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Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:03 pm

Im just curious of the history of the widespread use of the color Brown at EWR.

Jetways

Monorail

Lighting

Signage

Any exterior finishes

How did that come to pass?

Does it continue in the new Terminal 1?
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:35 pm

Back when the new ATL terminal opened, "calm you down brown" was the dominant color. Something about earth tones, perhaps.
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:45 pm

lat41 wrote:
Back when the new ATL terminal opened, "calm you down brown" was the dominant color. Something about earth tones, perhaps.


Look at the MCO tenant manual - and the current MCO terminal opened a year after ATL’s.

The mandate for signage at MCO is “airport brown” with Frutiger 55 as the mandatory font. (ATL’s terminal started with Helvetica but eventually changed to Frutiger as well, but Frutiger 65 Bold, when the current signage system was introduced for the 1996 Summer Olympics.)
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:51 pm

I almost thought the title said, “why is everyone at EWR brown”.
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:14 am

How about the fact that EWR's terminals date from the late 1960's and early 1970's (except for United's Terminal C). Brown was a pretty common color back then. And, as anybody who's flown through Newark can tell you, the terminal hasn't exactly been updated in the last thirty years :-)
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:39 am

What can brown do for you?
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:13 am

I hate brown / cream / orange color schemes that most places such as airports, hospitals, buildings, interiors look now a days. SO UGLY!!!
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:25 am

superjeff wrote:
How about the fact that EWR's terminals date from the late 1960's and early 1970's (except for United's Terminal C). Brown was a pretty common color back then. And, as anybody who's flown through Newark can tell you, the terminal hasn't exactly been updated in the last thirty years :-)


Probably, but thats 50 years ago.

It's been like that since I first flew into there in 1993. Looked dated back then too. And what's up with carpets in airports in the US?
 
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Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:31 am

Blue is the new brown
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:05 am

DCA uses a brownish-purple as well. It goes well with the airport's overall color scheme (and obsession) with 1990s yellow beige.
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:16 am

Brown is a color with commonalities to other similar things.
 
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Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:30 am

Welcome to the 70's!
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:45 am

As I recall, the overhead signage (to baggage claim, etc.) within Terminal C is yellow.
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:11 am

The Pan Am Worldport of 1970 was also brown.
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:14 am

FWIW, the PA-owned jetbridges in B are being painted blue.
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:19 am

jfklganyc wrote:
Im just curious of the history of the widespread use of the color Brown at EWR.

Jetways

Monorail

Lighting

Signage

Any exterior finishes

How did that come to pass?

Does it continue in the new Terminal 1?


The area surrounding EWR is full of things that stink bad: oil refineries, chemical factories, swamps, highways, rail yards.

So the brown color accurately represents the smelly environment in that part of New Jersey.
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:40 am

superjeff wrote:
How about the fact that EWR's terminals date from the late 1960's and early 1970's (except for United's Terminal C). Brown was a pretty common color back then. And, as anybody who's flown through Newark can tell you, the terminal hasn't exactly been updated in the last thirty years :-)


Ya well the crazy thing is that 30 years ago was 1989. Not the 60's or 70's. Go back 50 years and I see your point.
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:52 am

It's interesting because airports are usually all brown, or shades of grey/blue. Much like Boeing cockpits and Airbus cockpits respectively. I have only been to T4 recently in PHX, and it is mostly brown inside and out too. It's probably a good guess that you don't want aggressive coloring winding people up just before boarding.
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:54 am

Brown hides dirt well.
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:56 am

brown and brown-ish colours tends to calm people's mind.
as light blue, light green and light pink. greys also, but greys like dark blue tends to make people sad.
reds the opposite. it has to be a really dark red to be suitable for walls painting in a public place. but a really dark red = brown.
whites are difficult to keep clean. a very white wall is indeed very nice - but it takes less than a month to become dirty. no one likes dirty walls, regardless of the colours.
you can match light and dark browns in a public place. also browns, blacks, dark blues or dark reds and golds to give to the place a "rich" sensation.
then there are the decades: pastel colours (light beige, sky blue, pink) were predominant during the 50s and 60s. burgundry, reds, mustard yellow (and yellows in general) were predominant during the 70s. browns, golds, patterned greys were predominant in the 80s. 90s and 00s took again pastel colours but brighter, "neon-like" colours were used. white was also much used. the vaporwave movement brings the 90s - 00s aesthetic. late 00s and 10s have greys and bright white as predominant colours. they give everything a very "technological" look.
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:19 am

