 14 days
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:59 am

Pcoder wrote:
QF742 wrote:
The IASC has issued its draft determination regarding the allocation of frequencies to HND.

The draft determination issues one frequency each to VA and QF.

https://www.iasc.gov.au/determinations_ ... cation.pdf


Not a surprise.


I too am not surprised. QF and JL should be aloud to start codeshares on each others Australian routes if VA and NH will be aloud to.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:30 am

Probably well known but just noticed EVA Air are advertising the 787-10 on the back of Brisbane buses.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:23 am

Some information on the upcoming second "Project Sunrise" test flight from LHR ...

VH-ZNJ (the 100th year livery) aircraft will be used. Details as follows.

QF6027/05NOV PAE LAX .. ETD 1000LT ETA 1235LT
QF6027/13NOV LAX LHR .. ETD 2340LT ETA 1820LT
QF7879/14NOV LHR SYD ..ETD 0600LT ETA 1135LT

Obviously, these times / dates are all provisional subject to change :)
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:57 am

qf2048 wrote:
Pcoder wrote:
QF742 wrote:
The IASC has issued its draft determination regarding the allocation of frequencies to HND.

The draft determination issues one frequency each to VA and QF.

https://www.iasc.gov.au/determinations_ ... cation.pdf


Not a surprise.


I too am not surprised. QF and JL should be aloud to start codeshares on each others Australian routes if VA and NH will be aloud to.


Agreed - codeshare or JV? Hope NH/VA can handle the QF/JL heat. Considering they also have a shared stake in Jetstar japan could the Jetstar AU and Japan codeshare? Any idea why JL started Zip and not leverage off the Jetstar brand.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:19 am

FL420FT wrote:
Some information on the upcoming second "Project Sunrise" test flight from LHR ...

VH-ZNJ (the 100th year livery) aircraft will be used. Details as follows.

QF6027/05NOV PAE LAX .. ETD 1000LT ETA 1235LT
QF6027/13NOV LAX LHR .. ETD 2340LT ETA 1820LT
QF7879/14NOV LHR SYD ..ETD 0600LT ETA 1135LT

Obviously, these times / dates are all provisional subject to change :)


As pointed out in the other thread these times will only work if aircraft are switched at LHR
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:49 pm

qf789 wrote:
ben175 wrote:
How is NH doing at PER nearly two months in? Feels like they just started yesterday, can’t believe it’s been over 6 weeks.


While I haven't seen all the loads the ones I have seen have been rather good. School holidays they were pretty much full with only a few spare seats, outside of that most loads are roughly around 70-80% which I think is rather good for a service only 6 weeks ago. Loads have fallen a bit this week, but pretty much every carrier is the same with maybe the exception of SQ

There have only been a couple of cancellations due to Typhoon's and there was one night the outbound flight was cancelled due to an engine problem which saw the aircraft grounded for 3 days and NH did send in a 789 the following day it went tech. Other than that things look like they have gone pretty smoothly, however, this is a personal opinion only, it is boring seeing them send the same aircraft day in day out, earlier this month the same aircraft operated 12 flights to PER over 14 days


NH should send down their R2D2 Dreamliner to Perth to show it off. I think they will switch the service to the Air Japan subsidiary soon so will see different 787s in the future.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:04 pm

BITRE domestic for August

BNE-PPP up 13.5%
BNE-HTI up 13.4%
ZNE-PER up 12.2%
ADL-PER up 12.2%
ADL-ASP up 12.1%

PPP-SYD down 19.9%
CNS-TSV down 10.2%
DBO-SYD down 7.5%

https://www.bitre.gov.au/publications/o ... t_2019.pdf
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:18 pm

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NH should send down their R2D2 Dreamliner to Perth to show it off. I think they will switch the service to the Air Japan subsidiary soon so will see different 787s in the future.

It'll still be all the same aircraft - AJX and ANA does share planes around and it could be one flight done by AJX and after the turnaround (in Tokyo) the next flight is done by ANA on the same aircraft.

But you're right that PER is switching to Air Japan though, which normally means a slight downgrade in service (Air Japan crew aren't as attentive as far as my experience goes).

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:47 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
NZ516 wrote:
NH should send down their R2D2 Dreamliner to Perth to show it off. I think they will switch the service to the Air Japan subsidiary soon so will see different 787s in the future.

