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B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:21 am

Looks like it is all zeroed out after that

Poor B6. Great little airline with a management team that seems adrift...
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:52 am

Now confirmed.

Ends 1/9
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:28 pm

Seems like quite a few MEX routes have been reduced/cancelled by US carriers in the last few years. Is the DL/AM joint venture that tough to compete with? Is MEX point of sale primarily from the Mexican side? Opinions, please.
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:28 pm

It's not like this is unique to B6, WN experienced similar.

Neither does particularly well in LatAm markets that aren't driven primarily by stateside point of sale.
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:32 pm

DELTA777 wrote:
JetBlue will be closing Mexico City early next year. Currently, JetBlue operates 4 flights per day to BOS,JFK,FLL and MCO.


It strikes me as odd that they're abandoning MEX entirely rather than suspending a route or two. NYC/SoFla/MCO-MEX are all pretty big markets.
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:35 pm

I would not say closing MEX means B6 has poor management. US LCC's have struggled in Mexico outside of the beach markets, where the point-of-sale skews much more towards Mexico. WN has the same issue.
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:52 pm

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NYC/SoFla/MCO-MEX are all pretty big markets.

...with pretty big competition, nearly all of which can adjust to market point of sale and seasonality better than B6 (or WN).
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:52 pm

That's a problem they're going to need to fix long-term because there's a lot of travel - including high fare business travel - to non-beach markets in Mexico. Look at AA/UA/DL route maps.
 
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B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:31 pm

MEX is one of the largest markets in Latin America. MEX-MCO skews almost entirely MEX POS, which makes sense as to why B6 struggled on that route. However, South Florida is a large market to MEX, if FLL is your main hub to Latin America you should at least have a daily flight to MEX. BOS-MEX always struck me as odd on B6.


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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:32 pm

Are they closing all flights? JFK,BOS,FLL and MCO?
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:35 pm

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Are they closing all flights? JFK,BOS,FLL and MCO?


They appear to be closing the station as of 1/9.


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Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:44 pm

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Planeboy17 wrote:
Are they closing all flights? JFK,BOS,FLL and MCO?


They appear to be closing the station as of 1/9.


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Thanks, now I see it in the other thread.
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:56 pm

Today we are announcing the closure of our Mexico City operation effective January 9, 2020. Mexico City has been a challenging market for JetBlue since our debut in October 2015. Despite great Customer service from our local team and our best efforts to improve the financial performance of our MEX flights by adjusting flights and destinations over the past four years, our local operation is unprofitable with losses that are no longer sustainable.

We constantly monitor the performance of every route and every BlueCity in our network and need to ensure our aircraft are in the places where they have the best opportunity for profitability.

MEX flights have underperformed due to low industry fares, excess capacity, and a reduction in demand for travel between the U.S. and Mexico.

The aircraft time currently dedicated to Mexico City will be redeployed to add more capacity in key markets that are growing successfully, including Boston and Fort Lauderdale.

Our three local Crewmembers will be offered a severance package from JetBlue. Our above- and below-wing operations are handled by a Business Partner.
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:58 pm

Things like internet sales and credit card use are not that high in many markets.

Unless an airline is willing to invest in older distribution methods like having ticket offices, working with travel agents or other public facing sales channels and accepting that cash is king, they will struggle in such markets.
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:35 pm

Alaska quit MEX twice once after selling 2 slots to AA and then acquiring more only to quit MEX again.
Southwest quit. Jetblue quitting MEX. Frontier and Spirit were smart enough to not even try flying there.
MEX isn't the big profit center that some airlines thought it would be.
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:43 pm

I am surprised that no one outside the US3 has had any success with non beach Mexican destinations aside from AS at GDL. I would have thought someone would have been able to crack the Mexican POS by now.
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:52 pm

Wow this is quite shocking...

But they still fly to Cuba?

B6 management is just golden isnt it?
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:02 pm

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Wow this is quite shocking...

But they still fly to Cuba?

B6 management is just golden isnt it?


The FLL/MCO-Cuba flights may be doing well enough, that being said not sure why they insist on keeping BOS/JFK-HAV.


