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MIA - Major Airport With No CRJ Service

Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:59 pm

It just occurred to me that MIA sees NO scheduled CRJ service. I wonder what other major airports in the USA also don't see CRJ service. Any ideas?
 
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Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:07 pm

What does DL use on CMH/DCA/IND-MIA? Judging by YouTube, it seems as the last scheduled CRJ into MIA was possibly 5 years ago...
 
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Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:13 pm

AA/American Eagle operate E145's to/from MIA, including segments to JAX, SAV. CHS and MEM.
 
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Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:14 pm

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AA/American Eagle operate E145's to/from MIA, including segments to JAX, SAV. CHS and MEM.


But no CRJ-700/900s.
 
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Re: MIA - Major Airport With No CRJ Service

Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:15 pm

Ishrion wrote:
What does DL use on CMH/DCA/IND-MIA? Judging by YouTube, it seems as the last scheduled CRJ into MIA was possibly 5 years ago...


I just did a quick search on Delta.com and looks like there's no nonstops between MIA and those cities.
 
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Re: MIA - Major Airport With No CRJ Service

Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:22 pm

That’s actually impressive.
 
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Re: MIA - Major Airport With No CRJ Service

Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:27 pm

N62NA wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
What does DL use on CMH/DCA/IND-MIA? Judging by YouTube, it seems as the last scheduled CRJ into MIA was possibly 5 years ago...


I just did a quick search on Delta.com and looks like there's no nonstops between MIA and those cities.


According to the Wiki (not the best source), they're seasonal flights. Unless you already checked a few dates around the year.
 
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Re: MIA - Major Airport With No CRJ Service

Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:34 pm

Ishrion wrote:
N62NA wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
What does DL use on CMH/DCA/IND-MIA? Judging by YouTube, it seems as the last scheduled CRJ into MIA was possibly 5 years ago...


I just did a quick search on Delta.com and looks like there's no nonstops between MIA and those cities.


According to the Wiki (not the best source), they're seasonal flights. Unless you already checked a few dates around the year.



I just (basically) current schedule, looking at Friday Oct 25 and Saturday Oct 26 just in case it was weekday only or weekend only. Nothing CMH/DCA/IND-MIA on DL.
 
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Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:39 pm

N62NA wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
N62NA wrote:

I just did a quick search on Delta.com and looks like there's no nonstops between MIA and those cities.


According to the Wiki (not the best source), they're seasonal flights. Unless you already checked a few dates around the year.



I just (basically) current schedule, looking at Friday Oct 25 and Saturday Oct 26 just in case it was weekday only or weekend only. Nothing CMH/DCA/IND-MIA on DL.


They use the E170/E175, because of the Republic Bases
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Re: MIA - Major Airport With No CRJ Service

Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:16 pm

N62NA wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
What does DL use on CMH/DCA/IND-MIA? Judging by YouTube, it seems as the last scheduled CRJ into MIA was possibly 5 years ago...


I just did a quick search on Delta.com and looks like there's no nonstops between MIA and those cities.


These are seasonal weekly flights for Spring Break that usually operate on Saturdays around March-April. These usually operate with regional jets that would normally operate routes like the NYC/DCA/BOS shuttle or other business markets that don't need the lift on Saturdays.

With the exception of MIA-IND, you'll find that Delta has already started loading MIA-DCA/CMH for the last 3 Saturdays in March 2020. You'll also notice that Delta has loaded Spring Break flights to MCO on the same dates from BNA/CLE/CMH/DCA/GRR/MEM/MKE/PIT - and likely a few others I didn't think to look up.
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Re: MIA - Major Airport With No CRJ Service

Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:20 pm

HNL and ANC no CRJs lol.
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Re: MIA - Major Airport With No CRJ Service

Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:52 pm

bluefltspecial wrote:
N62NA wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
What does DL use on CMH/DCA/IND-MIA? Judging by YouTube, it seems as the last scheduled CRJ into MIA was possibly 5 years ago...


I just did a quick search on Delta.com and looks like there's no nonstops between MIA and those cities.


These are seasonal weekly flights for Spring Break that usually operate on Saturdays around March-April. These usually operate with regional jets that would normally operate routes like the NYC/DCA/BOS shuttle or other business markets that don't need the lift on Saturdays.

With the exception of MIA-IND, you'll find that Delta has already started loading MIA-DCA/CMH for the last 3 Saturdays in March 2020. You'll also notice that Delta has loaded Spring Break flights to MCO on the same dates from BNA/CLE/CMH/DCA/GRR/MEM/MKE/PIT - and likely a few others I didn't think to look up.



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Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:05 am

DCA/RDU-MIA are currently loaded as CRJs in March. Could obviously change though.
 