It'll still be all the same aircraft - AJX and ANA does share planes around and it could be one flight done by AJX and after the turnaround (in Tokyo) the next flight is done by ANA on the same aircraft.

But you're right that PER is switching to Air Japan though, which normally means a slight downgrade in service (Air Japan crew aren't as attentive as far as my experience goes).

Michael


This is interesting, I wonder why? Would be nice if you can elaborate more?

I don't even know why we see FM flying for MU on one of their flights in MEL.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:01 pm

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This is interesting, I wonder why? Would be nice if you can elaborate more?

I don't even know why we see FM flying for MU on one of their flights in MEL.

Think more for crewing reason, in ANA group ANA normally only hires fresh Japanese crew (with a few exemptions to its European based crew) and AJX normally hires those from other carriers. With ANA expanding rapidly over the past few years they're short on crew.

FM and MU wetlease arrangements are there forever and all over MU's network - in one way similar to VA and Alliance wetlease. Since they're parent and subsidiary now, their operations are essentially one with everything but AOC and flight/cabin crew merged - heck it's also quite common to see FM crew on a MU aircraft! (Generally this is limited to MU's 737-800 and A330 fleet though). In addition to MEL, FM also flies to SIN, AKL and soon SYD and MAD for MU and BUD/HND/HKG under its own code.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:48 pm

QF742 wrote:
The IASC has issued its draft determination regarding the allocation of frequencies to HND.

The draft determination issues one frequency each to VA and QF.

https://www.iasc.gov.au/determinations_ ... cation.pdf


Hopefully VA serve more than a protein ball and cup of juice on these flights
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:54 pm

brucetiki wrote:
QF742 wrote:
The IASC has issued its draft determination regarding the allocation of frequencies to HND.

The draft determination issues one frequency each to VA and QF.

https://www.iasc.gov.au/determinations_ ... cation.pdf


Hopefully VA serve more than a protein ball and cup of juice on these flights


HND is considered "long haul". HND will be the same long-haul 'proper' meal service in Y as the LAX and HKG flights.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:12 am

Vietjet to start flights between AVV & SGN in the second half of next year. Good to see Avalon getting another international LCC.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/vietj ... 685e7b43ff
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:32 am

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Vietjet to start flights between AVV & SGN in the second half of next year. Good to see Avalon getting another international LCC.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/vietj ... 685e7b43ff


Will be interesting to see what planes they use, as the ideal choice (A321XLR) won’t be available until quite some time after that planned launch period. The standard version may be able to fly the route at a stretch, but unlikely to get close to it at a higher density, LCC style configuration.

Can only hope AVV improve the arrival processing experience in particular as the reviews have been less than favourable.

The talk of potentially opening up Danang would be very interesting. Given that this will be the 3rd airline to fly to SGN from MEL and AVV, some broadening out of the destinations in Vietnam would be a welcome addition.

Great to see AVV growing though. Hopefully the next route will be Bangkok by Thai Air Asia.

I get a feeling that once more carriers launch AVV international flights though, others will see it as a far more compelling idea, other than just a Air Asia Airport.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:24 am

Also, very interestingly I've heard NH filing CGK as their planned alternative for PER services.

Although understaning PER is away from anywhere and by the time it reaches PER and conducted missed one approach, it won't be arriving into ADL before the curfew, this seems to be an awfully long way to divert if ever needed! Assuming 787-8 burns about 5t of fuel, this means an extra 25 tons of fuel that might otherwise be cargo in the hold (or part of, depending on MLW).

So this carries with the question, do we still have Learmouth as a planned alternative at all? What other airlines plan as alternatives if the flights are due to arrive during this time of the day?

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:18 pm

QF742 wrote:
The IASC has issued its draft determination regarding the allocation of frequencies to HND.

The draft determination issues one frequency each to VA and QF.

https://www.iasc.gov.au/determinations_ ... cation.pdf


Sorry if this has already been discussed - but are there any thoughts on which route virgin will pull the a330s from to serve HND? HKG vs PER?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:25 pm

How long has QF80 been operated by an A380? Noticed a few famous folks aboard this morning but thought that it was still operated by an A330-300.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:34 pm

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How long has QF80 been operated by an A380? Noticed a few famous folks aboard this morning but thought that it was still operated by an A330-300.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:10 pm

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Also, very interestingly I've heard NH filing CGK as their planned alternative for PER services.