That was modern in the 70s. In Hamburg we have/had several underground train Stations built in that timeframe which are mainly brown, in combination with orangish/yellowish/beige colors. Looks horrible with todays taste, luckily many of them have been modernized already.
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:24 am

hz747300 wrote:
It's interesting because airports are usually all brown, or shades of grey/blue. Much like Boeing cockpits and Airbus cockpits respectively. I have only been to T4 recently in PHX, and it is mostly brown inside and out too. It's probably a good guess that you don't want aggressive coloring winding people up just before boarding.


The difference here being, everything in PHX is brown.
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:44 pm

Part of it is just the architecture of the era, but another part of it is just that various shades of brown are natural colors and you'll find them everywhere.

Take concrete, for example - you might think of it as grey, but a lot of concrete (particularly for buildings, as opposed to roads) will have warm color tones and lots of brown-ish shades. Warm grey tones and warm brown tones often mix very well. This color palate was certainly in style in the 70s, but for a reason - it works pretty well.

For painting lots of other things (like the AirTrain guideway), brown paint on steel materials hides dirt and rust well.
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:25 pm

Max999 wrote:
The area surrounding EWR is full of things that stink bad: oil refineries, chemical factories, swamps, highways, rail yards.

So the brown color accurately represents the smelly environment in that part of New Jersey.

I suppose Manhattan smells like a bed of roses? Walk down any cross street in midtown and you can enjoy the special aroma of overflowing trash bins and sludgy stuff on the sidewalks. Ahhh Wilderness! Also, some of what you may smell could be from the enormous garbage dump on Staten Island. I think it was name Mt. Koch in the late NYC mayor's honor!

Before you say anything, I lived in the East Village section of Manhattan, in Brooklyn near Prospect Park and in 2 neighborhoods in Queens for about 14 years from the early 1970s through the later 1980s. Let me tell you, none of them were aromatic paragons!
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:49 pm

Good question, the good news is that it’s slowly disappearing with different colors on the steel structures in terminal A/B (looks strange) and then with the new Terminal 1.
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:50 pm

TTailedTiger wrote:
Brown hides dirt well.


The old British Army red was supposedly to hide blood, so legend goes, otherwise it might sap morale in battle. Maybe the brown is a hangover from the days when travellers were more nervous. Wouldn't want to sap morale in the departure lounge.
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:02 pm

I thought it was why we always called it Sewark?
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:06 pm

Chemist wrote:
Brown is a color with commonalities to other similar things.

Yellow too.

max999 wrote:
The area surrounding EWR is full of things that stink bad: oil refineries, chemical factories, swamps, highways, rail yards.

So the brown color accurately represents the smelly environment in that part of New Jersey.

Both the local NFL football teams also stink! :biggrin:
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:27 pm

max999 wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
Im just curious of the history of the widespread use of the color Brown at EWR.

Jetways

Monorail

Lighting

Signage

Any exterior finishes

How did that come to pass?

Does it continue in the new Terminal 1?


The area surrounding EWR is full of things that stink bad: oil refineries, chemical factories, swamps, highways, rail yards.

So the brown color accurately represents the smelly environment in that part of New Jersey.



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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:32 pm

Personally, I just view it as EWR accepting it's place among the 3 NYC airports/accepting it's surroundings (Sarcasm)
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:55 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
Im just curious of the history of the widespread use of the color Brown at EWR.

Jetways

Monorail

Lighting

Signage

Any exterior finishes

How did that come to pass?

Does it continue in the new Terminal 1?



because is damm old and needs a major renovation
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:03 pm

[quote="JohnAudiR18"]Personally, I just view it as EWR accepting it's place among the 3 NYC airports/accepting it's surroundings (Sarcasm)[/quote

I don't understand this comment at all. Accepting vs excepting perhaps? I believe EWR is #2 in traffic.
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:25 pm

Why is everything in a Boeing cockpit brown?
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:51 pm

When the original A, B & C terminals were drawn up in the early 1970's brown and other 'earth' tones were very popular and in style then. It also worked well with the exposed concrete structure.
As to the claimed 'stink' around EWR, consider there is also the lovely scent of beer brewing nearby from a Budwiser plant to the west of the airport.The building has a large neon lit sign of an eagle.
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:54 pm

Busyboy2 wrote:
superjeff wrote:
How about the fact that EWR's terminals date from the late 1960's and early 1970's (except for United's Terminal C). Brown was a pretty common color back then. And, as anybody who's flown through Newark can tell you, the terminal hasn't exactly been updated in the last thirty years :-)


Ya well the crazy thing is that 30 years ago was 1989. Not the 60's or 70's. Go back 50 years and I see your point.



