ASFlyer wrote:RWA380 wrote:JBoy wrote:
Alaska hasn't returned any 319's yet.
Yes they have, in fact AS lost one A-320 & one A-321 during the retrofit process (AS started with 22 & ended up with 21 of the 320-214's w/o sharklets), some were frames slated to be returned by VX already, as VX had newer aircraft coming & they planned on letting go of the 319's entirely.
The range is good, but the galleys don't allow for full meal services. Not a good fit for AS. In fact the galleys are lacking on the A-320's as well & are not ideal at all for the way AS does their meal services (first hand from a F/A perspective). In this instance the F/A is the reliable source.
At the time of the merger VX had 67 aircraft in it's fleet (remember VX had received only 2 of their A-321neo's), currently AS operates (after retrofit) 10 A-319-112's, 10 A-320-214's w/sharklets, 21 A-320-214 w/o sharklets & 8 A-321neo's (there were 9 before retrofit). That is a current total of 49 Airbus aircraft in the AS fleet.
By my count that means AS is down 18 Airbus aircraft, that's just under 30% of the VX fleet at time of merger. The naysayers that keep arguing that AS is still deciding on the Airbus fleet need to see this.
While AS is contractually obligated for the current leases, I would be extremely surprised if any Airbus was kept past it's initial expiration date, with the remote exception of the 321's but only if AS finds a mission they are uniquely qualified to fly, that AS wants to undertake with a relatively small sub-fleet of Airbus aircraft.
All of AS fleets & the information regarding my comments is located for public consumption at - https://www.alaskaair.com/content/trave ... aft/airbus
The information I used to determine fleet size for VX, was the Virgin America Wikipedia page located at - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_America
I agree with your statement about the galleys not being optimal for the services Alaska provides but as time goes on, and FA's continue to find ways to make it work, the company is becoming less concerned. They are looking for galley solutions on planes that FA's are continuing to have difficulties with.
AS has not given back any 321's that I'm aware of - still have 9, as indicated on the companies web page. I think there's a good chance the 321's stay in the fleet, with possible orders for more. Especially, in light of the MAX difficulties I think management may be wondering the wisdom of having all their eggs in one basket. That not withstanding, the 321 is impressing management.
I predicated my argument on the AS fact page for their Airbus fleet & as I stated how I obtained the information I used. Who would know that AS's own webpages are off by that many aircraft & while I know those things are notoriously late to be updated, I am unsure why AS would understate their fleet size there. Anyway, I can accept being wrong, not the first time & likely not the last as I round the bases at 55.
My longest term friend is my cousins best friend from high school, her & I clicked right away & she was in my entourage on my 21st birthday & she is a decade or better flying for AS. She first avoided the 320's once they could crossover, but it's impossible now being PDX based, unless you are senior enough to just fly Hawaii & back. PDX to BOS for one, has several T-cons on the A-320.
I also know that AAG was taken aback on the condition of the aircraft inherited from VX. The disrepair was far greater than had been represented & took far more time & of course cash, to remedy the bountiful number of small projects each frame had accumulated over the last year at VX. I was told that VX maintenance practices were subpar vs AAG standards & lots would change.
Anyway, thanks man, as usual you're a class act. Honestly I think I also have friends at AS that tell me shit & not privy stuff, but things that "could" happen based in recent events & speculation on the fleet.