Although understaning PER is away from anywhere and by the time it reaches PER and conducted missed one approach, it won't be arriving into ADL before the curfew, this seems to be an awfully long way to divert if ever needed! Assuming 787-8 burns about 5t of fuel, this means an extra 25 tons of fuel that might otherwise be cargo in the hold (or part of, depending on MLW).

So this carries with the question, do we still have Learmouth as a planned alternative at all? What other airlines plan as alternatives if the flights are due to arrive during this time of the day?

Michael


CGK is probably the diversionary airport if they are enroute, there’s no way they’d divert there if they had a few missed approaches in PER. It’s an extra 4 hours vs. 2.5 to ADL with a light load. It’d do what a QR A380 did a couple months ago. Divert To ADL after the curfew. I quote from the department of infrastructure.

“1.3 Use of Adelaide Airport as an Alternate Airport
Adelaide Airport may be nominated and used as a planned or unplanned alternate airport during the curfew. For international operations, landings and subsequent take-offs are permitted during the curfew. For domestic operations, only landings are permitted.

Noise abatement procedure requirements as set out in section 3 of these Guidelines apply to such operations. The use of Adelaide Airport as an alternate during the curfew relates to situations where there is an urgent need for an aircraft to land or take off.”
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:42 pm

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CGK is probably the diversionary airport if they are enroute, there’s no way they’d divert there if they had a few missed approaches in PER. It’s an extra 4 hours vs. 2.5 to ADL with a light load. It’d do what a QR A380 did a couple months ago. Divert To ADL after the curfew. I quote from the department of infrastructure.

“1.3 Use of Adelaide Airport as an Alternate Airport
Adelaide Airport may be nominated and used as a planned or unplanned alternate airport during the curfew. For international operations, landings and subsequent take-offs are permitted during the curfew. For domestic operations, only landings are permitted.

Noise abatement procedure requirements as set out in section 3 of these Guidelines apply to such operations. The use of Adelaide Airport as an alternate during the curfew relates to situations where there is an urgent need for an aircraft to land or take off.”

Apparently they actually planned CGK as a destination alternative and carried the fuel accordingly - although this was the first time I realised ADL could be utilised during curfew for international diversions!

787-8 does have the capability to tank 14hr's fuel though so I'm not too surprised - as long as they meet the MLW when they arrived into PER. And CGK being a current outstation for ANA might help a bit in their decision making process.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:01 am

Any thoughts as to whether QF will add another SYD flight to HND or swap the existing MEL service?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:10 am

MK has sent the A339 to PER today over the usual A332
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:12 am

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Any thoughts as to whether QF will add another SYD flight to HND or swap the existing MEL service?


You would think it be from SYD from both a capacity and utilisation point of view, they will need to add another flight anyway once the 744 gets pulled from it to maintain the current capacity
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:05 am

The only way utilisation improves is if QF stop doing morning arrivals into HND. The only viable options are:

Scenario 1 - 2nd SYD-HND:
Aircraft #1 (A333) QF2X 0950-1700 - QF2X 2200-0930 A333 = 24 hours
Aircraft #2 (B747) QF25 2150-0500+1 - QF26 1830-0600+1 B747 = 33 hours

Scenario 2 - 2nd SYD-HND:
Aircraft #1 (B747) - QF25 0950-1700 - QF26 1830-0600 = ~20 hours
Aircraft #2 (A333) - QF2X 1450-2200 - QF2X 2330-1130 = ~20 hours

Scenario 3 - MEL-HND:
Status quo on timings for QF25/26 and QF79/80. With possible capacity increases on SYD-KIX, SYD-CTS year round or SYD-NRT returning.

From a double SYD-HND daily perspective, scenario 1 is better commercially than #2 even if utilisation improves. My money is on MEL-HND commencing.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:25 am

eamondzhang wrote:
rtav wrote:
CGK is probably the diversionary airport if they are enroute, there’s no way they’d divert there if they had a few missed approaches in PER. It’s an extra 4 hours vs. 2.5 to ADL with a light load. It’d do what a QR A380 did a couple months ago. Divert To ADL after the curfew. I quote from the department of infrastructure.

“1.3 Use of Adelaide Airport as an Alternate Airport
Adelaide Airport may be nominated and used as a planned or unplanned alternate airport during the curfew. For international operations, landings and subsequent take-offs are permitted during the curfew. For domestic operations, only landings are permitted.

