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Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:36 pm

Probably not big enough to warrant a thread, but interesting nonetheless.
Per DL’s website Beginning 3/28/2020, JFK-LIS upguaged to a 763.

And as I previously mentioned in the Boston thread, BOS-LIS is upgraded from domestic 757 to International 757. I am assuming that the intl 757 on the box route came from JFK.
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:53 pm

Another thing noted, JFK-AGP May have been cut.
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:01 pm

What is the status of PDL? Some rumors around here mentioned it being cut, some just stated it had not been loaded yet.


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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:01 pm

Is DL canning JFK-PDL for 2020?
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:08 pm

PDL is one of the markets where BOS is a better gateway than JFK. Much stronger local demand on both sides. If they are committed to the market (which there isn't any evidence that they are) then moving the route to BOS would be the logical step.
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:21 pm

Looks like Delta loaded lots of Transatlantic adjustments for Summer 2020 this weekend. Poking around here is what I’ve found:

-LAX-AMS looks like it was added back for peak summer on a 763
-BOS-DUB now a 333. That means ATL, BOS, JFK to DUB will all be 333s
-A350 frequencies added to AMS from ATL, DTW and MSP at various times next year
-AMS-SEA gets a 339 in late summer
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:50 pm

Yes, PDL and AGP are both gone.

Some other long-haul aircraft type changes loaded over the weekend. Here are S20 versus S19 changes including those previously announced:

Noteworthy items:
-more A359 TATL with addition of 1x DTW-AMS and 1x MSP-AMS to the current 1x DTW-AMS
- LHR is all 764 except for SLC which remains a 763
- FCO will be all A333
- DUB will be all A333
- FRA will be all A332
- LAX Long-haul will be all 777 (oops scratch that, I didn’t see the LAX-AMS 763 re-add)
- MSP TPAC will go from all-777 to all-A359

76D - old 767-400 with 3 cabins: 245 seats
764 - refurbished 767-400 with 4 cabins: 238 seats
76L - 763ER with large J cabin (35 seats for sale); total 210 seats for sale
76Z - 763ER with small J cabin (25 seats for sale); total 225 seats for sale
A332 - 3 cabins total of 234 seats
A333 - 3 cabins total of 293 seats

JFK-LHR from 2x A332 to 3x 764
JFK-BRU from 76L/Z to 764
JFK-ZRH from A332 to 764
JFK-DUB from 76D to A333
JFK-FRA from 76L to A332
JFK-LIS from 75S to 76Z
JFK-TXL from 76D to 76L
JFK-MAD from 76D to 76Z
JFK-PRG from 76D to 76Z
JFK-GRU from 76L to 764
PDX-LHR from 76Z to 764
PDX-AMS from A333 to A332
PDX-HND from 76Z to A332
MSP-LHR from 76Z to 764
MSP-AMS one A333 to A359; so now will be 1x A359 and 2x A333
MSP-HND from 777 to A359
MSP-ICN from 777 to A359
DTW-LHR from A332 to 764
DTW-FRA from 76L to A332
DTW-AMS one of the A333 flights to A359 (so DTW-AMS will now have 2x A359, 1x A333 and 1x A332)
DTW-FCO from 76Z to A333
DTW-MUC from 76D to A332
BOS-DUB from 76Z to A333
BOS-LIS from 75D to 75S
ATL-LHR from A332 to 764
ATL-FRA from 76L to A332
ATL-MAD from 76D to 76Z
ATL-BRU from 76L/Z to 764
ATL-ZRH from 76Z to 764
LAX-HND from A359 to 777
LAX-PVG from A359 to 777
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:54 pm

TheAccountant wrote:
-LAX-AMS looks like it was added back

Very happy to see this!
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:25 pm

It seems like DL is trying to eliminate much of their 757 flying TATL as much as possible. I believe the only TATL routes with a 757 are JFK-GLA/EDI/KEF/SNN, BOS-EDI, MSP-KEF?
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:37 pm

If they don't want to use 757-200s with domestic F (sold a Premium Select) they only have 18 75S frames with lie-flat Business. Some of those regularly ply JFK-LAX/SFO, DCA-LAX, etc.
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:46 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
If they don't want to use 757-200s with domestic F (sold a Premium Select) they only have 18 75S frames with lie-flat Business. Some of those regularly ply JFK-LAX/SFO, DCA-LAX, etc.


