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maint123 wrote:Powerbanks and batteries are not allowed in check in luggage.
maint123 wrote:Powerbanks and batteries are not allowed in check in luggage.
32andBelow wrote:maint123 wrote:Powerbanks and batteries are not allowed in check in luggage.
Luggage is not allowed to be ran over by rampers
32andBelow wrote:maint123 wrote:Powerbanks and batteries are not allowed in check in luggage.
Luggage is not allowed to be ran over by rampers
32andBelow wrote:maint123 wrote:Powerbanks and batteries are not allowed in check in luggage.
Luggage is not allowed to be ran over by rampers
32andBelow wrote:maint123 wrote:Powerbanks and batteries are not allowed in check in luggage.
Luggage is not allowed to be ran over by rampers
Flaps wrote:32andBelow wrote:maint123 wrote:Powerbanks and batteries are not allowed in check in luggage.
Luggage is not allowed to be ran over by rampers
Except that it can and does happen and its "usually" not on purpose. If you have ever driven ramp equipment you will understand that they are not the most maneuverable or stable of vehicles, especially a tug towing a string of carts or dollies. In bag rooms bags do sometimes fall unexpectedly from overhead without the space or time to maneuver away. There are numerous reasons for lithium/ion batteries to banned from checked bags. People who fail to follow these regulations risk their own lives and much more importantly the lives of the innocent people travelling with them and working their flights.
OA940 wrote:Flaps wrote:32andBelow wrote:Luggage is not allowed to be ran over by rampers
Except that it can and does happen and its "usually" not on purpose. If you have ever driven ramp equipment you will understand that they are not the most maneuverable or stable of vehicles, especially a tug towing a string of carts or dollies. In bag rooms bags do sometimes fall unexpectedly from overhead without the space or time to maneuver away. There are numerous reasons for lithium/ion batteries to banned from checked bags. People who fail to follow these regulations risk their own lives and much more importantly the lives of the innocent people travelling with them and working their flights.
Except that they're allowed when inside electronics. It's not like anyone's carrying a bomb. Cell phone/laptop/whatever batteries don't really explode that often, at least compared to how many there are in existence. If they were a true immediate risk they wouldn't be allowed at all.
Flaps wrote:32andBelow wrote:maint123 wrote:Powerbanks and batteries are not allowed in check in luggage.
Luggage is not allowed to be ran over by rampers
Except that it can and does happen and its "usually" not on purpose.
seb76 wrote:OA940 wrote:Flaps wrote:
Except that it can and does happen and its "usually" not on purpose. If you have ever driven ramp equipment you will understand that they are not the most maneuverable or stable of vehicles, especially a tug towing a string of carts or dollies. In bag rooms bags do sometimes fall unexpectedly from overhead without the space or time to maneuver away. There are numerous reasons for lithium/ion batteries to banned from checked bags. People who fail to follow these regulations risk their own lives and much more importantly the lives of the innocent people travelling with them and working their flights.
Except that they're allowed when inside electronics. It's not like anyone's carrying a bomb. Cell phone/laptop/whatever batteries don't really explode that often, at least compared to how many there are in existence. If they were a true immediate risk they wouldn't be allowed at all.
No, they are not allowed inside electronics either. Your laptop, tablet, etc... are forced to travel with you in the cabin for this very reason. Li-Po batteries do not necessarily need to be ran over to burst into flames. They can fail at any time if poorly manufacturered or just in bad condition. There are many well documented cases when such things happened and from the external appearance, you cannot tell if they are still OK to use or not. Inside a device that can drain them, they are even more at risk than standalone. The reason why they should go into the cabin is that it gives humans the possibility to notice and control the fire. Putting it in the hold is criminal.
seb76 wrote:OA940 wrote:Flaps wrote:
Except that it can and does happen and its "usually" not on purpose. If you have ever driven ramp equipment you will understand that they are not the most maneuverable or stable of vehicles, especially a tug towing a string of carts or dollies. In bag rooms bags do sometimes fall unexpectedly from overhead without the space or time to maneuver away. There are numerous reasons for lithium/ion batteries to banned from checked bags. People who fail to follow these regulations risk their own lives and much more importantly the lives of the innocent people travelling with them and working their flights.