Noise abatement procedure requirements as set out in section 3 of these Guidelines apply to such operations. The use of Adelaide Airport as an alternate during the curfew relates to situations where there is an urgent need for an aircraft to land or take off.”

Apparently they actually planned CGK as a destination alternative and carried the fuel accordingly - although this was the first time I realised ADL could be utilised during curfew for international diversions!

787-8 does have the capability to tank 14hr's fuel though so I'm not too surprised - as long as they meet the MLW when they arrived into PER. And CGK being a current outstation for ANA might help a bit in their decision making process.

Michael


LEA would be a technical alternate also, held by a number of carriers. BQB has also been upgraded for widebody diversions and is reaching out to carriers to hold it as an alternate in the coming months.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:28 am

For those that are interested- productivity commission report has been handed down. Haven’t read. In full, but carriers aren’t happy.

https://www.pc.gov.au/inquiries/complet ... 019/report
 
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Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:29 am

jrfspa320 wrote:
Any thoughts as to whether QF will add another SYD flight to HND or swap the existing MEL service?


I recall there was a requirement for a March20 start date. Did this apply to JL and NH also? When could we expect an announcement form them?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:51 am

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jrfspa320 wrote:
Any thoughts as to whether QF will add another SYD flight to HND or swap the existing MEL service?


I recall there was a requirement for a March20 start date. Did this apply to JL and NH also? When could we expect an announcement form them?


I would expect the Japanese carriers to make their announcements at the same time as or after the Australian carriers. That said, I can't recall whether the Japanese carriers are under any particular deadline to use their new frequencies.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:07 am

smi0006 wrote:
For those that are interested- productivity commission report has been handed down. Haven’t read. In full, but carriers aren’t happy.

https://www.pc.gov.au/inquiries/complet ... 019/report

I do particularly like this recommendation though:

The Australian Government should amend the Sydney Airport Curfew Act 1995 (Cwlth)
to introduce noise standards for freight aircraft allowed during the curfew, rather than
specifying only one type of freight aircraft (the British Aerospace 146).


Finally someone's realising this piece of law is garbage and needs to be changed.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:07 am

getluv wrote:

Scenario 3 - MEL-HND:
Status quo on timings for QF25/26 and QF79/80. With possible capacity increases on SYD-KIX, SYD-CTS year round or SYD-NRT returning.


My conclusion is also that QF will go with MEL-HND if nothing else to ensure NH doesn't get MEL-HND all to itself. They can then make up capacity on SYD-Tokyo by:

- Codesharing on the SYD-HND service from JL and having them upgauge the aircraft being used; OR;
- Re-start SYD-NRT; OR
- Have JQ start SYD-NRT to make up for the loss of leisure traffic; OR
- Have JL start BNE-HND with their slot while maintaining SYD-NRT.

Given JQ's CNS-NRT and OOL-NRT services to me it makes sense to have them on SYD-NRT as well connecting in with the GK network at NRT for onward travel. Alterntaively having JL do BNE-HND and apply for comprehensive codesharing and/or a joint business could also make sense. That would mean you have ANA and Virgin at a prospective 4 daily to Tokyo while you have JL and QF with also a prospective 4 or 5 daily services to Tokyo along with their other services to KIX and CTS.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:44 am

getluv wrote:
Scenario 2 - 2nd SYD-HND:
Aircraft #1 (B747) - QF25 0950-1700 - QF26 1830-0600 = ~20 hours
Aircraft #2 (A333) - QF2X 1450-2200 - QF2X 2330-1130 = ~20 hours

From a double SYD-HND daily perspective, scenario 1 is better commercially than #2 even if utilisation improves. My money is on MEL-HND commencing.

Since QF has been doing early morning arrivals into Tokyo way before HND flights were started (back in the day when QF25 went to NRT), I feel like this scenario is probably the least likely one. It'll also give NH a competitive advantage for business travellers since that one will be red-eye both ways.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:00 pm

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eamondzhang wrote:
Also, very interestingly I've heard NH filing CGK as their planned alternative for PER services.

Although understaning PER is away from anywhere and by the time it reaches PER and conducted missed one approach, it won't be arriving into ADL before the curfew, this seems to be an awfully long way to divert if ever needed! Assuming 787-8 burns about 5t of fuel, this means an extra 25 tons of fuel that might otherwise be cargo in the hold (or part of, depending on MLW).