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Re: MIA - Major Airport With No CRJ Service

Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:14 am

I think that LAS also has very little CRJ service, if any at all.

The last one that occurred that I can think of is the Elite Airways failed flight to CBD. Currently, AA operates no RJ flights to LAS, DL operates flights to seven destinations on the E175, and UA currently does not have RJ flights in the near future.

The closest thing I can think of in LAS is Contour's ERJ135s.
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Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:18 am

I barely see any at SEA these days. Come to think of it, I can't think of any regular operators now that QX ditched them. I think UA might have an occasional LAX-SEA flight, but they might have moved those to E170s. Might be off-base on that, but I'm drawing a blank on anyone else operating them here.
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Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:13 am

Come to think of it I don't believe there's any scheduled CRJ service in FLL.
 
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Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:16 am

Years ago....Air Tran Jet Connect operated by Air Wisconsin flew CRJs into MIA. I think ComAir also still had the MCO hub at the time.
 
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Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:25 pm

Ishrion wrote:
What does DL use on CMH/DCA/IND-MIA? Judging by YouTube, it seems as the last scheduled CRJ into MIA was possibly 5 years ago...


The last CRJ out of MIA was a Saturday Delta Connection flight in April. I had to give the fueler a refresher in the operation of the CRJ fuel panel since it was such an infrequent visitor.
 
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Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:07 pm

ORD?

**Kidding -- it's unbelievable the amount of CRJs here lol
 
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Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:27 pm

bohica wrote:
Come to think of it I don't believe there's any scheduled CRJ service in FLL.

FLL gets the occasional CRJ9 from RDU on DL. It's a healthy mix of 717/A319/A320/CRJ9.

Pretty sure MCO has zero CRJs however.
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Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:59 pm

gunsontheroof wrote:
I barely see any at SEA these days. Come to think of it, I can't think of any regular operators now that QX ditched them. I think UA might have an occasional LAX-SEA flight, but they might have moved those to E170s. Might be off-base on that, but I'm drawing a blank on anyone else operating them here.


I was going to say SEA too, but Air Canada flies in one CR9 from YVR. That’s the only one left otherwise it’s mainly DH4s on AC. SEA used to have a lot with Delta before the E7W showed up though and now they’re almost non-existent in SEA. UA express in SEA is all E7W now too
 
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Re: MIA - Major Airport With No CRJ Service

Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:01 am

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That’s actually impressive.

I had thoughts along similar lines. I followed this thread until it was confirmed. Wow...

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Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:41 am

Regional jets are relatively rare at the big Florida airports. It’s a volume market.
 
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Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:54 am

jeffh747 wrote:
bohica wrote:
Come to think of it I don't believe there's any scheduled CRJ service in FLL.

FLL gets the occasional CRJ9 from RDU on DL. It's a healthy mix of 717/A319/A320/CRJ9.

Pretty sure MCO has zero CRJs however.

I think DL STL-MCO was on one but they axed that this year
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Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:14 am

jonair8 wrote:
gunsontheroof wrote:
I barely see any at SEA these days. Come to think of it, I can't think of any regular operators now that QX ditched them. I think UA might have an occasional LAX-SEA flight, but they might have moved those to E170s. Might be off-base on that, but I'm drawing a blank on anyone else operating them here.


I was going to say SEA too, but Air Canada flies in one CR9 from YVR. That’s the only one left otherwise it’s mainly DH4s on AC. SEA used to have a lot with Delta before the E7W showed up though and now they’re almost non-existent in SEA. UA express in SEA is all E7W now too


Have no fear, UA has scheduled daily CR7s and CRJ-200s on Saturdays SEA-LAX after the new year. Hard pass on that for me.
 
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Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:15 am

I never knew Miami could be heaven, but it does seem there there is a heaven, a place with NO CRJ'S!
 
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Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:15 am

Another airport that barely sees any is AUS. Looking at the flight schedule tomorrow they only have two DL CR9s from CVG and RDU. That's strange to me because I used to always fly from PHX-AUS (on HP/US/AA) and it was almost always on a CR9, and it seems like not long ago a lot of flights into that airport were regional jets. Now, it looks like almost all of the regional flights into there now are the E170s.
 
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Another airport that barely sees any is AUS. Looking at the flight schedule tomorrow they only have two DL CR9s from CVG and RDU. That's strange to me because I used to always fly from PHX-AUS (on HP/US/AA) and it was almost always on a CR9, and it seems like not long ago a lot of flights into that airport were regional jets. Now, it looks like almost all of the regional flights into there now are the E170s.


Premerger LUS CLT/PHX-AUS was predominantly CR9, maybe with an odd mainline thrown in. Both are all mainline now.


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Didn't UA used to use a CRJ-700 on MIA-IAD?
 
