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jfklganyc wrote:Single runway ops since this afternoon
5.5 hour delays
Several ground stops
30 plus planes in a slow line for takeoff
Few arrivals
31R reopens in November
Alitalia744 wrote:Yep. Sitting on DL48. Said at least an hour and a half taxi time.
Alitalia744 wrote:Yep. Sitting on DL48. Said at least an hour and a half taxi time.
Skisandy wrote:Frequency, people want frequency!
Small planes, a departure to each major city every half hour.
Of course, runway problems, weather etc...then add a 3-5 hour delay,
but I am oh so happy that I could choose my exact departure time - though
nothing departs at that time.
It is absurd to have all these small planes, flying coast to coast.
20 years ago we had comfortable DC10's and L1011's. Now we have
737's and A320's. And are sitting on the runway, cramped and miserable.
Airliners.net members are salivating about every new narrow body trans-
Atlantic flight and are praying for the day when an A220 flies
nonstop to South Africa, just add a few fuel tanks.
I never understood the fun of sitting in a 1 1/2 hour queue lined
up for take off.
Skisandy wrote:Frequency, people want frequency!
Small planes, a departure to each major city every half hour.
Of course, runway problems, weather etc...then add a 3-5 hour delay,
but I am oh so happy that I could choose my exact departure time - though
nothing departs at that time.
It is absurd to have all these small planes, flying coast to coast.
20 years ago we had comfortable DC10's and L1011's. Now we have
737's and A320's. And are sitting on the runway, cramped and miserable.
Airliners.net members are salivating about every new narrow body trans-
Atlantic flight and are praying for the day when an A220 flies
nonstop to South Africa, just add a few fuel tanks.
I never understood the fun of sitting in a 1 1/2 hour queue lined
up for take off.
sonicruiser wrote:Does anybody at JFK right now have a pic of this aircraft queue?
mcogator wrote:I remember taxiing out at JFK and falling asleep in my coach seat only to wake up 2 hrs later and realizing we hadn't left yet. That was fun.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:No, it’s planned for. They have pretty good idea what the taxi-out times will be, but sometimes they go back for fuel
Skisandy wrote:Frequency, people want frequency!
Small planes, a departure to each major city every half hour.
Of course, runway problems, weather etc...then add a 3-5 hour delay,
but I am oh so happy that I could choose my exact departure time - though
nothing departs at that time.
It is absurd to have all these small planes, flying coast to coast.
20 years ago we had comfortable DC10's and L1011's. Now we have
737's and A320's. And are sitting on the runway, cramped and miserable.
Airliners.net members are salivating about every new narrow body trans-
Atlantic flight and are praying for the day when an A220 flies
nonstop to South Africa, just add a few fuel tanks.
I never understood the fun of sitting in a 1 1/2 hour queue lined
up for take off.
N757ST wrote:I was one of the last arrivals on the 22s today. Gusting to 42 across the runway and within 1 knot of the airframe limit. It was sporty to say the least.
lightsaber wrote:N757ST wrote:I was one of the last arrivals on the 22s today. Gusting to 42 across the runway and within 1 knot of the airframe limit. It was sporty to say the least.
1 knot? That's margin.
Ok, bad jokes aside, that is why down to 1 runway.
JFK needs more capacity. But how?
Lightsaber
GalaxyFlyer wrote:That reminds of the C-5’s rather complicated crosswind chart the F/E used—it was calibrated as the limiting dry component of 32.5 knots. The eng would take the reported wind, chase thru a couple curves and say, “you’re within (or out) by half a knot”.
Grrflyer wrote:I’m on AF011 been on the runway in queue for a couple hours but just starting to move now ✌️
kanye wrote:Not using TSAT in USA?
In Europe all planes would wait at the gate and at a certain time start up and pushback in order to keep taxi time to a minimum.
airboss787 wrote:GalaxyFlyer wrote:No, it’s planned for. They have pretty good idea what the taxi-out times will be, but sometimes they go back for fuel
And then join the back of the line or do they get to jump to where they were?
flyinghippo wrote:airboss787 wrote:GalaxyFlyer wrote:No, it’s planned for. They have pretty good idea what the taxi-out times will be, but sometimes they go back for fuel
And then join the back of the line or do they get to jump to where they were?
No - all planes that were waiting on 22R and Yankee taxi way had their engines shut off while the tower clear the queue on 22L. Once there were about 10 planes left on 22L, the tower asked all planes on 22R start up their engines.
TransWorldOne wrote:I'm in the queue now as well. Pushed back over two hours ago. Flight attendants just came through with drinks and snacks. In less than an hour from now we will have to go back to the gate with the option to deplane per DOT regulations. Fun times!
sonicruiser wrote:For anybody that sees this thread later, this is what it looked like as of 9:22PM EST Oct 17:
ODwyerPW wrote:sonicruiser wrote:For anybody that sees this thread later, this is what it looked like as of 9:22PM EST Oct 17:
How do you get a view of airport traffic like that? That is amazing.
ODwyerPW wrote:sonicruiser wrote:For anybody that sees this thread later, this is what it looked like as of 9:22PM EST Oct 17:
How do you get a view of airport traffic like that? That is amazing.
airboss787 wrote:Banning widebody aircraft will only worsen the problem don't you think?
Babyshark wrote:sonicruiser wrote:Does anybody at JFK right now have a pic of this aircraft queue?
Try airportviewer.com
Looks like 48 lined up... like the old days
I'm here too. I think that pic above didnt do it justice they're lined up everywhere. They closed arrivals and put everyone in holding to try and clear up the mess.