So this carries with the question, do we still have Learmouth as a planned alternative at all? What other airlines plan as alternatives if the flights are due to arrive during this time of the day?

Michael


CGK is probably the diversionary airport if they are enroute, there’s no way they’d divert there if they had a few missed approaches in PER. It’s an extra 4 hours vs. 2.5 to ADL with a light load. It’d do what a QR A380 did a couple months ago. Divert To ADL after the curfew. I quote from the department of infrastructure.

“1.3 Use of Adelaide Airport as an Alternate Airport
Adelaide Airport may be nominated and used as a planned or unplanned alternate airport during the curfew. For international operations, landings and subsequent take-offs are permitted during the curfew. For domestic operations, only landings are permitted.


Noise abatement procedure requirements as set out in section 3 of these Guidelines apply to such operations. The use of Adelaide Airport as an alternate during the curfew relates to situations where there is an urgent need for an aircraft to land or take off.”


The Qatar A388 that diverted to ADL arrived before the curfew not after
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Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:02 pm

ZNJ has been pictured at the fuel dock so first flight shouldn't be too far away

http://www.paineairport.com/kpae17863wg.htm
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Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:21 pm

Qantas expands AA domestic codeshare from DFW (starting 27 Oct 19) and ORD (from 20 Apr 20)

ORD connections include Baltimore/Washington, Boston, Buffalo, Charlotte, Cleveland, Columbus OH, Des Moines, Fort Lauderdale, Grand Rapids, Greensboro, Kansai City, Memphis, Miami, Milwaukee, Nashville, Newark, New York-LGA, Oklahoma City, Omaha, Orlando, Peoria, Philadelphia, Raleigh/Durham, Rochester, St Louis, Sioux Falls, Syracuse NY, Washington-DCA

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -oct-2019/
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Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:15 pm

MH scheduled 3 extra KUL-SYD flights 17-19 Dec 19

https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 37537?s=21
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Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:15 am

Qantas has issued a trading update for Q1 FY19/20 today

$25 million hit on profit due to unrest in HKG
Group revenue up 1.8%
Group capacity down 0.2%, international down 0.6% while group domestic up 0.5% mainly due to the resource sector

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https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... rter-fy20/
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Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:41 am

Virgin's AGM (6 Nov), though linked article says next week, up to 3% cut in capacity for domestic due to weakening economy, routes planning for increases for second half off the table now

VA is also planning to release group strategy next month, though review on all routes may not be announced until December

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/busine ... de37a3f278
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Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:19 am

Airbus A220-300 coming to SYD and BNE next week as part of a 'demonstration tour'. SYD visit will be Tue Oct29 with an invite-only joyflight "for airline executives and other invited guests".

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Vietjet to start flights between AVV & SGN in the second half of next year. Good to see Avalon getting another international LCC.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/vietj ... 685e7b43ff


Wow, so still no connection between Queensland and Vietnam. Very surprised considering Victoria now has 3 airlines serving the SGN route and QLD still has nothing!
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Vietjet to start flights between AVV & SGN in the second half of next year. Good to see Avalon getting another international LCC.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/vietj ... 685e7b43ff


Wow, so still no connection between Queensland and Vietnam. Very surprised considering Victoria now has 3 airlines serving the SGN route and QLD still has nothing!

Probably a reflection that most of the Australian based Vietnamese diaspora resulting from the refugee crisis in the late '70s settled in Melbourne and Sydney.
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Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:10 am

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Vietjet to start flights between AVV & SGN in the second half of next year. Good to see Avalon getting another international LCC.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/vietj ... 685e7b43ff


Wow, so still no connection between Queensland and Vietnam. Very surprised considering Victoria now has 3 airlines serving the SGN route and QLD still has nothing!

Probably a reflection that most of the Australian based Vietnamese diaspora resulting from the refugee crisis in the late '70s settled in Melbourne and Sydney.


Yep, it’s no real surprise that MEL and SYD would be significantly higher traffic generators to/from Vietnam.

People sometimes look at markets and see them unserved (ie. BNE-SGN) and think airlines would gravitate to those opportunities, but the numbers lead to where they fly. Even if it’s up against 2 other airlines on an existing route, that may well still be a stronger proposition than an unserved option.

As for AVV, can only hope new opportunities do open up. After a few very nervous moments with JQ exploring ways to potentially cease operations there, it’s good to see it finding a stronger base to build on.
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