Yeah and I was noting that they DL seems to be limiting the 75S ops to transcon and the TATL routes I mentioned.
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:06 pm

panamair wrote:
- FRA will be all A332


That's interesting. FRA used to get 764s to all JFK, ATL, DTW maybe 2 or 3 years ago and was then continuously downgraded until this summer when it hit 763s exclusively.

All 332 represents a slight uptick in capacity again but I'll miss seeing 3 DL 764s parked at Terminal 2.
FRA has plenty of A330s already...
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FRA STR HAM TXL MUC ZRH ACE BRU BLL DUB MAN ARN MAD OPO LIS FNC AMS PHL RDU LGA CLT EWR ORD ATL SFO MDW YYZ SJO PTY
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:19 pm

It seems like they are moving the A350s from LAX to MSP. Any reason for this?
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:56 pm

IIRC RDU/CVG-CDG were on the 76L, looks like they will be on the 76Z instead. Surprised neither of these have seen the B764 or A332

TPA-AMS will start a month earlier, and PDX-LHR appears to be starting a few weeks earlier as well.
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:39 pm

airlineguy1234 wrote:
It seems like they are moving the A350s from LAX to MSP. Any reason for this?


I've heard that in May they will begin doing C checks on the A350s in MSP. At least that's what a techop member wrote in a FB post in the MSP.group recently.
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:55 pm

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airlineguy1234 wrote:
It seems like they are moving the A350s from LAX to MSP. Any reason for this?


I've heard that in May they will begin doing C checks on the A350s in MSP. At least that's what a techop member wrote in a FB post in the MSP.group recently.



MSP has a large TechOps operation thats not really acknowledged but yes I saw that post too about the C check
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:20 pm

A350's are due heavy checks already? Or are these just minor checks that take 10-15 days to complete?
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:47 pm

hsuthe19 wrote:
It seems like DL is trying to eliminate much of their 757 flying TATL as much as possible. I believe the only TATL routes with a 757 are JFK-GLA/EDI/KEF/SNN, BOS-EDI, MSP-KEF?


BOS-LIS & BOS-LGW will also be flown with the 757s.
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:54 pm

dcajet wrote:
hsuthe19 wrote:
It seems like DL is trying to eliminate much of their 757 flying TATL as much as possible. I believe the only TATL routes with a 757 are JFK-GLA/EDI/KEF/SNN, BOS-EDI, MSP-KEF?


BOS-LIS & BOS-LGW will also be flown with the 757s.



You’re right, I forgot about to mention those as well as BOS-MAN.
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:29 am

panamair wrote:
Yes, PDL and AGP are both gone.

Some other long-haul aircraft type changes loaded over the weekend. Here are S20 versus S19 changes including those previously announced:

Noteworthy items:
-more A359 TATL with addition of 1x DTW-AMS and 1x MSP-AMS to the current 1x DTW-AMS
- LHR is all 764 except for SLC which remains a 763
- FCO will be all A333
- DUB will be all A333
- FRA will be all A332
- LAX Long-haul will be all 777 (oops scratch that, I didn’t see the LAX-AMS 763 re-add)
- MSP TPAC will go from all-777 to all-A359

76D - old 767-400 with 3 cabins: 245 seats
764 - refurbished 767-400 with 4 cabins: 238 seats
76L - 763ER with large J cabin (35 seats for sale); total 210 seats for sale
76Z - 763ER with small J cabin (25 seats for sale); total 225 seats for sale
A332 - 3 cabins total of 234 seats
A333 - 3 cabins total of 293 seats

JFK-LHR from 2x A332 to 3x 764
JFK-BRU from 76L/Z to 764
JFK-ZRH from A332 to 764
JFK-DUB from 76D to A333
JFK-FRA from 76L to A332
JFK-LIS from 75S to 76Z
JFK-TXL from 76D to 76L
JFK-MAD from 76D to 76Z
JFK-PRG from 76D to 76Z
JFK-GRU from 76L to 764
PDX-LHR from 76Z to 764
PDX-AMS from A333 to A332
PDX-HND from 76Z to A332
MSP-LHR from 76Z to 764
MSP-AMS one A333 to A359; so now will be 1x A359 and 2x A333
MSP-HND from 777 to A359
MSP-ICN from 777 to A359
DTW-LHR from A332 to 764
DTW-FRA from 76L to A332
DTW-AMS one of the A333 flights to A359 (so DTW-AMS will now have 2x A359, 1x A333 and 1x A332)
DTW-FCO from 76Z to A333
DTW-MUC from 76D to A332
BOS-DUB from 76Z to A333
BOS-LIS from 75D to 75S
ATL-LHR from A332 to 764
ATL-FRA from 76L to A332
ATL-MAD from 76D to 76Z
ATL-BRU from 76L/Z to 764
ATL-ZRH from 76Z to 764
LAX-HND from A359 to 777
LAX-PVG from A359 to 777


While not a transatlantic route, ATL-EZE will see the refurbished 4 cabin 767-400 effective 15/4/20.