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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:06 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
Looks like it is all zeroed out after that

Poor B6. Great little airline with a management team that seems adrift...


Why is ending an underperforming route in a market where all the peers are also pulling down capacity indicative of a management team that’s adrift? Seems more indicative of a management team that it decisive in redeploying assets to make profits.
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:00 pm

chepos wrote:
santi319 wrote:
Wow this is quite shocking...

But they still fly to Cuba?

B6 management is just golden isnt it?


The FLL/MCO-Cuba flights may be doing well enough, that being said not sure why they insist on keeping BOS/JFK-HAV.


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The entire Cuban network is losing money but JetBlue management views Cuba and slots in Cuban airports as “strategic assets” that maybe valuable in the future. How long will they allow the bleeding to continue? Your guess is as good as mine.
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:05 pm

catiii wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
Looks like it is all zeroed out after that

Poor B6. Great little airline with a management team that seems adrift...


Why is ending an underperforming route in a market where all the peers are also pulling down capacity indicative of a management team that’s adrift? Seems more indicative of a management team that it decisive in redeploying assets to make profits.



Ending a lot of markets as of late.

Not good.

Hope they dont expect light competition ahead in the TA market.

They are about to face competition like they never saw in their collective airline lives

Not for the faint of heart
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:06 pm

JetBlue should try Pacific Mexican cities.
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:12 pm

Yet they continue to avoid most of Central America like the plague. If it’s VFR markets they are chasing GUA SAP SAL PTY etc are all ready for them. If it’s tourism markets they want, BZE RTB are opportunities. The former esp from JFK.
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:27 pm

:crying: :crying: this is indeed a very shocking news. I was part of the opening team, sent from different Blue Cities to help with the opening. I made great friendships while I was there, in fact I still keep in touch with many of them. SAD very SAD indeed.
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:29 pm

LightChop2Chop wrote:
Yet they continue to avoid most of Central America like the plague. If it’s VFR markets they are chasing GUA SAP SAL PTY etc are all ready for them. If it’s tourism markets they want, BZE RTB are opportunities. The former esp from JFK.


It will be awesome if B6 will start flying to all of these cities.
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:50 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
catiii wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
Looks like it is all zeroed out after that

Poor B6. Great little airline with a management team that seems adrift...


Why is ending an underperforming route in a market where all the peers are also pulling down capacity indicative of a management team that’s adrift? Seems more indicative of a management team that it decisive in redeploying assets to make profits.



Ending a lot of markets as of late.

Not good.

Hope they dont expect light competition ahead in the TA market.

They are about to face competition like they never saw in their collective airline lives

Not for the faint of heart


:checkmark:

It takes more than free snacks at the snack bar and free WIFI to make certain markets work.
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:58 pm

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JetBlue should try Pacific Mexican cities.



I heard that because of the political winds that changed, travel of Mexican nationals to and from the U.S. are much less than originally envisioned. Things went opposite to the more open boarders they were banking on. I think this is the case for all the carriers that are now cutting back.
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:02 pm

jumbojet wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
catiii wrote:

Why is ending an underperforming route in a market where all the peers are also pulling down capacity indicative of a management team that’s adrift? Seems more indicative of a management team that it decisive in redeploying assets to make profits.



Ending a lot of markets as of late.

Not good.

Hope they dont expect light competition ahead in the TA market.

They are about to face competition like they never saw in their collective airline lives

Not for the faint of heart


:checkmark:

It takes more than free snacks at the snack bar and free WIFI to make certain markets work.