Very true. I'm apparently dating myself :-(
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:30 pm

caljn wrote:
JohnAudiR18 wrote:
Personally, I just view it as EWR accepting it's place among the 3 NYC airports/accepting it's surroundings (Sarcasm)[/quote

I don't understand this comment at all. Accepting vs excepting perhaps? I believe EWR is #2 in traffic.

It's a jab at New Yorkers/New Jersians/New York Airports, I wasn't good at the delivery
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:04 pm

There is a whole science around colors and how the brain reacts to them.

Go into a casino, you will see lots of red and purples, they stimulate the brain, a large public building such as an airport, brown, gray, blues and green all have a calming effect.
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:19 am

Earth tones and browns were huge in the late 1960s and early 1970s, when EWR was designed and built. Look at MCI and DFW, two of the other large airport projects done in the US during that same time period. Almost identical use of concrete, smoked glass, and brown/rust/ochre colors. Same story with the SAN, SMF, JAX, IAH, ORF and TPA terminals built around that era.
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:36 am

I lived in NJ in the early 1970s. I made several trips through the old terminal. Now, that was a brown experience. When the current terminal opened, I thought it was heaven. The circular concourses seemed spacious and inviting compared to similar structures at LAX and ATL. Now, I guess it’s old and dumpy to many. That area did have an orange haze and off putting aroma even then.
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:33 am

Well I guess the bumper sticker I got that says “kiss her where it smells, take her to New Jersey” accurately describes the place eh?
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:28 am

At least the color would not change due to all of the thousands of smokers back then.
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:05 am

max999 wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
Im just curious of the history of the widespread use of the color Brown at EWR.

Jetways

Monorail

Lighting

Signage

Any exterior finishes

How did that come to pass?

Does it continue in the new Terminal 1?


The area surrounding EWR is full of things that stink bad: oil refineries, chemical factories, swamps, highways, rail yards.

So the brown color accurately represents the smelly environment in that part of New Jersey.


My guess is at least part of that awesome brown luster is just a layer of filth, kerosine, pollution & a selection of local contaminants,
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:30 am

airtrantpa wrote:
Well I guess the bumper sticker I got that says “kiss her where it smells, take her to New Jersey” accurately describes the place eh?

Jersey south of Edison needs to secede and form our own state. North Jersey can have Trenton and Camden too.. :biggrin: EWR's Terminal A is the reason I fly out of PHL,
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:29 am

superjeff wrote:
How about the fact that EWR's terminals date from the late 1960's and early 1970's (except for United's Terminal C). Brown was a pretty common color back then. And, as anybody who's flown through Newark can tell you, the terminal hasn't exactly been updated in the last thirty years :-)


In London, the 70s spawned what was known as 'Arab Brown' though I've never known why.Perhaps it was the sudden influx of Oil Money from the Gulf States sloshing into the West, and their prediliction for that particular hue making its way into interior design. I never cared for it myself.
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:41 pm

lhrnue wrote:
Why is everything in a Boeing cockpit brown?


Never saw a 727 or 737 flight deck that was brown - only gray.
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:32 pm

Well, Brown is better than Pink....
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:04 am

I have to say they are moving along nicely on that new terminal one.

Smaller than I thought though. Space issues are a big problem at EWR
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:48 pm

Because it’s poop.
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:01 pm

I miss the earth tone brown slowly disappearing at DFW. Who knew that a white terminal facade would get dingy in a couple of years? Who knew?
 
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Re: Why is everything at EWR Brown?

Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:24 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
I have to say they are moving along nicely on that new terminal one.

Smaller than I thought though. Space issues are a big problem at EWR


The new Terminal Two , which will be connected to Terminal One, dwarfs it. Terminal Two looks like it might be the largest single terminal in the region.

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