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I never knew Miami could be heaven, but it does seem there there is a heaven, a place with NO CRJ'S!


I'm not sure how the E145 can be considered so much better. That narrow cabin is quite claustrophobic. If there's a seat open next to you on the CRJ it isn't bad at all.
 
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Didn't UA used to use a CRJ-700 on MIA-IAD?


Yes, a GoJet CRJ700 this past winter. Most recently they were using a Mesa E175 on MIA-IAH a few months ago, but they’re back to all mainline now.
 
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Another airport that barely sees any is AUS. Looking at the flight schedule tomorrow they only have two DL CR9s from CVG and RDU. That's strange to me because I used to always fly from PHX-AUS (on HP/US/AA) and it was almost always on a CR9, and it seems like not long ago a lot of flights into that airport were regional jets. Now, it looks like almost all of the regional flights into there now are the E170s.


It seems that our regional flying is slowly dwindling away - which I can't complain. Coming from FAT where nearly everything is a CRJ, Austin was literally a breath of fresh air. (Fresno also has the worst air quality in the nation, that was a pun.)
 
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Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:58 am

Not true as there are CRJ's during parts of the year. Mind you call them what they all are regional jets. It's a cheap attempt to make MIA more important than other airports. MIA has RJ's like everyone else these days. Get over it.
 
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TTailedTiger wrote:
JohnAudiR18 wrote:
I never knew Miami could be heaven, but it does seem there there is a heaven, a place with NO CRJ'S!


I'm not sure how the E145 can be considered so much better. That narrow cabin is quite claustrophobic. If there's a seat open next to you on the CRJ it isn't bad at all.

The E145 is lovely! I have a lovely single seat that i can try to get when I standby, and worst comes to worst? I'm at bulkhead with non-moveable armrests. CJ2's can't give me a single seat, and to be honest, i've never had a good CRJ experince in 2's by Skywest, in 7's by Envoy, SkyWest, and 9's by Mesa, and PSA. Even in first it isn't much better.
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Not true as there are CRJ's during parts of the year. Mind you call them what they all are regional jets. It's a cheap attempt to make MIA more important than other airports. MIA has RJ's like everyone else these days. Get over it.


Who’s trying to make MIA seem more important? The OP pointed out an oddity that such a busy airport sees no CRJ movements most of the year and it sparked a discussion about other major airports where this is the case.
 
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Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:43 pm

Historically, during the RJ craze in the 90s and 2000s, Miami transitioned to a fortress hub for AA.

Many domestic carriers moved service to FLL to avoid high costs and AA.

AA hung onto a very dated regional model thru BK

Few CRJ 700s (out of DFW and ORD), ERJs at other hubs, and turbo props at MIA and SJU. All operated under one airline (With the exception of some contract flying out of St. Louis). The turbo props flew under a different certificate called Executive at American Eagle Airlines.

Once AA diversified its regional feed in BK, the CRJs were from a different era. E Jets predominated.

Furthermore, historically, intra florida works well with turboprops or mainline where needed. It hasnt worked well on RJs of any type.

You would be hard pressed to find a successful RJ hub intra-Florida operation in the history of RJs
 
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jeffh747 wrote:
bohica wrote:
Come to think of it I don't believe there's any scheduled CRJ service in FLL.

FLL gets the occasional CRJ9 from RDU on DL. It's a healthy mix of 717/A319/A320/CRJ9.

Pretty sure MCO has zero CRJs however.

I think DL STL-MCO was on one but they axed that this year

Wow! I had no idea that DL flew that route at all. Definitely a random flight it sounds.
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Historically, during the RJ craze in the 90s and 2000s, Miami transitioned to a fortress hub for AA.

Many domestic carriers moved service to FLL to avoid high costs and AA.

AA hung onto a very dated regional model thru BK

Few CRJ 700s (out of DFW and ORD), ERJs at other hubs, and turbo props at MIA and SJU. All operated under one airline (With the exception of some contract flying out of St. Louis). The turbo props flew under a different certificate called Executive at American Eagle Airlines.

Once AA diversified its regional feed in BK, the CRJs were from a different era. E Jets predominated.

Furthermore, historically, intra florida works well with turboprops or mainline where needed. It hasnt worked well on RJs of any type.

You would be hard pressed to find a successful RJ hub intra-Florida operation in the history of RJs



How was AA's model "dated" through BK? The current contractor model is a f*cking mess!
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jeffh747 wrote:
stl07 wrote:
jeffh747 wrote:
FLL gets the occasional CRJ9 from RDU on DL. It's a healthy mix of 717/A319/A320/CRJ9.

Pretty sure MCO has zero CRJs however.

I think DL STL-MCO was on one but they axed that this year

Wow! I had no idea that DL flew that route at all. Definitely a random flight it sounds.