Yes we all know Delta would never end a market
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:04 pm

Oh here we go with the typical b6 bash team. They are closing a station that does not work. What is the big deal?
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:19 pm

This is honestly shocking. I wasn't terribly surprised to see AS or WN end all service to MEX, given their longstanding focus on serving American leisure travelers headed to Mexican beach resorts rather than VFR travelers. B6, on the other hand, seems to have a knack for pulling off challenging VFR markets - such as KIN, PAP, and POS. If anything, you'll probably find a lot more American tourists in Mexico City than Port-au-Prince or Port of Spain. Very sad to know that in a few months AA, DL and UA will be the only U.S. carriers serving MEX...
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:41 pm

Mexico seems to be in the news a lot lately, and not in a good way. Perceptions are shifting more and more to it being a unsafe narco state. Not surprised travel to and fro is drying up.
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:53 pm

SurfandSnow wrote:
This is honestly shocking. I wasn't terribly surprised to see AS or WN end all service to MEX, given their longstanding focus on serving American leisure travelers headed to Mexican beach resorts rather than VFR travelers. B6, on the other hand, seems to have a knack for pulling off challenging VFR markets - such as KIN, PAP, and POS. If anything, you'll probably find a lot more American tourists in Mexico City than Port-au-Prince or Port of Spain. Very sad to know that in a few months AA, DL and UA will be the only U.S. carriers serving MEX...


One big difference between B6 and WN is that WN offered 1-stop connecting service to MEX through HOU from more cities prior to pulling out MEX whereas B6's flights out of MEX were carrying mostly passengers traveling to and from East Coast destinations served by B6.
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:07 pm

SurfandSnow wrote:
This is honestly shocking. I wasn't terribly surprised to see AS or WN end all service to MEX, given their longstanding focus on serving American leisure travelers headed to Mexican beach resorts rather than VFR travelers. B6, on the other hand, seems to have a knack for pulling off challenging VFR markets - such as KIN, PAP, and POS. If anything, you'll probably find a lot more American tourists in Mexico City than Port-au-Prince or Port of Spain. Very sad to know that in a few months AA, DL and UA will be the only U.S. carriers serving MEX...


Please understand MEX is NOT a VFR market. It is the 8th wealthiest metro area in the world.

The traffic between the US and Mexico City is mostly middle/upper class CDMX residents going to the US for business or on holiday not emigrants coming back for a visit. It is a completely different traffic mix than POS or PAP or even other Mexican cities like GDL or MTY.

The US LCC's problem is their focus on internet sales instead of building relationships with the travel agencies that are the dominant sales channels for Mexican point-of-sale traffic.
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:08 pm

BOSMEX was a joke and started out desperation I can only assume, MCOMEX is trash yields and all Mexico origin, JFKMEX has too much competition, but they are the only airline on FLLMEX so one would think that could work given how absolutely massive the SoFla-Mexico City local market is. Goes to show how tough MEX is.
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:28 pm

usflyer msp wrote:
The US LCC's problem is their focus on internet sales instead of building relationships with the travel agencies that are the dominant sales channels for Mexican point-of-sale traffic.


At least B6 was in the GDS -- WN wasn't, which had to have hurt them.

I would add that the lack of even an interline agreement with any carriers at MEX didn't help.

I know they've got some issues, but you'd think the product offering of 4O would have been a good complement to B6 in MEX.

(Personally, this is a rough one to lose -- we were hoping to finally take advantage of B6 BOS-MEX in late January. Might still find our way onto one of the last remaining flights, and back via CUN.)
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:31 pm

SurfandSnow wrote:
This is honestly shocking. I wasn't terribly surprised to see AS or WN end all service to MEX, given their longstanding focus on serving American leisure travelers headed to Mexican beach resorts rather than VFR travelers. B6, on the other hand, seems to have a knack for pulling off challenging VFR markets - such as KIN, PAP, and POS. If anything, you'll probably find a lot more American tourists in Mexico City than Port-au-Prince or Port of Spain. Very sad to know that in a few months AA, DL and UA will be the only U.S. carriers serving MEX...


Why do you say Kingston, Port au Prince and Port of Spain are challenging markets?
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:47 pm

They had to ditch MEX. it was low performing and only 3 B6 crew members(the rest were contract company). They need the MEX slots for 2020 DY Interline flights. Look for DY to fly into B6 terminals in 2020 BOS/JFK/FLL/MCO. This is all part of the big Europe plan coming in 2021.
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:06 pm

dtremit wrote:
usflyer msp wrote:

I know they've got some issues, but you'd think the product offering of 4O would have been a good complement to B6 in MEX.

