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Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:44 am

As per Sam Chui's website, an Ethiopian Airlines 767-300 aircraft suffered uncontained engine failure while climbing out of Blaise Diagne International Airport few days ago

https://samchui.com/2019/10/09/ethiopia ... Z3Hu0ZKiUl
 
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:02 pm

720B wrote:
As per Sam Chui's website, an Ethiopian Airlines 767-300 aircraft suffered uncontained engine failure while climbing out of Blaise Diagne International Airport few days ago

https://samchui.com/2019/10/09/ethiopia ... Z3Hu0ZKiUl



Incorrect. It is very contained........ uncotained would have some or all of the rotational mass/parts to have left the confines of the cowl. The poster just forwarded the news but it appears incorrect as no breach of the cowl is noted.

Thanks for the info!
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:41 pm

avherald.com/h?article=4cdc777b&opt=0

avherald does talk about an uncontained engine failure

There are holes in the engine behind the cowl.

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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:17 pm

Looks to me the emergency was executed perfectly by the crew Kudos to ET training. Also glad DSS emergency services were ready and did their part. Posters on avherald.com reported it took 8 minutes to land from the time of failure. Pretty fast if report is substantiated.
 
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:24 pm

720B wrote:
As per Sam Chui's website, an Ethiopian Airlines 767-300 aircraft suffered uncontained engine failure while climbing out of Blaise Diagne International Airport few days ago

https://samchui.com/2019/10/09/ethiopia ... Z3Hu0ZKiUl


Gotta love people casually standing in fire fighting foam and smiling with regular shoes in one of the pictures. :mrgreen:
 
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:36 pm

Strato2 wrote:
720B wrote:
As per Sam Chui's website, an Ethiopian Airlines 767-300 aircraft suffered uncontained engine failure while climbing out of Blaise Diagne International Airport few days ago

https://samchui.com/2019/10/09/ethiopia ... Z3Hu0ZKiUl


Gotta love people casually standing in fire fighting foam and smiling with regular shoes in one of the pictures. :mrgreen:


And on a side note, isn't the 767 a good looking plane? Love the proportions depicted in that photo ;)

I am always amazed at the power of those engines - just one can keep that immense plane in the air, even just after take off! Glad it all worked out.
 
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:52 pm

Strato2 wrote:
720B wrote:
As per Sam Chui's website, an Ethiopian Airlines 767-300 aircraft suffered uncontained engine failure while climbing out of Blaise Diagne International Airport few days ago

https://samchui.com/2019/10/09/ethiopia ... Z3Hu0ZKiUl


Gotta love people casually standing in fire fighting foam and smiling with regular shoes in one of the pictures. :mrgreen:

Most likely, shoes are the least of concerns after such emergencies.
Also reminds me of this picture (another 767, actually):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv6miihWgAAGbJ7.jpg
 
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:06 pm

reltney wrote:
720B wrote:
As per Sam Chui's website, an Ethiopian Airlines 767-300 aircraft suffered uncontained engine failure while climbing out of Blaise Diagne International Airport few days ago

https://samchui.com/2019/10/09/ethiopia ... Z3Hu0ZKiUl



Incorrect. It is very contained........ uncotained would have some or all of the rotational mass/parts to have left the confines of the cowl. The poster just forwarded the news but it appears incorrect as no breach of the cowl is noted.

Thanks for the info!


Go look at the pictures. There are holes in the HPT section.
 
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:13 pm

JAAlbert wrote:

And on a side note, isn't the 767 a good looking plane?


At least it doesn't look... plain.... :)
 
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:14 pm

Astronage wrote:
reltney wrote:
720B wrote:
As per Sam Chui's website, an Ethiopian Airlines 767-300 aircraft suffered uncontained engine failure while climbing out of Blaise Diagne International Airport few days ago

https://samchui.com/2019/10/09/ethiopia ... Z3Hu0ZKiUl



Incorrect. It is very contained........ uncotained would have some or all of the rotational mass/parts to have left the confines of the cowl. The poster just forwarded the news but it appears incorrect as no breach of the cowl is noted.

Thanks for the info!


Go look at the pictures. There are holes in the HPT section.

Looks to me as those holes are burn-through holes, not perforations due to flying metal parts.
Compare with this pic of AA 767 in LAX: http://www.iasa-intl.com/folders/belfas ... es/aa2.jpg
And since AA got unlucky with 767 engines, this is ORD one: http://www.aviation-accidents.net/wp-co ... 83-1-1.jpg
I would say holes look quite different...
Maybe this is just splitting hairs, but looks like this is a different type failure.
 
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:28 pm

doesnt look good for Ethiopian Ailrlines
 
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:36 pm

The last part of the article:

A noteworthy addition is that this is the fourth serious incident for ET-AMG within five years:

In 2014 the aircraft performed a high-speed rejected takeoff.
In 2017 the aircraft collided with an Airbus A320 in Delhi.
In 2018 an engine failure caused cowl and fuselage damage.


Not sure if the aircraft is cursed or not, I think ET can retire this bird for better reason. Has there been any aircraft which got involved in as many incidents and fly again?
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:54 pm

I think the most important question is when was the last engine shop visit and which shop performed it?
ET may have had nothing to do with this failure, unless there was engine maintenance done by ET itself subsequent to the shop visit.

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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:37 am

Burn thru holes is what they are. Uncontained is usually nasty and looks like someone shot it from the inside to the outside. The damage in the photo is from fire..

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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:25 am

juliuswong wrote:
The last part of the article:

A noteworthy addition is that this is the fourth serious incident for ET-AMG within five years:

In 2014 the aircraft performed a high-speed rejected takeoff.
In 2017 the aircraft collided with an Airbus A320 in Delhi.
In 2018 an engine failure caused cowl and fuselage damage.


Not sure if the aircraft is cursed or not, I think ET can retire this bird for better reason. Has there been any aircraft which got involved in as many incidents and fly again?


Cursed? It's 2019, not 1619.

None of those can be considered serious incidents. SMH.
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:04 am

man... they are not lucky!!!!
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:31 am

Didn't realize they still flew the 767.
 
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:07 am

jmry888 wrote:
doesnt look good for Ethiopian Ailrlines


Why? Engine failures are one of the most common occurances. It has happened to most airlines.
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:50 am

jmry888 wrote:
doesnt look good for Ethiopian Ailrlines


Oh yeah? Why's that? Because their pilots executed an emergency landing perfectly? Yeah that's such a bad look!

I assume you'd post the exact same thing if this happened to American Airlines?
 
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Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:55 pm

JAAlbert wrote:
I am always amazed at the power of those engines - just one can keep that immense plane in the air, even just after take off! Glad it all worked out.


Isn’t that a certification requirement for any twinjet?

9w748capt wrote:
jmry888 wrote:
doesnt look good for Ethiopian Ailrlines


Oh yeah? Why's that? Because their pilots executed an emergency landing perfectly? Yeah that's such a bad look!

I assume you'd post the exact same thing if this happened to American Airlines?


Because people are already trying to blame Ethiopian for the deficiencies of the 737 MAX and this could add fuel to the fire.

That being said, this did happen to AA in rather spectacular fashion at ORD in 2016.

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