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mrbonfire wrote:Assuming it will be EWR?
Announced a year ahead to help with consultation and pax to reconsider travel plans.
Will that mean they'll down gauge to 789?
mrbonfire wrote:Assuming it will be EWR?
Announced a year ahead to help with consultation and pax to reconsider travel plans.
Will that mean they'll down gauge to 789?
mrbonfire wrote:Assuming it will be EWR?
Announced a year ahead to help with consultation and pax to reconsider travel plans.
Will that mean they'll down gauge to 789?
jbs2886 wrote:mrbonfire wrote:Assuming it will be EWR?
Announced a year ahead to help with consultation and pax to reconsider travel plans.
Will that mean they'll down gauge to 789?
Yes, EWR. The PR states: Air New Zealand will fly between Auckland and its alliance partner United Airlines' New York hub Newark Liberty International Airport three times weekly, year-round, using its latest configuration Boeing 787-9 aircraft.
What is downgauged? They currently don't fly to NYC.
mrbonfire wrote:jasoncrh wrote:The press release above clearly says it'll be Newark.
The 5th para isn't really clear. Any good press officer would put the key details in the stand first.
airbazar wrote:5th freedom or not I can't imagine NYC being a larger market than LHR, from AKL. Is it? So they are replacing a 5th freedom route with a suspiciously viable ULR one. Hummm...
airbazar wrote:5th freedom or not I can't imagine NYC being a larger market than LHR, from AKL. Is it? So they are replacing a 5th freedom route with a questionably viable ULR one. Hummm...
aemoreira1981 wrote:I didn’t think NZ could reach Newark nonstop on a B789. I would expect a premium heavy subfleet for AKL-EWR.
Air New Zealand will operate its 787-9 'Code 2' aircraft to New York. This aircraft has a 275-seat configuration with a higher proportion of Business Premier and Premium Economy seating
OmerMaz wrote:
What happened to AKL-HKG-LHR?
It ended a few years back- 2012 or 2013ish.
kaitak wrote:Yes, very sad to see a route of over 35 yrs going. NZ started flying to LGW with 742s in around '81/82, then with the -400 and then, moved to LHR when they got the slots. And of course, their DC10s were seen when they had a partnership with BA in the late '70s, using DC10s.
mrbonfire wrote:jbs2886 wrote:mrbonfire wrote:Assuming it will be EWR?
Announced a year ahead to help with consultation and pax to reconsider travel plans.
Will that mean they'll down gauge to 789?
Yes, EWR. The PR states: Air New Zealand will fly between Auckland and its alliance partner United Airlines' New York hub Newark Liberty International Airport three times weekly, year-round, using its latest configuration Boeing 787-9 aircraft.
What is downgauged? They currently don't fly to NYC.
LHR/LAX is usually a 77W. Might they down gauge to 789 if bookings fall?
Zkpilot wrote:Unless something major has changed (Brexit perhaps?) I think this is a mistake. Excited for NY (and EWR would be a solid bet) but don’t think it should be at the expense of LHR.
3 main reasons to retain LHR:
1) It is (or certainly has been) one of NZs most profitable routes.
2) Provides a certain level of diversity regarding destinations (not putting all the eggs in the US basket).
3) Brand recognition/presence - LHR does have a certain level of prestige to it, it gives NZ that presence in the UK/EU, it does have that B-list celebrity use, and even as a fly the flag exercise does give New Zealand in general a boost in the UK.
With this decision, I’m pretty certain we can farewell any chance of 77X/A350 (unless they’re secretly planning LHR direct). LAX no longer would need 2x 77W daily sized planes as the LHR through pax won’t be on it and neither will NY pax so 2x daily 78J will do the job. I’d also bet money (provided no recession) that another US/Canada destination will be on the cards as a result (SEA/YYZ/DEN).
axio wrote:Wow - LAX/LHR was often touted as the highest yielding route on the network.
Having done AKL-LHR via LAX a couple of times though I can safely say it was a horrible way to travel as transit at LAX is annoying (thanks to immigration queues) compared to going via SIN or HKG.
nine4nine wrote:killer price always.
Zkpilot wrote:3) Brand recognition/presence - LHR does have a certain level of prestige to it,
United787 wrote:So EWR will join the "six continents club"!
Without getting into a stupid discussion on the geology, geography and geopolitical meaning of continents, it is safe to say that the general A-Net consensus of this made up A-Net designation is that New Zealand can be counted as part of Australia...