After CO merged, they were the only one with that model.

Costs are baked in. Fleet baked in.

There is good and bad in that.

I think it is sad what happened to the regional industry...but AS didnt keep up in a timely manner
 
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How was AA's model "dated" through BK?


Pre Ch 11, AA had very few 2-class RJ's. You can see how the contractor fleets have added CR9s and E75s quite rapidly since then.
 
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bluefltspecial wrote:
N62NA wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
What does DL use on CMH/DCA/IND-MIA? Judging by YouTube, it seems as the last scheduled CRJ into MIA was possibly 5 years ago...


I just did a quick search on Delta.com and looks like there's no nonstops between MIA and those cities.


These are seasonal weekly flights for Spring Break that usually operate on Saturdays around March-April. These usually operate with regional jets that would normally operate routes like the NYC/DCA/BOS shuttle or other business markets that don't need the lift on Saturdays.

With the exception of MIA-IND, you'll find that Delta has already started loading MIA-DCA/CMH for the last 3 Saturdays in March 2020. You'll also notice that Delta has loaded Spring Break flights to MCO on the same dates from BNA/CLE/CMH/DCA/GRR/MEM/MKE/PIT - and likely a few others I didn't think to look up.


Just like MCO-STL and a few others on Saturdays. They literally ran two flights last year, though.

Edit...just looked upthread and apparently they axed it.
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maps4ltd wrote:
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N62NA wrote:

I just did a quick search on Delta.com and looks like there's no nonstops between MIA and those cities.


These are seasonal weekly flights for Spring Break that usually operate on Saturdays around March-April. These usually operate with regional jets that would normally operate routes like the NYC/DCA/BOS shuttle or other business markets that don't need the lift on Saturdays.

With the exception of MIA-IND, you'll find that Delta has already started loading MIA-DCA/CMH for the last 3 Saturdays in March 2020. You'll also notice that Delta has loaded Spring Break flights to MCO on the same dates from BNA/CLE/CMH/DCA/GRR/MEM/MKE/PIT - and likely a few others I didn't think to look up.


Just like MCO-STL and a few others on Saturdays. They literally ran two flights last year, though.

Edit...just looked upthread and apparently they axed it.


They ran it March and Summer June-August-ish this year. It isn't showing up next year but I am not convinced it won't be loaded back in at some point. Other years they took it off then added it back later.
 
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Another airport that barely sees any is AUS. Looking at the flight schedule tomorrow they only have two DL CR9s from CVG and RDU. That's strange to me because I used to always fly from PHX-AUS (on HP/US/AA) and it was almost always on a CR9, and it seems like not long ago a lot of flights into that airport were regional jets. Now, it looks like almost all of the regional flights into there now are the E170s.


It seems that our regional flying is slowly dwindling away - which I can't complain. Coming from FAT where nearly everything is a CRJ, Austin was literally a breath of fresh air. (Fresno also has the worst air quality in the nation, that was a pun.)


I guess it’s been a while since you have been in FAT. The only CR2’s left at FAT are UA to LAX/SFO/DEN, but not all of them are (there’s even mainline on UA to DEN now). A growing number of regional flights are on E-175s, and all of AS and DL’s flights are now on E-jets. The airport has the largest number of mainline flights in its history; you can get to DEN/DFW/LAS/ORD/PHX, plus three cities in Mexico on mainline aircraft.
 
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Not true as there are CRJ's during parts of the year. Mind you call them what they all are regional jets. It's a cheap attempt to make MIA more important than other airports. MIA has RJ's like everyone else these days. Get over it.



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Next time MIA will see CRJ's of any type will be March, when for the entire month it will see 6 CR7's from GoJet dba Delta Connection. RDU-MIA-RDU
 
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I never knew Miami could be heaven, but it does seem there there is a heaven, a place with NO CRJ'S!


I'm not sure how the E145 can be considered so much better. That narrow cabin is quite claustrophobic. If there's a seat open next to you on the CRJ it isn't bad at all.



..errr...yeah, but to me the 145 'feels' a bit better...not sure I can pin it down precisely to what, but if feels a tad 'softer' and less 'tinny'?..It may have to do with the average CRJ old battered interior and thin hard seats...the 145 seems to offer a slightly better per-pax space ratio at shoulder level, and maybe bigger windows, whilst the CRJ feels positively cramped. I must say though that the newer -700/-900s are a much more civilized ride...the nicer cabin, better alignment of the windows and far better lighting and insulation do the trick...these 'details' have improved pax comfort quite dramatically IMHO over the Jurassic CRJ..
Still, I'd prefer the CRJ-100/200 over the Q400 - I cannot get over how crude and unrefined a ride on the DH8 feels to me...

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