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Boeing74741R wrote:G-LSAG/H/I were due to be withdrawn at the end of the summer season, however in light of the Thomas Cook collapse it would appear they are now staying for a while longer. What their hours/cycles are like I don't know, but the opportunities to add extra flights arising from recent events has probably caused some airlines to at least reconsider their short-term fleet plans.
This is a good page to keep an eye on: https://www.jethros.org.uk/fleets/fleet ... s/jet2.htm
KFTG wrote:No 757-300 is anywhere close to 30 years old yet.
oldannyboy wrote:I am hoping they manage to keep the 757s flying a little longer. LS seem not to mind flying older jets, and they keep them in great shape too, so that shouldn't be a problem for the immediate future.
Having said that, I don't see them delving into a new type for when the beloved 757 goes....they'd probably acquire more second-hand 738s capacity-wise, and probably simply lease in extra capacity (Air tanker A330s?) when needed for their few [particularly] busier seasonal routes to the Med and occasional long-hauls, like the NY Xmas shopping trips. Just my 2 cents..
StdTank80002 wrote:oldannyboy wrote:I am hoping they manage to keep the 757s flying a little longer. LS seem not to mind flying older jets, and they keep them in great shape too, so that shouldn't be a problem for the immediate future.
Having said that, I don't see them delving into a new type for when the beloved 757 goes....they'd probably acquire more second-hand 738s capacity-wise, and probably simply lease in extra capacity (Air tanker A330s?) when needed for their few [particularly] busier seasonal routes to the Med and occasional long-hauls, like the NY Xmas shopping trips. Just my 2 cents..
Not sure how much longer the NY flights will last they seem to have reduced them each year for last few years.
TheWorm123 wrote:Hi all,
This is my first post so please feel free to let me know if something isn’t right.
I flew on a Jet2/LS 757 to Tenerife in August and a quick check of the reg number (forgotten which but it was silver and orange) revealed it’s age as 31.2 years old.
We flew back on G-VYGL which was a very nice and smooth flight for my first time on an Airbus, I’ve only flown on Boeing metal before.
It was discussed already 6 months ago, but has anything changed since on replacing the remaining 30 + year old 737-300 and 757-200’s?
Some must be nearing their cycle/flight hour limits by now.
Thanks,
The Worm123
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Bealine251 wrote:According to Jethros.org.uk Airbus G-VYGL has had the lease date extended until November 2025 and G-VYGM until November 2022. Both still being leased from Air Tankers as before.
DALMD80 wrote:TheWorm123 wrote:Hi all,
This is my first post so please feel free to let me know if something isn’t right.
I flew on a Jet2/LS 757 to Tenerife in August and a quick check of the reg number (forgotten which but it was silver and orange) revealed it’s age as 31.2 years old.
We flew back on G-VYGL which was a very nice and smooth flight for my first time on an Airbus, I’ve only flown on Boeing metal before.
It was discussed already 6 months ago, but has anything changed since on replacing the remaining 30 + year old 737-300 and 757-200’s?
Some must be nearing their cycle/flight hour limits by now.
Thanks,
The Worm123
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KFTG wrote:No 757-300 is anywhere close to 30 years old yet.
Bealine251 wrote:According to Jethros.org.uk Airbus G-VYGL has had the lease date extended until November 2025 and G-VYGM until November 2022. Both still being leased from Air Tankers as before.
OA260 wrote:Hopefully they will indeed be hanging around a while longer. Flew on a few of them and in great shape.
Spacepope wrote:Boeing74741R wrote:G-LSAG/H/I were due to be withdrawn at the end of the summer season, however in light of the Thomas Cook collapse it would appear they are now staying for a while longer. What their hours/cycles are like I don't know, but the opportunities to add extra flights arising from recent events has probably caused some airlines to at least reconsider their short-term fleet plans.
This is a good page to keep an eye on: https://www.jethros.org.uk/fleets/fleet ... s/jet2.htm
Hours below, taken from G-INFO. https://siteapps.caa.co.uk/g-info/
G-LSAG TOTAL HOURS:
73581 at 14-Mar-2019
G-LSAH TOTAL HOURS:
71202 at 22-Feb-2019
G-LSAI TOTAL HOURS:
72842 at 14-May-2019
Not too shabby, they should have plenty of life in them if needed for several more years.
TheWorm123 wrote:Interesting to note Jet LS917 MAN - TFS is usually flown by a 757 or a an AirTanker A332 but tonight it was flown by EC-MII an A333, is this a new lease?
eagles94 wrote:The New York flights from MAN are all going on Air Tanker this winter. LBA still on the ol’ reliable 75 though
jmc757 wrote:
Jet2 leased this aircraft after Thomas Cook collapsed. The lease was arranged very quickly to allow Jet2 to up their capacity in the immediate aftermath of TCX and for the October school holidays. I think it's only with them until the end of the month.
TheWorm123 wrote:eagles94 wrote:The New York flights from MAN are all going on Air Tanker this winter. LBA still on the ol’ reliable 75 though
I’m surprised that Jet2 didn’t buy their own A332 instead of extending the lease by 6 years, it offers the route versatility they seem to like from the 757’s.