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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:37 am

Great news for DTW. The season was extended for MUC (Now starts April 1st) and the second daily CDG flight starts April 13th, one month earlier than this year. Big upgrade to FCO with the A333. They served it last year, but put the 763 on it for this year’s season. About half of the TATL flights from DL to Europe were on the 763, hut that’s about to change.
 
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:40 am

Whoops, looks like the MUC/extra CDG flights have now been moved back to May. Still represents a capacity upgrade though.
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:03 am

lugie wrote:
panamair wrote:
- FRA will be all A332


That's interesting. FRA used to get 764s to all JFK, ATL, DTW maybe 2 or 3 years ago and was then continuously downgraded until this summer when it hit 763s exclusively.

All 332 represents a slight uptick in capacity again but I'll miss seeing 3 DL 764s parked at Terminal 2.
FRA has plenty of A330s already...


I feel that the A330 is a much better aircraft after riding on LH's DFW FRA and KLM DFW AMS.
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:08 am

freakyrat wrote:
lugie wrote:
panamair wrote:
- FRA will be all A332


That's interesting. FRA used to get 764s to all JFK, ATL, DTW maybe 2 or 3 years ago and was then continuously downgraded until this summer when it hit 763s exclusively.

All 332 represents a slight uptick in capacity again but I'll miss seeing 3 DL 764s parked at Terminal 2.
FRA has plenty of A330s already...


I feel that the A330 is a much better aircraft after riding on LH's DFW FRA and KLM DFW AMS.


Will agree to that even on DL, 333 BOS-AMS was way better than the 763ER I got on the way home
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:47 am

Antoli0794 wrote:
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A333MSPtoAMS wrote:
airlineguy1234 wrote:
It seems like they are moving the A350s from LAX to MSP. Any reason for this?


I've heard that in May they will begin doing C checks on the A350s in MSP. At least that's what a techop member wrote in a FB post in the MSP.group recently.



MSP has a large TechOps operation thats not really acknowledged but yes I saw that post too about the C check


They'll also be getting C+ as well while in C check.
 
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:55 am

I see it a little sad that the 757 is being faded out of the tatl. I have planes I like more than others and the 757 is my highest favorite of the planes I typically fly. Although probably more than most, once I get in I'm really only concerned with it getting me there as fast as the rest. Basic comfort. I have those, and my window seat and im6good to go, but I do take a special liking to the 757. The other, the 747, many years ago I rode on one a total of 7 times. To book a flight on BA NY-,London on a 748 I wouldn't be satisfied with y. I'd want their best 1st class either at the very front or the upper deck. But, that's a bit pricey to just ride to ride, although there are at least a few of you on here that do. I I'd love the opportunity but it's making me reach into deep places financially I'm in a comfortable spot living ok and flying pretty much as much as I ever have or close to it. So not going to tip on the apple cart right now. Again, I'm envious of those who can and I'd be one of the most joy riders. .I'd be like sam chui only without the video and the fanfare. I'd just quietly enjoy the luxury flights.
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:21 am

freakyrat wrote:
lugie wrote:
panamair wrote:
- FRA will be all A332


That's interesting. FRA used to get 764s to all JFK, ATL, DTW maybe 2 or 3 years ago and was then continuously downgraded until this summer when it hit 763s exclusively.

All 332 represents a slight uptick in capacity again but I'll miss seeing 3 DL 764s parked at Terminal 2.
FRA has plenty of A330s already...


I feel that the A330 is a much better aircraft after riding on LH's DFW FRA and KLM DFW AMS.


Is it the noise?
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:18 pm

1989worstyear wrote:
freakyrat wrote:
lugie wrote:

That's interesting. FRA used to get 764s to all JFK, ATL, DTW maybe 2 or 3 years ago and was then continuously downgraded until this summer when it hit 763s exclusively.

All 332 represents a slight uptick in capacity again but I'll miss seeing 3 DL 764s parked at Terminal 2.
FRA has plenty of A330s already...


I feel that the A330 is a much better aircraft after riding on LH's DFW FRA and KLM DFW AMS.