(Personally, this is a rough one to lose -- we were hoping to finally take advantage of B6 BOS-MEX in late January. Might still find our way onto one of the last remaining flights, and back via CUN.)


Interjet flies to JFK, MCO and MIA (FLL) from MEX with their own metal -- not alot of incentive for them to cooperate with such a major competitor. Now that B6 is leaving, I would not be surprised to see at least an interline agreement signed between the two carriers.
 
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:21 pm

Imho B6 ending an unprofitable route is good for B6, now rhey can redeploy the assets where they can make money. On the other hand, they seem to be getting squeezed in a lot of places.
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:25 pm

I thought it was a good route, apparently not.
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CobaltScar wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
JetBlue should try Pacific Mexican cities.



I heard that because of the political winds that changed, travel of Mexican nationals to and from the U.S. are much less than originally envisioned. Things went opposite to the more open boarders they were banking on. I think this is the case for all the carriers that are now cutting back.


BOS and JFK point-of-sale could work. I already mentioned PVR several times in another thread(s).
 
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They had to ditch MEX. it was low performing and only 3 B6 crew members(the rest were contract company). They need the MEX slots for 2020 DY Interline flights. Look for DY to fly into B6 terminals in 2020 BOS/JFK/FLL/MCO. This is all part of the big Europe plan coming in 2021.


In BOS DY relocating is not necessary due to C to E connector but DY's flight times do not really sync up with B6 flows coming back to the USA at Logan.

MAH4546 wrote:
BOSMEX was a joke and started out desperation I can only assume


Was it a jab at DL/AM? It seemed like it. It just is not big enough for daily service with no logical connecting opportunities on the MEX end (I noticed connections to LATAM on GDS) and the length of the flight made it hard to feed partners (notably Gulf carriers) timing wise.

I think DL will be doing this route at some point personally with A220 as the lead aircraft but with 738 during peak times.

Dieuwer wrote:
CobaltScar wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
JetBlue should try Pacific Mexican cities.



I heard that because of the political winds that changed, travel of Mexican nationals to and from the U.S. are much less than originally envisioned. Things went opposite to the more open boarders they were banking on. I think this is the case for all the carriers that are now cutting back.


BOS and JFK point-of-sale could work. I already mentioned PVR several times in another thread(s).


Though the traffic is there, you are only going to do a weekly from BOS. PVR does have EWR with UA.

The bigger hole for some Northeast Leisure traffic is probably BZE or SKB for B6 and its 400-500 miles shorter. Those would be a weekly from BOS and maybe 3-4 weekly from JFK. BZE is also served by UA. Caribbean tends to yield better than Pacific Mexico.

From BOS, ANU has potential as a seasonal weekly.
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:59 pm

jumbojet wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
catiii wrote:

Why is ending an underperforming route in a market where all the peers are also pulling down capacity indicative of a management team that’s adrift? Seems more indicative of a management team that it decisive in redeploying assets to make profits.



Ending a lot of markets as of late.

Not good.

Hope they dont expect light competition ahead in the TA market.

They are about to face competition like they never saw in their collective airline lives

Not for the faint of heart


:checkmark:

It takes more than free snacks at the snack bar and free WIFI to make certain markets work.


Funny, they get a RASM premium head to head against your favorite carrier in every market. They just don’t have Atlanta to subsidize their losses.
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:02 pm

SurfandSnow wrote:
This is honestly shocking. I wasn't terribly surprised to see AS or WN end all service to MEX, given their longstanding focus on serving American leisure travelers headed to Mexican beach resorts rather than VFR travelers. B6, on the other hand, seems to have a knack for pulling off challenging VFR markets - such as KIN, PAP, and POS. If anything, you'll probably find a lot more American tourists in Mexico City than Port-au-Prince or Port of Spain. Very sad to know that in a few months AA, DL and UA will be the only U.S. carriers serving MEX...