Except that they're allowed when inside electronics. It's not like anyone's carrying a bomb. Cell phone/laptop/whatever batteries don't really explode that often, at least compared to how many there are in existence. If they were a true immediate risk they wouldn't be allowed at all.
No, they are not allowed inside electronics either. Your laptop, tablet, etc... are forced to travel with you in the cabin for this very reason. Li-Po batteries do not necessarily need to be ran over to burst into flames. They can fail at any time if poorly manufacturered or just in bad condition. There are many well documented cases when such things happened and from the external appearance, you cannot tell if they are still OK to use or not. Inside a device that can drain them, they are even more at risk than standalone. The reason why they should go into the cabin is that it gives humans the possibility to notice and control the fire. Putting it in the hold is criminal.
seb76 wrote:OA940 wrote:Flaps wrote:
Except that it can and does happen and its "usually" not on purpose. If you have ever driven ramp equipment you will understand that they are not the most maneuverable or stable of vehicles, especially a tug towing a string of carts or dollies. In bag rooms bags do sometimes fall unexpectedly from overhead without the space or time to maneuver away. There are numerous reasons for lithium/ion batteries to banned from checked bags. People who fail to follow these regulations risk their own lives and much more importantly the lives of the innocent people travelling with them and working their flights.
Except that they're allowed when inside electronics. It's not like anyone's carrying a bomb. Cell phone/laptop/whatever batteries don't really explode that often, at least compared to how many there are in existence. If they were a true immediate risk they wouldn't be allowed at all.
No, they are not allowed inside electronics either. Your laptop, tablet, etc... are forced to travel with you in the cabin for this very reason. Li-Po batteries do not necessarily need to be ran over to burst into flames. They can fail at any time if poorly manufacturered or just in bad condition. There are many well documented cases when such things happened and from the external appearance, you cannot tell if they are still OK to use or not. Inside a device that can drain them, they are even more at risk than standalone. The reason why they should go into the cabin is that it gives humans the possibility to notice and control the fire. Putting it in the hold is criminal.
seb76 wrote:OA940 wrote:Flaps wrote:
Except that it can and does happen and its "usually" not on purpose. If you have ever driven ramp equipment you will understand that they are not the most maneuverable or stable of vehicles, especially a tug towing a string of carts or dollies. In bag rooms bags do sometimes fall unexpectedly from overhead without the space or time to maneuver away. There are numerous reasons for lithium/ion batteries to banned from checked bags. People who fail to follow these regulations risk their own lives and much more importantly the lives of the innocent people travelling with them and working their flights.
Except that they're allowed when inside electronics. It's not like anyone's carrying a bomb. Cell phone/laptop/whatever batteries don't really explode that often, at least compared to how many there are in existence. If they were a true immediate risk they wouldn't be allowed at all.
No, they are not allowed inside electronics either. Your laptop, tablet, etc... are forced to travel with you in the cabin for this very reason. Li-Po batteries do not necessarily need to be ran over to burst into flames. They can fail at any time if poorly manufacturered or just in bad condition. There are many well documented cases when such things happened and from the external appearance, you cannot tell if they are still OK to use or not. Inside a device that can drain them, they are even more at risk than standalone. The reason why they should go into the cabin is that it gives humans the possibility to notice and control the fire. Putting it in the hold is criminal.
32andBelow wrote:maint123 wrote:Powerbanks and batteries are not allowed in check in luggage.
Luggage is not allowed to be ran over by rampers
32andBelow wrote:maint123 wrote:Powerbanks and batteries are not allowed in check in luggage.
Luggage is not allowed to be ran over by rampers
smithbs wrote:We have two gripes here so far - lithium batteries in checked luggage, and bags being run over by rampers. I'll add a third - isn't "explosion" a bit dramatic? Is it the news trying to grab headlines?
To me an explosion involves a significant energy threshold, with high speed outbound gases and particles. I suspect this was a fast-burning fire, roughly resembling a burning piece of luggage on the pavement.
32andBelow wrote:Luggage is not allowed to be ran over by rampers
OccupiedLav wrote:32andBelow wrote:Luggage is not allowed to be ran over by rampers
The bag was most likely a carry on that was too heavy or didn't fit the specified dimensions, thus requiring destruction by the rampers. I think Spirit operates this way as well.
737MAX7 wrote:Customer Service actually gives us ramp rats the names of overly entitled passengers so we can in fact run them over. Most happen to have memberships on this site actually.