Is it the noise?


Personally I find the cabin quietness the deciding factor when opting for a 330 against any 767 or 777.
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:20 pm

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PDL is one of the markets where BOS is a better gateway than JFK. Much stronger local demand on both sides. If they are committed to the market (which there isn't any evidence that they are) then moving the route to BOS would be the logical step.



Indeed! Ponta Delgada HAS to be out of Boston!

I'm also wondering if that specific route could not be simply be flown by a domestic configured bird....
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:48 pm

oldannyboy wrote:
N717TW wrote:
PDL is one of the markets where BOS is a better gateway than JFK. Much stronger local demand on both sides. If they are committed to the market (which there isn't any evidence that they are) then moving the route to BOS would be the logical step.



Indeed! Ponta Delgada HAS to be out of Boston!

I'm also wondering if that specific route could not be simply be flown by a domestic configured bird....


It was flown by a domestic-configured 757 unless something changed in the past 6 months. They only ever marketed Premium Select (= Domestic First) on that route, never Delta One.
 
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:01 pm

I wonder if part of the reason why they are pulling back on some of the TATL 757 flying (particularly 75H) is that domestically they have much better revenue potential.
Particularly in light of the delivery delays of A321 NEOs impacting next summer's schedule, they may need to back-fill some of that with 757 flying.
Domestic has been performing so strong in recent summers, there is likely more revenue potential using a 757 to do 4-6 domestic segments than 2 TATL segments.
 
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:06 pm

Lots of time schedule changes too.
 
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:32 pm

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
I wonder if part of the reason why they are pulling back on some of the TATL 757 flying (particularly 75H) is that domestically they have much better revenue potential.

I really don't see enough evidence to suggest they are pulling back on TATL 757 flying. From the list in reply #7 only 1 (one) route has been upgauged from a 757 to a 767, JFK-LIS and that's likely due to route maturation. Two others JFK-PDL and JFK-AGP are being canceled simply because there's no market. But DL is adding BOS-LGW with a 757 and they're probably not done adding new TATL routes from BOS so we could still see another 757 route added.
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:37 pm

airlineguy1234 wrote:
It seems like they are moving the A350s from LAX to MSP. Any reason for this?

Also, LAX has a 777 pilot domicle. No need to DH LAX & ATL 777 crews in and out of MSP. And it's shorter distance to deadhead 350 pilots to MSP vs LAX from DTW. Huge savings in credit time/usable days from a crew staffing perspective.
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:38 pm

Im looking forward to seeing the A350 in MSP.
 
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:06 pm

Does this free any 757s up for additional new, thin TATL service?
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:07 pm

Cactusjuba wrote:
airlineguy1234 wrote:
It seems like they are moving the A350s from LAX to MSP. Any reason for this?

Also, LAX has a 777 pilot domicle. No need to DH LAX & ATL 777 crews in and out of MSP. And it's shorter distance to deadhead 350 pilots to MSP vs LAX from DTW. Huge savings in credit time/usable days from a crew staffing perspective.


Then there's the cargo out of and into LA
 
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:16 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
Lots of time schedule changes too.


Please don't think that the Summer 2020 schedule is finalized in early October. Routes may be near-finalized but it is unlikely that start/end dates, frequencies, aircraft assignments and times are. Constant optimization, you know.
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:25 pm

oldannyboy wrote:
1989worstyear wrote:
freakyrat wrote:

I feel that the A330 is a much better aircraft after riding on LH's DFW FRA and KLM DFW AMS.


Is it the noise?


Personally I find the cabin quietness the deciding factor when opting for a 330 against any 767 or 777.


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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:47 pm

BOS-DUB starts as a 76Z March 12th then changes to a 333 on April 3rd. Will be interested to see if it ends up going year round after next summer.
 
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Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:11 am

hsuthe19 wrote:
It seems like DL is trying to eliminate much of their 757 flying TATL as much as possible. I believe the only TATL routes with a 757 are JFK-GLA/EDI/KEF/SNN, BOS-EDI, MSP-KEF?


9 flights a day

Still quite a bit of 757 TATL operations
 
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:08 am

Maybe freeing up aircraft for South America?
 