G-VYGL could be going to Mallorca one day and then Newark the next. .
eagles94 wrote:TheWorm123 wrote:eagles94 wrote:The New York flights from MAN are all going on Air Tanker this winter. LBA still on the ol’ reliable 75 though
I’m surprised that Jet2 didn’t buy their own A332 instead of extending the lease by 6 years, it offers the route versatility they seem to like from the 757’s.
G-VYGL could be going to Mallorca one day and then Newark the next. .
Jet2 are smart I’m sure they have their reasons. Perhaps it’s nice to have the option to “get rid” should anything go wrong
Boeing74741R wrote:eagles94 wrote:TheWorm123 wrote:I’m surprised that Jet2 didn’t buy their own A332 instead of extending the lease by 6 years, it offers the route versatility they seem to like from the 757’s.
G-VYGL could be going to Mallorca one day and then Newark the next. .
Jet2 are smart I’m sure they have their reasons. Perhaps it’s nice to have the option to “get rid” should anything go wrong
Even that depends what clauses are in the contract with Air Tanker.
f4f3a wrote:I have seen on jethros fleet jet2 getting what looks like 6 of their own a321 . Anyone know where they are going to be sourced from ?
f4f3a wrote:Found homes quickly then . It’s good to see expansion in to the space left
Boeing74741R wrote:eagles94 wrote:TheWorm123 wrote:I’m surprised that Jet2 didn’t buy their own A332 instead of extending the lease by 6 years, it offers the route versatility they seem to like from the 757’s.
G-VYGL could be going to Mallorca one day and then Newark the next. .
Jet2 are smart I’m sure they have their reasons. Perhaps it’s nice to have the option to “get rid” should anything go wrong
Even that depends what clauses are in the contract with Air Tanker.
Channex757 wrote:These are Strategic Reserve aircraft.
They are bought by the AirTanker consortium as surge aircraft for the RAF in times of military need, and the consortium needs someone to operate them rather than just let them sit idle. On request they must be returned to AirTanker and the RAF immediately.
That means nonstandard lease contracts which could indeed be cheaper to reflect that clause plus others which (allegedly) exist. For instance operating to non-NATO countries was conspicuous by its absence when TCX had them.
Andy33 wrote:Channex757 wrote:These are Strategic Reserve aircraft.
They are bought by the AirTanker consortium as surge aircraft for the RAF in times of military need, and the consortium needs someone to operate them rather than just let them sit idle. On request they must be returned to AirTanker and the RAF immediately.
That means nonstandard lease contracts which could indeed be cheaper to reflect that clause plus others which (allegedly) exist. For instance operating to non-NATO countries was conspicuous by its absence when TCX had them.
In fact that would be less onerous for Jet2 than it was for TCX since the only non-NATO destinations they normally fly to are Malta and Cyprus. Admittedly there's GVA, but that's bi-national. with the other nation being France. TCX had lots of Tunisia and Egypt flights. And even in the case of Cyprus, there is an RAF base on the island, so non-NATO might not apply there.
Nickd92 wrote:Andy33 wrote:Channex757 wrote:These are Strategic Reserve aircraft.
They are bought by the AirTanker consortium as surge aircraft for the RAF in times of military need, and the consortium needs someone to operate them rather than just let them sit idle. On request they must be returned to AirTanker and the RAF immediately.
That means nonstandard lease contracts which could indeed be cheaper to reflect that clause plus others which (allegedly) exist. For instance operating to non-NATO countries was conspicuous by its absence when TCX had them.
In fact that would be less onerous for Jet2 than it was for TCX since the only non-NATO destinations they normally fly to are Malta and Cyprus. Admittedly there's GVA, but that's bi-national. with the other nation being France. TCX had lots of Tunisia and Egypt flights. And even in the case of Cyprus, there is an RAF base on the island, so non-NATO might not apply there.
A330 cannot go to Cyprus. And i don't think we'll see them in MLA for a long time. Currently MLA is a 738 destination from MAN - so only logical upgrade is to a 757 in the wake of TC or another flight or two.
TheWorm123 wrote:G-LSAG is currently circling the south Coast of Tenerife, it's a 757 so it can of course dump fuel which is what I assume it's doing before diverting back to TFS. Tenerife South to Leeds Airport Flight LS224.
Spacepope wrote:TheWorm123 wrote:G-LSAG is currently circling the south Coast of Tenerife, it's a 757 so it can of course dump fuel which is what I assume it's doing before diverting back to TFS. Tenerife South to Leeds Airport Flight LS224.
You sure about this 757 being capable of dumping fuel? From what I can surmise besides one a.net post to the contrary, 757s do not have that capability.
Spacepope wrote:You sure about this 757 being capable of dumping fuel? From what I can surmise besides one a.net post to the contrary, 757s do not have that capability
AAMDanny wrote:Aye IIRC the B757 does not have fuel dump capability. Actually I don't think the B767 does either.
Friends of mine at Jet2 all say G-LSAG is the dog of the fleet... but still a fine looking bird!
TheWorm123 wrote:LS917 (MAN - TFS) and LS918 (TFS - MAN return trip) has been flown by a 737-800 the past few times, which is the first break from the 757/A330 combo yet. I'm not sure if it is a sign of things to come or just less capacity is needed however.