I don’t see what’s particularly tough about PAP or KIN. Both have very large US VFR populations, no homegrown carriers (BW is a Trinidadian airline, OJ no longer exists) and maintain service from multiple US carriers with varying business models (NK, AA, B6, DL, etc.). On the other end, they both have relatively small but very wealthy upper classes and which frequent the US heavily for both leisure and business. Their proximity to the US also makes both relatively easy to serve.

With regard to POS, B6 is a distant third out of the So. Fla market and trails BW on JFK-POS as well. So I guess they do make that one work as well, of sorts.
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:03 pm

jumbojet wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
catiii wrote:

Why is ending an underperforming route in a market where all the peers are also pulling down capacity indicative of a management team that’s adrift? Seems more indicative of a management team that it decisive in redeploying assets to make profits.



Ending a lot of markets as of late.

Not good.

Hope they dont expect light competition ahead in the TA market.

They are about to face competition like they never saw in their collective airline lives

Not for the faint of heart


:checkmark:

It takes more than free snacks at the snack bar and free WIFI to make certain markets work.


If that’s the case why is the rest of the industry’s trying to copy them?
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:04 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
catiii wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
Looks like it is all zeroed out after that

Poor B6. Great little airline with a management team that seems adrift...


Why is ending an underperforming route in a market where all the peers are also pulling down capacity indicative of a management team that’s adrift? Seems more indicative of a management team that it decisive in redeploying assets to make profits.



Ending a lot of markets as of late.

Not good.

Hope they dont expect light competition ahead in the TA market.

They are about to face competition like they never saw in their collective airline lives

Not for the faint of heart


“A lot of markets?” Define “a lot?”

You’d be the first person criticizing the management team for not ending underperforming markets.

Go figure.
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:04 pm

adamh8297 wrote:
Though the traffic is there, you are only going to do a weekly from BOS. PVR does have EWR with UA.

The bigger hole for some Northeast Leisure traffic is probably BZE or SKB for B6 and its 400-500 miles shorter. Those would be a weekly from BOS and maybe 3-4 weekly from JFK. BZE is also served by UA. Caribbean tends to yield better than Pacific Mexico.

From BOS, ANU has potential as a seasonal weekly.


I could see BOS-BZE. A plus point is that Belize is English-speaking. So no language barrier. The beaches, snorking/diving are world class. A bit more expensive than Mexico though. But the marketing in BOS seems lacking.
 
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Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:17 pm

Blueknows wrote:
They had to ditch MEX. it was low performing and only 3 B6 crew members(the rest were contract company). They need the MEX slots for 2020 DY Interline flights. Look for DY to fly into B6 terminals in 2020 BOS/JFK/FLL/MCO. This is all part of the big Europe plan coming in 2021.

LMAO that just doesnt work like that, the slots are awarded by the Government depending on what the carriers are offering and what is best for the traveling public (according to them).

Did you miss the whole AM-EK thing?
 
caribny
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:25 pm

Brickell305 wrote:
Don’t see what’s particularly tough about PAP or KIN. Both have very large US VFR populations, no homegrown carriers (BW is a Trinidadian airline, OJ no longer exists) and maintain service from multiple US carriers with varying business models (NK, AA, B6, DL, etc.). On the other end, they both have relatively small but very wealthy upper classes and which frequent the US heavily for both leisure and business. Their proximity to the US also makes both relatively easy to serve.

With regard to POS, B6 is a distant third out of the So. Fla market and trails BW on JFK-POS as well. So I guess they do make that one work as well, of sorts.


B6 is the dominant VFR carrier into KIN from the US so I too am confused why this is challenging. When JM was closed down most of their customers switched to B6, and not to BW, which was supposed to be the successor.

There are probably as many as 800k Jamaicans living in the USA and sizeable travel out of KIN to the USA. In fact Jamaicans jokingly consider SoFL to be a "suburb" of Kingston! This because there is a definite level of commuter travel, with people splitting their lives between the two locations.
 
doulasc
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Re: B6 Ending MEX 1/9?

Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:26 pm

This is very surprising to me that JetBlue is leaving MEX.I thought that market would be successful for them.what happened?

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