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:30 am

timh4000 wrote:
I see it a little sad that the 757 is being faded out of the tatl. I have planes I like more than others and the 757 is my highest favorite of the planes I typically fly. Although probably more than most, once I get in I'm really only concerned with it getting me there as fast as the rest. Basic comfort. I have those, and my window seat and im6good to go, but I do take a special liking to the 757. The other, the 747, many years ago I rode on one a total of 7 times. To book a flight on BA NY-,London on a 748 I wouldn't be satisfied with y. I'd want their best 1st class either at the very front or the upper deck. But, that's a bit pricey to just ride to ride, although there are at least a few of you on here that do. I I'd love the opportunity but it's making me reach into deep places financially I'm in a comfortable spot living ok and flying pretty much as much as I ever have or close to it. So not going to tip on the apple cart right now. Again, I'm envious of those who can and I'd be one of the most joy riders. .I'd be like sam chui only without the video and the fanfare. I'd just quietly enjoy the luxury flights.


Perhaps I misunderstood you, but BA does not operate 748s. You will need to fly LH for that. And don't consider it out of your reach - save frequent flyer miles from flying and from credit card spend, and a First Class one-way ticket is not that out of reach...
 
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:52 pm

Your right, BA only has the 400. I'd ride that too. Thanks for the tip. (Btw) I was just using JFK-LHR as an example. I'd be more apt to fly to Frankfurt as I was stationed in Germany for 3 years and is my favorite country to visit. Up in 1st class I wouldn't mind the longer flights. To London flying east with a strong tailwind is only 5&1/2 and sometimes even less when they get it into 700mph range.
 
McG1967
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:43 pm

Can the A321Neo do the likes of GLA and SNN, or would it need to be the LR version?
 
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:09 pm

Isnt JFK-DSS also a operated with 757?
 
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:37 pm

Word in the local press in PDL is that DL was waiting for incentives to keep the route, and the local govt didn't hand them out.
 
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:40 pm

louA340 wrote:
Isnt JFK-DSS also a operated with 757?


763, unless it’s scheduled as a 752 in the future?
 
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:20 am

Ishrion wrote:
louA340 wrote:
Isnt JFK-DSS also a operated with 757?


763, unless it’s scheduled as a 752 in the future?


:checkmark: Yep, it has recently been a 2x weekly 763 service that operates on the days the 5x weekly JFK-ACC flight doesn't operate.

Another change that was loaded recently is that JFK-LAX is going all-763 next summer. That route looks to be the bread and butter of the 76L fleet going forward, with JFK-TXL and JFK-VCE also thrown in. There will still be a few 76Z rotations on JFK-LAX as well.

ATL-BCN is another change: last summer it was a 76D and this summer it's loaded as a 332. That said, the scheduling of the 332 fleet is definitely going to be adjusted further because the currently loaded schedule would require 12 frames. I wouldn't be surprised to see ATL-BCN end up on the 333 again.

Also, the 76T fleet will be consolidated mostly to HNL next summer (HNL-MSP, HNL-ATL, ATL-LIM, HNL-HND, HNL-NGO, HNL-KIX, SEA-KIX). SEA-PEK is also loaded as a 76T route for now, but that will likely change to a 339 route at some point.
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Re: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes

Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:20 pm

FSDan wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
louA340 wrote:
Isnt JFK-DSS also a operated with 757?


763, unless it’s scheduled as a 752 in the future?


:checkmark: Yep, it has recently been a 2x weekly 763 service that operates on the days the 5x weekly JFK-ACC flight doesn't operate.

Another change that was loaded recently is that JFK-LAX is going all-763 next summer. That route looks to be the bread and butter of the 76L fleet going forward, with JFK-TXL and JFK-VCE also thrown in. There will still be a few 76Z rotations on JFK-LAX as well.

ATL-BCN is another change: last summer it was a 76D and this summer it's loaded as a 332. That said, the scheduling of the 332 fleet is definitely going to be adjusted further because the currently loaded schedule would require 12 frames. I wouldn't be surprised to see ATL-BCN end up on the 333 again.

Also, the 76T fleet will be consolidated mostly to HNL next summer (HNL-MSP, HNL-ATL, ATL-LIM, HNL-HND, HNL-NGO, HNL-KIX, SEA-KIX). SEA-PEK is also loaded as a 76T route for now, but that will likely change to a 339 route at some point.


Ugh on JFK-LAX all 76L. I go out of my way for the A333 flight. DL needs to at least deep clean those 76Ls. The business class has become so run down it is totally not up to DL standards. I like the 767's and don't mind they are old. Too bad they can't replace the J seats with modern tvs, put in the bigger bins (why they never did this in the past is beyond me) and CLEAN the dam planes after each trip. I also miss not having live tv on the 767 vs the 757s.

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